Federal polls: RedBridge Group and Roy Morgan (open thread)

Two new federal polls show the Coalition in front, one suggesting the swing is strongest in the outer suburbs.

Two new federal polls:

• RedBridge Group has its first federal poll since November (not counting its MRP poll with Accent Research), which has the Coalition leading 51.5-48.5 on two-party preferred compared with a 50-50 result last time. On the primary vote, Labor is down three to 31%, the Coalition up two to 40% and the Greens steady on 11%. The poll also finds Coalition supporters are more firm in their voting intention (61% solid versus 34% soft) than Labor voters (51% solid and 39% soft). Attendant media coverage is making much of regional breakdowns showing a 9% swing against Labor in the outer suburbs, compared with 5% in the inner and middle suburbs, essential no change in provincial cities, and a 3% swing in Labor’s favour in rural areas, although the error margins on these individuals breakdowns are around 6%. The poll was conducted last Monday to Friday from a sample of 1013.

• The regular weekly Roy Morgan poll likewise records the Coalition with a 51.5-48.5 lead on both the respondent-allocated and previous election flow measures of two-party preferred (which were respectively 50-50 and 50.5-49.5 in Labor’s favour last time). The primary votes are Labor 29% (down one), Coalition 40.5% (up two), Greens 11% (down half) and One Nation 4% (down one-and-a-half). The poll was conducted Monday to Sunday from a sample of 1688.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Scott says:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:01 pm
    Nadia

    The 16.6% swing against Labor party primary in the Werribee by-election can be ignored to a certain extent

    Liberal party primary vote 29%, only an improvement by 3.7% on the state election result
    Labor primary vote was 28.9% , close to equal with the liberal party

    The liberal party is not getting the majority of non lib/nats to swing to them , and 2pp
    ================
    I have a different view on this Scott.
    Werribee is a dead red ALP seat, and is often won on primaries alone.
    The Libs topping the primaries in a dead redder, has to be of major concern too.
    Consider Labor topping the primaries in Maranoa or Kennedy, or the Libs topping the primaries in Chifley.
    If that sort of swing is replicated in the swing seats/Labor marginals in Victoria, & the LNP vote holds up, then the ALP will start losing divisions down there. I’ve suggested…
    1. Aston
    2. McEwan
    3. Dunkley
    4. Chisholm (despite being a poor candidate)
    5. Corangamite
    6. Holt (division to the east of Dunkley), &
    7. Add in Monash which should revert straight back to the Libs (from the “indie” Lib).

    That’s my read. Need some more Vic based polls of course. Hopefully we’ll get some state based data out of today’s YouGov. Trouble set in around June last year per the poll data tab.

  2. Rex Douglas says:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:24 pm
    Independent MP Allegra Spender has flagged that electoral spending reform would feature in any negotiations in the event of a hung parliament.
    GA live blog
    Lib and Lab will both say no change and that will be that.

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    If its a hung parliament not a minority , Allegra spender wont be in parliament
    Allegra spender primary vote was 35%
    The liberal party would win the seat of Wentworth ,

  3. Ah ok, thanks Nadia

    Purely on name recognition and personal brand I’d say Lambie has a reasonable chance of reelection, I’d say Tammy Tyrrell has Buckley’s of getting her candidate up, although you never can tell with Tassie!

  4. nadia88 says:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:28 pm

    6. Holt (division to the east of Dunkley), &
    7. Add in Monash which should revert straight back to the Libs (from the “indie” Lib).

    That’s my read. Need some more Vic based polls of course. Hopefully we’ll get some state based data out of today’s YouGov. Trouble set in around June last year per the poll data tabnadia88 says:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:28 pm

    3. Dunkley

    That’s my read. Need some more Vic based polls of course. Hopefully we’ll get some state based data out of today’s YouGov. Trouble set in around June last year per the poll data tab.
    ——————
    they were not accurate on this
    https://au.yougov.com/politics/articles/48747-dunkley-seat-poll-shows-liberals-lead-51-49-in-upcoming-by-election

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    Wonder they change from this , if not , it doesnt look good for yourgov

  5. Per Jacqui.
    * half her team left her after the recent Tas election
    * Tyrrell walked out on her last March
    * there was some petty issue about a staff member and nail polish
    * looks to me like she has issues managing/getting along with people
    Tassie posters probably know the play a bit better but I think time might be up for her.

    OK, well hopefully newspoll in 5 hrs.

    Edit: Scott. They were pretty accurate with the Voice, and that was national.

  6. I’ve been taking a closer look at the YouGov MRP poll today and something that stands out to me is large swings against Labor in its safe Adelaide seats, such as -9.7 in Kingston, -7.8 in Spence, -7.4 in Makin, -6.6 in Hindmarsh and -6.2 in Adelaide.

    Yet there’s relatively small swings in Boothby (-3.9) and Sturt (-2.6). The driver of this seems to be an oddly high One Nation vote, up to 16% in Spence.

  7. C@tmomma @ #2773 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 3:00 pm

    3 Coalition Senators from SA. I want some of what she’s smoking! 😆

    Outside of 2007 and 2013, both featuring Xenophon at the peak of his popularity (and, in the latter case, Labor only won one seat), I can’t think of a half-Senate election in recent history where the Liberal Party hasn’t won three seats.

  8. nadia88 says:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:37 pm

    Edit: Scott. They were pretty accurate with the Voice, and that was national.

    ————————
    Yes
    But voting in elections is not the same as referendum
    as the Dunkley by-election showed
    Dunkley was a no majority in the referendum

  9. I thought I would look at the difference between the scientific approach to facts and how those with no scientific understanding do instead.

    So let’s look at what’s happening today in Tasmania. A cold snap of weather has helped firefighters control blazes burning through Huon Pine groves, some of which are more than 3,000 years old.

    So what does a follower of the anti -science climate denier cult, whose knowledge comes from the propaganda dispensed by the minerals councils, say about this report? They would say, “Look, we still get cold weather, so the Earth isn’t warming.”

    What do the scientifically trained say instead? Groves of Huon Pine, untouched by fires for more than 3,000 years, are now burning down. We are in deep doo-doo.

    No wonder our insurance premiums are increasing . Our homes are no longer safe from the effects of climate change. Look at what happened to Los Angeles in the winter. Do you think areas of Australia are any safer in summer, given the right mitigating factors ? If Huon Pine Groves that were perfectly safe from fire for at least 3,000 years are now burning, anything could be at risk. Even Dutton’s costly nuclear- powered, exorbitantly priced energy emitters likely can’t be protected from the ravages of bushfires now.

  10. Kirsdarke @ #2809 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:08 pm

    I’ve been taking a closer look at the YouGov MRP poll today and something that stands out to me is large swings against Labor in its safe Adelaide seats, such as -9.7 in Kingston, -7.8 in Spence, -7.4 in Makin, -6.6 in Hindmarsh and -6.2 in Adelaide.

    Yet there’s relatively small swings in Boothby (-3.9) and Sturt (-2.6). The driver of this seems to be an oddly high One Nation vote, up to 16% in Spence.

    Outer suburb revolt.

    Also, I need everyone to stop treating SA like it’s some island that is resisting the anti-Labor mood of the rest of the country right now. It doesn’t matter how popular our Premier (or more to the point, how weak our opposition) is, there is a lot of anger at Albanese here too. Sure, the state government’s standing might soak up a little bit of the swing but there is still going to be a swing against them.

    Labor are not going to gain Sturt, nor are we going to elect 3 Labor + 1 Green Senator or any other fantasies like that. At this point, Boothby is shaky.

    All over Australia, it’s going to be damage control for the ALP and praying they can sandbag enough seats to manage to retain government.

  11. Bizzcansays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 11:08 am
    J J Hallsays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:23 am
    This from the Guardian:
    But the Australian Marine Conservation Society (AMCS) said that – in response to the Imas report – that a slight improvement in the Maugean skate population would not save it from extinction. It said it was especially true if there was another extreme weather event in Macquarie Harbour in the next 10 years.
    AMCS shark expert Dr Leonardo Guida said the new report shows a “strong correlation between increased salmon farming intensity and a drop in estimated Maugean skate numbers”.
    “The fate of the skate literally rises and falls alongside salmon production,” he said.
    “The skates caught in 2024 were mostly old adults that will not be around much longer given they live to around 10-12 years, and there hasn’t been enough time to show that the uptick is solely from juveniles surviving to breeding age.
    “The scientists acknowledge huge uncertainty in the data from animals caught in 2023 and 2024 that shows something has happened that’s making the skates easier to catch. Without knowing exactly what happened, we’re unfortunately no longer comparing apples with apples from previous years.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/15/albanese-sparks-anger-with-pledge-over-controversial-salmon-farming-in-macquarie-harbour
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    This is code for: “Scientists don’t agree with my environmentalist politics, so ill find other experts to maintain the narrative that the locals just need to learn to code”
    It must feel really good to be in inner Sydney or Melbourne and campaigning for Tasmanians to loose their jobs.

    _________________
    @Bizzcan

    I didn’t actually post anything specifically from my own perspective as I was actually noting that there was a little more to the story than the ABC was giving credit. But apparently that makes me some sort of rabid environmentalist that speaks in “code”.

    Anyway, fwiw (probably not much, in your case) the UTAS research institute that conducted the research posted online yesterday that they were “cautiously optimistic” with the new data, although they emphasise the need for further monitoring to establish if there is an ongoing uptick in skate numbers. I agree with that position:
    https://www.utas.edu.au/about/news-and-stories/articles/2025/maugean-skate-returns-to-levels-not-seen-for-a-decade-but-not-out-of-the-woods-yet

    What concerns me more is in this article from the ABC in December:
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-26/maugean-skate-critically-endangered-status-not-pursued/104761668

    In particular, these comments:
    “Mr Jacobi also argued projections of future skate population decline, which was reviewed by University of Tasmania conservation ecologist Barry Brook in salmon industry-funded research was “now out of date and cannot be relied upon to provide meaningful population estimates”.

    And this,
    “Professor Brook wrote to federal Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek following his review, saying the projections “cannot be relied upon to draw firm conclusions about the future of the Maugean skate” and called for the projections to be “redone from the ground up”.

    Plibersek’s office make it clear in the same article that they were not considering the previous research in isolation and encouraged the updating of projections with the further data. It appears to me that Albo’s decision reported today is giving considerable weight to an opinion which is clearly funded by the Salmon industry, and as usual, the industry lobbyists are getting what they want.

  12. Oakeshott Countrysays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:24 pm
    Entropy @ #2794 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:06 pm

    Oakeshott Countrysays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 3:46 pm
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    You live in Newcastle, don’t you? Are you suggesting that nobody has asked you if you want some coals?

    I was born in Wallsend where there were surface dumps of coal – so if I wanted coal I tended to pick it up.
    I am just having a mental vision of someone buying morphine on the street and taking it into the place with the largest cache of legal narcotics in the suburb and for which they have sole custodianship during a night shift.
    (However, you do need an accomplice if you intend to steal narcotics from the stock without detection)
    ===============================================

    Or, at the very least, a hospital pharmacist whose stocktaking measures are very haphazard.

    Though I suspect you could possibly get away with small amounts if you pocketed some that were meant for chronically ill patients. However, that would mean you were showing a disregard for the pain those patients were suffering.

  13. Kirsdarkesays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:38 pm
    I’ve been taking a closer look at the YouGov MRP poll today and something that stands out to me is large swings against Labor in its safe Adelaide seats, such as -9.7 in Kingston, -7.8 in Spence, -7.4 in Makin, -6.6 in Hindmarsh and -6.2 in Adelaide.
    ========================================================

    Strange, if I read The Wombats’ posts correctly. These people are all inner-city elites who deserve nothing and will receive nothing under a Dutton LNP Government.

  14. Kirsdarke @ #2809 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:38 pm

    I’ve been taking a closer look at the YouGov MRP poll today and something that stands out to me is large swings against Labor in its safe Adelaide seats, such as -9.7 in Kingston, -7.8 in Spence, -7.4 in Makin, -6.6 in Hindmarsh and -6.2 in Adelaide.

    Yet there’s relatively small swings in Boothby (-3.9) and Sturt (-2.6). The driver of this seems to be an oddly high One Nation vote, up to 16% in Spence.

    And the only thing that Pauline Hanson has done recently is something that both major parties condemned her for. So, are there that many bigots that formerly supported the major parties flocking to her? I doubt it.

  15. Interesting quote I read from a US politics professor, Lane Crothers today.

    On reflection, it seems clear that the greatest trick Donald Trump has ever pulled is convincing his supporters that because he hates the same people they do (which he does), he actually likes his supporters. He does not, of course: he hates them too. As they are all too rapidly learning these days.

  16. It is truly wonderful to see all those who had never heard of the Maugean Skate suddenly becoming passionate about them.

    The core problem here? Current global human biomass must have protein to survive and thrive. Around a billion people obtain most of their protein from fish. That will not go away.

    Around half the world’s fish protein intake is now farmed fish. Fish protein is especially important for people who are ‘food insecure’, aka people who go from not being sure about an evening meal to famine and back.

    I am not sure about the quantum of fish protein which would be foregone in relation to the Maugean Skate but my guess is that it would represent around 10% of Tasmania’s salmon production.

    The scientists say that it is probably either the salmon farms OR the Maugean Skate. Despite very high levels of uncertainty about the population and the age class structure of the population, I am inclined to believe that they know what they are talking about

    Putting some numbers on it, 40-120 individuals of an entire skate species versus $179 million a year and 120 jobs.
    Thus the choice is an unusually clear binary in the narrowest of senses.

    IMO, the current uproar about a single species of fish completely ignores the large choices our civilization has already made.

    Globally, fish farming is implicated a huge range of terrible environmental impacts. These range from killing biodiversity under sea pens, mass destruction of coastal wetlands and mangrove forests, though stuffing around with the genetics of wild species, to over-fishing of wild feed stocks for farmed fish.

    What the current moral panic ignores is that, in effect, there is little difference between fish farming and land farming. Both are more or less entirely destructive of biodiversity on their footprints. Both are prime drivers of extinction. Go and have a look at any wheat paddock that delivers your bread, any rice padi that delivers your rice or any potato paddock that delivers your spuds. Most of our biodiversity lives in soils.

    Both marine and terrestrial farming drive a situation in which governments, if they do anything at all, and as a result of moral panic drivers, get into species-level palliative care. We have a couple of thousand species that are on their way out, their fate almost certainly baked in by climate change if nothing else.

    In a situation where environmental funding is universally insufficient, the species-level palliative care approach drives a disproportionate amount of funding to species that have very often no or little or terminal ecosystem functions. They may have charisma. They may be useful as moral panic icons. But they are essentially already irrelevant as evolutionary players or drivers. The palliative care approach drives the illusion of action and of human agency when it is the mass of humanity’s pressure on biodiversity that is the main decision already made.

    The US has spent US$35 million on Californian Condor recovery. That is a subspecies of the Condor. There are 500 of them so that comes to around $70,000 per living individual. That investment has generated all sorts of jobs, true. To avoid giving them lead poisoning from scavenging off shot animals, the birds must attend feeding stations where humans provide dead, lead-free animals.

    The skate would come in at around $1.5 million to $4.5 million per fish per year (depending on whether there are 40 or 120 of them), as well as a job gone per individual fish.

    The skate would come in at around $1.5 million to $4.5 million per individual fish PER YEAR (depending on whether there are 40 or 120 of them), as well as one or two jobs gone per individual fish.

    There are more rational alternatives when it comes to allocating scarce resources. One such would be spend the scare environmental funding on maintaining national parks in a healthy state, thus preserving suites of animals and plants by way of maintaining ecosystem function.

    What is the scale here? A recent study demonstrated that to truly address the needs of the Maugean Skate, several thousand threatened species and hundreds of ecosystems would cost around a quarter of our GDP.

    Me? I refuse to eat Tasmanian salmon.

    Did I forget to mention that species with extremely small populations which are also limited to highly specialized habitat and which are also limited to a tiny distribution, are almost bound to go extinct, regardless of what we do in the interim, because of global warming?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4283757/

  17. Entropy @ #2817 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:56 pm

    Oakeshott Countrysays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:24 pm
    Entropy @ #2794 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:06 pm

    Oakeshott Countrysays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 3:46 pm
    ===================================================

    You live in Newcastle, don’t you? Are you suggesting that nobody has asked you if you want some coals?

    I was born in Wallsend where there were surface dumps of coal – so if I wanted coal I tended to pick it up.
    I am just having a mental vision of someone buying morphine on the street and taking it into the place with the largest cache of legal narcotics in the suburb and for which they have sole custodianship during a night shift.
    (However, you do need an accomplice if you intend to steal narcotics from the stock without detection)
    ===============================================

    Or, at the very least, a hospital pharmacist whose stocktaking measures are very haphazard.

    Though I suspect you could possibly get away with small amounts if you pocketed some that were meant for chronically ill patients. However, that would mean you were showing a disregard for the pain those patients were suffering.

    Unfortunately the stealing of patient’s drugs happens but far more inventive ways of hiding thefts exist.

  18. Wat Tyler @ #2810 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:41 pm

    C@tmomma @ #2773 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 3:00 pm

    3 Coalition Senators from SA. I want some of what she’s smoking! 😆

    Outside of 2007 and 2013, both featuring Xenophon at the peak of his popularity (and, in the latter case, Labor only won one seat), I can’t think of a half-Senate election in recent history where the Liberal Party hasn’t won three seats.

    And you would consider that a live possibility going into this election considering the state and the form of the Liberal Party in SA right now?

  19. C@t,

    If the situation does turn out to be as the poll says, that makes it a higher chance of this being a 1998-style election where the big swings are contained to seats that can take them, while the marginals are sufficiently sandbagged. Reid, Parramatta, Dunkley, Hasluck and Swan are being listed as Labor holds, and even a big swing to them in Lingiari.

    But nonetheless, One Nation is something of an unknown, possibly very dangerous threat, especially if Pauline is getting money and resources from Big Gina and Big Clive. I’m expecting she’ll run candidates in all 150 seats, all probably announced at the last possible date so there’s less time for people to check their backgrounds.

  20. I find it ‘interesting’ that the threatened species which get championed loudly and often seem to have exotic names. The Maugean Skate being but the latest one. It’s almost as if people wouldn’t be interested in its fate if it was called the Brown Fish, or something like that.

  21. They won three last time merely two months after losing a state election in a landslide. They were already a disorganised rubble back then. And this was when the national tide favoured the Labor Party and disfavoured the Coalition.

    That said, if the Liberal Party, for some reason, fails to win three Senate seats, the third seat will most likely be won by PHON, so hardly a victory.

  22. The Ukraine Leader/boss said he wants Europe to form an army to fight Russia.

    The EU takes months usually to act on anything replies on this in a few hours with-err no.

    What’s he on about the Europeans want USA to fight its wars.Parasites!

    52-48 would be nice for libs in Newspoll.Just sayin…

  23. Kirsdarke @ #2824 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 5:26 pm

    C@t,

    If the situation does turn out to be as the poll says, that makes it a higher chance of this being a 1998-style election where the big swings are contained to seats that can take them, while the marginals are sufficiently sandbagged. Reid, Parramatta, Dunkley, Hasluck and Swan are being listed as Labor holds, and even a big swing to them in Lingiari.

    But nonetheless, One Nation is something of an unknown, possibly very dangerous threat, especially if Pauline is getting money and resources from Big Gina and Big Clive. I’m expecting she’ll run candidates in all 150 seats, all probably announced at the last possible date so there’s less time for people to check their backgrounds.

    Kirsdarke,
    Well, no UAP this time around, so you’re probably on the money (lol), there. Though I have also seen polls, and by-election results, which are indicating a swing back to the major parties. So, at the end of the day, who knows? One thought that keeps niggling away at me is that Pauline’s schtick seems to be becoming a bit tired and shop-soiled and vaguely predictable, so, as we saw recently she is having to go to more extreme lengths to get noticed. Which did not turn out well for her. So, she may end up with candidates in all 150 seats but will the wheels come off in the campaign? I know of one high quality candidate who could have run for her where I am and they have refused, so, as you say, at the end of the day will people want to vote for a Dodgy Bros candidate?

  24. Wat Tyler @ #2826 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 5:27 pm

    They won three last time merely two months after losing a state election in a landslide. They were already a disorganised rubble back then. And this was when the national tide favoured the Labor Party and disfavoured the Coalition.

    That said, if the Liberal Party, for some reason, fails to win three Senate seats, the third seat will most likely be won by PHON, so hardly a victory.

    So, what makes them so attractive to South Aussie voters?

  25. Oakeshott Countrysays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 5:19 pm
    Entropy @ #2817 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 4:56 pm

    Oakeshott Countrysays:
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    Unfortunately the stealing of patient’s drugs happens but far more inventive ways of hiding thefts exist.
    =========================================================

    I suspect so and understand it is not something we should elaborate on. However, in nearly all cases, stealing patients’ medicine would result in an underdose and not an overdose. In the case of morphine, it would make your life more painful, but it would actually make no difference to your actual health.


  26. C@tmommasays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 3:32 pm
    Ven @ #2753 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 3:13 pm


    Centresays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 3:03 pm
    Ahh Ven is another to jump the sinking ship – priceless, I love it.

    You read it first

    No. I did not jump the sinking ship. In December, I predicted that LNP will win that doesn’t mean I jumped the”sinking ship”.

    Ven, would you like to explain where the 21 seats that the Coalition needs to ‘win’, and by that do you mean ‘win’ majority government, are going to come from?

    C@tmomma
    As per Scott, if LNP gets. 43% PV, then they will get majority seats. As per the 1002 sample poll of 20 seats, they got 43% PV. So extrapolating above, LNP will get at least 11 seats to maximum of 20 seats of those 20 seats. If ALP loose 11 seats, they will drop to 67 seats(78-11) and LNP will be on 66 seats(55+11) excluding Independents(whose seats are not included in this sample.) From there, anymore lose of seats will lead to at least LNP minority government.

  27. Kirsdarkesays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:38 pm
    I’ve been taking a closer look at the YouGov MRP poll today and something that stands out to me is large swings against Labor in its safe Adelaide seats, such as -9.7 in Kingston, -7.8 in Spence, -7.4 in Makin, -6.6 in Hindmarsh and -6.2 in Adelaide.

    ———————————-

    South Australians have had a long history of fighting radioactive waste dumps. And being successful.

    So for many in the Adelaide suburbs this selection of Osborne naval shipyard for AUKUS radioactive waste may not be acceptable.

    ‘The Osborne naval shipyard, 25km north of Adelaide CBD, and HMAS Stirling at Garden Island 50km south of Perth in Western Australia, have both been designated as “radioactive waste management facilities” for nuclear waste from Aukus submarines under the Australian naval nuclear power safety bill, which passed …18 Nov 2024
    https://www.theguardian.com
    Plan to dispose of nuclear waste from Aukus submarines unanimously rejected by Adelaide council – The Guardian’.

    Labor Health Minister Mark Butler has told his community there is no difference between medical nuclear waste and this AUKUS submarine waste.

    However Medical people disagree: Medical Association for Prevention of War (Australia)
    https://www.mapw.org.au
    Government continues to misrepresent nuclear waste
    19 Nov 2024 —‘ Federal Health Minister Mark Butler has repeated false claims that waste from nuclear submarines is “no different” from waste produced by nuclear medicine.

    This is not correct. The vast majority of nuclear waste from hospitals is very short-lived waste (VSLW) or very low level waste (VLLW), both of which go to normal rubbish streams after a month or two.

    The proposed submarine waste is low level waste (LLW), which needs isolation from the environment for 300 years.’

  28. davidwhsays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 5:35 pm
    So Tanya was misguided in trying to protect the Maugean Skate?

    Tanya seems to have no ministerial authority. She’s been humiliated.

  29. C@tmomma @ #2831 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 5:06 pm

    Wat Tyler @ #2826 Sunday, February 16th, 2025 – 5:27 pm

    They won three last time merely two months after losing a state election in a landslide. They were already a disorganised rubble back then. And this was when the national tide favoured the Labor Party and disfavoured the Coalition.

    That said, if the Liberal Party, for some reason, fails to win three Senate seats, the third seat will most likely be won by PHON, so hardly a victory.

    So, what makes them so attractive to South Aussie voters?

    Nothing. That’s not how the Senate works. To get three Senators, you need a Senate primary vote at least somewhere in the low-mid 30s and a reasonable preference flow (at least enough to have your nose ahead after exclusions and exhaustions.)

    In the last election, the contest for the final seat was between the third Liberal Party candidate and PHON. It reflected preference for the Liberal Party over PHON more than a love for the Liberal Party or the candidate in question.

  30. Rex Douglassays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 5:30 pm
    In the name of Albo, we must let go of the Maugean Skate, apparently.
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    If you are relying on Dutton to save it instead, the word “delusional” does come to mind.

  31. Rex Douglassays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 5:30 pm
    In the name of Albo, we must let go of the Maugean Skate, apparently.

    ______________________

    You can keep Albo’s head if you really want it.

    Just some of us are upset that while progressives are effectively telling suburban and rural communities to “learn to code”, the conservatives are on track to win the next election because they promised jobs and prosperity (which they’ll never deliver, but who cares about that).

  32. Nadia (and Watt Tyler)

    Thanks for your well written and thought out Senate summaries, which I have just been reading.

    On SA though, I disagree with Nadia and agree at least partly with Watt Tyler. SA is in better shape than most other states for Labor and Malinauskus is doing a good job. But there is little or no evidence Albo is popular here. Decisions like AUKUS have benefited Canberra and Perth, not Adelaide.

    The SA state Libs are a basket case and I doubt they will win 3 Senate seats. However that does not mean Labor (expect 2) or Greens (expect 1) will gain the extra spot.

    In the last SA state election PHON did indeed gain much of the depressed Liberal vote and gained a spot in the SA upper house.

    The sixth spot in the Federal SA Senate race will be tight between multiple candidates including Labor no.3, PHON, and independent (Rex P). I can’t see the SA Libs picking it up but that does not mean it will go to a progressive party.

    As for Sturt my own hopes are declining. I have not seen Labor do much campaigning here since Christmas. The Greens candidate is more visible.

  33. Geez Labor doing deals on refugees with Nauru and stopping foreign investment in housing for a while both announced today what does it mean ?

    Adopting opposition “racist policies”.

    Means internal polling must be an absolute f—- ing disaster for fed labor.

    Another 10k sacked today on top of 75k going in USA that’s 3% of the total public service gone.

  34. If you go looking for actual published papers for the Maugean Skate you find out it was identified in 1988, there are papers estimating populations, but I could not find anything published on why fish farming is a risk.

    There seem to be a letter stating there is a risk, but no reviewed publications to read? Where did it all come from?

  35. I see that Malinauskas has opened up the chequebook for Greg Norman to redevelop Nth Adelaide golf course for Liv golf from 2027.
    Sth Aus killing it with major events. Well done !


  36. Scottsays:
    Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 4:01 pm
    Nadia

    The 16.6% swing against Labor party primary in the Werribee by-election can be ignored to a certain extent

    Liberal party primary vote 29%, only an improvement by 3.7% on the state election result
    Labor primary vote was 28.9% , close to equal with the liberal party

    The liberal party is not getting the majority of non lib/nats to swing to them , and 2pp

    Scott
    Because both parties got around 29% and the final 2PP is a difference of about 600 votes, Labor got about 1000 votes more from rest of the candidates for 2PP.

  37. Bizzcan @ 3:18pm

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/feb/16/labor-to-ban-overseas-buyers-from-buying-existing-homes-for-at-least-two-years-replicating-coalition-policy

    “Took labor long enough – now to take the initiative and go hard on net overseas migration numbers. 125k NOM or under should be the target, unappealing to Dutton and his slave-wage offering backers.”
    ————————————————————
    Banning foreign buyers of residential property is the norm in many OECD countries. Australia should have banned foreign buyers years ago. They only benefit real estate agents and speculators.

  38. Unfortunately the stealing of patient’s drugs happens but far more inventive ways of hiding thefts exist.

    Does anyone else think it’s odd that this nurse didn’t arrange to go to the hospital to clear out his locker himself? He asked a colleague to do it instead. Why would he do that if he knew he had a vial of morphine in his locker?

    If he stole a vial of morphine, why would he even keep it in his locker at work? If he intended to use it recreationally, wouldn’t he take it home? If he intended to use it to kill a patient – which seems really dumb because a coroner would identify the cause of death – wouldn’t he keep it at home until he intended to use it?

    The circumstances don’t make sense.

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