Nine Newspapers yesterday had Resolve Strategic’s quarterly state breakdowns, combined from their past three monthly polls. These aren’t news with respect to the three largest states, results for which are provided with each poll. That leaves fresh results for Western Australia, which show Labor on 30% (up one on last quarter, down from 36.8% at the 2022 election), the Coalition on 37% (up two, up from 34.8%), the Greens on 12% (down four, down from 12.5%) and One Nation 5% (steady, up from 4.0%). and South Australia, which show Labor on 27% (down one on last quarter, down from 34.5% at the election), the Coalition on 34% (down two, down from 35.5%), the Greens on 12% (down two, down from 12.8%) and One Nation on 8% (up two, up from 4.8%). The combined sample for the poll was 4831, with surveying conducted between October 1 and December 8.
Also published on Sunday were familiarity and net likeability results for 34 politicians from the most recent monthly survey. These seem to have elicited rote responses for most of the lower-ranking government ministers, eight of whom scored between between 41% and 55% on name recognition and between minus one and minus five on net likeability. Coalition politicians in the same name recognition range did better, ranging from even to plus seven.
The most instructive results were for those with familiarity scores of 70% and upwards, peaking at 98% for Anthony Albanese (minus 17 on net likeability) and 95% for Peter Dutton (even). Jacinta Price was the most favoured major party politician with 71% familiarity and plus 8 net likeability, though David Pocock and a number of Liberals did only slightly less well with much lower familiarity scores. Labor’s best performer was Penny Wong with 89% familiarity and plus 2 on net likeability. The worst result for a major party politician was Barnaby Joyce with 90% familiarity and minus 22 net likeability.
Jacqui Lambie tops the list, with 80% familiarity and plus 14 net likeability. David Pocock and Zali Steggall’s results were respectively good and mediocre, but otherwise non-major party politicians did poorly, Adam Bandt, Sarah Hanson-Young, Bob Katter and Fatima Payman all landing between minus 11 and minus 17. Worst-rated of all was Lidia Thorpe, whose recent activities have succeeded to the extent of scoring her 73% familiarity, with a net rating of minus 41 presumably demonstrating one point or another.
UPDATE: Further results have been published for age broken down into three cohorts. For 18-to-34, Labor is on 33% (up two from last quarter, steady on what was presumably the pre-election Resolve Strategic poll), the Coalition 27% (up two on both counts), the Greens 23% (down four, down two). For 35-to-54, Labor is on 30% (up two and down four), the Coalition 34% (down two and up two) and the Greens 12% (steady on both counts). For 55-plus, Labor is on 25% (down two and down eight), the Coalition 50% (up three and up four) and the Greens 4% (steady and down one).
A variation on this is I’m going to a NYE party this afternoon, we’re all watching the 9pm fireworks then we’re going home to bed. To be momentarily awoken at midnight by more fireworks in Gosford. 🙂
When did the Greens say that they support Hamas ?
goll @ #50 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 10:23 am
Or
By 2040 we will be using more gas than we are now to meet the 10% of electricity that can’t be provided by wind and solar, while the rest of the developed world is meeting this with SMR.
Or
the field is developing so rapidly that no predictions can be made with any certainty
Batteries and pumped hydro for firming. Don’t need nuclear. Don’t need fossil fuels.
Just say no to the fossil fuel cartel.
Joe Rogan was unavailable apparently….
Peter Dutton is making a confession.
“I’m not sure whether you’re the right company for me to disclose this,” the federal opposition leader jokes.
“But I can’t dive.”
Dutton is speaking on the “Diving Deep” podcast with Sam Fricker, an Olympic diver-turned social media star with 5.8 million YouTube subscribers and 2 million TikTok followers.
The alternative prime minister rarely subjects himself to one-on-one interviews outside his old weekly 2GB slot with the now-retired Ray Hadley and odd spot on Sky News.
Yet here he is chatting for over an hour with a political outsider, opening up on topics ranging from relationship break-ups, shedding 5kg in the week of his failed 2018 leadership tilt, to nuclear energy and the prospect of dealing with the incoming Trump administration.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/dec/31/peter-dutton-the-latest-politician-to-seek-popularity-boost-by-podcast
I note that the court has upheld the sexual abuse and defamation verdicts against the incoming US President.
Rex Douglas says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 10:30 am
When did the Greens say that they support Hamas ?
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The Greens do not support Hamas. Condemning Israel’s genocide is not supporting Hamas. Some Labor bludgers here often lie. As do LNP ones. As do many in the media.
From The Greens web page:
‘The Australian Greens condemn the killings of civilians in Gaza, The West Bank, Lebanon and Israel. No civilian should be the target of the violence of war. For there to be peace there must be an end to the State of Israel’s illegal occupation of the Palestinian territories and it’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.
To achieve peace the Australian and global community must work together to bring to an end the occupation of the Palestinian territories and humanitarian catastrophe unfolding in Gaza. ‘
Unfortunately the Albanese Labor government is increasing spending on weapons, the military, giving parts of Australia, are tied to a deal to become American property if war breaks out, such as land near Darwin for a big US weapons build up, to the USA.
Also has the Stirling Naval Base, Garden Island, near Rockingham, Perth, where US nuclear submarines will dock been gifted too?
All this, taxpayers money badly spent on AUKUS, when past Australian Defence Force Chief Admiral (ret) Chris Barrie says global warming is the biggest threat to Australia. Not China.
As do scientists.
And from ex PM Paul Keating: The military control of Australia – Pearls and Irritations
https://johnmenadue.com/best-of-2024-the-military-control-of-australia/
‘The Albanese government with their policy is likely to turn Australia into the 51st state of the United States, writes former Prime Minister of Australia, Paul Keating.
A repost from Aug, 09, 2024
Introduction: Defence Minister Richard Marles and Foreign Minister Penny Wong have been in the US for talks with the Secretaries of Defence and State this week. Australia has pledged to increase the frequency of American troops rotating through the country…’
Labor are traitors to this country.
sprocket_says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 10:44 am
Joe Rogan was unavailable apparently….
Peter Dutton is making a confession.
“I’m not sure whether you’re the right company for me to disclose this,” the federal opposition leader jokes.
“But I can’t dive.”
Dutton is speaking on the “Diving Deep” podcast with Sam Fricker, an Olympic diver-turned social media star with 5.8 million YouTube subscribers and 2 million TikTok followers.
The alternative prime minister rarely subjects himself to one-on-one interviews outside his old weekly 2GB slot with the now-retired Ray Hadley and odd spot on Sky News.
Yet here he is chatting for over an hour with a political outsider, opening up on topics ranging from relationship break-ups, shedding 5kg in the week of his failed 2018 leadership tilt, to nuclear energy and the prospect of dealing with the incoming Trump administration.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/dec/31/peter-dutton-the-latest-politician-to-seek-popularity-boost-by-podcast
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And yet Bill Shorten speaking to friendlyjordies was portrayed as some unforgivable extremism (even if I do only agree with about 50% of what FJ says).
Rex Douglas @ #54 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 10:41 am
Apparently from today’s C@t feed, Snowy 2.0 is a good thing because Albo is bringing it home, BUT there are other major pumped hydro plans and little future investment for big batteries.
Last time I looked the present government’s plan was to meet the 10% by using more gas than we are currently using (admittedly with nil coal or oil)
Pied Piper at 8.59am, Trump won’t be ramping up anything except payments to his rape victims.
Between Irene and pied piper, one would think Albo is simultaneously taking direct instructions from the CIA while “personally servicing” Xi Jinping.
The man must be a diplomatic genius.
Oakeshott Country @ #59 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 10:58 am
I meant no other planned major pumped hydro schemes .
Is it time to reconsider damming the Franklin?
Oakeshott Country
That’s the extent of the certainty but things are a changing.
And I suppose the polling reflects that change.
For lots of reasons I’ve complete confidence in the technological changes needed.
Gas will price itself out the market while countries continue to be prepared to pay top money for Australian.
Those same countries are developing systems to replace gas and coal. They are not going nuclear.
Technology advances suggests gas will not be needed for 10% backup.
Batteries will do the backup job.
The biggest change worldwide from all the technology stuff happening is the “world order” will in all likelihood change.
That could be a worry!
goll @ #63 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 11:07 am
The Americans both government and private seem to be putting a lot of money into developing a technology that you consider obsolete.
The ALP and the L/NP were sold to the fossil fuel cartel years ago.
Just say no to the fossil fuel cartel.
Vote Teal or Green instead. It’s the right thing to do.
Oakeshott Country
That’s a rather “nuclear” thought !
Neither Labor or the LNP will take that on and certainly not the minors.
Tasmania has enough electricity already.
And besides why would a Tasmanian government give further help in destroying its most valuable asset?
Snowy 2.0 was the right thing to do.
Its construction just wasn’t properly planned.
Snake Chalmers getting a well-deserved pasting for his crypto brain-fart …
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/commentisfree/2024/dec/31/if-crypto-is-incorporated-into-australias-financial-system-we-will-be-lucky-to-avoid-contagious-collapse
The “Lucky Country” seems determined to push it’s luck beyond rational limits.
Oakeshott Country,
That’s not overly accurate
The development of the SMR have been given seed money, but no new reactors have been planned.
Texas has become the solar capital of the USA.
Oil, particularly shake oil resources have been subsidized but really to counter the middle east pre-eminence.
Cars trucks trains and planes are all going electric.
The economics of energy will hobble the grand plans of private conglomerates.
They have already divested away from coal wherever possible.
Rex Douglassays:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 11:20 am
Rex, that’s just brain explosion on your part.
Five years ago, a memo out of China changed the world forever
Five years after the start of the COVID-19 pandemic in Wuhan, the World Health Organisation (WHO) has urged China to share data on the virus’s origins.
COVID-19 sent shockwaves across the world, triggering numerous lockdowns, mandates, and restrictions, with Melbourne becoming the most locked-down city globally.
People became divided and the world changed forever.
Over the past five years, an estimated 777 million cases of Covid-19 have been recorded, with approximately 11.9 million of those cases occurring in Australia.
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/five-years-ago-a-memo-out-of-china-changed-the-world-forever/ar-AA1wIM2d?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=4a5d01d575b54790be325ebc692d4b6a&ei=31
Rex Douglassays:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 11:15 am
I believe you’ve mentioned this a few times before and it remains wrong relative to both government policy direction and common sense.
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2024/12/2024-site-review.html
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goll at 10.23 am
“Looks like the Teals will hold the balance of power in the reps after the next election.”
Yes, but more because of existing MPs returned than additional ones. List of 13 new target seats at:
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/climate-200-s-plan-for-a-second-teal-wave-20241217-p5kyys
Only Bradfield and Cowper in NSW and possibly Wannon in Vic look realistic prospects or possibilities.
Note that about 40% of Dan Tehan’s margin in Wannon in 2022 comprised dunderhead Labor voters who preferred him to a well-regarded, youthful, Warrnambool-based independent, Alex Dyson.
https://www.alexdysonindependent.com/
Note that when you talk about the balance of power the Teals are not a caucus. Labor are unlikely to need all of them, just some, but they might see more influence in acting together.
‘Irene says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 10:49 am
Rex Douglas says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 10:30 am
When did the Greens say that they support Hamas ?
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The Greens do not support Hamas. Condemning Israel’s genocide is not supporting Hamas. …’
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It is, of course, far more nuanced that this simplistic binary. What we need to look at is the pattern of the Greens’ behaviours, not the specific wording of an individual text or two.
Criticize Israel’s genocidal behaviours and its land grabs by all means
The Greens have spent close to zero energy condemning Iran Plus for their genocidal vision statements and for Hamas, Heshbollah, Iranian client organizations, the Houthis AND Iran ALL initiating armed conflict against Israel.
IMO most of the criticisms of Israel’s war fighting in Gaza are justified.
However, criticizing these WITHOUT criticizing Hamas’ behavriours of using schools, hospitals, mosques and residential dwellings as fighting positions, places of retreat, munition stores and missile launching pads is obviously one-sided.
In the general context of war fighting, criticizing one side while being silent about the other side invites the accusation of giving comfort to the side not criticized.
There is very close to zero balance in Greens’ critiques of the Forever War. De facto this could reasonably be interpreted as supporting Hamas.
What is true of the Greens is, of course, just as true of the Liberals and Nationals.
So, instead of damping down, the Greens, Liberals and Nationals are inflaming the situation and are, beyond a shadow of doubt, helping to feed communalist tensions and destructive behaviours.
There is a simple test for the Greens: When was the last time, if ever, the Greens directly criticized Hamas, Heshbollah, the Houthis and/or Iran for the disastrous civilian consequences of their refusal to engage in constructive peace negotiations?
The DG ASIO doubtless had all this in mind with his repeated public interventions when he called on people to behave with some common sense.
‘Dr Doolittle says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 11:48 am
goll at 10.23 am
“Looks like the Teals will hold the balance of power in the reps after the next election.”
Yes, but more because of existing MPs returned than additional ones. List of 13 new target seats at:
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/climate-200-s-plan-for-a-second-teal-wave-20241217-p5kyys
Only Bradfield and Cowper in NSW and possibly Wannon in Vic look realistic prospects or possibilities.
Note that about 40% of Dan Tehan’s margin in Wannon in 2022 comprised dunderhead Labor voters who preferred him to a well-regarded, youthful, Warrnambool-based independent, Alex Dyson.
https://www.alexdysonindependent.com/
Note that when you talk about the balance of power the Teals are not a caucus. Labor are unlikely to need all of them, just some, but they might see more influence in acting together.’
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Pocock, the Greens and to a lesser extent Lambie have shown varying signs of working together in the Senate. They are fortunate that Babet does not hold the casting BOP in the Senate and Katter does not hold the BOP in the House. Trolls never talk about a Babet/Katter BOP…
With the swing to the right evidenced in the polling it is more, rather than less, likely that a right person like Babet will hold the Senate BOP.
IMO, the potential spread in the House – even amongst just the Teals – is more fractured and deeper.
Dutton is gutless when it comes to torch-to-the-belly interviews:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/dec/31/peter-dutton-the-latest-politician-to-seek-popularity-boost-by-podcast
Dr D
From yesterday’s discussion of the Soviet Union.
My understanding is that the Union referendum was overwhelmingly supported (in a very real example of Gorbachev’s democratisation) with the Baltic states and most of Georgia, Moldova and Armenia not taking part.
This was the step too far for the hard liners with the August coup occurring the day before the treaty was to be signed. This had been predicted by Eduard Shevardnadze. You argued that this was all too late to save the union but how much of the precipitous actions by Yeltsin and Kravchuk to set up the CIS were designed as the easiest way to get rid of Gorbi – basically by taking away the country he controlled. I appreciate that the August coup really meant the end of Gorbi bur he was hanging on as President of the Soviet Union.
Hmmm West spends about a trillion on artificial intelligence and China copies it and spends only under 6 million.This is a BIG story AI valuations could plummet!
Chinese start-up DeepSeek launches AI model that outperforms Meta, OpenAI products
South China Morning Post
Fri, December 27, 2024 at 5:30 PM GMT+83 min read
Chinese start-up DeepSeek’s release of a new large language model (LLM) has made waves in the global artificial intelligence (AI) industry, as benchmark tests showed that it outperformed rival models from the likes of Meta Platforms and ChatGPT creator OpenAI.
The Hangzhou-based company said in a WeChat post on Thursday that its namesake LLM, DeepSeek V3, comes with 671 billion parameters and trained in around two months at a cost of US$5.58 million, using significantly fewer computing resources than models developed by bigger tech firms.
gollsays: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 11:16 am
…”Tasmania has enough electricity already.”
Tasmania does not.
Current Tas generation, 778 MW, current Tas demand 1,223 MW.
Tasmania has to import electricity from interstate to meet what little demand it has.
https://reneweconomy.com.au/nem-watch/
OC and Frednk
Re SMRs in USA:
“ Fascinating – best case 1st SMR on grid within 4-5 years but more likely 2031
A reasoned decision on nuclear energy is essential for Australia but instead we are reduced to arguing about Blinky the three eyed fish.”
Thanks for the video link which was interesting. Good to see more technically feasible SMR concepts now being developed. I have no ideological objection to nuclear power. If it can be made to work affordably, great.
Note though from the video that both projects were selected for development in 2022 and design work for the competition had started in 2020. So then to 2032 is a 12 year time to get power from:them, assuming nothing goes wrong.
The cost so far is also uncompetitive. Each is costing $3B US ($5B Aus) budget price without cost overrun. That is for a small 100-200Mw reactor. A typical coal plant of 1GW would then cost $25B to $50b Aus each to replace. That assumes no cost overrun. The average cost overrun for nuclear power projects is over 100%. So it is still far dearer than coal, which in turn is now dearer than much cheaper renewable power.
But for USA’s sake, I hope it succeeds.
‘pied piper says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 12:05 pm
Hmmm West spends about a trillion on artificial intelligence and China copies it and spends only under 6 million.This is a BIG story AI valuations could plummet!
Chinese start-up DeepSeek launches AI model that outperforms Meta, OpenAI products
South China Morning Post
Fri, December 27, 2024 at 5:30 PM GMT+83 min read
Chinese start-up DeepSeek’s release of a new large language model (LLM) has made waves in the global artificial intelligence (AI) industry, as benchmark tests showed that it outperformed rival models from the likes of Meta Platforms and ChatGPT creator OpenAI.
The Hangzhou-based company said in a WeChat post on Thursday that its namesake LLM, DeepSeek V3, comes with 671 billion parameters and trained in around two months at a cost of US$5.58 million, using significantly fewer computing resources than models developed by bigger tech firms.’
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Oh, look! Pied Piper uncritically shares China Inc propaganda.
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Architecture MoE MoE Dense Dense – –
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English MMLU (EM) 88.5 80.6 85.3 88.6 88.3 87.2
MMLU-Redux (EM) 89.1 80.3 85.6 86.2 88.9 88.0
MMLU-Pro (EM) 75.9 66.2 71.6 73.3 78.0 72.6
DROP (3-shot F1) 91.6 87.8 76.7 88.7 88.3 83.7
IF-Eval (Prompt Strict) 86.1 80.6 84.1 86.0 86.5 84.3
GPQA-Diamond (Pass@1) 59.1 41.3 49.0 51.1 65.0 49.9
SimpleQA (Correct) 24.9 10.2 9.1 17.1 28.4 38.2
FRAMES (Acc.) 73.3 65.4 69.8 70.0 72.5 80.5
LongBench v2 (Acc.) 48.7 35.4 39.4 36.1 41.0 48.1
Code HumanEval-Mul (Pass@1) 82.6 77.4 77.3 77.2 81.7 80.5
LiveCodeBench (Pass@1-COT) 40.5 29.2 31.1 28.4 36.3 33.4
LiveCodeBench (Pass@1) 37.6 28.4 28.7 30.1 32.8 34.2
Codeforces (Percentile) 51.6 35.6 24.8 25.3 20.3 23.6
SWE Verified (Resolved) 42.0 22.6 23.8 24.5 50.8 38.8
Aider-Edit (Acc.) 79.7 71.6 65.4 63.9 84.2 72.9
Aider-Polyglot (Acc.) 49.6 18.2 7.6 5.8 45.3 16.0
Math AIME 2024 (Pass@1) 39.2 16.7 23.3 23.3 16.0 9.3
MATH-500 (EM) 90.2 74.7 80.0 73.8 78.3 74.6
CNMO 2024 (Pass@1) 43.2 10.8 15.9 6.8 13.1 10.8
Chinese CLUEWSC (EM) 90.9 90.4 91.4 84.7 85.4 87.9
C-Eval (EM) 86.5 79.5 86.1 61.5 76.7 76.0
C-SimpleQA (Correct) 64.1 54.1 48.4 50.4 51.3 59.3
Also Crypto a scam.Blockchain and quantum and hydrogen had billions put in not lived up to hype!
Socrates says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 12:19 pm
OC and Frednk
Re SMRs in USA:
“ Fascinating – best case 1st SMR on grid within 4-5 years but more likely 2031
A reasoned decision on nuclear energy is essential for Australia but instead we are reduced to arguing about Blinky the three eyed fish.”
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There is a bit of three eyed fish going about.
However MOST of the focus of the debate around nuclear power has been created by Dutton’s Nuclear Plan: easier than shooting fish in a barrel.
Has anyone heard any real detail on what Jim Chalmers is actually talking about RE crypto?
I can see how blockchain as a technology may have some applications to the financial and related systems, but if he’s seriously suggesting adoption of any actual cryptocurrencies for use by government, or allowing banks and super funds to hold them as assets……. Aukus is bad enough, but any government that willingly gets involved in the crypto scam or gives up its powers of monetary sovereignty is not fit for office.
Hi all. A Happy new one to all. 🙂
Have offspring staying and subjecting me to various youtubes. Some very funny.
Friendly Jordies (who sometimes gives me the shits) had a good one though. Someone leaked the video taken in nov 24 at a gathering of prominent miners and their political sycophants from the RW in the Pilbara.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM-kInpa-CQ
Jordies commentary is sometimes a bit over the top, but mainly not bad and amusing. I think Gina secretly wants to have Trumps babies …… 🙁 Very sad that such outright stupid and self interested scumbags are so influential in our politics. Seems to me that supporting the left and center left side of politics is actually getting more important in terms of avoiding the poisonous corporate dystopia this lot want.
But, in some ways worth a laugh as an alternative to tears. 🙂 Best wishes to all, hope 2025 is a good one for all (except the RW bots, you lot can wallow in your own rot 🙁 ) and many thanks to our esteemed host William for putting up with us all.
goll @ #66 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 11:16 am
How many tourists go to the Gordon above Franklin or do you mean an intangible asset?
(at least the Orange Bellied parrot didn’t have to find somewhere else to breed)
sprocket_ @ #54 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 10:44 am
Not an original thought in his head. Just following the Trump playbook.
“Fascinating – best case 1st SMR on grid within 4-5 years but more likely 2031”
Yah ….. and then a few years of real world operational experience needed to see whether or not they actually perform reliably to spec. Interesting, quite possibly with useful applications in specific circumstances and locations ….. but not something we would want to bet the house on at the moment, and not something that will save the Potato’s nuclear “plan”.
Pageboi
Andrew Charlton is the crypto lobbyist within the Fed Labor partyroom.
It stinks.
Oakeshott Country says Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 10:34 am
You need some form of firming power for that 10%. That’s not something you would use SMRs for.
Pageboi @ #84 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 12:26 pm
Considering that the biggest economy in the world is going to go full bore into crypto I think it’s prudent for Australia to have a policy to deal with it and the likely economic disruption Trump, Musk and the Crypto Bros will cause.
Rex Douglas @ #89 Tuesday, December 31st, 2024 – 12:36 pm
Are you really that out of touch, Rex Douglas, that you do not see the crypto tsunami approaching from overseas? Australia needs to deal with it or be overwhelmed by it.
The finishing touches being made to the Westgate tunnel project in Melbourne’s west the next few months. Should make a huge difference for commuters when opened next yr.
Rex Douglas says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 12:36 pm
Pageboi
Andrew Charlton is the crypto lobbyist within the Fed Labor partyroom.
It stinks.
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Well you did ask for detail Pageboi. Rex has provided his level of detail 🙂
Fargo61says:
Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 12:16 pm
gollsays: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 at 11:16 am
…”Tasmania has enough electricity already.”
The fact that electricity is coming from outside the island is not necessarily a bad thing.
Just depends on the source of the foreign electricity.
Tasmania has the potential to provide enough electricity from existing sources, from the potential of solar and wind sources, from more roof-top and from batteries.
I’m not up with the policy direction from the Liberal government in Tasmania regarding increasing home grown electricity in Tasmania but maintain that both damming the Franklin and installing a SMR are both unnecessary.
I would suggest that hat Tasmania’s future will entail a fair portion of its unspoilt, isolated geographic position as an attraction in itself.
They are many other industry positive from a whole range of possibilities.
Wind energy in and around Tasmania would seem to be the untapped source of renewable energy.
Maybe a change of state government in Tasmania is needed.
Technology will take care of the supposedly risk of the need for firming.
Firming is a thing but it’s mainly a political thing at the moment!
OC: you deserve to be forced to watch Blinky memes 24/7 for your risible ‘nuclear for Australia needs a reasoned discussion’ bullshit.
Blinky is what the nuclear ‘debate’ deserves, because on any reasoned analysis it’s just a babushka doll of bullshit.
Too late.
Too expensive.
Is not compatible with a renewables based grid – to the extent that the coal-ition needs the renewables roll out to half least nuclear would be completely economically unviable, even on their fudged costings (which also needs electricity demand to be one third less than what has been projected for 2050, with the consequent contraction in economic growth over that period).
And so on.
THERE: that’s the end of your ‘reasoned discussion’. So you now get Blinky memes. On high rotation.
Grifters grift…
SMR are still in the experimental phase with mostly negative evaluation.
They are never going to happen in Australia with or without Dutton’s contribution.