Federal polls: Morgan, Freshwater teal seats poll (open thread)

A better-than-usual result for Labor in the weekly national poll, and a finding that the teal independents have their work cut out for them.

The weekly Roy Morgan poll is the second strong result for Labor out of the last three, crediting them with a 51.5-48.5 lead after a 50.5-49.5 result in favour of the Coalition last time. Labor was up one-and-a-half on the primary vote to 30%, with the Coalition down three to 37%, the Greens steady on 13.5% and One Nation up one to 5%. The two-party measure that goes off 2022 preference flows rather than respondent allocation has Labor leading 52-48, after a 50-50 result last time. The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1719.

A Freshwater Strategy poll conducted for the News Corp papers points to a combined 5% swing against the teal independent members in Wentworth, Warringah, Mackellar, Goldstein, Kooyong and Curtin, which if uniform would return all but Warringah and Wentworth to the Liberal Party. No further detail on voting intention was provided beyond the fact that the incumbents’ primary votes had “largely held up”, but the Liberals had gained potentially decisive support at the expense of Labor and the Greens. Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton were tied 39-all on preferred prime minister, and 42% said they would support their MP backing a Labor minority government against 47% who said they wouldn’t. The poll was conducted last Wednesday to Friday from a sample of 830.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. leftieBrawler,
    Fyi, I have been way more than a booth captain. Thanks for asking. I doubt you, with all your braggadocio even, have had a policy you created pass federal parliament and become the law of the land?
    Happy to be disabused by you if you have.

    Also, my reference to Bill Shorten was not meant to cast aspersions on his potential to be a great Prime Minister, which I also believe would have been the case, but for him to have counted his election chickens before they were hatched.

  2. Freshwater seat poll for the lib/nats propaganda media units the bin
    No political or actual voting evidence the non lib/nats voters are going to the liberal party

  3. Morning all. Like others I don’t find the lack of detail in the Freshwater poll reporting convincing. That is on top of the usual caveats on individual seat polls with very small sample sizes.

    Yet another former RAN Admiral has come out warning of the need for an AUKUS plan B. Chris Barrie is a respected figure who was turfed by Howard after the Tampa crisis. He is not anti-Labor.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/we-need-a-plan-b-admiral-s-call-for-aukus-rethink-over-unreliable-trump-20250312-p5lizw.html

  4. Why on earth did the ABC bobble head on ABC Breakfast feel need to say – after Sir Charles Marles blather about OHFUCKUS being a multigenerational deal that he expects to last for multi-generations “well that’s good news”, when it is neither ‘news’ (more akin to a religious prayer) let alone ‘good’ (which is a contestable proposition at best and again, not ‘news’).

  5. Dave, cheap tshirts from Bangladesh, no I’m more into a return to cottage industry where we all churn our own butter and provide a spare horse shoe to our neighbours 😉

  6. World Politics & News Patrol:

    The U.S. has covertly destabilized nations. With Canada, it’s being done in public: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-annexation-destabilizing-canada-1.7479890

    Ukraine won’t recognize occupied territories as Russian as part of any peace deal, Zelensky says: https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-wont-recognize/

    Cautious Russia weighs Ukraine ceasefire plan as US tries to seal a deal: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-lawmaker-says-any-ukraine-deal-will-be-moscows-terms-not-washingtons-2025-03-12/

    EU lawmakers accuse US of ‘blackmailing’ Zelenskyy into ceasefire: https://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy-war-in-ukraine-ceasefire-russia/

    Canada hits U.S. with dollar-for-dollar retaliation for Trump’s steel and aluminum tariffs: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/canada-to-announce-298-billion-in-retaliatory-tariffs-on-us-official-tells-reuters/

    Russian State Media Targets New Canadian Liberal Party Leader Mark Carney: https://disinfowatch.org/disinfo/russian-state-media-targets-new-canadian-liberal-party-leader-mark-carney/

    EU wields ‘sledgehammer’ against Trump tariffs: https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-tariffs-donald-trump-diplomat-eu-war-defending-nation-bloc/

    EU retaliates against Trump’s trade moves and slaps tariffs on produce from Republican states: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-europe-trade-retaliaton-1.7481215

    Pakistan operation to free hostages after train hijacking ends with dozens killed: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/12/up-to-200-still-held-hostage-amid-train-hijack-standoff-in-pakistan

    Captain of cargo ship in North Sea crash is Russian: https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/544626/captain-of-cargo-ship-in-north-sea-crash-is-russian

    Trump whines about who signed deal to allow Canada to supply energy to the US – it was him: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-canada-tariffs-trade-deal-b2713806.html

    RFK Jr.: It Would Be Better if ‘Everybody Got Measles’: https://www.thedailybeast.com/rfk-jr-it-would-be-better-if-everybody-got-measles/

    56 percent disapprove of Trump handling of economy: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5190289-donald-trump-handle-economy-cnn-survey/

    Voters No Longer Think Country in Right Direction Under Trump: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-poll-direction-country-2043644

  7. C@tmommasays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 6:08 am
    Good Morning everyone!
    _____________________
    What’s so good about it.
    Am injured again. Drilling holes in a steel bracket. Drill bit snapped and bracket has spun around and taken a chunk out of my shin.
    Would hurt if you breathed on it.
    A shocking night’s sleep.

  8. As Marx (Karl rather than Groucho) said “History does not repeat but it often rhymes”.

    So, from a Deutsche Welle article on 26/05/2018: “Hitler and his Volkswagen’
    Two men, one huge project: Adolf Hitler and Ferdinand Porsche are the people behind the Volkswagen Beetle. Porsche was the genius engineer, Hitler the sly politician. “These two were made for each other,” said Wolfram Pyta, a history professor at the University of Stuttgart.
    https://www.dw.com/en/hitler-and-his-volkswagen-tracing-the-80-year-history-of-the-beetle/a-43942998

    And

  9. Good Morning! Here’s Your Daily News and Views Roundup.

    Newspapers cannot justify running Clive Palmer’s Trumpet of Patriots ads as freedom of speech
    https://theconversation.com/newspapers-cannot-justify-running-clive-palmers-trumpet-of-patriots-ads-as-freedom-of-speech-252024

    Peter Dutton took publicly funded flights to Sydney on days of NRL grand finals, records show
    Guardian analysis reveals opposition leader also claimed for flights on days of a rugby tournament and, like many Labor MPs, a Matildas World Cup game.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/12/peter-dutton-expense-records-public-funding-nrl-grand-final-ntwnfb

    Coal lobby group urged members to attend fundraiser with Nationals leader David Littleproud
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/13/coal-lobby-group-fundraiser-nationals-david-littleproud-ntwnfb

    Climate 200 denies any link to publisher accused of ‘disinformation’ and promoting teals
    Simon Holmes à Court says he has met founder of Gazette News but insists his organisation has ‘no connection’ to the digital newspapers
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/12/climate-200-denies-any-link-to-publisher-accused-of-disinformation-and-promoting-teals-ntwnfb

    Take two in Bradfield: hundreds of teal volunteers head down a familiar road. Independent candidate Nicolette Boele has high hopes of being next in line to wrest a northern Sydney seat from the Liberals at the federal election
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/12/take-two-in-bradfield-hundreds-of-teal-volunteers-are-heading-down-a-familiar-road

    Independent MPs are elected for a reason – hung parliaments may be precisely what voters want. By Mark kenny
    https://theconversation.com/independent-mps-are-elected-for-a-reason-hung-parliaments-may-be-precisely-what-voters-want-251900

    Fresh independent costings done for the Greens show legal recreational cannabis could bring $700 million annually into Australia’s budget. On Thursday, the Greens will renew their pledge to push legal weed in the next parliament.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-13/greens-launch-fully-costed-scheme-to-legalise-cannabis/105040408

    Australian MP calls Trump’s tariffs a ‘dog act’ as former ambassador says ‘we’ve got to play it cool’
    Industry minister Ed Husic says aluminium and steel tariffs come after Australia ‘stood by and stood with Americans for many decades’
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/mar/12/ed-husic-australian-mp-donald-trump-tariffs-dog-act

    Michelle Grattan: Anthony Albanese didn’t mince words in responding to Donald Trump’s refusal to grant Australia an exemption from the United States’ tariff on aluminium and steel. “This is not a friendly act,” the prime minister declared bluntly.
    https://theconversation.com/view-from-the-hill-tariff-rebuff-feeds-into-debate-about-how-australia-handles-donald-trump-251624

    Trump has done us a favour by showing where we stand during peacetime. By Peter Hartcher
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/trump-has-done-us-a-favour-by-showing-where-we-stand-during-peacetime-20250312-p5lixf.html

    How to handle Donald Trump has become a central element of Australia’s election By David Speers
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-13/anthony-albanese-labor-trump-tariffs/105041630

    Tariffs could be turning point in Albanese’s ‘no comment’ strategy on Trump
    By foreign affairs reporter Stephen Dziedzic
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-12/tariffs-turning-point-albanese-response-trump/105043594

    The United States has become an unreliable ally under Donald Trump’s presidency and the Albanese government should urgently develop a plan B for Australia’s submarine fleet in case its AUKUS vision falls apart, according to Admiral Chris Barrie, former head of the Australian Defence Force.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/we-need-a-plan-b-admiral-s-call-for-aukus-rethink-over-unreliable-trump-20250312-p5lizw.html

    Anthony Albanese invokes ‘Team Australia’ in pitch to buy local after Trump tariffs
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-13/albanese-urges-buy-australian-after-trump-tariffs/105044144

    With Australian steel and aluminium set to incur US tariffs, global uncertainty will be our next challenge
    https://theconversation.com/with-australian-steel-and-aluminium-set-to-incur-us-tariffs-global-uncertainty-will-be-our-next-challenge-252021

    Leaked Coalition talking points show U-turn on insurance company break-ups. The mixed messages have raised questions about the sharpness of the opposition’s campaign operation before an imminent election, with some Liberals laying blame on the leader’s office.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/leaked-coalition-talking-points-show-backflip-on-insurance-company-breakups-20250312-p5liwm.html

    The opposition leader has promised female voters there won’t be an American-style reversal of women’s rights if he becomes prime minister.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/despite-forceful-wfh-agenda-dutton-makes-pledge-to-women-voters-20250311-p5lioo.html

    Events around Trump’s betrayal of Ukraine should have repercussions not only for our foreign policy, but also for our domestic policy, particularly in the way we may be led or misled by the strongman “leader”.
    https://johnmenadue.com/sad-day-for-the-us-as-it-fails-an-ally/

    The naive belief that Washington unconditionally cares about Australia has always been one of the sillier (and very dangerous) myths peddled by supporters of the ANZUS alliance. The point is that the US will only offer Australia protection if and when — and only if and when — it is in America’s interests to do so.
    https://johnmenadue.com/is-peter-dutton-the-tip-of-a-trumpist-foreign-policy-for-australia/

    Shaun Carney observes that Australians feeling political despair need only remember one thing … it could always be worse.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australians-feeling-political-despair-need-only-remember-one-thing-it-could-always-be-worse-20250312-p5livy.html

    Gone are the days when a ‘good job’ gets you a house – and now we have the data to prove it
    Greg Jericho
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2025/mar/12/gone-are-the-days-when-a-good-job-gets-you-a-house-and-now-we-have-the-data-to-prove-it

    NSW Premier was quick to call caravan plot ‘terror’. It matters when he knew it was a con job
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/premier-was-quick-to-call-caravan-plot-terror-it-matters-when-he-knew-it-was-a-con-job-20250312-p5lixb.html

    NSW Police Minister Yasmin Catley has repeatedly refused to say when she was informed that the caravan laden with explosives found at Dural was a “con job” organised by crime lords rather than a legitimate terrorism threat.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/minister-refuses-to-say-when-she-discovered-caravan-plot-was-con-job-20250312-p5liw9.html

    The NSW Labor government will be asked to buy Rosehill Racecourse for at least $5 billion to make way for 25,000 homes in a significant departure from initial plans for the Australian Turf Club to be quasi-developers of the site.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/revealed-the-new-5b-plan-for-rosehill-mini-city-20250312-p5lixm.html

    WA Labor’s factional makeup has changed dramatically since Saturday. Here’s what we know
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/western-australia/wa-labor-s-factional-makeup-has-changed-dramatically-since-saturday-here-s-what-we-know-20250312-p5lizv.html

    Machetes banned, police stop-and-search powers expanded in sweeping Victorian bail changes
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/we-got-it-wrong-premier-admits-bail-fail-crackdown-to-target-post-and-boast-criminals-20250312-p5lix8.html

    Victorian bail overhaul to treat accused children like adults in serious cases
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/victorian-bail-overhaul-to-treat-accused-children-like-adults-in-serious-cases-20250311-p5lirf.html

    Allan’s cartoonishly titled bail bill reveals the depths of bad government
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/victoria/allan-s-cartoonishly-titled-bail-bill-reveals-the-depths-of-bad-government-20250312-p5lixg.html

    Former Queensland Labor premier Anna Bligh believes voter “anger” over cost-of-living issues could be enough to swing the federal election in the Coalition’s favour. Acknowledging it would still be a challenge for Peter Dutton to secure the extra 18 seats required to take power, Bligh on Wednesday said it was not impossible. (With Labor friends like these…)
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/queensland/anger-over-economic-issues-could-deliver-power-to-dutton-s-coalition-20250312-p5lj2g.html

    Tasmanian Labor leader Dean Winter defends party’s opposition to privatisation after contradictory decade-old interview surfaces
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-12/tas-labor-dean-winter-privatisation-stance/105041632

    Trump allies are blaming Lutnick for Trump’s tariff turmoil. There is a growing consensus that Lutnick could be forced to take the fall for the economic chaos generated by the president’s unsteady tariff policies.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/11/trump-allies-lutnick-tariff-turmoil-00225137

    Canada and Europe have taken swift action against the United States in retaliation to tariffs on steel and aluminium that came into effect on Thursday (AEDT).
    https://www.thenewdaily.com.au/preview

    EU wields ‘sledgehammer’ against Trump tariffs. Brussels strikes back against the U.S. president’s 25 percent levies on steel and aluminium.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-tariffs-donald-trump-diplomat-eu-war-defending-nation-bloc/

    Centre-right party wins most votes in Greenland’s election as Donald Trump seeks control
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-12/centre-right-party-wins-most-votes-in-greenland/105044184

    Romania lashes out at Russia as Georgescu election ban furor intensifies
    Moscow: Stop violating democratic norms! Bucharest: That’s rich coming from you.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/romania-lashes-out-russia-calin-georgescu-election-ban-furor-intensifies/

    How Starmer saved Ukraine’s ceasefire as Trump and Zelenskyy raged. The U.K. prime minister and his top security adviser worked intensively to rescue the broken relationship between Kyiv and Washington, drafting a truce plan that might one day pave the way for peace.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/keir-starmer-ukraine-ceasefire-donald-trump-volodymyr-zelenskyy/

    The Guardian view on US-Europe relations: Britain is coming to a fork in the road. For now Keir Starmer can say there is a middle way, but Donald Trump will soon force Britain to pick a side
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/mar/12/the-guardian-view-on-us-europe-relations-britain-is-coming-to-a-fork-in-the-road

    Two of Westminster’s best-connected journalists Jack Blanchard (POLITICO) and Sam Coates (Sky) bring you everything you need to know about the week ahead in British politics. Podcast.
    https://www.politico.eu/podcast/politics-at-jack-and-sams/starmer-and-trump-best-of-frenemies/

    ECB resistance wavers as pressure mounts to seize Russian assets.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/governments-may-be-warming-to-the-idea-of-seizing-russian-assets-but-the-ecb-isnt/

    Trump’s Ukraine ceasefire plan: What we know so far. Your questions answered about the proposed Russia-Ukraine truce agreed between Marco Rubio and Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s team in Saudi Arabia.
    https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-ceasefire-plan-ukraine-jeddah-saudi-arabia-russia-fighting/

    North Sea oil tanker collision: What do we know?
    https://www.politico.eu/article/north-sea-oil-tanker-collision-what-we-know/

    Rahm Emanuel Is Gearing Up to Run for President. The former Chicago mayor is already on the hustings, finding new ways to attack Trumpism from the center.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/03/12/rahm-emmanuel-president-2028-column-00224241

    Senate Democrats are grappling with whether or not to support a House GOP funding patch less than three days before a possible government shutdown.
    https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/12/congress/senate-democrats-continuing-resolution-00226028

    New CNN poll: Americans are negative on Trump’s handling of economy
    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/12/politics/cnn-poll-trump-economy/index.html

    AI power consumption demands a rethink for energy infrastructure. By Paul Budde
    https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/ai-power-consumption-demands-a-rethink-for-energy-infrastructure

    Cartoon Time!

    Alan Moir

    Dionne Gain

    Cathy Wilcox

    Marija Ercegovac

    Michael Howard

    Matt Golding

    Matthew Absalom-Wong

    First Dog On the Moon

    Ben Jennings on UK Labour plans to cut disability benefits rather than impose a wealth tax

    Chris Riddell on Europe gasping at its €800bn rearmament bill as it accepts that Trump can’t be trusted

    From the Internet

    Enjoy!

  10. Good morning and thank you dawn patrollers.

    Trump got lucky with his shares when Australians were losing their jobs and businesses were closing during the Global Financial Crisis.
    Trump got lucky with his property deals when Australians were suffering a housing crisis.
    Trump on the taxpayer for his Alfred money run to Sydney while Australians were suffering a cyclone crisis.
    Trump on the taxpayer for taxpayer money run to the GF while Australians were suffering a cost-of-living crisis.
    Trump will get lucky with his free business lunches subsidised by Australian workers.
    Oh, my bad. Not Trump. Dutton.

  11. B.S.Fairman,
    Two reasons:
    1. Trump is trying to split Greenland away FROM Denmark.
    2. I believe that other GLP1 Agonists, such as Mounjaro which is made by Eli Lilly who are based in Indianapolis, is probably what Trump is accessing.

  12. Have you all noticed Trump’s repeated pyschosexual references?
    You know, how he links sexual predators and sexual abuse to persons of colour and people that he is kicking down on?
    Like asylum seekers.
    Like refugees.
    Like Indigenous people.
    Oops! My bad.
    Not Trump, Dutton.
    Well, actually, Trump AND Dutton.
    After all, they have the exact same attitude when it comes to dog acts.

  13. Electricity bills will rise by as much as 9 per cent from July 1, the Australian Energy Regulator has declared, a draft ruling that will intensify pressure on struggling households and threaten the re-election prospects of the federal Labor government.
    The AER said increases will vary across the National Electricity Market, but the largest jump will be seen in NSW, where prices are set to rise by up to 9 per cent. Increases are smaller in Queensland and South Australia, but prices will rise by between 3-6 per cent.
    Prices in Victoria are governed by a separate regulator, which earlier ruled prices will largely remain unchanged.
    Modest increases had been expected as the cost of producing electricity rose over the last six months amid a spate of coal outages, but the scale of the increases will take some by surprise.
    The AER noted increases in network costs, where distribution companies are bearing higher wages and increases in materials.
    While the increases will allow energy companies to recoup their costs, the AER said it has removed an element in the way it calculates the tariff known as a competition allowance.
    AER chair Clare Savage said the regulator weighed the need for energy companies to recoup their costs against the need to ensure affordability for households. “We’ve seen cost pressures across nearly every component of the [default market offer], and we have given careful scrutiny to every element of the [default market offer] cost stack to ensure prices are a reasonable reflection of the costs of a retailer to supply electricity,” Ms Savage said.
    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/mining-energy/electricity-bills-to-jump-as-much-as-9pc-in-costofliving-blow-energy-regulator/news-story/1f8a3e0777fa1e2fca4249d33f7f3321?amp

  14. The latest line from Donald Trump is that he will remove the tariffs on Canada WHEN they become the 51st State of America. 😐

    I think you can quite rightly call that Economic Intimidation and Blackmail.

  15. Another data point that the polling tide may be starting to turn. Not that Labor were ever in a losing position – the polls have been 50/50 or so (perhaps with a slight lean to the Coalition) for a year now, something that suggests that Labor will lose a few seats, but retain government easily enough (even as a minority). However, we may be headed for the result that I’ve long suspected: a returned majority Labor government with a similar narrow margin as now. It could be that Trump’s bull-in-a-china-shop approach to international affairs is giving moderate incumbents the world over a new lease on life. If 2024 was a year of anti-incumbent results, it could be that Trump’s greatest gift is to make the current incumbents, including our own, appear like the safer option.

  16. No, really … ?

    https://theconversation.com/independent-mps-are-elected-for-a-reason-hung-parliaments-may-be-precisely-what-voters-want-251900

    Denying people power

    Fitzgibbon is hardly the first to hyperventilate about the perils of a hung parliament where crossbench MPs may have a role in assuring confidence and supply numbers to one side or the other. But his solution to this alleged problem is novel to the point of bizarre.

    Despite calling Australia’s system “hyper-partisan”, he proposes that Anthony Albanese and Peter Dutton might collude ahead of the election in order to agree

    that whoever has the most seats post-election will be guaranteed supply and confidence for 18 months hence.

    Leaving aside that the independent MPs are in fact, independent, Fitzgibbon’s fix flies in the face of the very chamber whose dwindling primacy he formerly eulogised. That is, he proposes an arrangement between two opposing blocs that would pre-emptively close out non-major party MPs, despite their authority deriving from the people.

    This is not to say the question of any crossbench intentions in a hung parliament situation are beyond the limits of public conjecture. But a preventative neutering of their participation in the construction of a parliamentary majority (should it come to that) is a drastic and potentially counter-representative act.

    Democracy. I say, let’s give it a go – it can’t be any worse than our current system.

  17. Trump derangement syndrome now joined by Musk derangement syndrome behaviour like burning Telslas and showrooms and attacking cars is Leftie craziness.

    Not seeing Bidens zombie streets with Fentanyl,98% illegals drop at border and budget being repaired by cutting job for lifers.
    Business is being brought back into the USA ,Ukraine ceasefire leadership by Trump and China has tariffs via USA.
    Trans stupidity stopped in sports and woke DEI policies binned.

    I can go on …..

    So far so good!

    Tax cuts coming,debt reducing and trade balance reducing..

    Ymca it’s fun to stay….

  18. From Cat’s DP, which I thank her for:

    [‘The point is that the US will only offer Australia protection if and when — and only if and when — it is in America’s interests to do so.’]

    This was almost confirmed with Trump’s election. We would have some bargaining power with H.E. Holt and the JDFPG, but we’d fall into line if push came to shove. It’s time to stand on our own two feet by admitting the AUZUS Treaty’s a farce.

  19. Trump wasn’t expecting Europe and UK to unite.
    And didn’t expect Canada to fight back.

    That is what is going to cause him to pull back as he wrecks the economy.

  20. There hasn’t been a Ukraine ceasefire.
    Ukraine has agreed to a 30 day ceasefire.
    Russia can’t agree to one of those terms as it will simply mean that Ukraine rearms and recalibrates.

    However, it will allow Trump & co a get out clause – they can say they tried, but Russia refused to properly play ball – then back to supporting Ukraine. At least that seems to be Rubico’s plan – not necessarily the Whitehouse’s plan.

  21. Now, this is funny …

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-13/anthony-albanese-labor-trump-tariffs/105041630

    Donald Trump’s decision to slap tariffs on Australian steel and aluminium will hardly crush the Australian economy but it does represent a profound moment in the relationship and has opened a stark pre-election divide between the two major parties.

    In the blue corner, we have Dutton … who will blame Albo … and do nothing.

    In the red corner, we have Albo … who will froth and gesticulate … and do nothing.

    Choices, choices … 🙁

  22. P1: “Democracy. I say, let’s give it a go – it can’t be any worse than our current system.”

    I’m sure many Americans thought the same thing when deciding to vote for Trump.

  23. B.S.Fairman,
    You might be interested to read this:

    President Donald Trump’s team appeared to land on the same page on a ceasefire in the Ukraine-Russia war Wednesday, with the president, Vice President JD Vance and Secretary of State Marco Rubio all pushing the same message: Russia must acquiesce to the deal negotiated by the U.S. and Ukraine, or face economic consequences.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/12/russia-ukraine-ceasefire-pressure-00002984

  24. Penny Wong: I don’t think Australians respond very well to that kind of bullying behaviour from anybody, and certainly not from Russia …

    Richard Marles: Well it’s a really disappointing. There’s no doubt about that… So we’re not about to do anything

  25. Labor thought Trump would never be president again so Wong and the B grade prime minister Albanese and nutty Rudd worked him over geez how did that go?

    A sea of red ink is about to be announced in a budget federal labor should not be having so linking Dutton with Trump is playing into Libs hands shortly.

    Shhhh do not mention housing prices under labor through the roof destroying the young’s chance at buying a home because labor brought in over a million people in a couple of years and they are still piling into Australia.
    Rental crisis and homelessness crisis under federal labor government rabble better to attack Trump hey labor!

    Trend is not your friend dead cat bounce …

    Labor prefers China to the USA and Chinas economy is going to get a lot worse via the USA soon it already is a basketcase so reattaching to it instead of saying to business to diversify away from the communist dictatorship has been rewarded with China pissing on labor via its warship visit.

    Own goals.

    Rudd is going to plea to Trump to stop April 2 tariffs.

    Ha ha ha he he he yeah right ya called Trump “ traitor “ ya Git!

    Albanese is to scared to visit Trump.


  26. C@tmommasays:
    Thursday, March 13, 2025 at 8:51 am
    The latest line from Donald Trump is that he will remove the tariffs on Canada WHEN they become the 51st State of America.

    I think you can quite rightly call that Economic Intimidation and Blackmail

    Blackmailer inn chief. Amazing isn’t it?
    Some of posters think Trump is great. Shaking my head.

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