Following a week in which abortion unexpectedly took centre stage of the Queensland election campaign, The Australian’s Feeding the Chooks column reports the issue “has helped Labor’s cause in Brisbane, where it faces losses to the LNP and the Greens”. The evidence for this would appear to be Labor internal polling suggesting Grace Grace is well placed to retain the Greens target of McConnel, outpolling them 27% to 24% with the LNP on 34%. This is quite a bit different from polling the column published from a different source last week, which had the Greens on 37.9%, the LNP on 27.4% and Labor on 27.2%. A “senior Labor insider” is further quoted saying a party that feared a near wipeout regionally, leaving it only with Gladstone outside of Brisbane, now sees “glimmers of hope in Cairns, Rockhampton and Maryborough”.
The other big event for the week was the closure of nominations and ballot paper draws, revealing a decline in the total number of candidates to 525 (5.6%) from 597 (6.4%) in 2020. A breakdown from Antony Green shows Labor, the LNP, the Greens and One Nation are contesting all seats, Family First is putting in its biggest effort in some time with 59 candidates, with lesser numbers from Legalise Cannabis, Katter’s Australian Party, Animal Justice and the Libertarians.
Also of note: the website Australian Election Forecasts, operating off an admittedly shallow pool of data, calculates an 85.8% chance the LNP will have a “clear path to government” compared with 4.4% for Labor, the median predicted outcome being 55 seats for the LNP, 29 for Labor, three each for the Greens and Katter’s Australian Party and one independent.
davidwhsays:
Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 6:46 pm
Re that McConnel poll showing an 8% reduction in Labor primary and only 1% increase in LNP with most of the increase showing going to others, it’s possible the LNP has picked up more of the Labor loss but lost votes to others.
I doubt the position is 60/40 now. If anything Labor has an edge in the campaign period and has likely picked up a little. I still expect a comfortable LNP win in 2 weeks though.
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mj provided the Hanson primary in 2020, earlier today – 1.4%.
It’s beyond belief that the Hanson & fringe right vote would go from 1.4% to 17% in inner Brisbane.
There are only 5 candidates in McConnel – two from the left and 3 from the right.
I agree with the earlier posters who canvassed this today. This poll is bullshit. WB also alludes to it in his intro where he references another more “credible” poll.
The only way that loose 15% in the McConnel numbers could be credible is if most of it were categorised as uncommitted.
I think i’m remembering The Rights of the Terminally Ill (Euthanasia Laws Repeal) Bill 2008, but I can’t find anything to back that up other than Fielding’s Statement
https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Legal_and_Constitutional_Affairs/Completed_inquiries/2008-10/terminally_ill/report/d06
which indicates he wasn’t voting for it.
Will keep searching to find out how he did vote.
BT, I couldn’t understand your earlier post. That’s all.
Maybe my bad.
Heard a rumour that onp.are really trots
Pauline was recruited by Harold Holt from his secret sub.
paul Asays:
Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 8:18 pm
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Thanks, paul A.
Well, the Narrative is the Katter Party is a conservative Party and I reject that on the basis of what it’s done.
KAP’s announcement that they’re preferencing LNP over Labor
, shortly followed by an announcement that they’ll introduce a Private Members Bill to repeal Abortion laws, 3 weeks out from an Election, looks like treachery to me.
The Abortion was passed in 2018, they’ve had 6 years to put up a Private Members Bill, not a dicky bird.
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Let’s say they did put up such a Bill in the new Parliament:
1. Crisafulli can’t deny his MLAs a Conscience vote, so it will have NP support and some LP support.
2. What will Labor do?
Well, as a self described Liberal/Conservative fellow traveler, you would know that Labor will do whatever is politically convenient and have a self serving, mealy mouthed justification for doing so.
So, you can’t automatically assume that Labor would vote the Bill down.
For evidence, see Labor’s dance of the 7 veils on SSM.
They were fer it in the Howard years, agin it during the RGR Governments, for it again during the Abbott Government, resentful when Turnbull solved the issue.
Under ministerial solidarity won’t the LNP ministers, assuming the LNP win the election, be required to follow LNP policy? If the LNP policy on abortion is no change surely there would be sufficient support to vote the bill down.
How big is the win going to be?
If LNP win 70 seats and Katter gets 3, 43 backbenchers are needed, which probably aren’t there
But what happens if Labor allows a conscience vote?
It’s perhaps the greatest wedge ever, Crisafulli can’t put the acid on Labor without looking weak, can’t disavow Katter without looking a fool, can’t guarantee that a Private Members Bill wouldn’t be passed and can’t rule out a Conscience Vote because there’d be a rebellion in the National Party.
Still 13 days to go, I wouldn’t think Abortion is a big issue one way or another, but Brisbaneites have it pretty easy, if this fed into a perception that the NP part of the LNP are going to crack down hard on Brisbane there might be 2nd thoughts.
Badthinker there will be no second thoughts. It will be a LNP landslide Queensland’s have been on their lathes making Baseball(Cricket) Bats and starting tomorrow will be swinging them on Labor.
Does anyone know if there will be a state-based poll this week? Being the beginning of pre-poll, it’ll be interesting if there is any change. These new announcements by Labor may resonate with many esp with COL being the main issue. A personally believe the youth crime issue is a media beat up and the solution by the LNP is farcical. It wont solve the problem – but rather, it will make matters worse.
The youth committing the crimes are often from broken homes (family units), did poor at school, were bullied / are the bully (trauma etc) and are now bored (unemployed / not in tafe or school). These are some of the causes that need to be addressed – which is substantially more than just a 4 word slogan from Crisafulli ‘Adult Crime, Adult Time’… What garbage. And if the polls are correct – the ‘smart’ people of Townsville (and elsewhere) will have a worse situation in 4 years.
I sort of agree with you Damo.
That gov’t sounds like it is well and truly finished. There has been desperate stunts with 50 cent fares, and rebates. ie: Where is the money coming from, and what projects are set aside elsewhere to discount rail fares for SEQld. This is not how to run a state. It’s desperation.
Now we have an “abortion” scare. It’s all desperation from a desperate gov’t desperate to hang on.
Probably a good warning of what Dutts can expect from “sinking” Labor in the next Federal election.
I loved seeing that 51-49 LNP on newspoll tonight.
Amjid says:
Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 11:16 pm
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We should have a YouGov state based poll this week, and hopefully Newspoll may drop a poll on election eve.
paul Asays:
Sunday, October 13, 2024 at 11:22 pm
I sort of agree with you Damo.
That gov’t sounds like it is well and truly finished. There has been desperate stunts with 50 cent fares, and rebates. ie: Where is the money coming from, and what projects are set aside elsewhere to discount rail fares for SEQld. This is not how to run a state. It’s desperation.
Now we have an “abortion” scare. It’s all desperation from a desperate gov’t desperate to hang on.
Probably a good warning of what Dutts can expect from “sinking” Labor in the next Federal election.
I loved seeing that 51-49 LNP on newspoll tonight.
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In respect of the Cost of Living measures, Labor have stated they will be funded from increased taxes on the greedy mining companies. The equally desperate LNP have announced that they will match the Cost of Living measures but will also cancel the increased mining taxes. So it is the LNP that has questions to answer; How will they fund the Cost of Living measures? Back to the “Can Do” formula perhaps? They don’t change their spots do they!
As for the Abortion scare campaign, that was all their own doing, nothing to do with Labor. The Katters announced they would introduce a private member’s bill restricting abortions. Then some LNP mps and candidates announced they would support the bill, putting Christafilli in an embarrassing bind. Par for the course for the LNP rabble in Qld. How could you let them back into government?
“e.g.w.says:
Monday, October 14, 2024 at 12:29 am”
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Agreed – the Abortion ‘scare’ is all the LNPs fault. Also, from my knowledge the LNP have only committed to the 50c fares, which we know will be cut after 100 days because they’ll say its not sustainable. We also know the mining companies will pay less royalties and then we’ll also be paying significantly more in rego, electricity and get less services. They LNP already said there would be less beds – esp in the regional areas (the ones contemplating voting LNP). But sure – lets elect an LNP Govt which has the same people as the Can-Do days… As the old sayin’ goes – a Leopard doesnt change its spots… so prepare for deep cuts and mass sackings!
The “abortion” scare is not the LNP’s fault.
Chrisafulli has said he won’t change the laws currently in place.
The abortion “scare” has been generated by a desperate ALP, who are now panicking about the loss of both Clown Miles and Fentiman’s seats. It’s known as sandbagging. Check up thread from the posters earlier today.
Qld is morphing into the “Alabama” of Australia, like it or lump it. OPV to be implemented by the incoming Chrisafulli gov’t (he’s even announced it pre-election), should preserve a long term LNP gov’t until the Greens and Labor can sort themselves out. In the meantime – let the Greens and Labor fight it out.
Eventually either the Greens or Labor will command control of the “left” in Australia, but whilst they slug it out, the LNP can rule. Remember Machiavelli. If you want to rule your enemies, create conflict amongst them. This is what the LNP will do to Labor & the Greens once in power.
PS – If you don’t like where QLD is heading, you are always welcome to move to NSW, SA or Victoria.
“The “abortion” scare is not the LNP’s fault.
Chrisafulli has said he won’t change the laws currently in place.
The abortion “scare” has been generated by a desperate ALP”
@paul A
Paul instead of just defaulting to your anti-Labor bullshit get your facts right. The abortion controversy started when KAP said they planned to introduce a bill to repeal the legislation. LNP response is ‘it’s not part of our plan’. But what they won’t say if they will allow a conscience vote from their Mp’s to vote on it. Since only 3 of their Mp’s voted for decriminalising abortion originally. And since canidates in Springwood, Oodgeroo, Redcliffe, and Rockhampton have also expressed strong views against abortion. It’s a worthwhile question asking because they may have the potential to get the bill passed from the composition of the parliament.
“OPV to be implemented by the incoming Chrisafulli gov’t (he’s even announced it pre-election), should preserve a long term LNP gov’t”
They had OPV last time LNP were in government. They also had 78 seat majority and only lasted one term. If a week’s a long time in parliament then four years is a eternity.
In terms of democracy and informed choices I think it would be entirely legitimate for every Qld poll candidate to be asked what their opinion is on abortion. Judging from the religious background of several they are likely to be anti, but lack the courage of their convictions to say so.
Besides, at least that is a substantial issue to debate, unlike the youth crime beat up. That has been a furphy since the days of ancient Athens. Crime rates are lower now than in earlier decades.
“ I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words…”
Hesiod, 8th century BC.
The reality is plenty of violent crimials under the age of 17 in Qld are Sociopaths and Psychopaths.
Whether they came from a dysfunctional broken home or their old man was a Stockbroker is irrelevant to their condition, which is incurable since Capital Punishmet was abolished.
A commenter named B said yesterday they had the top secret inside gen on Labor polling. B said the Labor insider had told them that it’s all over red rover and that ALP supporters are clutching at straws with the abortion issue. They reckoned this issue was not moving the dial much other than in the Grace Graces seat, that the polling is 60-40 and the guy reporting on green shoots in Rocky and Cairns was just trying to keep the chin up of ALP supporters in the face of a hopeless situation. It’s interesting that B would get access to this info which is at odds with what is presented in Mr Bowes story and that according to B the insider would trust them with this highly confidential info that is being kept from the actual candidates but there you have it. I would say the Murdoch courier will have some sort of polling this weekend followed by an election eve poll, if B is right and not just an LNP mischief maker the ALP will be in for a tough night on Saturday week.
Hoping for a state based YouGov too prince P.
Yes, I bumped into “B” yesterday. Interesting chat.
How long is it since criminals under 17 years old were executed Badthinker?
OPV keeps rearing it’s head on the QLD threads.
The proponents of it believe it will “force Labor & the Greens to fight it out”, I gather on the basis that the Green vote has risen since the 2015 election (it sort of has from 8.1% to roughly 12% today, but most likely higher in inner areas).
Most on the senior posters on this site say it won’t make a jot of difference, I assume on the basis that Labor and Greens voter’s are fairly disciplined or possibly that the Greens vote in QLD is no threat to Labor.
To settle this issue, can someone explain pls whether OPV is of benefit or of no benefit to the majors, or in this case to the LNP. In QLD it was announced by Chrisafulli a couple of weeks ago, and has barely made a headline since. So I gather it’s a complete non-issue. Is this correct?
Sports Bet have Cairns as even money – and Cook with a slight advantage to Labor. As for McConnel & Cooper, the Greens are currently favourites.
No one has put money on Waterford as yet and from what I can see, Murumba (Miles seat) still shows ALP, but LNP is gaining ground.
Yeah Nadia interesting post by B. Usually someone mentioning inside polling have to be taken with some salt. I remember someone on here saying in 2019 that Labor would storm home in many Brisbane seats because a Labor insider had said so- didn’t happen. More to the point though OPV certainly assists the Brisbane council. They are pretty moderate though so Brisbane people are fairly comfortable with them. I’m not sure if you were here in 2012 but some of the LNPs highlights were a fruitless fight against lawless bikies where a bright idea was dressing them in pink, a fight with the judiciary, a fight with doctors and nurses which almost resulted in mass resignations but did result in one LNP member quitting the party and wanting to run for Labor also a fight with the public service resulting in mass layoffs and no pay rises for three years. If they take up where they left off in 2015 OPV won’t save them but if they follow the council lead it might work well for them. With the state LNP dominated by more extreme regional and religious people than the council we will see what happens especially on things like abortion laws and assisted dying and we also know assets sales are a stinker in Qld. All the best
I don’t think swings of 10% plus are an “it’s time” phenomenon, which is largely what the analysis to date has been pointing at . I think 10% swings are typically associated more with a “government that lost its way” narrative. With the 2012 election there was a series of major scandals that lead to a predictable loss of faith in the ALP and subsequent huge swings, 2015 was chaotic leadership with a radical, ideological agenda which the public didn’t buy. But there’s nothing similar this time around. Is it just cost of living? How does state government manage cost of living? Is it just a confused public lashing out at encumbants?
Personally, I think it much more than that, but I’m interested to hear what people think will be the narrative of the election in the media post-election.
Opv helps the party or candidate who polls the most votes. In a landslide election it helps the winner. In nsw it has definitely helped the coalition in the 3 elections prior to the last.
Who it helps varies from election to election. In a close seat opv can cause more votes to exhaust and make it difficult to win from behind.
In one election the libs polled most primary votes 2% more than Labor. 12% primary votes were left of centre and should have favoured Labor. But due to the exhaustion of a lot of votes Labor lost narrowly. In Queensland with potentially big votes for kap and onp this could harm the coalition in some cases
Re abortion
All parties must and will allow a conscience vote.
Mick Q
“ Re abortion
All parties must and will allow a conscience vote.”
This makes getting all candidates to state their own position on abortion before the election all the more important.
@socrates
Any politician should be willing to explain where they stand on abortion.
The LNP members have already shown their cards on reproductive rights which is why it’s a toxic issue for them. Only three voted with the ALP one of whom – Jan Stuckey has left parliament after making non specific claims of bullying . She has apparently registered her fears for reproductive rights being proscribed under an incoming LNP regime in last week’s Australian. The rest would presumably vote to strike down these laws if a private members bill was put forward. Interesting times ahead for Q.
Thanks Mick at 1.02PM
In the media Peter Beattie and Gary Bullock have said Annastacia Palaszczuk should have handed over to Steven Miles sooner. Beattie seems at odds with Palaszczuk, while Bullock was instrumental in tapping Palaszczuk on the shoulder and wants to defend his decision.
I know there is a view from some Palaszczuk could of saved more seats if she stayed. But Palaszczuk going for a fourth term would have accelerated the time for a change factor.
To be fair changing to Miles made sense. Jay Weatherill, Morris Iemma, and Anna Bligh all squeezed out a extra term for Labor with a leadership change. Admittedly though Beattie would have won in 2009 if he stayed. Bligh was left with a 22 seat buffer when he left.
Hi Nightwatchman,
AP was good for the state, and she was regarded well outside of Brisbane.
I think she could’ve got a fourth election win under her belt. Labor needs to win the regions in QLD to get a comfortable majority, and she had done it 3 times.
Miles is regarded as a bit silly, especially in the regions. In fact, outside of Brisbane, I don’t think he actually rates.
So, I’m probably in the camp where AP could’ve at least saved a few seats, if not won.
She was backgrounded badly when she went overseas last year, and that was the point the rot set in.
You can see on bludgertrack where the polls nose dived, beginning with that 22% YouGov ALP primary on Dec.5, 2023, which is around the time of the changeover.
I think AP was a good sort.
The backgrounding hurt her with the women’s vote in Brisbane, that’s what did her in. It’s probably a good time for Labor to lose, recent history is the LNP only lasts a term anyway.
Look at the last 95 years since Labor lost in 1929, they’ve been out for 3 years, 32 years, 2 years & 3 years.
Sure, there’s that 32 years, but Labor committed suicide in 1957 by expelling the entire Cabinet bench plus anyone else who had a brain, for very murky reasons.
And don’t bother squawking about Catholics, they were all Catholics.
On Beattie, Kevin Rudd had recently been appointed Labor leader by Ol’ Rupe, Beattie seemed to have something against Rudd, and he announced that Greg Rudd couldn’t act as a lobbyist
anymore because it would be seen to be a conflict of interest.
Bill Ludwig sprang into action and Beattie was soon an ex Premier.
At least, that’s how I remember it playing out in the papers.
In the absence of polling evidence to the contrary, I’m starting to wonder if Labour might have edged up from 2PP 45% to 48%, and in with a shout of winning.
Seems like they’ve had a better campaign, and they weren’t starting from 40%.
LNP better make sure their supporters believe it’s close or they might get a shock (in a few seats at least).
High time there was another (reputable) poll.
My gut feeling is the ALP TPP is still around 44-45%. I am not sure that people are paying attention.
I think party lines are so blurred for most Queenslanders that the significance of the abortion subject will not even be recognised outside of political followers and inner Brisbane seats. So many young people have had little exposure to Queensland conservatives meaning they are probably in for a bit of a rude surprise when they realise that they are, well, rather conservative.
Anyway, my latest numbers suggest 24 ALP, 60 LNP, 4 Katter, 4 Green, 1 independent.
Bring on new polling, though.
Nadia : I was a big fan of AP, she won me over and her appeal across the state and how she stitched together majorities was incredible. She kept proving everyone wrong. But I think the medias campaign against her was successful in taking away her desire to keep going. Compare this with the medias all out defence of Gladys in Sydney. I would have loved her to hang on but I think that being hunted down on a well earned holiday like she was a criminal was the last straw for her. Miles may or may not end up losing big time ( I can’t see how he can win) but AP did nominate him as her successor. I wish her all the best and think she was one of the best Premiers we’ve had.
From my perch afar, AP always seemed a bit ‘stodgy’ and perhaps lacking in ambition for the state economically. Although quite confident and assured, maybe even formidable, as a politician.
I may be quite wrong.
BT: I certainly agree that Labor has had the better campaign and I also think Labor’s ads have way more impact. For example I watch a lot of YouTube and Labor is targetting me in my suburb with ads featuring our local member. I am also getting a LNP ads telling me not to vote for someone in another electorate because of ,wait for it ,out of control crime. The LNPs one note crime and punishment ads are starting wear thin. Maybe Bogan is right and no one other than those engaged are paying attention. We will see when the next poll comes out, likely this week. If it’s still 57-43 or worse well thats game over and Bogans estimate of 24 will be correct. If there has been any sort of reasonable improvement for ALP it would mean nervous times for Bleijie and Crisifulli and the LNP faithful.
BT: Queensland is a diverse place, APs homespun appeal bridged the gap between city, region and country. She was certainly more cautious than Miles and seemed to worry about what our Murdoch newspaper said ( pointless as courier always supports LNP) but a good and popular leader who increased her majority at each election.
If Labor lost 52/48 they could either win or govern in minority
Princeplanet
Noted, thanks.
We’re all clutching at thin air without a poll. I guess it’s just hard to see at this point why public opinion would have moved more towards LNP since the last polls, but in addition to the possibility of moving towards Labor it’s also perfectly possible that they haven’t significantly moved at all.
Mick
“If Labor lost 52/48 they could either win or govern in minority”
Really? Is that just how the spread of safe vs. marginal seats is in Queensland, that Labor would (most likely) still be the largest party on a 48-52% ?
@BT Says
Put simply, yes.
As a start, Queensland has a lot of diverse regions. So divisions are vulnerable to swing all over the place based on local specifics.
It’s possible to build a slightly credible case that LNP’s chances are shaky even at 55-45 TPP in their favour due to the lopsided ways votes can be regionally distributed throughout Queensland.
LNP hold a good chunk of their TPP vote across the rural divisions, and with wide margins. So there is a situation where LNP can hold over a dozen seats of over 20% margin. This delivers them a solid base on state-wide TPP and a modest amount of starting seats. Labor conversely only typically hold a few divisions with such a wide margin, giving them a smaller starting base on state-wide TPP. But then Labor go onto pick up each of the urban divisions, not by a lot, but enough. More than half of the divisions are in South East Queensland by the way. In this corner, you have lots of these close contests in geographically small divisions. These deliver Labor pretty modest numbers on state-wide TPP but a reliable stream of seats. And seats are the name of the game. Campbell Newman was one of the rare cases where LNP (initially) had the slight-edge throughout SEQ, thus translating into blowout seat tally.
So imagine this exaggerated scenario as a thought experiment:
– LNP on 70% TPP outside of SE QLD.
– ALP on 51% TPP in SE QLD (just pretend every seat in SE QLD ends up 51-49).
You will end up with a terrible looking state-wide TPP for Labor, something like 44-56 (with some rudimentary napkin math), but a victory for Labor when they sweep all the contests they need (only just).
But obviously it is a lot more nuanced this and South East Queensland is not a monolith and has disparate regions on its own. Outside of SEQ there are disparate provincial cities and towns hundreds of kilometres apart with unique communities of interest.
The bookies have Labor winning 21 seats with a further 7 close. That’s pretty much in line with the known polling. Nothing BIG had happened to materially change the situation indicated by polling to date.
SEQ Observer
Thanks, that’s interesting.
Would the rural electorates be somewhat smaller than SEQ bigger urban centres, thus acting as a slight counterpoint to the point you make?
Or not.
I cannot see a path to 48 seats for Labor even last year when things weren’t so bad in the polls. But conversely the fact that the polls are so bad for Labor gives them an underdogs appeal. My feeling is that Miles is going well and has thrown caution to the wind, he looks energetic and positive. Crisifulli looks worried and his adverts are not hitting the spot. Crisifulli’s one trick pony crime and punishment campaign is looking brittle and also sets him up for a tough time in government. The usual LNP friendly sources like Murdoch courier mail and Mr Stokes at seven will very likely stress the improvements in crime but horrible crimes like the one that affected the LNP candidate who’s on all the ads will keep on happening and Facebook mums will keep on highlighting them. Bad thinker thinks this might be a good one to lose maybe he’s right I’m only hoping it’s not a wipeout for ALP. If the LNPs total is in the high 50s we are in for a weird four years.
If Labor can get about 30-35 seats, I think it’ll be a good result. The LNP need 13 for victory and there are 13 Labor seats with margins of 5% or less. If there is a 10% swing (as suggested), then another 10 or seats go. However as we know Qld is very diverse and rarely is the swing uniform. Labor could hold on to many of their SEQ Seats… and maybe even Cairns for that matter.
Amjid: I don’t think the betting markets mean all that much but Cairns is even money and Cook has Labor firm favourite. Don’t know why but Labor are favourite in Maryborough also in Rocky. If they can keep a handful of seats in these regions- say five and hang on the lions share in SEQ which is possible they could achieve 35 or even higher. I am writing off all Townsville seats due to the ” youth crime”. I know it’s pie in the sky but Labor in the high thirties could mean LNP minority rule with an unruly cross bench. We know from those Rob Borbridge/Joan Sheldon ( known as Darby and Joan) days that the LNP is not good at these type of arrangements.
Unfortunately the collapse in Labor vote is also in the outer suburbs. The Ipswich West by-election showed that – and it’s up in the air if that will return to the fold at the general election despite having a massive margin at the previous election. There’s also that Waterford poll allegedly showing a 13% TPP swing. The outer suburbs are angry about cost of living and youth rime; the regions more the other way around.
Maryborough is interesting. Did not the Newman Government shaft their train manufacturing industry and now it’s back? I do not know Maryborough so well. Clearly Bundy and Hervey Bay are toast. Cook depends on how the communities etc are holding up; hard for me to guess. I would have thought Cairns and Barron River gone. All Townsville clearly gone. Mulgrave has a long, long way to fall but Curtis Pitt was extremely well known and retiring.
I do not see a path through for Labor. I hope they can preserve the furniture. I suspect there are seats at play that should never, ever be in play in both the outer suburbs and regions. Rocky is a good example of a seat that should never be in play 🙁
I certainly will not like the outcome – don’t bleed blue – but interesting election…