Friday miscellany: redistributions and preselections (open thread)

New South Wales federal boundaries confirmed, post-redistribution musical chairs for the Victorian Liberals, and contenders like up for the Labor preselections to replace Bill Shorten and Brendan O’Connor.

It’s been a busy week on Poll Bludger, which a new thread on the US election joining posts on state polls in Victoria, Western Australia and Queensland. Meanwhile at federal level:

• The federal redistribution for New South Wales has been finalised, with only very minor adjustments made to the boundaries proposed in June, none of which affect my calculations of the new margins by more than 0.1%. Certainly there has been no revision to the abolition of North Sydney, held by teal independent Kylea Tink. The only redistribution process still in train is that for the Northern Territory, charged with drawing a new boundary between its two seats of Solomon and Lingiari, for which a proposal should be published shortly.

• The Liberal candidate for the crucial Melbourne seat of Chisholm will be Katie Allen, who was the member for Higgins from 2019 until her defeat by Labor’s Michelle Ananda-Rajah in 2022. Allen was endorsed on the weekend by the state party’s administrative committee, which was charged with ratifying local party preselection processes that were conducted before new boundaries revealed that Higgins, for which Allen had again won endorsement, was to be abolished. The decision came at the expense of Monash councillor Theo Zographos, who was last year preselected unopposed for Chisholm.

Ronald Mizen of the Financial Review reports the looming preselections for the Melbourne seats of Maribyrnong and Gorton, respectively to be vacated with the retirements of Bill Shorten and Brendan O’Connor, will be shaped by a long-standing agreement that the Left will take Gorton from the Right when O’Connor retires, while the Left will take “the next safe Right seat that becomes available”. The matter will be determined by the party’s national executive, which has again taken over the federal preselection process from the Victorian branch. Maribyrnong is considered likely to go to Jo Briskey, national co-ordinator of the Left faction United Workers Union, although The Age reports she “could face a challenge from Moonee Valley mayor Pierce Tyson”.

• In Gorton, the Labor preselection appears to be developing into a contest between Alice Jordan-Baird, a climate change and water policy expert, and Ranka Rasic, the mayor of Brimbank. The two candidates are back by rival sub-factions of the Right, the former with that of Richard Marles and the Transport Workers Union, the latter with Bill Shorten and the Australian Workers Union. James Massola of The Age reports the matter could be decided by a third Right union, the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association, supporting Rasic and the AWU in the interests of checking the rising power of the TWU.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Merely an observation that one polie that recieves alot of… colorful comments from people here runs a weekly food kitchen from his office, and the other, the supposed champion of the underclass… is benefiting greatly during a cost of living crisis by virtue of upholding the status quo.

    Simply a contrast in optics i suppose 🙂

    Besides, Albos about to role over on the EPA (contrary to comments made by the environment minister this week) for the LNP, so that should certainly be interesting…

  2. Socrates:
    For the record I made clear yesterday I do not support those who are protesting at the Land Warfare exhibition. They are a violent rabble
    Who pays them?
    The Arms Industry?
    No, too obvious.

    If they weren’t protesting against defense they would be at an anti-vax protest.
    Not even remotely the same people, as you probably know.
    Last time I looked at Greens policies, they were in favor of all Vaccines, no exemptions.

  3. Socrates @ #50 Friday, September 13th, 2024 – 9:43 am

    Cat

    Despite those AUKUS “announcables” there isn’t a single job in sub construction in Adelaide now and there won’t be for ten years. All the money has gone to Perth for political reasons.

    Oh dear. Announceables in emotive quotation marks. 🙄

    Here’s a novel thought you probably haven’t considered, maybe WA needed funding before SA could get theirs. But hey, conspiracy theories are conveniently injected into the blood of politics these days. And cynically.

    And no jobs in SA for 10 years, eh? You need to update your Anti AUKUS propaganda, Socrates:

    Details
    Australia’s SSN-AUKUS submarines will be built in Adelaide, South Australia.

    Enabling works will begin in 2023 at the future submarine construction yard in Osborne. The yard will be almost 3 times larger than the yard forecast for the Attack Class program.

    Over the forward estimates, it is estimated $6 billion will be invested in the Australian industry and workforce, with at least $2 billion in the South Australian infrastructure alone.

    At the peak, up to 4,000 workers will be employed to design and build the infrastructure for the submarine construction yard in Osborne.

    A further 4,000-5,500 direct jobs are expected to be created to build the nuclear-powered submarines in South Australia, when the program reaches its peak in 20-30 years’ time. This is almost double the workforce forecast for the Attack Class program.

    The Commonwealth and South Australian Governments are working together through the Commonwealth South Australian Defence Industry Workforce and Skills Taskforce, to ensure Defence projects in South Australia will have a highly skilled workforce to draw on.

    Workforce development has already started, including expansion of the Sovereign Shipbuilding Talent Pool. This will leverage the existing local and experienced submarine industrial workforce in South Australia.

    Enabling works, starting in 2023, will include above and in-ground utility relocation, construction of a new access road and other supporting infrastructure.

    https://www.asa.gov.au/aukus/construction-south-australia

  4. Lordbainsays:
    Merely an observation that one polie that recieves alot of… colorful comments from people here runs a weekly food kitchen from his office, …
    Stones Corner is a long way from Struggle Street, the office is a stand alone ground floor office building , and Mild Max is a first class asshat.
    Guessing that the Commonwealth signs 10 year leases with landlords, it was Butler’s office too since 2014/15.

  5. Cat

    “ Enabling works will begin in 2023 at the future submarine construction yard in Osborne. The yard will be almost 3 times larger than the yard forecast for the Attack Class program.”

    See if you can find a reference to that work actually starting.
    And building a shipyard is not the same as building a ship or sub.
    Different tasks, different people.

  6. Socrates @ #56 Friday, September 13th, 2024 – 9:58 am

    Cat

    “ Enabling works will begin in 2023 at the future submarine construction yard in Osborne. The yard will be almost 3 times larger than the yard forecast for the Attack Class program.”

    See if you can find a reference to that work actually starting.
    And building a shipyard is not the same as building a ship or sub.
    Different tasks, different people.

    Splitting hairs is beneath you I would have thought, Socrates. Especially as you, of all people, should understand that the shipyard needs to be built before the subs. Also the roads and other infrastructure. So, what’s your argument now? They’re not ‘real’ jobs? 🙄

    Well, as far as that’s concerned, the training for those jobs has begun. Is that not good enough for you? Don’t bother answering, because of course it won’t be as that would mean you would have to acknowledge your inability to correctly point out the timeline as logical.

  7. Thought Coffee was safe from Green madness?
    Think again:
    https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/08/28/1096751/prefer-coffee-upcycling-fermentation/
    This startup is making coffee without coffee beans

    Singapore-based Prefer Coffee is using fermentation to upcycle food waste and make coffee-like drinks.
    It turns out that our beloved cup of joe may not be sustainable the way it’s produced now. Rising temperatures, droughts, floods, typhoons, and new diseases are endangering coffee crops. A 2022 study published in the journal PLOS One expects a general decline in land suitable for growing coffee by 2050. Modern coffee production involves clearing forests and uses a lot of water (as well as fertilizers and pesticides). It also consumes a lot of energy, generates greenhouse-gas emissions, and ruins native ecosystems. The situation “presents an existential crisis for the global coffee industry,” says Tan—and for all those who love their morning wake-up shot.

    In other words, the gastronomic future under our soon to be Green overlords is junk food.

  8. yabba:

    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 8:58 am

    [‘What makes you think he didn’t murder people prior to his dubious ‘valour’?’]

    Roberts-Smith was awarded the VC during his 2012 tour of duty in Afghanistan. Besanko, J found that between 2006 & 2012, four murder allegations were essentially true based on the civil onus. In short, until & if he’s found criminally guilty, he would not forfeit his VC. And until the appeals process is exhausted, voluntarily handing back his VC would be tantamount to an admission of guilt in the court of public opinion though it wouldn’t have any substantive legal implications.

  9. Preliminary enabling works required to support the future construction of the NPSCY at Osborne commenced in December 2023 with site mobilisations and early works for a new carpark.
    See if you can find a reference to that work actually starting.

    Constructing the infrastructure at the NPSCY will rely on highly-skilled Australian engineering and design consultants, project controls specialists, project managers, tradespeople and construction workers.

    In partnership with the South Australian Government, the Albanese Government is also designing and building the new Skills and Training Academy at Osborne to educate and train the elite naval shipbuilding workforce.

    This announcement is part of the Albanese Government’s $53-63 billion investment in this program over the next decade, including an estimated $2 billion investment in South Australian infrastructure in just the next few years.

    https://www.asa.gov.au/aukus/construction-south-australia

    Next. 😐

  10. Herald Sun 13/09
    Grahame McCulloch, the head of the academics’ union who was appointed just weeks ago to take over the Victorian CFMEU, has abruptly resigned.
    Mr McCulloch, a former communist, was appointed last month to run the branch after the Albanese Government passed laws placing the union’s construction divisions into administration.
    _____________________
    All a bit too hard for him.
    I doubt he was getting the support of the Allan govt he thought he was going to get.
    Over to you Jacinta.
    Please not Graham Ashton.

  11. Despite being narrated by a puppet this video on problems with the US Navy’s Constellation Class frigate program is very accurate. Similar problems exist within Australian Defense following most of the internal engineering and science positions within DSTG being cut by the Liberals in the 2010s. This is why USN and RAN have trouble building ships.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ntS-sUZqg

    Arguably theUK is even worse off. People can draw their own conclusions on our chances of getting SSN AUKUS subs.

  12. UK Cartoons and other miscellany

    Rod Emmerson

    Andy Davey

    Guy Venables

    Ben Jennings

    Bish

    Peter Schrank

    Morten Morland

    Trevor Irvin

    Banx

    Mark Parisi

    Private Eye

    Wayno

    Mellor

    Bill Whitehead

    Blake

    Xkcd

    ==========================================

    Stolen from the internet

    Meanwhile in Chicago

  13. Development Proposal submission xyz entitled ‘Eco Resort, Lady Elliott Island’

    The proposal is for a 100 bedroom resort with airstrip and boat landing facilities. Construction details are in Appendix A.

    Purpose. Minister you are required under the EPBC Act amendment Act 2024 to consider climate impact as one of the triggers. This brief provides detailed analyses of CO2 emissions for your consideration.

    Background

    The proposal requires the clearing of around 150 trees. The proposal includes a suggested an existing land offset for these 150 trees. Net result: less CO2 sequestered.

    Construction materials. Approximately half the construction materials come from China. There they were manufactured using Australian coal. This requires x tons of CO2 in the mining and transport to China, the CO2 emissions in construction and then the CO2 emissions in transporting the construction materials to Australia. All transport was by ICE vehicles. Net result: large CO2 emissions into the atmosphere.

    Food miles. The ecoresort has no immediate farming hinterland. All food is currently grown using ICE machinery and farming inputs almost totally reliant on ICE machinery and fossil feedstocks. Transport of farm inputs and food products is almost entirely by ICE machines. Large regular ongoing CO2 emissions into the environment.

    Estimated bed nights can be broken down into international and domestic. International tourists will travel by flight miles. These involve the construction of airports, airplanes, terminals as well as the fule for airplanes. Large regular ongoing CO2 emissions into the environment. While domestic arrivals will achieve some level of using renewable energy to arrive at Lady Elliott, the last leg will be air travel. (The proposal does not limit arrivals to carbon neutrals.) Large, regular ongoing CO2 emissions into the environment.

    Fittings, equipment and the like. Most of this is constructed in China and transported to Australia. Significant CO2 emissions. The proposal states that they will be low energy rated and that the energy will be sourced from island-based renewables.

    Energy at the resort will be provided by solar panels and wind turbines. The solar panels are to be sourced entirely from China. Coal used in the manufacturing process equals more carbon emissions.

    The proponents failed to provide exact CO2 emissions budget for their proposal. Our calculations have been itemized for each component.

    The proposal fails to address the methane consequences of human and kitchen waste disposal.

    The proposal fails to address hydrological impacts include on depleted water tables and or on local salinity levels consequent to the desalinization plant.

    A separate brief (ref abc) has been forwarded on impacts on World Heritage Values.

    Recommendation. That the Minister rejects the application on the grounds that it will contribute significantly to global warming.

    The Minister is reminded that the proposal is within the distribution of xyz endangered listed species and would result is some habitat destruction. See Section B

    The windfarm will have an impact on birds nest in the island rookeries. This has implications for the Government’s commitments to various international Agreements and Treaties. See Section C.

    Covering note from Secretary of the Department.

    Minister, you have requested that I advise you on the likely public reaction to this proposal.

    The public response to this proposal is likely to be vigorous. Climate activists oppose all developments that involve a net increase in CO2 emissions.

    The development is likely to have a cumulative impact that would make the Government’s target of 43/30 more difficult to achieve. This will be pointed out by climate critics.

    Similar wind farm developments have been vigorously opposed by both the Greens Party and the Coalition Parties.

    Peak biodiversity advocacy groups concerned with endangered species are likely to mount a public campaign against this proposal.

    The sensitivity of the proposal is heightened because the proposed development is in a World Heritage Area. A separate briefing ref abc was provided on the impact on the World Heritage values was forward on x date. It draws particular attention to the impact of Climate Change on the GBR.

  14. Albanese investment house is somewhat a good provision for his older age (and new marriage) and “as common as” amongst the better off.
    You won’t hear anything from Dutton and cohorts (nor the Greens for that matter) about investment properties, shares and various financial affairs, extremely diverse, well hidden and fruitful throughout the political community.
    The Albanese investment house is a “nothing burger”, (an awful expression at best).
    The fact is that, after all the years Albanese has been in Parliament, his interest in a personal portfolio is somewhat limited.

    The less well off have always had a housing crisis in modern Australia, no more exemplified by the massive suburban expansion of fibros, then the ubiquitous brick veneer both now highly ill suited for smart living due to an improved awareness of climate change and new technology and most in need of a “knock down”.
    The housing crisis will be helped by a better use of the land that existing houses occupy.
    The rich will be furious unless they see a personal profit.
    Everyone luvs being a winner in the gambling nation.

    And a different matter:-
    Who allowed this “weapons fest in the first place ? Complete dickheads!

  15. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-12/david-speers-on-social-media-disinformation/

    Always a public broadcaster aka their ABC in ‘fair and balanced’ two sides …, though I suppose at least not gazillionaire social/ the media, I wonder what independent media will make of this.
    They stuff infra, Nbnco (next GAFW – great Australian FW that Conjob/ Conrort tried- makes a return, digital ids, social credit scores …, aspirational in a Luddite way) rather than competition, and now services, rather than gambling …
    What’s next switching off terrestrial/ satellite wireless after and before [private] school hours, so that “we” are all safe?
    Someone should print out a JWS Research update with salient issues, or even Essential direction of country, get a highlighter out and post it to the PM …
    Not that I doubt that those even further to the right of centre aren’t total Luddites.

  16. ‘goll says:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 10:58 am

    Albanese investment house is somewhat a good provision for his older age (and new marriage) and “as common as” amongst the better off.
    You won’t hear anything from Dutton and cohorts (nor the Greens for that matter) about investment properties, shares and various financial affairs, extremely diverse, well hidden and fruitful throughout the political community.
    The Albanese investment house is a “nothing burger”, (an awful expression at best).
    The fact is that, after all the years Albanese has been in Parliament, his interest in a personal portfolio is somewhat limited.

    The less well off have always had a housing crisis in modern Australia, no more exemplified by the massive suburban expansion of fibros, then the ubiquitous brick veneer both now highly ill suited for smart living due to an improved awareness of climate change and new technology and most in need of a “knock down”.
    The housing crisis will be helped by a better use of the land that existing houses occupy.
    The rich will be furious unless they see a personal profit.
    Everyone luvs being a winner in the gambling nation.

    And a different matter:-
    Who allowed this “weapons fest in the first place ? Complete dickheads!’
    ——————-
    Why?

    The ADF needs weapons. Our defence industries are worth around $7 billion a year.

    If you want to gut the ADF with actual weapons, and you want industries worth $7 billion a year why not have a weapons expo?

    If you want to gut the ADF, as the Greens do then go ahead and tacitly or openly support violent behaviour at an expo.

    If you want the ADF to be armed and if you want to build weapons, by all means have an expo.

    How many Greens were involved in perpetrating the violence?
    How many Greens were at the violence and failed to report criminal behaviour to the police?
    How many of the Greens present were supporters, members, activists, staff or MPs?

    Friar Tuck has questions to answer.

  17. I am confused BW; the Greens are putting forward the climate change trigger, which you claim would basically destroy the ecotourism industry.

    Does that make the Greens right for once?

  18. Badthinkersays:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 9:56 am
    …………………….Stones Corner is a long way from Struggle Street, ………………………………….
    ==============================================================
    As informed and reliable as everything else Badthinker writes.
    Never lets the facts get in the way of a BS post.
    Stones Corner is one of those older close to the CBD areas. Lots of pockets of gentrification around the area and also lots of very much lower socio-economic enclaves. Definitely no shortage of the down and outers who very much appreciate an occasional hand out of a good meal.
    Max Chandler-Mather wrested the seat off Labor (Terry Butler) for the Greens at the last election.
    He does a lot of good work on the ground and is definitely consolidating his hold on the seat.

  19. “And a different matter:-
    Who allowed this “weapons fest in the first place ? Complete dickheads!’”

    Why have expo in in the middle of Melbourne ?
    The expo could have been held anywhere.
    The expo could have been held with the aid of technology.
    To have it in Melbourne was asking for a “shit fight” and it happened

    Yes we do need expos of all types.
    Which genius was responsible for putting the bloody military thing in downtown Melbourne.

  20. European Central Bank rate cut paves way for a US rate cut next week

    By Nadia Daly

    More now on the global rate cutting cycle, which is rapidly gaining pace. Senior Business Correspondent Peter Ryan has been taking a closer look at what’s going on globally.

    Abc business today.

    No rate cuts for Australia thanks to incompetent fed labor government.

    Inflation too high and going nowhere with WA/Qld export economies about to increase inflation given overseas rate cuts.

  21. Luigi Smithsays:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 9:39 am
    One must pay tax at the marginal rate on 50% of a capital gain, after making allowance for legitimate costs and depreciation.

    There are ways to avoid it. If one has owned a property for 15 years or more, tax can be avoided.
    =================================================================

    Please tell me more.

  22. Stones Corner is one of those older close to the CBD areas. Lots of pockets of gentrification around the area and also lots of very much lower socio-economic enclaves.
    3Km. No one walks from one to the other.
    Definitely no shortage of the down and outers who very much appreciate an occasional hand out of a good meal.
    No down and outers. You’re confused, West End/South Brisbane is 3-4 Km away.
    Max Chandler-Mather wrested the seat off Labor (Terry Butler) for the Greens at the last election.
    Terri Butler. It’s a She, not a He, you knew that, right??
    He does a lot of good work on the ground and is definitely consolidating his hold on the seat.
    He’s a pest, Liberals vote will return to 40%+ next time and they’lll win on Labor Preferences.

  23. Seems to me the ABC have switched to getting on board with the political ambulance chasing gotcha chasers of the typically unbalanced RWNJ press. David Speers leading the way. They’ve joined the Greens/Coalition pile on too often lately. Some of it self inflicted {census mess etc,] some of it not so much.

  24. Socrates says:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 9:43 am

    All the money has gone to Perth for political reasons.

    You think we shouldn’t be investing to be able to do the agreed home porting and maintenance of the US and UK Subs?

    No new facilities?

    How was that meant to be paid for?

  25. Luigi Smith says:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 9:39 am

    There are ways to avoid it. If one has owned a property for 15 years or more, tax can be avoided.

    And to spark concern or hope, depending on one’s point of view, one can also avoid the capital gain tax if a property is sold as part of a financial restructuring at the point of retirement.

    Do not take financial advice from this person.

  26. Why would Labor preference the Libs in Griffith and hand them the seat. Again you make no sense Bad boy. Last time Labor gave 82% of their preferences to the Greens.

  27. Lordbain @ #70 Friday, September 13th, 2024 – 11:09 am

    I am confused BW; the Greens are putting forward the climate change trigger, which you claim would basically destroy the ecotourism industry.

    Give the Bore a break. He doesn’t understand the difference between ecotourism and tourism. He still can’t even differentiate tourism from fossil fuels. How on earth do you expect him to understand subtle arguments like this?

  28. @ the truly odious and unctuous Lordbain:

    “ he bought the place for 1.175 million back in 2015, so a nice little profit of 700k plus in just 9 years on top of his rentals on top of his parliamentary gig.”

    _______

    A quick google search indicates that – as of the middle of last year – FOUR Greens Senators each owned 3 or 4 properties:

    “ The biggest property owners are Greens Treasury spokesman Nick McKim (four), deputy leader Mehreen Faruqi (four) and first-term Queensland MP Elizabeth Watson-Brown (three), while the spouse of justice spokesman David Shoebridge owns three investment properties.”

    I wonder how much their total property investment portfolios increased in value over the past 9 years?

    Hmmm. We do know that Faruqi stands to net a cool $850K or so from the sale of one investment property sale listed only a couple of months ago:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13610405/Mehreen-Faruqi-Greens-investment-property.html

    Not a bad little earner form an investment originally costing $250K back in 2001. …

    Not that I begrudge any of them their portfolios; but these facts do illustrate that your Albo commentary demonstrates that you are nothing but a low flying grub of a thing.

  29. Mavis @ #59 Friday, September 13th, 2024 – 10:11 am

    yabba:

    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 8:58 am

    [‘What makes you think he didn’t murder people prior to his dubious ‘valour’?’]

    Roberts-Smith was awarded the VC during his 2012 tour of duty in Afghanistan. Besanko, J found that between 2006 & 2012, four murder allegations were essentially true based on the civil onus. In short, until & if he’s found criminally guilty, he would not forfeit his VC. And until the appeals process is exhausted, voluntarily handing back his VC would be tantamount to an admission of guilt in the court of public opinion though it wouldn’t have any substantive legal implications.

    What does the word ‘subsequent’ mean to you. Read your original post.

    “… there is precedent holding that subsequent criminal conduct does not negate the circumstances that gave rise to the award of a medal for valour.”

    I was, perhaps abstrusely, pointing out that this particular, adjudicated, serial killer was found to have done a considerable proportion of his murdering prior to, not subsequent to his, somewhat dubious, display of ‘valour’. I have no doubt that a person of his particular mindset will deny, obfuscate, lie and generally behave as one would expect a psychopath to behave, probably until his death.

  30. gollsays:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 11:41 am
    “And a different matter:-
    Who allowed this “weapons fest in the first place ? Complete dickheads!’”
    Why have expo in in the middle of Melbourne ?
    The expo could have been held anywhere.
    The expo could have been held with the aid of technology.
    To have it in Melbourne was asking for a “shit fight” and it happened.
    _____________________
    Victoria needs the money.
    According to Allan the expo has provided a 70m boost to the Vic economy.

  31. A dozen current and former senior public servants involved in the unlawful robodebt scheme breached their code of conduct, including former department bosses Kathryn Campbell and Renee Leon.
    Sixteen public servants were referred to the public service commissioner for investigation last year, including current employees named in the sealed section of the robodebt royal commission’s final report.
    On Friday morning, the commission reported “12 current and former public servants and former agency heads have been found to have breached the code on 97 occasions”.
    Sanctions have been imposed against four current employees who breached the code, including reprimands, fines and demotions, but the commissioner said a number of others who were referred had since retired or resigned and could not be sanctioned.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-13/kathryn-cambpell-leon-breached-duties-robodebt-public-service/104347500

  32. Sen. Lindsey Graham on Thursday became the latest Republican to denounce Laura Loomer, the far-right influencer seen traveling with former President Donald Trump in recent weeks. Graham, the longtime South Carolina Republican, has both clashed with and aligned himself with the former president in the past. On Thursday, he urged the president to abandon Loomer, who he called “toxic.”
    Loomer has existed on the periphery of the MAGA extended universe for years, but has recently been spotted more frequently with the former president. On Tuesday, she was seen leaving Trump’s private jet when it landed for the debate in Philadelphia. The far-right internet personality, who previously called 9/11 an “inside job,” also accompanied the president to memorials in Manhattan and Pennsylvania on the anniversary of the attacks on Wednesday.
    Graham, for his part, bristled at the inclusion of Loomer in Trump’s entourage during the important slate of events that were all meant to burnish his support among undecided voters.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/lindsey-graham-warns-trump-to-stop-palling-around-with-toxic-laura-loomer

  33. Badthinkersays:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 11:58 am
    Stones Corner is one of those older close to the CBD areas. Lots of pockets of gentrification around the area and also lots of very much lower socio-economic enclaves.
    3Km. No one walks from one to the other.
    ===============================================
    I lived there for 20 years until quite recently. I occasionally did the walk to the CBD as do some other residents. Often I cycled in as do many. Who said anything about walking to the CBD anyway. Many go by bus, 15 min. It’s close!
    …………. No down and outers. You’re confused, West End/South Brisbane is 3-4 Km away.
    =================================================
    You have clearly never been there if you believe that.

    …………………………… Max Chandler-Mather wrested the seat off Labor (Terry Butler) for the Greens at the last election.
    Terri Butler. It’s a She, not a He, you knew that, right?
    ======================================
    Yes, of course I know Terri Butler is a woman; pretty clueless and out of touch as well. That is a big reason why Labor squandered what was a safe seat.
    So, I made a typo, perhaps you will find it in your heart to forgive the error one day.

    …………………. He does a lot of good work on the ground and is definitely consolidating his hold on the seat.
    He’s a pest, Liberals vote will return to 40%+ next time and they’lll win on Labor Preferences.
    =======================================
    As deluded as the rest of your posts.
    Libs have not won the seat in 28 years.
    Will be a Green vs Labor contest for the foreseeable future. Probably trending stronger Green now that they are incumbent.

  34. >Not that I begrudge any of them their portfolios; but these facts do illustrate that your Albo commentary demonstrates that you are nothing but a low flying grub of a thing.

    I recall the Greens being attacked for the exact same thing earlier. Do you say the people who were attacking the Greens for this are just as wrong for the people attacking Albanese for this?

  35. Why would Labor preference the Libs in Griffith and hand them the seat. Again you make no sense Bad boy. Last time Labor gave 82% of their preferences to the Greens.
    Did you miss the recent NT Election results?
    No love lost between Labor and Greens in Griffith, Labor rusties are ropeable.

  36. Re Elmer Fudd @11:58. “Seems to me the ABC have switched to getting on board with the political ambulance chasing gotcha chasers of the typically unbalanced RWNJ press.”

    I think that ABC’s reporting reflects the amount of noise out there, and who’s making the most and the loudest.

  37. AE, could it possibly be that the Greens want to implement legislative changes that would leave them worse of, and Albo is happy with the status quo in direct contrast to his positions in opposition?

    But yeh sure I am simply a grub; I look forward to the next Green pile on while ignoring Labor behaviour, such as the NACC debacle.

    Reminder that the APS investigation being discussed today is the reason why the NACC refused to investigate the individuals referred to it.

    So after 90 plus breaches of the code, there is no penalty, no fine, and hell, they arnt even technically banned from holding a role in the APS, they just need to “inform” the recruitment panel.

    And before everyone goes this was all the Libs, friendly reminder that Labor, aware of the nature of the charges Campbell was facing, put her into a high paying roll in Defence with AUKUS.

  38. For my mind as a Laborite noone should be bagged for having investment properties. It’s really nobody else’s business.
    They get virtually zero scrutinyof their many investments, LNP members get the fine tooth comb for their entire careers.
    Just another example of Labor’s never ending hypocrisy, imo.

  39. Lordbain says:
    Friday, September 13, 2024 at 12:41 pm
    AE, could it possibly be that the Greens want to implement legislative changes that would leave them worse of, and Albo is happy with the status quo in direct contrast to his positions in opposition?

    But yeh sure I am simply a grub; I look forward to the next Green pile on while ignoring Labor behaviour, such as the NACC debacle.

    Reminder that the APS investigation being discussed today is the reason why the NACC refused to investigate the individuals referred to it.

    So after 90 plus breaches of the code, there is no penalty, no fine, and hell, they arnt even technically banned from holding a role in the APS, they just need to “inform” the recruitment panel.

    And before everyone goes this was all the Libs, friendly reminder that Labor, aware of the nature of the charges Campbell was facing, put her into a high paying roll in Defence with AUKUS.

    ________

    Guilty until proved innocent so far as friendly Lordbain is concerned. Actually I don’t even see the latter in the Lordbain approach to jurisprudence 😉

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