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Friday
Even slower progress in the count today. Labor has claimed victory in Fremantle after another batch of postals broke 637-488 in favour of Simone McGurk, pushing her lead out to 491. Finally some progress in Warren-Blackwood, where only rechecking occurred between Monday and Thursday. My system is still allowing for the possibility of either a Labor or a Liberal win, though far the most likely result will be that it goes to the Nationals. The Nationals lead Labor by 956 on the two-candidate preferred candidate count – the hypothetical chance of Labor winning would involve the Liberals beating the Nationals to second and Labor doing better out of preferences against the Liberals than they are against the Nationals. Thirty-six votes separate the Nationals and the Liberals on the primary vote, but the Nationals will surely gain as minor contenders are eliminated.
Thursday
The Liberals hold a 98-vote lead in Kalamunda after the two-candidate count almost caught up with the primary votes, and the first (but presumably not last) batch of absents broke narrowly in favour of Labor. My system is projecting the narrowest of Labor leads based on the fact that they did quite a lot better on postals in this seat in 2021 than is usual — the batch counted on election night slightly favoured the Liberals, but the general tendency is for later batches to get less favourable for them. One way or another, this seat seems up in the air, although The West Australian continues to report the Liberals are “confident”.
It was noted yesterday that Labor’s lead in South Perth was cut from 345 to 189 when nearly 70 votes at the Challenger Reserve booth were shifted from Labor to Liberal. It is apparent from comparison of the primary and two-candidate counts that they had this right the first time. A batch of absent votes also broke 902-791 to Labor today, leaving a published lead of 300 votes that almost certainly around 440 in reality, which is surely enough to withstand whatever’s still out there.
The upper house count isn’t too far behind the lower house now, though all the votes to this point are above-the-line. It’s looking like Labor 16, Liberal 11, Greens four, Nationals two, one each for One Nation, Legalise Cannabis and Australian Christians, and one in play. On the latter count, Animal Justice are on 0.43 quotas and One Nation’s second candidate will be on 0.35 after the election of the first, with the latter presumably to do well out of preferences from the Libertarians, Stop Pedophiles! and Shooters Fishers and Farmers (the latter of whom flopped after committing the rookie error of identifying themselves on the ballot paper as “SFFPWA”). An unknown quantity is “Independent” on 0.47 quotas – if most of this went to the ticket headed by former Legalise Cannabis member Sophie Moermond, rather than the ungrouped candidates, she too could be in contention.
Wednesday
Simone McGurk moved further ahead today in Fremantle, a second batch of absents breaking 1029-718 her way, increasing her lead from 31 to 342. Labor did badly out of rechecking in South Perth, where their lead fell from 345 to 189, mostly because nearly 70 votes at the Challenger Reserve booth were shifted from Labor to Liberal. Dawesville became the second seat to add absent votes to the count, which increased the Labor lead from 438 to 512 after breaking 1162-1088.
Tuesday
The big news (the only news, really) from today’s counting was that Simone McGurk moved into a 31-vote lead in Fremantle after absent votes broke 1390-1121 in her favour. I am not clear if there are more absent votes to come, but outstanding postals, of which there should be as many as 2000, seem very likely to favour McGurk. This puts Labor on track for a forty-sixth seat, and sets up a third successive state election at which no cross-benchers were elected to the lower house.
Monday
End of evening. Labor member Rebecca Stephens has conceded defeat in Albany, though it remains unclear if the winner will be Scott Leary of the Liberals or Thomas Brough of the Nationals. A point worth noting about the count for Kalamunda is that the seat had no dedicated early polling place, meaning all early votes were classified as absent votes, none of which have been counted yet. There are still three booths outstanding from a two-candidate count that currently has the Liberals ahead by 187, a situation that is unlikely to change much when they are added. The West Australian reports the Liberals “remain confident”. Since my brief review of the upper house on election night, both Labor and Liberal have improved enough to suggest they will win 16 and 11 seats respectively. That leaves the Greens assured of the balance of power with what looks like a certain four seats. The Nationals look solid for two, and One Nation, Legalise Cannabis and Australian Christians for one each. The last seat is harder to pick, although I would think Animal Justice well placed.
3pm. The WAEC is now conducting a two-candidate count between Simone McGurk and Kate Hulett in Fremantle, which so far has McGurk receiving 41.3% of overall preferences — the estimates I was going off earlier only had it at 34.4%. My projection still has Hulett ahead, but it might not be taking into account how heavily postal votes are going against her (1069 to 718), and will presumably continue to do so. With barely half the likely postals counted, the existing trend would be about enough to eliminate Hulett’s lead. So once again, the result is likely to come down to absents, which are difficult to predict. We also finally have a TCP count in Murray-Wellington, which suggests the Liberals are very likely to win.
Sunday night
I appeared on Ben Raue’s Tally Room podcast today to discuss the result, which you can access at the bottom of this update. I should also have a paywalled piece in Crikey later today (i.e. Monday). Developments from today’s counting, which mopped up mostly early polling places that didn’t finish counting last night:
Dawesville. My call of this seat for Labor got rescinded in the small hours of Saturday when a second batch of votes was added for the Dawesville Early Polling Place (presumably the first was election day votes and the second was the pre-polls), breaking 3109-2619 to Liberal and reducing the Labor lead to 438. As the first batch of postals favoured Labor slightly, Liberal hopes of closing the gap rest on what I’ve roughly calculated at around 3500 absent votes.
Murray-Wellington. Still no two-candidate count here, but the 4491 votes of the district’s early polling place reported early afternoon yesterday. This pushes my projection of the Liberal lead out to a seemingly formidable 2.4%, bringing it closer into line with the ABC’s 1.9%. Here as in many other places, this all hinges on the accuracy of our preference estimates. I note that One Nation polled an uncommonly strong 8.1% here, perhaps helped by their top position on the ballot paper. Donkey votes will go Labor as preferences.
Warren-Blackwood. I’m not exactly sure why, but the 1.4% Labor lead I was projecting last night has become a 2.6% lead for the Nationals, though there remains a theoretical hope for the Liberals.
End of Saturday night
This seat will be progressively updated over the coming week with updates on late counting for the Western Australian state election, starting with a review of the situation in the most doubtful seats as of the end of the night. A few general points before moving on to specifics. Accurate election eve polls, which in fact slightly overstated the Labor primary vote, had few predicting such a sweeping result. The minority of seats in which the two-party swing was below double digits included a rich haul of the election’s most keenly contested seats. The other outstanding feature of the result was the Liberals’ dismal performance in affluent Perth seats, of which Churchlands is only the most visible example.
With only three seats confirmed as Labor losses — Carine and Nedlands to Liberal, Geraldton to the Nationals — my system is calling 40 seats for Labor, four for the Nationals and three for the Liberals and twelve in doubt. However, I’m confident enough about Labor in Bateman and Kimberley and Liberal in Cottesloe that I won’t be detailing them further. I also think it very likely that Labor will lose Albany, though whether to the Nationals or the Liberals is unclear. If it’s the Nationals, the Liberals had better hope they stay ahead in the three further seats where my system rates them as such, as they may otherwise suffer the ignominy of failing to recover opposition status.
Albany. A close race for second between the Nationals and Liberals means the WAEC is sparing us the valuable insight that would be offered by a two-party count conducted between Labor and Nationals candidates. My own three-way results system is projecting Nationals candidate Scott Leary to finish ahead of Liberal candidate Tom Brough (who defeated Leary for Liberal preselection) by 30.1% to 27.6% and then giving him a 68.2% chance of winning the seat, but it factors in enough uncertainty about Brough dropping out to still give him a 17.6% chance. The remaining 14.2% allows for the possibility that Labor’s Rebecca Stephens may yet hold on.
Churchlands. One of the biggest stories of the evening was the prospect of spectacular failure for Basil Zempilas, but it proved illusory to the extent that his swing was locked up in seat’s early polling booth, which reported late in the evening. My system isn’t quite calling it though, and a swing of barely more than 3% looks to be the weakest of the election after Warren-Blackwood.
Fremantle. The WAEC conducted a Labor-versus-Greens preference count we will presumably never see, because the star performer here proved to be teal independent Kate Hulett, who trails Labor’s Simone McGurk by 33.2% to 28.8% on the primary vote. My own preference estimates, which split the Liberals 80-20 and the Greens 50-50, push Hulett to a solid 3.7% lead, but the ABC has other ideas, getting only so far as 0.7%.
Kalamunda. A lot of the biggest swings were in outer metropolitan seats, Kalamunda being the only one where the Labor margin wasn’t too big to matter. Liberal candidate Adam Hort leads by 272 on the two-candidate count, which is unlikely to change much when we get results from six booths that have so far reported only on the primary vote. A lot will depend on absent votes, which are hard to predict — they will include early votes cast outside the district, which I don’t believe was the case in the past.
Kalgoorlie. A three-way race between Labor, Liberal and the Nationals in which the current total of 5611 votes counted will shortly be swamped by the Kalgoorlie Early Voting Centre, encompassing 8241 votes pre-polls plus however many were cast there on election day. Here as in Albany, Labor, Liberal and the Nationals all have a chance, with my system presently favouring Labor.
Murray-Wellington. Due to some manner of glitch at the WAEC, no votes from this seat reported until late in the evening, by which time the person in charge of unlocking two-candidate counts had seemingly gone home. My preference estimates give the Liberals a 0.6% lead, but the ABC has it at 2.5%. The electorate’s early polling place is yet to report: it received 7167 early votes plus however many were cast there yesterday.
Pilbara. The WAEC conducted a Labor-versus-Nationals preference count here, but isn’t publishing it because Liberal candidate Amanda Kailis leads Kieran Dart of the Nationals 24.1% to 16.2% on the primary vote. My system still gives Dart a slender chance — he will presumably do well on One Nation preferences — but it is most likely a question of Labor-versus-Liberal that must presently be left to preference estimates, mine putting Labor 1.6% ahead, the ABC’s doing so by 2.1%.
South Perth. With a well advanced count including the two-candidate numbers, Labor’s Geoff Baker leads Liberal candidate Bronwyn Waugh by 345 votes, leaving much riding on absent votes. The postals counted so far only slightly favoured Waugh, and there’s a general tendency for late-arriving postals to be less favourable to the Liberals.
Warren-Blackwood. Labor’s Jane Kelsbie is a good chance of pulling off an extraordinary second win in one of the high-water marks of the 2021 landslide. Oddly, the WAEC has lifted the lid on the two-candidate despite the Nationals and Liberal candidates being in a very close race for second. This has the Nationals 400 votes in front, but the two-candidate count is lagging far behind the primary count, and my own projection that uses estimates to fill the gaps gets Kelsbie 1.4% ahead of the Nationals. There also remains the possibility that the Liberals will make the final count and sneak home.
For the Legislative Council, polling booths around the state got as far as they could with counting the first preference above-the-line votes last night. The numbers may well move around a lot, but at the moment there looks like a solid chance that the Greens will hold the balance of power in their own right, looking good for four seats with Labor in contention for 15. The Liberals at present look like winning ten and the Nationals two, with One Nation, Legalise Cannabis and Australian Christians looking good for a seat each, and the last seat maybe going to Animal Justice.
Tangney not looking like a gimme to the Liberals if these results are able to be overlaid onto the federal scene.
6 Seats in the Upper House to parties nominally to the Left of Labor, with 2 being Animal Justice and Legalise Cannabis. With Labor’s 15 it seems to me that the Live Export ban will become permanent in WA, even if it’s a federal initiative it won’t be overturned by the state, AND could WA be the first state to legalise cannabis!?! The possibilities over the next 4 years are intriguing.
Labor lost votes to the left and the right, which to me indicates they are driving down the center.
The Liberal man on the ABC was lamenting the Liberals didn’t go far enough right economically, but should drop the culture war stuff. A beginning I suppose. Economically Lars summed it up. The government has the money because of the GST deal; what would right wing economics bring to the table?
In Victoria we have a problem, we have large net immigration, the money has to be spent, otherwise life becomes intolerable and the GST money is going to WA.
Kerry Stokes must be a very unhappy camper this morning, all that culture bullshit and no result.
Victoria has a much valued higher education system which attracts student numbers, starting from The University of Melbourne
Further, Victoria commits to infrastructure spending which projects have a requirement for skilled labour this attracting numbers (in that regard where are we to resource the skills to establish a nuclear industry, noting Australia has no such technical plus labour resources?)
On another note, when you go to a Medical Practice or to see a specialist what do you note in regards nationality?
This focus on immigration panders to racism, as did the opposition to the Voice
A pretty solid win for Labor, as predicted all along by the polls and the pundits, Roger Cook seems to be a moderate, centrist sort of Premier who doesn’t frighten the horses too much.
As for the Liberals, are they really in a good position to achieve government in 2029? I’m not sure about that. Of course dear old Basil will inevitably challenge for the Opposition leadership, egged on by much of the media in Perth.
Thanks to William for all his hard work last night!
A song for Donald!
The following song is also great!
https://youtu.be/ZtVVU0Si184?si=Cla0jeOr1ZcTiTgg
Very early start for the people on Insiders which is coming from WA. Must be running on fumes.
I am assuming the “indicative” two candidate preferred on the WAEC site is based on actual preference flows….?
https://www.elections.wa.gov.au/elections/state/sgelection#/sg2025/electorate/DAW/results
It seems to me that the Newspoll and DemosAU polls were very accurate on primaries but are underestimating the 2PP flows to Labor
I.e. the last newspoll had Labor’s OV 2% higher than it currently is, libs nats and Greens all within 0.5%, and yet its 2pp is 1% lower
USA gov debt 36 trillion includes public debt.But not state and local gov debt.
$392 billion yearly has to be paid on interest thats 16% of total fiscal spending in 2025 fiscal year.
Source -Fiscal data treasury .gov.
On top of that USA in imports/exports is a trillion a year in deficit aka imports are higher than exports.100 billion a month approx going backwards.
So April 2 “reciprocal tariffs”will be announced and kick in China ran a trade surplus of $295 billion in 2024 with USA.
Why is the USA gifting 295 billion a year to communist dictatorship China in surplus?
China with Deep Seek has also taken a trillion off values recently of USA AI companies.
Trump has been busy sorting out drug issue and Canada and Mexico wait till he gets to the rest of the world it’s going to get really ugly.
Aust runs a surplus with USA ,100 countries do not they are in trouble will be giving up a lot of trade via tariffs.
Next week will get Alum and energy tariffs by USA stupid federal labor gov kept Rudd as Ambassador who called Trump a “Traitor”.So Aust in firing line no favours probably.
No wonder Trump has DOGE and is trying to fix the disaster that is trade policy and debt.
Victoria is also sacking staff on mass’s as they are a basket case also.Debt compounds if left alone.
Also explains why USA is asking Europe etc to stump up for defence and pay for Ukraine as USA is bordering on broke if it does not change asap its spending and trade policies.
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Your post is nonsense. It just shows you are that ignorant you can only parrot the ignorant nonsense coming from trump.
The USA spends 295 billion or whatever on Chinese goods and service because independent actors ( you know the land of the free) have decided Chinese is a better deal. The 295 billions pays for work the Chinese do and partially for the raw materials brought from Australia. Apart from the fact that China is now producing competitive goods and services, the type of government in Chinese is immaterial.
DOGE is about trying to save trickle down economics, which it has been proven to be as real as pixel dust.
Poor old Pied has been predicting doom and gloom for the Lefties and has just slipped onto his arse.
So on a blog about a significant victory for the ALP, now he starts predicting glorious outcomes from that fraudster/rapist Trump, who has had to backflip on his tariff bullshit twice.
As a part of Pied’s diversionary rant he said that Trump is sorting out a drug problem with a Canadian source when there isn’t one. Although Trump has reversed tariffs on Canadian imports twice, Canadian state leaders have not reversed restrictions on American alcohol for example. One of the Canadian state leaders actually aplogised to the American manufacturers and workers impacted and told them to go and talk to Trump about it. As a direct consequence of the incompetent meanderings of Trump, a certain wipeout of the Canadian “lefties” has been converted to a possible victory. Has Dutton and that stupid woman Cash repeated their desire to mimic Trump here, no way, Trump is poison throughout the world. Note also that China is a manufacturing powerhouse, as is Mexico because most American manufacturers shifted their operations there to make extra profits.
It now looks like the Nationals will be the official opposition in WA. Dutton will do no better than the Mettam/Zempalis omnishambles.
When it comes to drugs, the Republican party used to be all about personal responsibility. So much for Nancy Reagan’s Just Say No. Now if an American becomes addicted to fentanyl, it’s the fault of Canada and Mexico.
Is there info on indicative quotas for Legislative Council. WAEC only seems to have vote totals.
I will also add the stupidity of federal labor failures reconnecting with China has meant a delayed reckoning only as we should be diversifying as much as possible from China who will be likely smashed by USA trade retaliation which will flow to us.
They were always going to buy our iron ore as they have to not because they want to.As soon as supply from Africa come they will dump us.
Their boat tour last week highlights they hate us and democracy.Labor sells out to communists.
Human rights slaughter in China acceptable hey labor!
USA cannot go on like it has April 2 will decide if Trump is the real deal on debt and trade disaster or he will just back down and kick the can down the road.
Spence
Kevin Bonham has done some analysis I am guessing based on LA PVs
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2025/03/western-australia-2025-live.html
This is not the open thread. This is a WA thread.
Open thread is here: https://www.pollbludger.net/2025/03/08/yougov-51-49-to-labor-open-thread-5/
Granny Annysays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 10:11 am
It now looks like the Nationals will be the official opposition in WA.
How do you come to that conclusion?
On Fremantle, I have a very clear memory of Simon Holmes a Court being asked at the press club before 2022 if he wasn’t a Labor front why his independents were running only in Liberal seats.
He answered that if there was a Labor government as bad at Morrison’s there would likely be independents running against Labor members.
He even nominated the Hunter as somewhere he thought they might do well.
Not suggesting that Cook’s government is anywhere near Morrison’s.
but in Fremantle we had an excellent independent candidate (according to someone who lives there) and with the Greens realising they couldn’t win and running dead to give their enemy Labor a poke in the eye, McGurk was in strife.
The likely new member Kate Hulett is strongly anti fossil fuels. I wonder if the Greens might try to woo her into their fold.
My friend said Freo people were angry when Cook announced a free bus to Scarborough, their own having been dumped a few years ago.
All politics is local.
WA loses 25% of its GST. Far greater deficit than any other state.
Channel 7 crying that their man flopped.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/politics/state-election-2025/wa-election-2025-basil-zempilas-and-john-carey-go-head-to-head-in-fiery-exchange-on-live-tv-c-17974195
“FUBARsays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 10:57 am
Lars Von Trier says:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 6:36 am
WA Labor should erect a statue to Scomo for the GST deal. Every state in the country is in deficit except WA.
WA loses 25% of its GST. Far greater deficit than any other state.”
What a shock! This deadshit mouth breather doesn’t get horizontal fiscal equalisation either!
Arange at 10.46am
The Opposition Leader is currently a Nat. The West Australian has a recent update of 4 seats each for the Nats/Libs. It’s possible that the Nats could have more seats than the Libs, and the Libs will have to sort out the Mettam/Zempalis imbroglio.
Granny Annysays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 11:20 am
“The Opposition Leader is currently a Nat. The West Australian has a recent update of 4 seats each for the Nats/Libs. It’s possible that the Nats could have more seats than the Libs, and the Libs will have to sort out the Mettam/Zempalis imbroglio.”
While that is theoretically possible, the ABC has the Libs with 5 and ahead in 3, and the Nats with 3 and ahead in 1.
The Liberals in WA remain unelectable. They are very few. They are old. They are reactionary. They are sexist. They are racist. They are Trumpy. They are desperate. They are fixated on the irrelevant.
It’s likely that many voters under the age of 30 will have never met a Liberal….and if they have, they will know they have met a lying goose that honks on about nonsense.
If the results yesterday were replicated federally the reactionaries would lose further ground…possibly losing both Moore and Canning. They face another defeat in Curtin. In 2022 the 2PP split federally was 55/45 in Labor’s favour. Yesterday it was 58/42.
The Reactionaries should dissolve themselves and start again.
Cook’s slogan is Made in WA. Manufacturing here is about 4% of state product, similar to though lower than the share in the national economy. It’s an idea that resonated with voters. WA has a very productive economy….and Labor runs it very well.
Hack, woke, Partisansays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 11:42 am
“The Liberals in WA remain unelectable. They are very few. They are old. They are reactionary. They are sexist. They are racist. They are Trumpy. They are desperate. They are fixated on the irrelevant.
It’s likely that many voters under the age of 30 will have never met a Liberal….and if they have, they will know they have met a lying goose that honks on about nonsense.
If the results yesterday were replicated federally the reactionaries would lose further ground…possibly losing both Moore and Canning. They face another defeat in Curtin. In 2022 the 2PP split federally was 55/45 in Labor’s favour. Yesterday it was 58/42.”
Unsurprisingly, every single claim here is either misleading, subjective, or objectively false. Particularly the 11th claim, and the Curtin claim
2022 Notional 2PP in Curtin: 55.6 in the Liberals favour. (Source: ABC news)
The Tory nut jobs infiltrate this thread with their repetitive nonsense, and get smashed on the facts
WA is our nearest State to China
How many significant USA identified brand names and businesses have shop front exposure to China’s population?
Even Australian business does
And China has exposure to USA domiciled sovereign debt – and no doubt also thru Equity Markets
It is not and never has been the debt – it is debt to GDP
Where is the comparison between Australia and the USA – noting the USA population gives a comfort versus Australia – and then you get to China?
Simply government is not a business – it funds needs including the economy during times of stress
These are not profit cells
Government is not there to trade at profit
Business answerable to Shareholders and households answerable to the household budget are
Government is the safety blanket
Pied Piper, off topic and deflecting. Sit in the reality and absorb it. The Labor party in WA has a resounding return to office. The Liberal party is currently unelectable. A healthy democracy deserves a viable opposition. The focus should be returning the Liberals to an alternative voice.
Unsurprisingly, every single claim here is either misleading or objectively false. Particularly the 11th claim, and the Curtin claim
2022 Notional 2PP in Curtin: 55.6 in the Liberals favour. (Source: ABC news)
I made a claim about the Statewide 2PP split rather than Curtin. The Statewide split in the 2022 election was about 55/45. I didn’t check the vote in Curtin, where the split would have been rather different.
However, it is the case that the Liberals fared worse yesterday than they did in 2022 federal election.
Unsurprisingly, you misread my post.
And what exactly differs the WA Tories from SA, from Victoria, from Tasmania, from New South Wales, from the NT and from Queensland?
And federally?
They have been infiltrated by right wing religious zealots and the IPA
Nationally
Hack, woke, Partisansays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 12:01 pm
“I made a claim about the Statewide 2PP split rather than Curtin. The Statewide split in the 2022 election was about 55/45. I didn’t check the vote in Curtin, where the split would have been rather different.
However, it is the case that the Liberals fared worse yesterday than they did in 2022 federal election.
Unsurprisingly, you misread my post.”
That’s still misleading, since it doesn’t have the context of the 2021 (putting it mildly) landslide, but whatever
Arange says:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 11:53 am
Hack, woke, Partisansays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 11:42 am
“The Liberals in WA remain unelectable. They are very few. They are old. They are reactionary. They are sexist. They are racist. They are Trumpy. They are desperate. They are fixated on the irrelevant.
It’s likely that many voters under the age of 30 will have never met a Liberal….and if they have, they will know they have met a lying goose that honks on about nonsense.
If the results yesterday were replicated federally the reactionaries would lose further ground…possibly losing both Moore and Canning. They face another defeat in Curtin. In 2022 the 2PP split federally was 55/45 in Labor’s favour. Yesterday it was 58/42.”
Unsurprisingly, every single claim here is either misleading, subjective, or objectively false.
Oh, I think these claims are modest. I know several Liberals. They really do honk on about absolute nonsense. They also publish lies. Think of FUBAR who is a thoroughly disingenuous, gaslighting campaigning reactionary. He’s not alone. The other Liberals I know parrot the same stupidities and falsehoods. All the time. And they are living relics. The Liberal Party is a museum piece. They are supercilious, self-glorifying, anti-social, anti-democratic reactionaries. These are their most favourable traits.
Just a quick question on the Legislative Council. Your estimate of Green 4, Labor 15, Liberal 10, Nationals 2, One Nation, Legalise Cannabis and Australian Christians 1 each and Animal Justice for the last seat adds up to 35, but aren’t there 37 seats?
Peter Csays:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 12:04 pm
“And what exactly differs the WA Tories from SA, from Victoria, from Tasmania, from New South Wales, from the NT and from Queensland?”
That the Labor state-government is appealing to federal 2PP LNP voters, AKA high approval above the Federal 2PP Labor vote. Can also be applied to SA Labor.
An opposition needs to give the public a reason to elect them. Rarely does just saying the government is bad, vote for us instead. “Small Target” strategy only works when the government has outstayed their welcome.
As I said last night, it is really hard to be an effective as opposition without about 2o MPs and MLCs.
So what’s wrong with the WA Libs?
Early on the ABC coverage Steve Thomas, a one term lower house member in the 2000s and an upper house member since 2017, said the party needed to move to the right.
Later in the night, perhaps realising the stupidity of that, he said it needed to become more conservative.
Yeah right.
One of the independent panellists, I think it was Kos Samaras, suggested the liberal problem seemed to be relating to people outside the inner ring.
“Perth” now stretches about 150km along the coastal plain from south of Mandurah to Yanchep. There are whole new suburbs south east and north east of the city, up to 50km away.
The suggestion was that a regime based in the old western suburbs and riverside heartland just doesn’t “get it”.
Their opposition to expanded public transport for the fringes is just one sign of that.
The Liberals should ask themselves a searching question….Why should anyone vote for them at all?
They will be very hard-pressed to come up with satisfactory answers. The very simple thing is that voters do not trust them. Nor should they. They are Trumpy. They lie all the time. They are incompetent ideologues. Voters have worked them out.
Ross – One thing that happens when the conservative parties get crushed is they loss the board church element of their party. The core of the party ends up as small narrow group. In WA’s case it is old school conservative areas, in Victoria and South Australia it is right-wing religious nutters.
Labor tends not to have that issue as much when they get crushed as they have the Labour movement to fall back on which is quite diverse.
pied piper says:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 9:38 am
On top of that USA in imports/exports is a trillion a year in deficit aka imports are higher than exports.100 billion a month approx going backwards.
So April 2 “reciprocal tariffs”will be announced and kick in China ran a trade surplus of $295 billion in 2024 with USA.
Why is the USA gifting 295 billion a year to communist dictatorship China in surplus?
You really do not understand this. The situation is
1. The extra-territorial/extra-continental US economy is really very large….about half the size of the Continental economy. That is…a large part of the resources of other countries are devoted to satisfying consumption in the US. These resources could be used to serve those populations. But they are not used that way. They are applied to the satisfaction of US consumers.
2. The US settles its import bills by issuing currency. Currency is an IOU. The US buys goods from others by issuing IOUs that are valid in the US. So those IOUs are returned to US where they are used to buy other USD-denominated IOUs….bonds, bills, equities.
In a circular process, production in the extra-territorial US subsidiary territories is co-funding the US capital markets.
This is incredibly valuable to the US.
3. Trump is going to wreck it.
As has already been mentioned, this is a WA thread. There is an open thread to discuss pied piper’s trolling.
doubt much of the labor retention of previously marginal to slightly safe liberal seats will translate into strong federal results for alp.
while satisfied by the state labor govt. many care very little for albo, yet to forget the voice, and feel federally the country is on the wrong track
Tangney to go blue
“Keep the sheep” is a very confusing message since the proponents of it want to get rid of the sheep by exporting them…..
Rossmcg @ #18 Sunday, March 9th, 2025 – 7:48 am
The Freo Cat bus was cancelled by the Freo council which was funding 60% of it.
I handed out HTV’s yesterday & scrutineered.
A story yet to emerge is the shocking performance of the WAEC. Throughout the day there were widespread reports of WAEC staff providing misleading voting advice about Legislative Council voting, and other allegations I won’t risk the ire of Mr Bowe by repeating, which got shot up the chain to party office & may well emerge in the media in coming days.
It was clear polling booths were understaffed & training of the staff who were there was poor.
While scrutineering, the Liberal scrutineer & I had to explain to the WAEC staff it was up to them to adjudicate votes, not us, before we both realized they needed an explainer on what a valid vote was & help adjudicating. Then there was the explainer they needed on how to do a preference count, and yes, it’s a problem if there are two votes missing (which were found).
The polling in WA has been pretty accurate and indicates Labor are in massive trouble federally there. People are quite capable of distinguishing between state and federal politics and the polling shows a massive dislike of federal Labor. Dutton being opposition leader gives Labor some chance but Albo is extremely hard to get behind for the neutrals- the mumbling is a bad ‘look’.
Seadog
Yes, the Freo free bus was previously funded by the council and locals were filthy.
But the Labor decision to fund a new service for Scarborough had Freo people asking “what about us?”
When you have an independent campaigning on the basis that the government is taking a safe seat for granted such decisions are a gift.
JaylinWoodic says:
Sunday, March 9, 2025 at 1:32 pm
“Keep the sheep” is a very confusing message since the proponents of it want to get rid of the sheep by exporting them…..
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I thought this slogan was perhaps a protest against the LC reforms and the disenfranchisement of the regional ovine representatives. /s (thanks Mostly Interested)
should of spent less time campaigning and more time winning the election
*pied piper says:*
*Judgement day.*
*Synergy and Western power are a mess late swing will keep it a respectable loss.*
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A very respectable loss indeed with the 2nd biggest 2PP vote for WA Labor ever and a likelihood to win 43-45 seats, higher than even the polling suggested.