A record 542,143 voters cast their ballots on the first day of early voting on Tuesday, compared with 314,496 on the first day in 2022. Four thousand of those who voted yesterday and on Tuesday across 19 seats were surveyed as part of an “exit poll” conducted by the News Corp papers, an exercise I am a little dubious about, particularly when reported at seat level from samples of barely more than 200 each. The degree of care needed to produce properly illuminating results does not seem to have been taken: the swing figures reported at seat level do not take account of redistributions, and at national level the results are aggregated and compared to the party totals from 2022, without regard to the peculiarities of the targeted electorates.
Let’s be optimistic though and say that broadly representative voting centres were chosen, and that to the extent that they were not, the problem cancels out when results are aggregated across multiple electorates (and also that the earliest early voters are representative of the whole, which is impossible to say) (UPDATE: Adrian Beaumont points out that US experience says voters earlier in the period tend to be older, which may explain some of the weak results for the Greens). In the following analysis, I have gone to the effort of basing swing calculations off redistribution-adjusted results from 2022 at pre-poll voting centres only:
• The three Greens-held Brisbane seats of Brisbane, Ryan and Griffith were all targeted, with average results of Greens 33.7%, up 2.4%; Labor 31.8%, up 5.2%; and LNP 32.8%, down 2.9%.
• Average results in the New South Wales seats of Werriwa, Gilmore, Paterson and Bennelong were Labor 43.1%, up 4.3%; Liberal 37.2%, down 2.5%; and Greens 4.8%, down 2.8%. I have excluded the part of North Sydney that was transferred to Bennelong from my baseline calculation here, due to the complication there of teal independent Kylea Tink.
• Average results in the Victorian seats of Corangamite, Chisholm, Bruce and McEwen were Labor 42.1%, up 3.4%; Coalition 40.1%, up 4.6%; and Greens 8.6%, down 3.5%.
• Boothby and Sturt averaged Labor 44.5%, up 13.3%; Liberal 44.3%, down 0.3%; and Greens 9.0%, down 4.5%.
• In the two seats with competitive teals, Goldstein and Bradfield, there was an average Liberal vote of 43.5%, up 0.6%, and an average teal vote of 32.5%, up 2.3%. In this case I did not include areas added to Goldstein in the redistribution for the baseline, as they did not have a teal candidate in 2022.
Other seats covered by the exercise were Leichhardt, McPherson, Lyons and Solomon.
There is another item of polling in the shape of a second Ipsos poll for the Daily Mail, which provides leadership ratings but not voting intention. Anthony Albanese is up three on approval since last week to 38% and steady on disapproval at 39%. The report says only that Peter Dutton has a net rating of minus 20, unchanged on last week when he recorded 27% approval and 47% disapproval. Albanese leads 46-32 as preferred prime minister, out from 44-30. The poll was conducted Friday to Sunday from a sample of 2000.
On AM this morning, Angus Taylor says Peter Dutton ‘misheard ‘ the question about EV subsidies.
Everyone breath a sigh of relief, Peter didn’t flip flop, he’s just a reactionary, all’s good and normal with the world.
The ABC news ticker is saying that Trump has accused Ukraine of prolonging the war by refusing to cede territory to Russia – as though that’s some character flaw. It’s difficult not to see the man as an agent of Putin.
Is Trump just stupid or a Russian Asset?
Chinese wolf warrior said overnight that USA wants to “rebalance trade “with China.
That was a complaint believe it or not via the UN by China.
Err ya entitled commies are running at last count $295 Billion yearly trade surplus with USA – not 250 I was underestimating-.
They think that’s the way trade works feel sorry for Dutton this baby is about to explode.
Doing a Buffett I am moving my investments to conservative.
frednk @ #52 Thursday, April 24th, 2025 – 8:27 am
Both.
Good Morning! Here’s Your Week 4 of the Election Campaign Daily News and Views Roundup.
Australia will spend $1.2 billion establishing a national stockpile of coveted minerals needed in products as diverse as electric batteries, computers and military equipment as it seeks to help break China’s stranglehold over global supplies. Prime Minister Anthony Albanese on Wednesday announced a critical minerals strategic reserve to purchase and hold minerals like lithium, rare earths, nickel, cobalt and graphite via special agreements with local producers.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/trump-wants-them-china-needs-them-so-albanese-has-a-1b-scheme-to-stockpile-them-20250423-p5ltsr.html
Labor has gone on the offensive against the Coalition in key marginal seats after gaining a boost in published opinion polls, but government MPs are warning that their core support remains at risk from a backlash over the cost of living.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/swing-against-dutton-redraws-battleground-map-as-albanese-targets-liberal-seats-20250423-p5ltqd.html
The Greens are hoping for another ‘greenslide’ election. What do the polls say?
https://theconversation.com/the-greens-are-hoping-for-another-greenslide-election-what-do-the-polls-say-254600
Why Trump-style attacks on workplaces haven’t worked in Australia. By Isabella Higgins
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/dutton-election-work-from-home-diversity-trump/105201256
The opposition leader says he ‘won’t be able to get to all’ of the seven locations earmarked for flagship nuclear policy, while Labor says he has not been within 50km of any during election campaign
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/24/exclusion-zones-is-peter-duttons-campaign-avoiding-proposed-nuclear-power-sites
Dutton reverses pledge on EV tax break two days after saying he would keep it.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-reverses-pledge-on-ev-tax-break-two-days-after-he-said-he-would-keep-it-20250423-p5lttb.html
The Coalition’s defence plans are a kneejerk, impossible dream when what we need is achievable policy. By Allan Behm
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/23/the-coalitions-defence-plans-are-a-kneejerk-impossible-dream-when-what-we-need-is-achievable-policy
Dutton refuses to specify what Coalition’s $21bn of pledged defence spending would be used on
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/23/dutton-refuses-to-specify-what-coalitions-21bn-of-pledged-defence-spending-would-be-used-on
Peter Dutton’s late defence promise is driven by both Xi Jinping and Donald Trump By David Speers
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/coalition-defence-policy-china-careful-language/105205206
Coalition leader says he will subject Palestinians from Gaza on visitor visas to more scrutiny, echoing claims – without evidence – they are a national security risk
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/23/peter-dutton-reaffirms-support-for-antisemitism-citizenship-test-question-and-re-vetting-gazan-visas
Energy, education and welfare are barely rating a mention in the campaign. Here’s what’s on offer other than sugar hits to the hip pocket
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/24/australia-cost-of-living-election-parties-key-policies-labor-coalition-greens
Coalition frontbencher Jason Wood was warned there were “serious integrity concerns” about a Liberal donor and migration agent, Jack Ta, whom he tried to appoint to a government advisory group, two years before he denied knowing any adverse information about the man.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/coalition-frontbencher-shocked-by-allegations-against-a-migration-agent-but-he-had-been-warned-20250417-p5lsia.html
Teen charged over alleged assault of MAGA hat-wearing man at polling booth in PM’s electorate
https://www.smh.com.au/national/elderly-man-wearing-maga-hat-allegedly-assaulted-at-polling-booth-in-pm-s-electorate-20250423-p5ltt0.html
Corflutes have been “violently” vandalised in the federal seat of Calare in NSW, with a metal pole stuck through an image of one candidate’s head. The female candidates targeted say they believe the vandalism may be about their gender.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-23/women-candidates-posters-vandalised-calare-federal-election/105206392
A docile candidates’ forum about public broadcasting at a library in Kooyong descended into chaos on Wednesday evening after far-right agitators gatecrashed the event, prompting one woman to throw a punch at one of the protesters.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/federal-election-2025-live-updates-labor-coalition-deny-hiding-energy-plans-pm-slams-missing-dutton-at-nuclear-site-20250423-p5lts3.html
North shore teal distances herself from allegedly antisemitic posts
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/north-shore-teal-distances-herself-from-antisemitic-posts-20250421-p5lt2x.html
AEC identifies person behind Wentworth pamphlets. The Australian Electoral Commission says it has identified the person who sent thousands of unauthorised campaign pamphlets threatening to “expose” the independent MP Allegra Spender
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2025/apr/24/australia-election-2025-live-labor-coalition-teal-anthony-albanese-peter-dutton-policy-cost-of-living-voting-spender-pamphletntwnfb
‘Sick of being ignored’: galvanised by Gaza, Australian Muslims aim to exert new political power at the election. Campaigns that have sprung up to energise Australia’s 650,000 voting-age Muslims say the ramifications will extend well beyond 3 May
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/24/sick-of-being-ignored-galvanised-by-gaza-australian-muslims-aim-to-exert-new-political-power-at-the-election
Zero chance for Dutton to achieve net migration target. By Abul Rizvi
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/zero-chance-for-dutton-to-achieve-net-migration-target,19657
As it gets late into this year’s federal election campaign, Dr Lee Duffield asks: Will the Opposition parties grab at an opportunity to cause some anger and bad feeling over the migration issue? Or have they been Trumped on that one?
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/racism-absent-from-coalition-election-campaign,19656
How preference deals could change who wins in some seats
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/how-preference-deals-could-change-who-wins-in-some-seats/105206966
Another earthquake has struck one of the seven sites where Opposition Leader Peter Dutton wants to build a nuclear power station – but the seismic event is unlikely to be powerful enough to shake the major parties into putting energy policy onto the election campaign’s centre stage.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/voldemort-policy-labor-coalition-deny-hiding-energy-plans-in-nuclear-election-20250423-p5ltlu.html
Mental health experts concerned about Coalition plan to scrap workers’ right to disconnect
Michaelia Cash reconfirmed on the campaign trail with Peter Dutton the opposition would repeal world-leading laws
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/24/mental-health-experts-concerned-about-coalition-plan-to-scrap-workers-right-to-disconnect
When ‘equal’ does not mean ‘the same’: Liberals still do not understand their women problem
https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/politics/australian-politics/federal-election-2025/2025/04/23/coalition-women-problem
A message to the major parties: Embrace reform or end up like the Romans. William Bennett
https://www.smh.com.au/money/planning-and-budgeting/a-message-to-the-major-parties-embrace-reform-or-end-up-like-the-romans-20250422-p5ltg2.html
Both major parties expected an increase in early voting. It was one of the reasons both formally launched their campaigns just a fortnight into the campaign, much earlier than in previous elections. But the sheer size of Tuesday’s vote has caught them by surprise.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australians-rush-to-cast-early-votes-in-record-numbers-20250423-p5ltpa.html
Modern elections are mostly a beauty contest. This election is performing its chief function, which is to decide who’ll serve as prime minister. Above all else, the election has given most voters what they need: an opportunity to measure up the leaders by getting a sense of their temperament, personality, worldview and ability to operate under pressure. It was always going to be like this. By Shaun Carney
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-s-angry-man-mistakes-leave-albanese-looking-the-better-devil-20250422-p5ltfu.html
Billboards vs content creators – the new frontier in election marketing.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/queensland/billboards-vs-content-creators-the-new-frontier-in-election-marketing-20250422-p5ltgf.html
Politics with Michelle Grattan: historian Frank Bongiorno on dramatic shifts in how elections are fought and won. Podcast
https://theconversation.com/politics-with-michelle-grattan-historian-frank-bongiorno-on-dramatic-shifts-in-how-elections-are-fought-and-won-255113
Labor spends more than Coalition on election TV ads but Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots leads YouTube outlay. Political ads on online video platform surge by 40% during first half of 2025 election campaign
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/24/labor-spends-more-than-coalition-on-election-tv-ads-but-palmers-trumpet-of-patriots-leads-youtube-outlay
Three-way contest for Brisbane between Labor, Liberals and the Greens will go down to the wire
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/brisbane-greens-labor-liberal-federal-election-2025-voting/105208290
Sixty per cent of the federal Coalition or their families invest in shares, while just under half of Labor MPs and their families do the same, buying into stocks ranging from blue-chip companies such as Woolworths to private businesses.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/this-mp-has-36-shareholdings-but-others-aren-t-far-behind-20250227-p5lfor.html
James Curran Trump’s shadow is all over this election. The president is bringing out the differences between political cultures and traditions in Australia and the US, especially in attitudes towards what government can and should do.
https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/04/trumps-shadow-is-all-over-this-election/
At what point does Australia say ‘enough’ to Trump?
https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/us-news/trump-news/2025/04/23/donald-trump-australia
Elon Musk’s DOGE backdown won’t put Tesla back on track. By Elizabeth Knight
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/elon-musk-s-doge-backdown-won-t-put-tesla-back-on-track-20250423-p5ltok.html
There is a solution to Donald Trump’s baby problem – he should resign. By Michelle Goldberg
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/there-is-a-solution-to-donald-trump-s-baby-problem-he-should-resign-20250423-p5ltnr.html
After EU fines, Big Tech wants Trump to swoop in
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/23/european-fines-big-tech-trump-00306670
US President Donald Trump says he will substantially lower his unprecedented 145 per cent tariffs on Chinese goods and “won’t play hardball” in recognition the current trade war between the world’s two largest economies cannot last.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-says-he-will-substantially-cut-china-tariffs-as-trade-war-bites-20250423-p5ltl8.html
Memory shapes China’s response to Trump’s tariffs. To asses China’s reaction to Donald Trump’s tariffs we have to go back around 165 years. Daryll Guppy
https://johnmenadue.com/post/2025/04/china-fightcan/
Donald Trump has accused Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky of prolonging the war with Russia by refusing to cede Crimea to Vladimir Putin, in the latest escalation of the US president’s frustration with Kyiv as he tries to force through a peace deal this week.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-slams-zelensky-for-refusing-to-cede-crimea-to-putin-20250424-p5ltuj.html
Zelenskyy under pressure at home over peace talks and mineral deal with US. Ukrainian president is desperately trying to talk Russia and the U.S. into a ceasefire deal, but will need to convince MPs to sign off on it as well.
https://www.politico.eu/article/volodymyr-zelenskyy-war-in-ukraine-peace-talks-mineral-deal-united-states-russia/
After stunning comeback, centre-left Liberals likely to win majority of seats at Canadian election
By Adrian Beaumont
https://theconversation.com/after-stunning-comeback-centre-left-liberals-likely-to-win-majority-of-seats-at-canadian-election-254926
EU to float ban on new Russian energy contracts. The idea will be one of several options Brussels will suggest in May to sever Russian energy links.
https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-to-float-ban-on-new-russian-energy-contracts/
Longtime US allies say they have ways to fight back against Trump, and they’ll use them
Plans are being drawn up and, as one EU diplomat said, “We’ll take decisions to protect ourselves.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/23/us-allies-trump-retaliation-plans-00303495
The US cavalry isn’t coming: How Europe moves its armies without American assistance.
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-military-support-nato-europe-armies-without-american-assistance-donald-trump/
Australian Navy’s newest boats made in China. New tug boats ordered for the Australian Navy were constructed in China. A $28 million contract for “marine craft” was awarded to the Dutch company Damen last year.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/australia-navy-boat-made-in-china/105205286
Defence strategies in Australia’s north in the spotlight after China’s military build-up, reported Russian aircraft interest in Indonesia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-24/how-is-australias-northern-coastline-being-defended/105201488
Cartoon Time!
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frednk
I’ll repeat.
Trump is mad, bad, evil and a traitor.
Labor’s star candidate Ali France shared social media posts depicting Peter Dutton as a Nazi and backed claims Israel is an “openly racist apartheid regime” in newly unearthed posts on X.: https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/labor-candidate-ali-frances-wild-antiisrael-tweets-calling-peter-dutton-a-monster/news-story/1e95d52f7f1249ae21220615458ff97a
This election is about an effective, ruthless Labor machine vs a rather shambolic Liberal campaign.
There has obviously been no proper policy development from the Liberals over the past 3 years, they haven’t looked ready for an election since well before Day 1 of this campaign.
This peace deal being offered is all for the benefit of Russia. No ifs and buts.
It’s that simple.
“frednksays:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 8:27 am
Is Trump just stupid or a Russian Asset?”
I don’t think that’s an either/or question.
Fancy the USA is carving up illegally invaded territories of Ukraine and offering it to Russia
Trump is a bona fide traitor.
https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/04/24/news-corp-early-voting-exit-poll-and-ipsos-leadership-polling-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-4508635
… generally I go progressive/ independent crossbenchers, then centrists, then conservative crossbenchers, then conservatives, before far right reactionaries
Though some of the he/ she/ they training courses at work are making me rethink this, identify pollyTICs/ …/ culture wars, yawn, every manager seems to be a they in the various scenarios, I must try this out on the directors, maybe once off probation, the imagery is right out of Hollywood casting with one Asian, one African, one Caucasian ….
Perhaps it progresses/ …/ advances Australia, fair, overall I’d still like to see Australia go more socially over liberally democratic[, even if the PM seems to think he’s done fighting Tories]
This election I picked governance to help me decide instead of health, inequality, climate, powershift
Trump of course is an asset of Putin, we’ve known that since 2016, after they’ve thrown Ukraine to the wolves, watch next for the great Trump and Putin meeting in Washington.
People are still surprised by Trump’s conduct
He has been showing us who he is for years.
Trump is a chaos agent and it isn’t by accident
The Trump decade has been exhausting.
I truly thought it would have been dealt with by now
Trump never does or say anything to upset Putin.
Never
Trump has maligned every country and its people.
But not Putin or Russia.
Why?
Addie Pray says:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 8:36 am
“frednksays:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 8:27 am
Is Trump just stupid or a Russian Asset?”
I don’t think that’s an either/or question.
If you accept he is a Russian asset, he has brought down the US financial system. That is not the result you would expect from a stupid man.
Holdenhillbilly @ #57 Thursday, April 24th, 2025 – 8:32 am
So?
Looks pretty sensible to me.
Victoria says:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 8:42 am
Trump never does or say anything to upset Putin.
Never
That would be evidence he is a Russian asset.
Entitlement that’s the word of the day.
Ukraine,Europe ,Australia etc expect USA to bankroll wars and bankroll world trade with a trillion dollar deficit plus a year.
USA has changed don’t the failed lefties and their Mates in the media get it?
Thought Vance when he went over to Europe and shat on the entitled would have been a wake up call.
Failed Labor government in Australia also entitled.Dutton good policy to pay more to help ourselves in defence.
Been a good week for libs.
How it’s going…
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/23/musk-bessent-trump-white-house-irs
US Cartoons (Part 1):
US Cartoons (Part 2):
Ali France was never going to win Dickson anyway, but today’s hit job on her from Sam Maiden is a free kick to the Dutton campaign and their advocates on Sky News.
Victoria @ #NaN Thursday, April 24th, 2025 – 7:41 am
Vic,
We have 7 days of rain of varying amounts predicted for us here. You want some? You can have it! The mozzies just won’t go away!
https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/04/24/news-corp-early-voting-exit-poll-and-ipsos-leadership-polling-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-4508662
Kompromat going back at least to 1987, and still [about a third] Americans picked him …
Victoriasays:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 8:31 am
frednk
I’ll repeat.
Trump is mad, bad, evil and a traitor.
_____________________
Victoria. After condoning the Andrews cover up you don’t have a leg to stand on.
Contradictions everywhere.
Ali France ran in 2019 and 2022 in Dickson, this didn’t ‘turn up’ in either of those elections so I’d say this time the LNP is concerned. I volunteered for her whilst I lived in Dickson, nice person, door knocks like a fiend in 30 degree plus temps, with one leg replaced by a metal one. Dickson is a hilly seat.
Why do the LNP still push the line that renewables are “unreliable”? I mean I know it’s because they’re fossils, but the electoral calculus seems increasingly daft. Millions of Australian have solar, and understand perfectly well that the reduced peak load is saving them from Blackouts in summer, and that batteries will alter the equation further. And it’s cheaper. Who’d want nuclear?
Honestly, a Matt Kean like figure running a pro-business pro-renewables line would put up fiercer competition than these dinosaurs. It’s now Gen Z and millennials folks, and they’re not as technically illiterate as older voters.
It cracks me up how much faith News Ltd has in their ‘exit poll’. One of my work colleagues went to vote on the first pre-poll day in Boothby. As she left an Advertiser journo approached her (and every other person who walked out of the polling place) to ask who they voted for. She told the journo it was none of her business. The journo asked her three times before finally giving up and trying someone else.
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sprocket_says:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 6:46 am
Make sure you read William’s extensive caveats above about this ‘exit poll’, but here is the aggregation table..
The much touted surge in non-majors may have been wishcasting on these numbers
”
So, that is ‘exit poll’ of 2 days of pre-poll.
Am I correct in saying that the conventional wisdom says that LNP does way better than ALP on PV?
We wouldnt be shocked here if the Coalition picked up a net ~5 seats across NSW, Vic and WA from the ALP?
Wouldnt be shocked if Coalition v Teal ended up at +1 or so to Coalition (win one of the Vic seats back and hold firm in Bradfield – i give hairdresser shocker impact some legs)
I really have no idea what the ALP v Green net movement could be at either extreme
If ALP cant win back Fowler, then that wouldnt be great at all would it?
I think everyone is taking continued ALP govt to the bank now, but i can see a 72-63-15 sort of outcome though that would now be considered a disappointment for the ALP given the campaign
Having said that, i reckon most here would have taken that if offered a few months ago?
If it turned out that way, i presume Dutton would get to keep his job?
On the flipside, a combo of ALP hanging on to marginals (or winning back a couple plus Fowler) + Coalition going nowhere in teal seats means something like a 77-58-15… interestingly there, am not sure how Dutton could hang on credibly?
Small range window, really – but potentially large impact
Victoria says:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 8:40 am
People are still surprised by Trump’s conduct
He has been showing us who he is for years.
Trump is a chaos agent and it isn’t by accident
____________________
#Liked by @zigfried @starker
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pied pipersays:
Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 7:17 am
Meanwhile in the United Nations the USA and China were at war overnight about tariffs.
No sign of tariffs changing.All good.
”
I agree PP. All good.
Don’t believe anything Trump. He is making so called decisions on Tariffs on whim and changing his decision every day.
IMO, I think he is doing this to manipulate Stock markets to advantage some people.
Trump admires Putin because he’s powerful and dictate’y . Trump want’s to be like him.
Putin know’s Trumps an idiot, and just flatters him when they meet ,or talk. Putin is playing chess, and trump is playing tiddlywinks.
It’s just pathetic.
Morning all. Thanks Cat and HH for the news roundups. So in yesterday’s effort we had another backflip from Dutton, combined with a “major” defence announcement with no details on what it is, how it is paid for, where it will be built or when.
What is the point of such a promise? Who benefits from it? Who pays for it?
Thanks William for the lead-in and I appreciate the limitations on the seat by seat exit polls. Nevertheless I see no sign of the government changing on this evidence.
TaylorMade
I have no clue what you are on about.
You are one weird cat
Pied Piper
Why don’t you move to your ideological home instead of attempting to cope with the disappointment of existing on the fringe in Australia?
Cat, Ven
I agree that the 2% of Greens claiming no belief in climate change can be easily explained by the former communists in their party. In fact I think this percentage is higher than 2% among Green politicians and officials. Lee Rhiannon and Lidia Thorpe would both be examples IMO.
C@t
I’ll gladly take some of your rain!
Victoria @ #91 Thursday, April 24th, 2025 – 9:23 am
As long as you take the mosquitoes too! 😀
Socrates @ #90 Thursday, April 24th, 2025 – 9:13 am
Not meaning to be disrestpectful to her, but do you think Lidia Thorpe would be inclined to believe the Rainbow Serpent controls the Climate? Just spitballin’.
C@t
I’ll pass on the mosquitoes
On The Greens chances in Richmond:
The NSW seat of Richmond is a marginal Labor electorate that was once held by the Nationals. The Greens are calculating the seat is winnable based on their strong primary vote in 2022 and candidate continuity.
Richmond boasts one of the highest levels of rental stress in the nation, making it a perfect setting for Greens campaigning on housing affordability issues. Polling shows the Greens vote is up by 3% in NSW. If it’s accurate, and translates to Richmond, then the seat is potentially winnable.
https://theconversation.com/the-greens-are-hoping-for-another-greenslide-election-what-do-the-polls-say-254600
I’ve just looked at the news report on the cyclist settlement that TaylorMade must be alluding to.
I don’t see what the big conspiracy is.
Obviously the cyclist didn’t think 80000 settlement was enough and he sued his lawyers
https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/courts-law/slater-and-gordon-reach-settlement-with-ryan-meuleman-over-2013-crash-with-dan-andrews-vehicle/news-story/a820a04a85fd135753a392851743edaa?amp
I wonder if they will repeat the exit poll next week. If they use the same methodology it may have some use, otherwise…
Down my end of the swamp there is a distinct pattern to pre-poll, older conservative voters come out in the first few days, then they are joined by ALP voters, with Greens and the ‘damn, I forgot I’m away on the weekend’ voters joining in the last few days.
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Thursday, April 24, 2025 at 7:19 am
Disturbing … on so many levels …
https://michaelwest.com.au/labor-and-liberal-powerbrokers-join-to-attack-teals-and-greens/
Teals and Greens are under political attack from a new pro-fossil fuel, pro-Israel astroturfing group, adding to the onslaught by far-right lobbyists Advance Australia. Wendy Bacon and Yaakov Aharon with the story.
On February 12 this year, former prime minister Scott Morrison’s principal private secretary Yaron Finkelstein, and former Labor NSW Treasurer Eric Roozendaal, met in the plush 50 Bridge St offices in the heart of Sydney’s CBD. The powerbrokers were there to discuss election strategies of for astroturfing campaign group Better Australia 2025 Inc.
Strange bedfellows? Or just peas in a pod?
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Peas in a pod. Eric Roozendaal was the worst NSW Labor treasurer and MLC
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Regarding Lidia Thorpe, whatever is motivating her it isn’t science!
I think we both take Ven’s point – there are radical Greens who appear to be motivated by agendas unrelated to climate change or environmental science generally. My addition to that is that they are not only communists. I would regard Thorpe as an anarchist.