It’s been a busy week on Poll Bludger, which a new thread on the US election joining posts on state polls in Victoria, Western Australia and Queensland. Meanwhile at federal level:
• The federal redistribution for New South Wales has been finalised, with only very minor adjustments made to the boundaries proposed in June, none of which affect my calculations of the new margins by more than 0.1%. Certainly there has been no revision to the abolition of North Sydney, held by teal independent Kylea Tink. The only redistribution process still in train is that for the Northern Territory, charged with drawing a new boundary between its two seats of Solomon and Lingiari, for which a proposal should be published shortly.
• The Liberal candidate for the crucial Melbourne seat of Chisholm will be Katie Allen, who was the member for Higgins from 2019 until her defeat by Labor’s Michelle Ananda-Rajah in 2022. Allen was endorsed on the weekend by the state party’s administrative committee, which was charged with ratifying local party preselection processes that were conducted before new boundaries revealed that Higgins, for which Allen had again won endorsement, was to be abolished. The decision came at the expense of Monash councillor Theo Zographos, who was last year preselected unopposed for Chisholm.
• Ronald Mizen of the Financial Review reports the looming preselections for the Melbourne seats of Maribyrnong and Gorton, respectively to be vacated with the retirements of Bill Shorten and Brendan O’Connor, will be shaped by a long-standing agreement that the Left will take Gorton from the Right when O’Connor retires, while the Left will take “the next safe Right seat that becomes available”. The matter will be determined by the party’s national executive, which has again taken over the federal preselection process from the Victorian branch. Maribyrnong is considered likely to go to Jo Briskey, national co-ordinator of the Left faction United Workers Union, although The Age reports she “could face a challenge from Moonee Valley mayor Pierce Tyson”.
• In Gorton, the Labor preselection appears to be developing into a contest between Alice Jordan-Baird, a climate change and water policy expert, and Ranka Rasic, the mayor of Brimbank. The two candidates are back by rival sub-factions of the Right, the former with that of Richard Marles and the Transport Workers Union, the latter with Bill Shorten and the Australian Workers Union. James Massola of The Age reports the matter could be decided by a third Right union, the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association, supporting Rasic and the AWU in the interests of checking the rising power of the TWU.
A million people brought in by federal labor government and ABS shows housing starts have gone backwards.
Morgan poll watch.
steve davis says Monday, September 16, 2024 at 1:51 pm
The problem with letting house prices rise so high is that bringing them back down by any meaningful degree would create significant economic damage and be political suicide.
Greg Rudd says Monday, September 16, 2024 at 1:05 pm
Rupert Murdoch is only 93. He could well have a decade of malevolence left.
Griff seeking after an independent alternative lol. Reminds me of when Steve777 used to pretend he was independent, even he dropped the pretence after a while.
The member for Aston along with some other Labor MPs better dust off their resumes and start job hunting. Albanese had an opportunity to cement these gains but he’s failed miserably and they’ll fall back into Liberal hands.
Griff
If you were once of mind to vote for Reason, you could now never go back to Labor.
Lars Von Trier says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 5:11 pm
Griff seeking after an independent alternative lol. Reminds me of when Steve777 used to pretend he was independent, even he dropped the pretence after a while.
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You are the master of pretence, Lars von Trier/Edwina StJohn/Edward StJohn 😉
If a Federal Election were held now the result would be ‘too close to call’ with the ALP on 50.5% (down 0.5%) just ahead of the Coalition on 49.5% (up 0.5%) on a two-party preferred basis, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds.
There was a slight movement to the Coalition on a two-party preferred result this week, however, the overall result is ‘too close to call’ and either the ALP or Coalition would require the support of minor parties and independents to form a minority government. The result again shows the importance of preference flows to determine the overall two-party preferred result.
The primary vote of both major parties was up this week – mainly at the expense of the Greens. ALP primary vote increased 0.5% to 30.5% while Coalition support increased 1% to 37.5%. Support for the Greens dropped 2% to 12.5% while One Nation was down 0.5% at 5.5%.
Support for Other Parties increased 0.5% to 4% and support for Independents was up 0.5% to 10%.
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/federal-voting-intention-virtually-unchanged-this-week-with-alp-50-5-marginally-ahead-of-the-coalition-49-5-but-greens-lost-support-after-violent-protests
Poll Bludger has again descended to Labor vs Green wars – so predictable and boring.
Rex Douglas says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 5:18 pm
Griff
If you were once of mind to vote for Reason, you could now never go back to Labor.
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We need to keep the bastards honest 😉 Sadly, The Greens wants to replace one of them, along with all the conflict that has entailed, and have lost their way. And when we don’t have a Pocock, who do we have to turn to? I shall be looking, but I am being honest in saying Labor is the fall back. We shall see what is on offer next year.
Prices at the supermarket, at the petrol bowser, for insurance, for electricity and other things need to come down in the next 6 months or so, and there needs to be an interest rate cut or two – otherwise this government is toast in 2025.
Guardian: Federal government’s push to develop and manufacture rocket motors in Australia.
The minister for defence industry, Pat Conroy, has spoken to reporters at Fairbairn, near Canberra airport. Under the plan, the government is “seeking options from industry to establish a manufacturing complex that will enable production of rocket motors for some of the world’s most advanced missiles in Australia”.
It will earmark an initial $22m for this purpose over the next three years to “help grow Australia’s advanced high-tech manufacturing sector and boost long‑range strike capabilities for the Australian Defence Force”. It is believed this funding comes from within an already announced bigger pool of money: the $21bn over 10 years to establish the Guided Weapons and Explosive Ordnance (GWEO) Enterprise. Under GWEO, the government wants to start making Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) missiles from next year. However, the proposed rocket motor complex may not begin production until the end of the 2020s decade.
The government has also announced plans to spend up to $60m over five years “to develop the next generation of guided weapon sub-systems and components, such as hypersonic and long-range strike”.
Democracy Sausagesays:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 5:27 pm
Prices at the supermarket, at the petrol bowser, for insurance, for electricity and other things need to come down in the next 6 months or so, and there needs to be an interest rate cut or two – otherwise this government is toast in 2025.
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It’s too late,baby, now it’s too late
Though we really did try to make it
Something inside has died
And I can’t hide and I just can’t fake it
Oh,no,no,no ,no
Bit like how griff feels searching for something better no doubt.
Once you’ve broken the addiction of voting Labor or L/NP, you don’t go back. You feel much healthier.
Holdenhillbilly says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 5:23 pm
If a Federal Election were held now the result would be ‘too close to call’ with the ALP on 50.5% (down 0.5%) just ahead of the Coalition on 49.5% (up 0.5%) on a two-party preferred basis, the latest Roy Morgan survey finds.
There was a slight movement to the Coalition on a two-party preferred result this week, however, the overall result is ‘too close to call’ and either the ALP or Coalition would require the support of minor parties and independents to form a minority government. The result again shows the importance of preference flows to determine the overall two-party preferred result.
The primary vote of both major parties was up this week – mainly at the expense of the Greens. ALP primary vote increased 0.5% to 30.5% while Coalition support increased 1% to 37.5%. Support for the Greens dropped 2% to 12.5% while One Nation was down 0.5% at 5.5%.
Support for Other Parties increased 0.5% to 4% and support for Independents was up 0.5% to 10%.
https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/federal-voting-intention-virtually-unchanged-this-week-with-alp-50-5-marginally-ahead-of-the-coalition-49-5-but-greens-lost-support-after-violent-protests
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Thanks. That is a large difference in Coalition primary to Freshwater.
Someone says a drovers Dog coulda beat Scotty.
I beg to differ.
Scotty beat Bill like a drum.
My theory is that Labor unleashed Brittany at exactly the right time, any earlier and it might have petered out.
It was just enough for a bare Majority win.
Credit must go to Albo for the timing and really Labor has no right to expect a 2nd term, though it could still easily happen.
Sure, but Labor is still stuck on 30 and going nowhere.
Vote for anybody other than the Labor – Coalition duopoly. It’s quite simple, really.
I’ll wait for the yougov pix poll before the gnashing of teeth begins. Meanwhile the Labor bashing from left and right continues adnausium on PB as you interpret this poll and that being caused by anything you choose Labor has done or failed to do. Self delusion is not debate, it is just hate speech disguised as woke thinking or right Wing nut job zealots. Knock yourselves out here in your other world echo chamber,- with too few intelligent exceptions. You have become as unreadable as Badthinker Lordbain and equally as offensive. I won’t bother reading your posts. It’s just toxic,smarmy whining I can do without. Carry on..
“Griff
If you were once of mind to vote for Reason, you could now never go back to Labor.”
@Rex Douglas
Rex you don’t represent the Teals or reason. There are some good independent Teals who have rational and reason. They criticise Labor on issues but don’t skew everything to put Labor in the worst light like you do. The Teals interviewed on insiders have far more substance then your posts represent. That also goes some of the Greens in the rank and file. I’ve spoken to some of them, and some of them far more pragmatic and have far more substance then crap you gone with (leadershit, Tweedledee/Tweedledum etc).
The guilty plea in Hong Kong by a young man to a charge of sedition for wearing a confrontational t-shirt really is a victory for the Rule of Law.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/16/chu-kai-pong-hong-kong-first-conviction-sedition-charge
‘Democracy Sausage says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 5:27 pm
Prices at the supermarket, at the petrol bowser, for insurance, for electricity and other things need to come down in the next 6 months or so, and there needs to be an interest rate cut or two – otherwise this government is toast in 2025.’
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Petrol is already heading south and will fall further as global oversupply meets falling demand.
Electricity will fall as more solar and wind comes online.
Insurance will go up because of global warming.
Fruit and veg, most likely ditto.
China will be trying to give away manufactured items.
There will be at least two interest rate cuts
Yeah Rex. Vote no to Albo and Dutton. It’s the sensible alternative.
Oh yeah 2 interest rate cuts in 7 months.
So the US may cut rates in Sept/Oct.
US rates are 5.25% and Aussie rates are 3.75%. Historically Aussie rates exceed US rates.
The RBA Governor has said no rate cuts for six months. So by hanging on your betting on a rate cut in February, March, April or May.
It’s too late – sorry.
Elmer Fudd says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 6:13 pm
I’ll wait for the yougov pix poll before the gnashing of teeth begins. Meanwhile the Labor bashing from left and right continues adnausium on PB as you interpret this poll and that being caused by anything you choose Labor has done or failed to do. Self delusion is not debate, it is just hate speech disguised as woke thinking or right Wing nut job zealots.
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Criticism of the government is hate speech now? There used to be a word on here for that kind of thing. It stated with S and ended with ooge.
‘Rewi says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 6:44 pm
The guilty plea in Hong Kong by a young man to a charge of sedition for wearing a confrontational t-shirt really is a victory for the Rule of Law.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/sep/16/chu-kai-pong-hong-kong-first-conviction-sedition-charge‘
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The Comrades are running scared ATM.
They know they are breaking the terms of the social licence deal: ‘You stay out of politics and go and get rich’ is being broken. They know they are struggling with the mandate from Heaven.
Hundreds of thousands of Mum and Dad stores are closing.
Wages are falling.
Unemployment is rising.
Youth unemployment is north of 20%.
Tens of millions have negative equity in their units. ROI on some Boom investments covers less than the cost of capital.
The $100 billion Yiong’an New Area ( a Xi pet project) is virtually deserted.
Consumers are pulling their heads in, big time. They are hoarding cash. They are paying down their mortgages.
New lending by the Big Banks has crashed.
The direction by the comrades to the banks to buy empty units from the essentially bankrupt construction companies is being defied.
Dongling Steel, No 23 in the top 500 companies, went bankrupt last week. 18,000 employees. Downstream financial implications are unknown.
Investment bankers are in the Comrades’ crosshairs. Several have recently been arrested. Senior figures in all sorts of big banks have been forced to resign.
Local governments carry monstrous debt burdens. Their biggest single source of revenue by far, land sales, are plummeting in value.
Mooncake sales have plummeted.
Foreign companies are leaving China in droves.
Foreign capital, ditto.
Domestic capital, ditto, if it can only find a way.
Stock market has tanked.
The birth rate is down to 1.
Ten year bonds are at record lows.
All this is bad news for Australia which rode the dragon during prosperity and which will suffer while the dragon gets the economic sulks.
There will be a panic rate cut well before Christmas and another by March at the latest.
Albanese’s leadership has been shit, he seems to have a poor understanding of the current situation and mood and what little he does he does too late when the damage is already done. He had a lot of goodwill at the start of his term and has squandered it all farting around and it’s become clear to people he either has no vision, or does not have the competence or courage to argue for and implement anything vaguely difficult or transformative. The country is worse off after 2.5 years of his government that’s the sad reality.
Labor is of course not solely to blame but they’ve spent nearly a full term offering no real leadership to address a housing crisis, this coming from a man who reminded us at every opportunity he grew up in social housing during the 2022 campaign. If you are going to keep saying something like that you better back your words with actions or get assessed as a fake person.
Was happy with his victory in 2022 thought he would do some good, but clearly I was wrong. Have totally lost respect for Albanese. The LNP don’t deserve to be re-elected to govt and neither do Labor.
Labor is of course not solely to blame but they’ve spent nearly a full term offering no real leadership to address a housing crisis, this coming from a man who reminded us at every opportunity he grew up in social housing during the 2022 campaign.
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I don’t think there’s much Albo or the government can really do about housing without breaking their commitment to run surpluses and combat inflation while also keeping the economy out of recession through immigration. Which in turn fuels the housing crises and inflation.
Not an enviable position to be in. Reminds me of this:
There was an old lady who swallowed a fly,
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her;
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
How absurd to swallow a bird!
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a cat;
Well, fancy that, she swallowed a cat!
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady that swallowed a dog;
What a hog to swallow a dog!
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a goat;
Just opened her throat and swallowed a goat!
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog,
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a cow;
I don’t know how she swallowed a cow!
She swallowed the cow to catch the goat,
She swallowed the goat to catch the dog,
She swallowed the dog to catch the cat,
She swallowed the cat to catch the bird,
She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
That wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her,
She swallowed the spider to catch the fly;
I don’t know why she swallowed a fly – perhaps she’ll die!
There was an old lady who swallowed a horse…
She’s dead, of course!
Australia, lions led by donkeys.
Then there are the facts.
Labor has delivered on most of its election promises.
The comparison is with Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison and Dutton who reckons he can somehow strip $315 billion in spending without sending the country into recession. Bloody fool.
The comparison is with the Greens who want .1% interest rates, 40% wage increases, a 2% permanent cap on rents and a 40% company tax. Idiots. On top of that they promise to gut a dozen industries that employ between them more than half a million people. Robin Hood is an economic nutcase.
Labor has put more money into social housing than any government this century.
Labor has done more for women in two years than the Coalition did in 10 years.
Labor is honest. Not a single minister has questions to answer.
Labor is delivering on 43/30.
Labor has delivered a raft of progressive reforms across a broad front.
Politically, Albanese has finally figured out how to handle the wedging Thug and his Toolie both of whom operate on bad faith, lies and misinformation. You know this is true because of the anguished squeals coming from the Greens.
Albanese’s Cabinet processes work very well. Albanese’s Cabinet is more than just competent. (The Coalition and Greens shadow spokespersons are variously ridiculous or crooked in comparison.)
Albanese will, of course, be remembered as one of Australia’s better prime ministers. Something nobody is going to be saying, ever, about Dutton and Bandt.
Of course they are. On both sides.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/sep/16/israel-gaza-war-hamas-houthis-netanyahu
Lars ” Reminds me of when Steve777 used to pretend he was independent, even he dropped the pretence after a while.”
That’s the second time you’ve said that in the last few weeks. When I started posting here on PB in January 2012, about midway through Julia Gillard’s term, I regarded Tony Abbott and his crew as a collection of malevolent clowns, chancers and liars who would do the country great damage. I was right. If anything, my opinion of the Liberals has lowered since then.
I am “independent” to the extent that I am not and never have been a member of any political party. However, it’s been a lon-n-n-ng time since I’ve considered the Liberals as an acceptable option at Federal level and could regard myself as an “independent”. I never pretended to be.
mj says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:11 pm
Albanese’s leadership has been shit, he seems to have a poor understanding of the current situation and mood and what little he does he does too late when the damage is already done. He had a lot of goodwill at the start of his term and has squandered it all farting around and it’s become clear to people he either has no vision, or does not have the competence or courage to argue for and implement anything vaguely difficult or transformative. The country is worse off after 2.5 years of his government that’s the sad reality.
Labor is of course not solely to blame but they’ve spent nearly a full term offering no real leadership to address a housing crisis, this coming from a man who reminded us at every opportunity he grew up in social housing during the 2022 campaign. If you are going to keep saying something like that you better back your words with actions or get assessed as a fake person.
Was happy with his victory in 2022 thought he would do some good, but clearly I was wrong. Have totally lost respect for Albanese. The LNP don’t deserve to be re-elected to govt and neither do Labor.
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First time I have seen the Voice referendum referred to as “farting around”. There is some novelty value, but does not redeem it.
So drumroll pls. HAFF after nearly 12 months has awarded funding for housing.
the housing crisis is solved.
After great deliberation – they have approved 700 new homes AUSTRALIA WIDE.
Hilarious.
The voters still seem to prefer Albanese to Dutton as prime minister.
Nobody even bother asking whether voters would prefer Bandt as prime minister. 13% would be a reasonably embarrassing outcome for Robin Hood.
700?
Just the start, of course.
It is also precisely 700 more than Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison delivered in ten years and precisely 700 more than Dutton is promising to deliver. Ever.
Like I said earlier it’s about leadership.
Labor just doesn’t have any right now.
The truly huge question with China is whether the Comrades are going to try to go back to a command economy.
… just like the one the Greens fantasize about for Australia.
‘Mundo says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:42 pm
Like I said earlier it’s about leadership.
Labor just doesn’t have any right now.’
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Sure it does. It is just not the kind of leadership you want.
Note however that not a single one of the (bugger all) homes delivered by the HAFF is a public home, and in fact they all seem to be ‘affordable’ and not even ‘social’ homes, so allow me to queue up my biggest golf clap for this housing boon that the HAFF has bestowed upon us…….
But sure, this is exactly the sort of transformative policy that will see Labor romp it in at the next election
dave:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:20 pm
I enjoyed reading that. Thanks.
So we have 10,879,000 in housing stock in this country, so HAFF has delivered 0.00006434% increase in the housing stock. Woo Hoo!
It’s enough to make griff and steve777 go independent.
‘PageBoi says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:46 pm
Note however that not a single one of the (bugger all) homes delivered by the HAFF is a public home, and in fact they all seem to be ‘affordable’ and not even ‘social’ homes, so allow me to queue up my biggest golf clap for this housing boon that the HAFF has bestowed upon us…….
But sure, this is exactly the sort of transformative policy that will see Labor romp it in at the next election’
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Note however that Labor has put funding in for thousands of social homes. Something the Coalition did not do in a decade. Note however that the Greens have blocked or delayed every single housing initiative by Labor. Note however that the Greens at the local and regional level routinely, and I mean routinely, delay, protest against or defeat housing development after housing development.
And what do PageBoi’s Greens offer instead?
The Greens promised to build a million affordable homes where people want to live.
But their other policies say that new housing developments are not allowed on productive farmland, on listed species distributions, where they spoil the view, on urban remnants, and in peri-urban bushland. It is all their in the web policies. That actually leaves nowhere except up in brownfields developments and to go up in multi storey towers. Where, according to the Greens, people WANT TO LIVE.
Few Greens actually read their policies. They would rather delay, block and slag. A lot easier and a lot more destructive fun.
If the Greens like PageBoi did read ALL the Greens housing policies they would have to accept that they are selling a big fat lie to rough sleepers, victims of domestic violence, the homeless and Indigenous people crowded 16 to a house in remote communities.
At the local level the Greens routinely seek to lead local NIMBY efforts in all these circumstances.
Meanwhile the Greens also wring their hands at the evils of wealth maldistribution as epitomized by housing. But at least four Greens senators hold mulitple housing portofolios.
Greens MPs like Robin Hood who own only one dwelling have raked in fantastic capital increases in unearned income while the homeless squat in city parks opposite their Greens’ castles.
BTW, Albanese has wised up to the Thug and his Toolie. They routinely and in bad faith wedged him and worked him over on policy after policy after policy.
He is now playing them off against each other.
And the Greens are squealing like stuck pigs. Not fair! Bulldozer! Diddums.
Boerwar says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:55 pm
‘PageBoi says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 7:46 pm
Note however that not a single one of the (bugger all) homes delivered by the HAFF is a public home, and in fact they all seem to be ‘affordable’ and not even ‘social’ homes, so allow me to queue up my biggest golf clap for this housing boon that the HAFF has bestowed upon us…….
But sure, this is exactly the sort of transformative policy that will see Labor romp it in at the next election’
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Note however that Labor has put funding in for thousands of social homes. Something the Coalition did not do in a decade. Note however that the Greens have blocked or delayed every single housing initiative by Labor. Note however that the Greens at the local and regional level routinely, and I mean routinely, delay, protest against or defeat housing development after housing development.
And what do PageBoi’s Greens offer instead?
The Greens promised to build a million affordable homes where people want to live.
But their other policies say that new housing developments are not allowed on productive farmland, on listed species distributions, where they spoil the view, on urban remnants, and in peri-urban bushland. It is all their in the web policies. That actually leaves nowhere except up in brownfields developments and to go up in multi storey towers. Where, according to the Greens, people WANT TO LIVE.
Few Greens actually read their policies. They would rather delay, block and slag. A lot easier and a lot more destructive fun.
If the Greens like PageBoi did read ALL the Greens housing policies they would have to accept that they are selling a big fat lie to rough sleepers, victims of domestic violence, the homeless and Indigenous people crowded 16 to a house in remote communities.
At the local level the Greens routinely seek to lead local NIMBY efforts in all these circumstances.
Meanwhile the Greens also wring their hands at the evils of wealth maldistribution as epitomized by housing. But at least four Greens senators hold mulitple housing portofolios.
Greens MPs like Robin Hood who own only one dwelling have raked in fantastic capital increases in unearned income while the homeless squat in city parks opposite their Greens’ castles.
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I personally do not think one needs to wear sackcloth and ashes to provide succour to the homeless. Better to play the ball 😉
What did Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison deliver in 10 years?
.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
What will Dutton deliver should he become PM?
.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Which is why it has been left to Labor to, once again, fix up a Coalition mess.
For all the sabre rattling between Greens and Labor, the fact is that Labor cannot survive with its primary vote being where it is currently, and seems to be heading, without Green voter preferences. For all the carry on by Boerwar et al, the Government and ALP is reliant on Greens voters preferences in many areas. So, are there areas of cooperation that could be had, or is it just constant sniping and ad nauseum lists?
Wranslide the voice of reason in the asylum. You’ve turned up just as the dirty protests are about to start.
‘wranslide says:
Monday, September 16, 2024 at 8:03 pm
For all the sabre rattling between Greens and Labor, the fact is that Labor cannot survive with its primary vote being where it is currently, and seems to be heading, without Green voter preferences. For all the carry on by Boerwar et al, the Government and ALP is reliant on Greens voters preferences in many areas. So, are there areas of cooperation that could be had, or is it just constant sniping and ad nauseum lists?’
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Toughen up, petal. Rattenbury has just articulated the Greens wet dream. They want to be the major partner in government. To do that they HAVE to damage Labor. They know it. And that is what they are doing, week in, week out. Labor can NEVER be good enough. It is ALWAYS open to free criticism.
And it comes. All day, every day.
That, in doing so, they are helping Dutton, Littleproud and Hanson does not seem to have even occurred to them.
Dutton and David and Pauline are up a combined 4.5% in the polling since the last election.
The Greens? Surely all that destructive behaviour, all the lies, all the misrepresentations, all the stunts they should be up like the other forces of evil.
Nope.
The Greens are up a miserable .3%. And their trend is down.
I like to think that the rational Greens are deserting the Greens.
It’s so cute that the bore thinks that the government has any realistic plans at all for housing……
He makes these massive posts so they must be correct
It must be hard being a labor partisan and having so little to point to as your record for a wasted term of office