Federal polls: Morgan, Freshwater teal seats poll (open thread)

A better-than-usual result for Labor in the weekly national poll, and a finding that the teal independents have their work cut out for them.

The weekly Roy Morgan poll is the second strong result for Labor out of the last three, crediting them with a 51.5-48.5 lead after a 50.5-49.5 result in favour of the Coalition last time. Labor was up one-and-a-half on the primary vote to 30%, with the Coalition down three to 37%, the Greens steady on 13.5% and One Nation up one to 5%. The two-party measure that goes off 2022 preference flows rather than respondent allocation has Labor leading 52-48, after a 50-50 result last time. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1719.

A Freshwater Strategy poll conducted for the News Corp papers points to a combined 5% swing against the teal independent members in Wentworth, Warringah, Mackellar, Goldstein, Kooyong and Curtin, which if uniform would return all but Warringah and Wentworth to the Liberal Party. No further detail on voting intention was provided beyond the fact that the incumbents’ primary votes had “largely held up”, but the Liberals had gained potentially decisive support at the expense of Labor and the Greens. Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton were tied 39-all on preferred prime minister, and 42% said they would support their MP backing a Labor minority government against 47% who said they wouldn’t. The poll was conducted last Wednesday to Friday from a sample of 830.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. ‘sealion says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 4:54 pm

    Boerwar says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 4:47 pm

    He has done well. He has grabbed large swathes of Ukraine. He has already got the Crimea in the bag. His troops have virtually surrounded most of the surviving Ukraine troops which invaded Russia a couple of months ago. And Trump is giving him everything he wants.

    I have a different take on Putin. He managed to make Russia one of the most sanctioned countries in the world, united Ukraine, united Europe (except Hungary and Slovakia), managed to get 1 million qualified people to leave the country, lost plus minus USD 300 billion, proved that the Russian conventional military is a paper tiger, managed to get Finland and Sweden in NATO (or whatever it is going to be ex-USA), proved to all and sundry that the USA is not going to honour any commitments (except what will suit them) and also made sure that their natural market for energy (Europe) hates them. Well done, I say.’
    ===============
    Sure there are costs. But he won the war.

  2. As the wholesale electricity price is falling as more renewables become available I am not sure what this is about.

    FUBAR says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 4:01 pm
    ..
    Voters aren’t stupid. Bowen’s energy policy has failed, abysmally.

    Right wing posters seem to be becoming more and more unhinged.

    https://www.aer.gov.au/industry/wholesale/charts
    Electricity Q3 2024

    Average quarterly prices decreased in all regions except South Australia and Queensland. Prices ranged from $114/MWh in Queensland to $201/MWh in South Australia. Higher demand in July and early August put upward pressure on prices. Milder weather from late August onwards brought lower demand and more moderate prices.
    Q3 had a significant number (54) of high price periods, with South Australia accounting for half these (27). There were common drivers across most of the high price periods including network limitations, high demand and very low-wind output.
    There was a record number of 30-minute negative prices (1,314) in the NEM for a quarter 3 which was driven by high overall wind output in the quarter. Most of these occurred in South Australia and Victoria.
    Frequency Controlled Ancillary Services (FCAS) costs increased this quarter. Ten participants entered the FCAS market, with the majority offering all types of services. Four existing participants registered their units for additional services which were mostly 1 second. Six existing participants deregistered their units across a number of service types. The average quarterly price of raise 1 second fell from the preceding quarter, while lower 1 second remained the same. The average price of raise regulation service was the highest of all the services at $6/MW.
    Base future prices decreased in New South Wales and South Australia for 2025. Queensland and Victoria futures have been mixed with some quarters higher and some lower for 2025.

  3. davidwhsays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:22 pm
    Only 56%
    =================================================

    Lot of polling sentiment is rear window stuff. I expect it is still going down.

  4. davidwh:

    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:22 pm

    [‘Only 56%’]

    Yeah, but at this rate it could be in the 30s by the mid-terms. Good to hear you survived Alf. We had our power resumed this afternoon.

  5. I just saw a Tesla in Surry Hills with a dirty back window and someone had written “F**K YOU ELON!” through the dust.

    I guess the question is whether the vehicle owner wrote that or some passerby.

  6. davidwh says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:22 pm

    I thought it would have been much worse but it’s in line with his first term.

    The fact that 44% think he is doing a good job indicates how terrible the Democrats are.

  7. Fubar @4.09
    Of course, both your points are not dictum.
    Some voters, like some academics (say) are in fact stupid. Voters do not have a mortgage over wisdom.
    Your second point is just an opinion – no better or worse than anyone else’s here.
    You did not debate my points but that’s okay….Money in the bank thanks to State and Federal Labor governments….regardless of you point of view – from my point of view.
    Interested in your take on the war in Ukraine….The Plains of Russia, Ukraine and Poland great country for tanks in WW2.
    Maybe time for the Panzers to move East again?

  8. “Energy facts: Victoria continues to deliver the cheapest electricity across Australia
    A spotlight on how Victoria’s renewable energy generation lowers electricity prices.

    The Australian Energy Market Operator’s (AEMO) Quarterly Energy Dynamics report, released on 30 January 2025, has confirmed that Victoria continues to have the lowest wholesale electricity prices across Australia.

    Across Q4 2024, Victoria’s prices dropped to $45 per megawatt hour, almost half the average cost of $88/MWh across Australia, and were the lowest of any National Electricity Market (NEM) region.

    The report found that compared with Q3, 2024, prices in Victoria, South Australia and Tasmania – all states with high renewable energy generation – had decreased significantly, while those in the NEM’s northern regions increased.

    NSW and Queensland’s wholesale prices rose to $143 and $127/MWh, respectively, largely due to their dependence on higher-priced and increasingly unreliable coal generation.”

    https://www.energy.vic.gov.au/about-energy/news/news-stories/energy-facts-renewables-and-electricity-prices

  9. A case study into a small business producing and canning craft beer – how Trump’s 25% tariffs on aluminium affect their input costs and hence their financial viability when selling their product in competition with the brewing giants.

    Multiply their financial challenges by the number of small businesses in the US facing higher input costs from Trump’s tariffs. The damage to the small business sector and the entire US economy will be immense. So much for the party of free enterprise.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/small-craft-beer-brewers-tariffs-aluminum-rcna196095

  10. Tricot says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:30 pm

    Obama failed Ukraine in 2014 by not immediately enforcing a no fly zone and then a no armour zone. Europe same.

    Biden failed in 2022 as well. Europe same.

    Trump is failing Ukraine again.

    Europe is too militarily weak and too politically weak willed to support Ukraine to victory.

    So much Ukrainian blood unnecessarily spilled. Decisive action in either 2014 or 2022 by the US would have defeated Russia in Ukraine.

    Ukraine now is in a position where it has to either accept a peace plan forced upon it or continue to fight until its military collapses and the whole of Ukraine is lost.

  11. So much for the next opposition leader!

    Angus Taylor’s claim to have unveiled 34 economic polices in this term of parliament extends to taxpayer-funded mental health sessions, regulating vaping, increasing student visa fees, investing in ovarian cancer research and reducing the refugee intake. The list released by the office of the opposition Treasury spokesman has been panned by economists as evidence there has been a lack of credible policies unveiled by the Coalition.
    With The Australian revealing growing discontent within Coalition ranks about its lacklustre economic agenda, Mr Taylor’s office has distributed a list of the opposition’s economic policies while declaring there would be “more to come”. Included in the list is Peter Dutton’s vow to restore the Covid-era policy of 20 Medicare-funded mental health sessions per year, as well as the Coalition’s vow to reform regulations on vaping. It also includes a policy to spend $9m reviewing women-specific health items on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and investing in the Ovarian Cancer Australia charity.
    Other policies on the list of economic policies are: incentives for training GPs; allowing first-home buyers and separated women to access superannuation for housing; restoring the cashless debit card trial; establishing a Housing Infrastructure Program to build homes; speeding up gas approvals; repealing the nuclear energy moratorium, and; capping the number of foreign students at metropolitan universities. The list also includes the Coalition’s vow to implement divestiture powers targeting the supermarket sector but mentions nothing about Mr Dutton flagging the same approach for insurers.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/angus-taylors-list-of-34-economic-policies-mental-health-sessions-vaping-regulation/news-story/a168269f40fd0e354788a25e83c15cb3?amp

  12. Flight MH17 wouldn’t have been shot down if Obama had acted to push Russia back out of Ukraine. Lots of Australians would have been saved.

    Enjoy your Peace Prize, Barack.

  13. Entropysays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:32 pm.
    _____________________
    Resorting to vic.gov.au to back up your arguments now.
    The 300 spinners in the Dept of Premier and Cabinet will love that.
    Money for old rope with you.

  14. Geoffrey Epsteinsays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:48 pm
    Obama failed Ukraine in 2014 by overthrowing their elected government
    =======================================================

    What nonsense . The Revolution of Dignity overthrew that corrupt, Putin-backed regime. Your hatred of democracy colours everything you write. Then again what can one expect from a Z-fascist.

    Putin is an abomination and those that support him are neo-fascist abominations too.

  15. The Guardian tried to explain a “dog act” but failed abysmally.
    Why is it called a “dog act” when it’s a betrayal? Dogs are the most lovely, loyal creatures on the planet. Especially golden retrievers.

  16. Taylormadesays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:58 pm
    Entropysays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:32 pm.
    _____________________
    Resorting to vic.gov.au to back up your arguments now.
    The 300 spinners in the Dept of Premier and Cabinet will love that.
    Money for old rope with you.
    ======================================================

    Just resorting to the facts, the antithesis of your LNP spin. Though if you hadn’t noticed, everything stated there was from an AEMO press release anyway. So, which of these facts I presented are you actually disputing, or are you just all front?

  17. FUBARsays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 5:56 pm
    Flight MH17 wouldn’t have been shot down if Obama had acted to push Russia back out of Ukraine. Lots of Australians would have been saved.

    Enjoy your Peace Prize, Barack.
    ===================================================

    Is there any evidence at all that the Revolution of Dignity required Obama’s help to succeed, or are you just as full of BS as your mate GE?

  18. I find the Freshwater polls of teal held seats a bit hard to credit. It is also counter to all other polling undertaken in Teal seats over the last 18 months

    The ALP and GRN votes in these Teal seats were already very low – those voting for them aren’t marginal swing voters who are moving over to the Liberals.

    It also runs counter to the nature of the swing in WA election.

  19. MARKET ALERT

    Has Nuckeer Pete bought any Shares today?

    And polling “for the Murdoch media”

    Showing the Teals in trouble

    Against who?

    And Foopoo is a Financial Adviser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I wonder what the other Right Wing nut jobs on here do for a living?

    Practising improving from being able to count to 3 to counting to 99?

  20. Fubar….
    A bit weak blaming the shoot down of the Malaysian plane on Obama. That is a very long bow even for you. Does the same apply to the Korean jet those many years ago?
    So, Ukraine swallowed up by Russia, Baltic states swallowed up by Russia, Poland swallowed up by Russia……Russians back in their old “Soviet Territory” and Putin thinks he will die honoured like Catherine the Great or Ivan the Terrible.
    Meanwhile, US become so totally self-absorbed but somehow can find a bottomless purse to support Israel? The latter being your totally “I love the US” stand it take it?
    In the UK, Trump, would be in the Tower of London back in the day.
    I think the word ‘traitor’ to civilized values is a fair description of this degenerate.

  21. Putin is known to have a number of body doubles, some with extensive plastic surgery.

    This ‘Putin’ visiting the Kursk frontline today is not when of the better clones…

  22. sprocket_says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:24 pm
    Putin is known to have a number of body doubles, some with extensive plastic surgery.

    This ‘Putin’ visiting the Kursk frontline today is not when of the better clones…
    =========================================================

    Obviously has bad teeth. So upper lip well stretched to cover that fact at all times.

  23. Entropysays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:27 pm
    sprocket_says:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:24 pm
    Putin is known to have a number of body doubles, some with extensive plastic surgery.

    This ‘Putin’ visiting the Kursk frontline today is not when of the better clones…
    =========================================================

    Obviously has bad teeth. So upper lip well stretched to cover that fact at all times
    ___________________________
    What a cheapskate not forking out for dental for body doubles.

    If I became a dictator I would definitely pay for George Clooney to get good chompers.

  24. Good question on twitter

    ———-
    Did Putin sign the cease fire agreement yet?
    Vava@
    Because Trump said if he didn’t sign it right away he was going to really teach him a lesson.

    Any updates from the Kremlin?

  25. I saw a couple charging their Tesla at the shops this morning. My first feeling was disdain but then I thought well that looks like a fairly high mileage car probably bought a fair while ago with the best of intentions for the planet and my disdain turned to pity as I imagined they’re probably thoroughly embarrassed by the politics now embodied in their car.

  26. High Streetsays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:20 pm
    I find the Freshwater polls of teal held seats a bit hard to credit. It is also counter to all other polling undertaken in Teal seats over the last 18 months

    The ALP and GRN votes in these Teal seats were already very low – those voting for them aren’t marginal swing voters who are moving over to the Liberals.
    ____________________________
    I think it’s possible that some who voted Teal last time have drifted back, while some who voted Labor and Green have moved across to their Teal member.

  27. High Streetsays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:20 pm
    I find the Freshwater polls of teal held seats a bit hard to credit. It is also counter to all other polling undertaken in Teal seats over the last 18 months

    The ALP and GRN votes in these Teal seats were already very low – those voting for them aren’t marginal swing voters who are moving over to the Liberals.

    It also runs counter to the nature of the swing in WA election
    ————-
    The teals picked up about 10% from liberal voters some of whom had already swung to the greens and labor but the picture across teal seats looks mixed because Spender might get a swing but Steggall might suffer a swing because there’s no Deves.

  28. Right wing posters seem to be becoming more and more unhinged.
    ____________
    Is that not a natural state?

    🙂 The mask is slipping.

  29. In Europe there will be a new peace and equilibrium. When Le Pen, Farage, Vox in Spain, etc are in charge in a few years, there will no longer be any pandering to Ukraine. Western Europe and Russia will have united ideologies. And they will be in co-operation with Trump/Vance, Musk, Netanyahu and Dutton.

    The only dissenting voices will be what little remains of the LEFT

  30. I will be tactically voting for Nicolette Boele in Bradfield to end the “Liberals” stranglehold on the seat. Labor can’t win here, especially given the state of the polls. The “Liberals” have held the seat since it was formed in 1949. However, the Teal candidate has a good chance of breaking that 76 year run..

    Labor second. Whoever the “Liberals” put up last, behind No Notion, Uninformed Medical Opinions (if they’re still running) and the Gong of the Galahs.

    In the Senate, 1 Labor.

  31. BKsays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:47 pm
    Right wing posters seem to be becoming more and more unhinged.
    ____________
    Is that not a natural state?
    ================================================

    They don’t know what their natural state is, as their ability to self-evaluate is by any measure zero. Read any Scromoll post, and you don’t come away thinking this is a person capable of self-awareness or any form of awareness, for that matter.

  32. What nonsense . The Revolution of Dignity overthrew that corrupt, Putin-backed regime. Your hatred of democracy colours everything you write.

    You’re talking about a organised mob overthrowing an elected government, while obviously knowing absolutely nothing about the government that replaced it.

    Overthrowing a corrupt regime is exactly what the mob on Jan 6 2021 thought they were doing also.

  33. Overthrowing a corrupt regime is exactly what the mob on Jan 6 2021 thought they were doing also.

    Except they were in favour of the corrupt regime and wanted it to continue.

  34. ScromoII ” In Europe there will be a new peace and equilibrium. When Le Pen, Farage, Vox in Spain, etc are in charge in a few years, there will no longer be any pandering to Ukraine. Western Europe and Russia will have united ideologies. And they will be in co-operation with Trump/Vance, Musk, Netanyahu and Dutton.”

    The only dissenting voices will be what little remains of the LEFT”

    What, gangster states will live in harmony, respecting each other? Honour among thieves?

    I don’t think so.

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