Weekend miscellany: Archer on, Pearce off (open thread)

Retirement announcements from both the Liberal and Labor camps, and various disturbances in the force ensuing from the New South Wales redistribution proposal.

We’re about due for polls from Resolve Strategic in the Age/Herald and Freshwater Strategy in the Financial Review, which could perhaps be along this evening. The fortnightly Essential Research should also be along on Tuesday, and as always Roy Morgan will come through on Monday. Other than that, the dominating piece of electoral news at the moment is the publication of the proposed federal redistribution of New South Wales on Friday, for which you can see my estimated margins and party vote shares in the dedicated post, and read my analysis piece in Crikey if you’re a subscriber.

Semi-relatedly, it’s also been a big week for preselection news:

• Gavin Pearce, who has held the traditionally marginal seat of Braddon in north-western Tasmania for the Liberals since 2019, will not recontest the seat at the next election, saying his parliamentary career had “taken a toll” on his family life. A factional conservative ally of state party powerbroker Eric Abetz, Pearce earlier told colleagues he was holding back on nominating to force the party to block his arch-moderate colleague Bridget Archer in the neighbouring seat of Bass, who in the event was preselected unopposed. The party will have to reopen nominations in Braddon, for which the failure of Pearce or anyone else to nominate last week was the first indication of his impending retirement. Matthew Denholm of The Australian reports Latrobe deputy mayor Vonette Mead is “understood to be the most likely candidate to replace Mr Pearce”, while Burnie deputy mayor Giovanna Simpson “has also been touted but is said to be eyeing the state upper house seat of Montgomery”. Both were candidates in Braddon at the March state election, respectively polling 2.1% and 2.6% on a Liberal ticket dominated by Premier Jeremy Rockliff.

• Another retirement announcement last week was that of Maria Vamvakinou, who has held the safe Labor seat of Calwell in northern Melbourne since 2001. Paul Sakkal of The Age reports Basem Abdo, a communications specialist born in Kuwait of Palestinian parents, has what seems decisive backing to succeed her from the Socialist Left faction.

James Campbell of the Daily Telegraph reports former New South Wales Treasurer Matt Kean is weighing up a preselection challenge against Bradfield MP Paul Fletcher, after the redistribution proposal made it likely the seat will be contested by teal independent member Kylea Tink, whose seat of North Sydney is to be abolished. The report quotes a Liberal source saying there would be “an argument among the moderates about who is best to hold that seat and a lot of them are going to say it is Matt Kean”. This would require reopening nominations for the seat, but Kean would likely have enough support to accomplish this.

• The Australian’s Feeding the Chooks column reports two candidates have nominated for Labor preselection in the northern Brisbane seat of Longman, which the party lost in 2019 and failed to win back in 2022: Rebecca Fanning, who has worked for Steven Miles, Wayne Swan and most recently state Mines Minister Scott Stewart, and Rhiannyn Douglas, a 27-year-old Left-aligned party organiser and former staffer to state Environment Minister Meaghan Scanlon.

• Claire Clutterham, Norwood Payneham and St Peters councillor and special counsel at LK Law, appears set to be the Labor candidate for the Adelaide seat of Sturt, held for the Liberals by James Stevens on a margin of 0.5%, after a public endorsement from Anthony Albanese. InDaily reported last week that no other nominees were expected.

Katina Curtis of The West Australian reports that Ian Goodenough, who has lost Liberal preselection for his northern Perth seat of Moore, says he is considering accepting an invitation from the Nationals to join the party, and has also raised the possibility of running as an independent. The Nationals have been pursuing designs on seats in Perth at the looming federal and state elections, and are “excited about the new seat of Bullwinkel”, a mixed urban-rural seat that encompasses traditionally Nationals-voting territory in the Avon Valley east of Perth.

• In her The Sauce column in the Sunday Telegraph, Linda Silmalis reports former state Nationals leader Paul Toole is a potential candidate for Calare, whose member Andrew Gee has been sitting as an independent since he quit the party in December 2022 over his support for the Indigenous Voice. Silmalis says there are also moves in the Liberal Party to persuade former state minister David Elliott to consider seeking preselection in Greenway, where the proposed boundaries reduce the Labor margin from 11.5% to 8.2% on my calculations. Elliott has often been mentioned in relation to the seat of Parramatta, where the party preselected local lawyer Katie Mullens after he declined to put his name forward.

Author: William Bowe

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  1. What I want to know is who are Labor going to select to run in the seat of Braddon? And it better not be the same person who always runs. And loses. Labor are in with a shot at the next election now.

  2. Nate Cohn with a very thoughtful article, full of analysis:

    In a reversal of one of the most familiar patterns in American politics, it appears that Donald J. Trump, not President Biden, would stand to gain if everyone in the country turned out and voted.

    In New York Times/Siena College polls over the last year, Mr. Biden holds a wide lead over Mr. Trump among regular primary and midterm voters, yet he trails among the rest of the electorate, giving Mr. Trump a lead among registered voters overall.

    The pattern is the latest example of how the Trump brand of conservative populism has transformed American politics. His candidacy galvanized liberals to defend democracy and abortion rights, giving Democrats the edge in low-turnout special and midterm elections. Yet at the same time, early polls suggest, many less engaged and infrequent voters have grown deeply dissatisfied with Mr. Biden.

    The disengaged voters do not necessarily like Mr. Trump, the polling shows. But they’re motivated by pocketbook issues, more desiring of fundamental changes to the political system, and far less concerned about democracy as an issue in the election. Many low-turnout voters — notably including many who consider themselves Democrats — now say they’ll back Mr. Trump.

    This unusual turnout dynamic is one of the central forces shaping the 2024 campaign. It helps explain why recent polls and election results seem so divergent, and why Mr. Trump has gained among young and nonwhite voters, who are less likely to vote than older white voters. It creates a challenge for the campaigns, who are finding that time-tested strategies for mobilizing irregular voters may not work quite the same way as they did in the past.

    With five months to go until the election, there’s still time for less engaged voters to tune in and swing back toward Mr. Biden. Many infrequent voters aren’t yet tuned into the race, and their preferences appear highly volatile. If the polls are right, they’ve swung 20 percentage points since 2020, but some changed their answers when re-interviewed in the wake of Mr. Trump’s felony conviction in New York. Even if Mr. Trump holds his edge among the disengaged, it’s not clear many of these low-turnout voters will ultimately show up to vote.

    But if they do vote, Mr. Trump would stand to gain — something unimaginable for a Republican as recently as a few years ago.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/upshot/election-democrats-republicans-turnout-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.z00.YDHD.7RhuqAjzLAjB&smid=url-share

    (free to read)

  3. c@t: “What I want to know is who are Labor going to select to run in the seat of Braddon? And it better not be the same person who always runs. And loses. Labor are in with a shot at the next election now.”
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    It’s difficult to know if Labor are in with a realistic chance or not. At the state level, Braddon is far and away the most conservative electorate in Tassie. But it’s been better for them at the Federal level. A popular local figure, Sid Sidebottom, held it for Labor for 12 out of 15 years between 1998 and 2013 and then Justine Keay held it for one term from 2016-2019 (including having to contest a by-election mid-term because she was one of the section 44 brigade. She decided not to recontest the seat in 2022 for some reason or other.

    A relatively anonymous Burnie City Councillor named Chris Lynch ran in 2022. Perhaps Labor can find someone with a higher profile this time, but it’s pretty slim pickings in terms of Labor talent in Tassie at the moment. I’ve always been quite impressed with one of the state members, Shane Broad, but I doubt he could be persuaded to give up his relatively safe position in state parliament for an unlikely tilt at a Federal seat.

    My sense is that the electorate of Braddon is steadily becoming a bit more conservative, as its population continues to age and its once strong industrial base continues to decline. An influx of mainlanders to the more attractive spots in the electorate helps to reverse these trends a little, but I would suspect not enough.

  4. Archer on, Pearce off.

    I guess based on the original of a Billy Birmingham parody of the call of a State of Origin by Darryl Eastlake and Jack Gibson.
    Eastlake announced a player replacement by saying “Pearce off, Jack, Gibbs on” (Wayne Pearce and John Gibbs). A fight between the commentators ensues.

  5. meher baba
    So I must have been thinking about the Labor candidate for Bass, Ross …

    I hope he doesn’t contest again for Labor. It seems to me from my vantage point a long way away that the electorate is over him.

  6. Perhaps Archer’s floor crossin’ hi-jinks are a hint that she expects to be made a Minister in return for good behaviour?
    Wouldn’t be the first time this has happened.

  7. Oakeshott Country @ #5 Sunday, June 16th, 2024 – 7:28 am

    Archer on, Pearce off.

    I guess based on the original of a Billy Birmingham parody of the call of a State of Origin by Darryl Eastlake and Jack Gibson.
    Eastlake announced a player replacement by saying “Pearce off, Jack, Gibbs on” (Wayne Pearce and John Gibbs). A fight between the commentators ensues.

    Best me to it 🙂

  8. World News/Politics:
    Eight Israeli soldiers killed in Gaza in one of the deadliest incidents for the IDF since October 7: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/15/middleeast/eight-soldiers-killed-rafah-intl/index.html
    New China rules allow detention of foreigners in South China Sea: https://www.yahoo.com/news/china-rules-allow-detention-foreigners-051434352.html
    Undeterred Houthi attacks squeeze international trade: https://www.axios.com/2024/06/15/yemen-houthi-rebels-red-sea-international-trade
    Protesters across France mobilise against the far right before the country’s snap elections: https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240615-protesters-across-france-mobilise-against-the-far-right-before-the-country-s-snap-elections
    Sweden frees an Iranian man convicted over 1988 mass executions in exchange for 2 men held by Iran: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/iran-sweden-agree-prisoner-swap-freeing-man-convicted-111149459
    ICC must be allowed to carry out work ‘without intimidation’, say 93 member states: https://www.theguardian.com/law/article/2024/jun/15/icc-must-be-allowed-to-carry-out-work-without-intimidation-say-93-member-states
    Supreme Court gun ruling stuns Las Vegas shooting survivors: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c033d532354o
    Biden preparing to offer legal status to undocumented immigrants who have lived in U.S. for 10 years: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-plan-undocumented-immigrants-legal-status-10-years-in-u-s-married/
    DeSantis rejects climate change rationale for record-breaking rain: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/06/15/desantis-florida-storm-floods-rain/
    Record-breaking fires consume Brazil’s Pantanal wetland: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/14/americas/brazil-pantanal-wetland-fires-intl-latam/index.html
    Eyeing Trump presidency, conservatives want to delay funding fight: https://thehill.com/business/appropriations/4723356-conservatives-funding-fight-2025/
    Raskin hits Republicans for bowing to ‘sugar daddy’ Trump after Capitol visit: https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4724062-jamie-raskin-donald-trump-capitol-hill-visit-sugar-daddy/
    Rishi Sunak lands in Switzerland for Ukraine peace summit: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rishi-sunak-lands-switzerland-ukraine-164100577.html
    Fresh poll predicts Tories will win just 72 seats in next parliament: https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-poll-predicts-tories-will-win-just-72-seats-in-next-parliament-13153645
    Voters’ trust in Tories on tax plummets as Rishi Sunak’s final election gambit fails: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tax-trust-poll-election-labour-b2563219.html

  9. c@t: “I hope he doesn’t contest again for Labor. It seems to me from my vantage point a long way away that the electorate is over him.”
    ————————————————————————-
    I don’t have any reason to believe that’s particularly the case. I was always quite impressed by him: more so than by Justine Keay or by the member for Lyons, Brian Mitchell.

    But there’s no good reason for Labor to run with Hart again, given that Hart held the seat for three years, lost it in 2019 and then failed to get re-elected in 2022 with a very small swing against him (around 1 per cent).

    Bridget Archer did extremely well in 2022 to achieve a swing towards her against the national tide and hold on to the “ejector seat of Australian politics”. She’s achieved a high local profile and I suspect that the very qualities that make her anathema to many of her Liberal colleagues tend to enhance her popularity with the electorate as a whole. And that these will carry her to a third successive victory in Bass in the next election: something last achieved by Kevin Newman in 1983. So any Labor candidate for Bass in the next election is going to have an uphill task.

    If I were advising local Labor, I would be suggesting that they need to focus their energies on retaining Lyons, which is going to be a difficult enough task for them.

  10. Here’s a line that Peter Dutton may find useful, as he tries to persuade the electorate to stop supporting action action to deal with Climate Change and Global Heating (as delivered by Ron De Santis after record-breaking rainfall in Florida this week):

    “We don’t want our energy policy driven by climate ideology,” DeSantis said Friday. “When that happens, people pay more and the energy is less reliable.”

    What De Santis and the other Climate Change Deniers refuse to acknowledge is the reality:

    The storm arrived 14 months after another “rain bomb” hit South Florida, dropping 22.5 inches on Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in one day. Last year’s storm knocked the city’s main hospital offline for all but emergency procedures, shorted electrical equipment at City Hall and left thousands of travelers stranded.

    Both that system and this week’s deluge bear the fingerprint of human-caused climate change. In a warmer world, the atmosphere can hold more moisture. That means rainfall rates are getting heavier and extremes are becoming more common.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/06/15/desantis-florida-storm-floods-rain/

  11. I’m a bit late commenting on this, but I was pleased to see the outcome of post-election negotiations in South Africa. The new coalition government gives that country some hope by staving off for a few more years the perhaps inevitable day when hard men like Zuma and Malema or their successors are able to take control.

    Left-leaning people in western societies love to sneer at “trickle-down economics.” But a trickle down of wealth represents the only hope for the mass of South Africans. The only realistic alternative policy is a Zimbabwe/Venezuala style of government in which the hard men will seize private wealth in the name of the poor, but will distribute most of it to themselves and to their cronies and supporters. When that day comes, nvestment will dry up and capital pulled out of the country by those investors who are quick enough, the currency will probably collapse and the situation of most South Africans will deteriorate greatly.

    This nightmare scenario appears to have been deferred for at least a few more years, perhaps giving the economy a chance to grow further and create more jobs and prosperity for ordinary people, thereby making it a little more difficult for the wreckers to destabilise.

    And the need to sustain a coalition government will help to temper some of the ANC’s own corruption and inefficiency, and will possibly also force them to make a more serious attempt to do something about the appallingly high levels of crime in the country.

    So two cheers for Ramaphosa and Steenhuisen (three would be excessive). Let’s hope it works out.

  12. 41000 people at the Adelaide oval last night.

    40000 whiny whingers.

    Thanks Adelaide for a sensational night and a sweet night out.

  13. The polls have really tightened up, it seems like only the other day all the talk was two terms of Albanese and orderly succession to Chalmers, 12 years minimum before the it’s time even became a factor. Has it even been two years.

  14. Morning all. Holden Hillbilly thanks for the international roundup. I can’t work out Rishi Sunak. First he drops the DDay commemorations to go back to UK for election politics yet now drops the latter to go to a Swiss Ukraine conference he did not have to be at? He is being quite erratic at present.

  15. [‘Trust in the Tories on tax has collapsed, a new poll has revealed, in another massive blow to Rishi Sunak as he tries to turn his party’s election fortunes around with less than three weeks to go.

    According to an exclusive poll by Techne UK for The Independent, Sir Keir Starmer has a trust rating of more than double that of Mr Sunak as postal votes are sent out this weekend in a crucial stage of the campaign.

    It comes after the Tories put all their efforts into using tax as the key dividing issue and launched an assault on Labour’s plans in a last-ditch bid to stop Sir Keir from winning power with “a supermajority” on 4 July.

    The gambit – involving chief Treasury secretary Laura Trott claiming Labour has plans for 18 secret tax rises, including a tax raid on selling homes – appeared to be an attempt to reverse the stubborn poll gap of around 20 points with Labour and see off a threat of being passed by Nigel Farage’s Reform UK.

    The Techne UK poll of 1,636 UK voters revealed that 36 per cent trust Sir Keir most on tax compared to just 16 per cent for Mr Sunak. In a further blow to the prime minister, he is level pegging with Mr Farage on the issue as Reform also polled 16 per cent.’]

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tories-tax-trust-poll-election-labour-b2563219.html

    The Tories could be left with just 72 seats out of 650, going against the trend elsewhere where the right is in the ascendancy:

    https://news.sky.com/story/fresh-poll-predicts-tories-will-win-just-72-seats-in-next-parliament-13153645#:~:text=Pollsters%20say%20the%20Tories%20are,also%20rising%20up%20the%20ranks.&text=Two%20polls%20published%20today%20spell,pick%20up%20just%2072%20seats.

  16. Archer on, Pearce off.

    I guess based on the original of a Billy Birmingham parody of the call of a State of Origin by Darryl Eastlake and Jack Gibson.
    Eastlake announced a player replacement by saying “Pearce off, Jack, Gibbs on” (Wayne Pearce and John Gibbs). A fight between the commentators ensues.

    I think you will find the player was Ron Gibbs (Gold Coast) and not Johnny Gibbs (Manly) 🙂

  17. On Sturt preselection, Labor has announced Claire Clutterham as the candidate. She is from the right faction and formerly a lawyer for ASC.

    “ Claire Clutterham, Norwood Payneham and St Peters councillor and special counsel at LK Law, appears set to be the Labor candidate for the Adelaide seat of Sturt, held for the Liberals by James Stevens on a margin of 0.5%, after a public endorsement from Anthony Albanese. InDaily reported last week that no other nominees were expected.”

    Claire seems a quality candidate who might win. Yet I can’t help being a little disappointed that previous candidate Sonya Barham did not try again. Sonya was an excellent hard working local candidate who got an 8% swing to Labor in 2022. Her efforts are why Sturt is close now. She nearly won last time and might get over the line again.

    Liberal MP James Stevens is an anonymous dud and IMO Labor should stick to the same candidate to build up recognition. The Greens have selected Katie McKusker, the same candidate who hugely lifted their vote in the recent State Dunstan bi-election. She will be a serious chance of winning if Dutton keeps rambling about nuclear power and no 2035 emissions target. A good Teal candidate would also have a chance.

  18. Buying Saudi oil in rupees is good for the currency, the import bill won’t be cheaper

    https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/buying-saudi-oil-in-rupees-is-good-for-the-currency-the-import-bill-wont-be-cheaper-19428621.htm

    “After 50 years, Saudi Arabia has decided to accept currencies other than the dollar for the oil it sells. However, even if India—the world’s third-biggest oil consumer—gets to pay for the imported oil in rupees, it may not result in any significant savings in the near term beyond the reduced dependence on the dollar. Here’s why.

    The Saudi currency, the Riyal, is pegged to the dollar. Therefore, the cost of the oil would be calculated in dollar terms, even if the final payment is in another currency like the rupee.

    However, it will have some other benefits over the long term. The two countries, India and Saudi Arabia may settle bilateral trade in their respective currencies.

    According to data from the Centre for Monitoring Indian Economy and the Bank of Baroda, at the end of December 2021, Saudi Arabia accounted for about 16.6% of India’s crude oil imports.

    Soon after, New Delhi chose to pile on the cheaper oil from Russia in the wake of the war with Ukraine. Settling in Riyal/Rupees may also lead to a step forward in what Shaktikanta Das, the Governor of the Reserve Bank of India, described as the ‘internationalisation of the rupee’ at Davos in January 2024.

    After cracking a deal with Russia for trade settlement in rupees and roubles, albeit with challenges, India had been pushing other countries like the United Arab Emirates and China to exchange the respective currencies instead of the US dollar.

    In August 2023, India made the first rupee payment for oil bought from the UAE.

    Saudi Arabia’s move to end a 50-year-old petrodollar agreement, which mandated that the US dollar would remain the sole currency for global crude oil transactions, is still historic.

    It aligns with the steps many countries took to reduce reliance on the US dollar after the sanctions on Russia showed the kind of leverage America wielded over other nations.

    Volatility in other currencies, triggered by increasing US interest rates, also added to countries’ concerns. In 2023, a fifth of the global oil trade was reportedly settled in non-USD currencies.”

    Article: It aligns with the steps many countries took to reduce reliance on the US dollar after the sanctions on Russia showed the kind of leverage America wielded over other nations.

    Me: That is how America wielded soft power over many countries.

  19. Here’s a line that Peter Dutton may find useful, as he tries to persuade the electorate to stop supporting action action to deal with Climate Change and Global Heating (as delivered by Ron De Santis after record-breaking rainfall in Florida this week)

    I’d be more amused by Dutton et al. parroting De Numptis etc. if taxpayers weren’t paying for their “educational” trips.

    On second thoughts, I’d probably be more concerned if they ran with a brain fart of their own.

  20. Insiders watching the Murdoch minions trying to turn Dutton’s brain fart into something sane is fascinating.

    LOL

  21. Those journalists on Insiders are giving me the irrits! They keep saying that the government won’t meet its 2030 Emissions Reduction targets when it’s only by 1% for goodness sake! Not one of them mentioned that!

    And, oh, Peter Dutton is so smart to say he’s here for you not the people in Paris. 🙄

    When the truth is that abandoning the climate of Australia is NOT being there for you.

  22. [‘A truism of American politics is that older voters prefer the Republican and younger voters prefer the Democrat.

    That’s what happened in 2020, when Democrat Joe Biden won voters under 50 and Republican Donald Trump won voters over 50, according to exit polls. Biden’s margin among younger voters — he got 65% of voters ages 18-24 — helped him overcome the fact that Trump got 52% of older voters, who accounted for more than half the electorate.

    In 2016, Trump defeated Hillary Clinton in the Electoral College even though she got more votes than him, but the pattern of younger voters supporting the Democrat held. Clinton got more votes among voters ages 18-44, and Trump got more votes among voters ages 45 and older, according to exit polls.

    In 2012, Republican Mitt Romney lost the election, but he did better than Democrat Barack Obama among voters 45 and older.

    Voters under 30 haven’t preferred the Republican since 1988, when George H.W. Bush defeated Democrat Michael Dukakis in a landslide. Voters over the age of 65 haven’t preferred the Democrat since 2000, when Al Gore lost the election despite getting more votes than Republican George W. Bush.

    But the old rules don’t seem to apply in this year’s presidential election, where both candidates are old men and their fitness to serve is a top issue. Older voters are gravitating to Biden, and younger voters are taking a look at Trump.’]

    Let’s hope the young come to their senses.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/15/politics/election-age-what-matters/index.html

  23. After Penny the press look like a bunch of amateurs.
    Ban media accounts for under 16, we need a greater VPN etc. training and knowledge in the young.

  24. frednksays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:40 am
    [Penny Wong is amazing]

    There is no suitable personnel from the LNP side of politics capable of performing as foreign minister with the aplomb, intelligence, experience and effectiveness that Penny Wong has displayed.

  25. There is no suitable personnel from the LNP side of politics capable of performing as foreign minister with the aplomb, intelligence, experience and effectiveness that Penny Wong has displayed.
    ______________
    Come on! What about Sussan Ley?


  26. Team Katichsays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 8:41 am
    41000 people at the Adelaide oval last night.

    40000 whiny whingers.

    Thanks Adelaide for a sensational night and a sweet night out.

    24 points down at one time, Swans fashioned a 66 point turn around.

    But they should stop giving palpitations to Swans fans in most of their matches this year by giving huge head start to their opponents.


  27. Steelydansays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 8:42 am
    The polls have really tightened up, it seems like only the other day all the talk was two terms of Albanese and orderly succession to Chalmers, 12 years minimum before the it’s time even became a factor. Has it even been two years.

    Steelydan
    Do you remember how euphoric L-NP were after 1996 election when they won 94 seats. Within 2 years Howard government was trailing badly in polls and barely scrapped through in 1998 election due to a couple of female MPs in Victoria and SA. The 2PP in 1996 was 53.6% and 2PP in 1998 was 49% for L-NP
    That could happen in 2025 election.

  28. BK @ #NaN Sunday, June 16th, 2024 – 9:53 am

    There is no suitable personnel from the LNP side of politics capable of performing as foreign minister with the aplomb, intelligence, experience and effectiveness that Penny Wong has displayed.
    ______________
    Come on! What about Sussan Ley?

    She’d have to consult an astrology chart first before accepting the job.

  29. Vensays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:59 am

    Steelydansays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 8:42 am
    The polls have really tightened up, it seems like only the other day all the talk was two terms of Albanese and orderly succession to Chalmers, 12 years minimum before the it’s time even became a factor. Has it even been two years.

    Steelydan
    Do you remember how euphoric L-NP were after 1996 election when they won 94 seats. Within 2 years Howard government was trailing badly in polls and barely scrapped through in 1998 election due to a couple of female MPs in Victoria and SA. The 2PP in 1996 was 53.6% and 2PP in 1998 was 49% for L-NP
    That could happen in 2025 election.
    ____________________________________________________________
    You mean the 1998 election when Howard went to the election with the GST and won…that election. I am not aware in my lifetime of a party taking a tougher sell to the electorate.
    I would not fret though barring something unforeseen your mob should get up next time around and a change in PM after that may change your chances, though Chalmers has not lived up to the hype either more Swan than Keating.

  30. meher babasays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 7:39 am
    Here’s something for any Bludger who is tempted to join Ven in their fandom for Modi.

    Secure in government once more, the BJP moves swiftly against its enemies from the Indian liberal intellectual class.

    https://www.indiatoday.in/law/story/delhi-lt-governor-prosecution-author-arundhati-roy-uapa-law-2010-kashmir-sedition-2553330-2024-06-14
    ===================================================

    4 Corners tomorrow night should be interesting. Also looking at Modi’s intimidation of some of the Indian diaspora now living in Australia too. Modi is a very unsavoury character. Who possibly only won the recent elections due to voter intimidation against the non-Modi voting minorities?

  31. BeeBeeKayKaysays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 9:53 am
    [There is no suitable personnel from the LNP side of politics capable of performing as foreign minister with the aplomb, intelligence, experience and effectiveness that Penny Wong has displayed.]
    ______________
    [Come on! What about Sussan Ley?]

    Fixed it!

  32. Ven, at least one swan fan at the game had no palpitations. The bounce of the ball wasn’t going their way, calls were sympathetic to home team. And they hadn’t adjusted yet to the conditions. I was pretty confident it was just a matter of time for all those things to turn.

    However, crows certainly disrupted the swans and were great in their physicality. Won’t take much to turn the crows into contenders. Blaming everything on umps won’t help them tho. They were a miserable and cranky lot from the get-go.

  33. The House of Representatives just passed the defense authorization bill which provides for a national, automatic registration by Selective Service of all young Americans between the ages of 18-26. This sets the stage for a large-scale conscription (draft) to enable expansion of…— Dennis Kucinich (@Dennis_Kucinich) June 14, 2024

    Bipartisan policy.

    Australia next …?

  34. Rex Douglassays:
    Sunday, June 16, 2024 at 11:37 am
    The House of Representatives just passed the defense authorization bill which provides for a national, automatic registration by Selective Service of all young Americans between the ages of 18-26. This sets the stage for a large-scale conscription (draft) to enable expansion of…— Dennis Kucinich (@Dennis_Kucinich) June 14, 2024

    Bipartisan policy.

    Australia next …?
    ====================================================

    I assume he means USA Congress here?

    I assume also it is a MAGA backed policy. So it would only occur if the Trump lovers in Australia were in power.

  35. Rex Douglas @ #NaN Sunday, June 16th, 2024 – 11:37 am

    The House of Representatives just passed the defense authorization bill which provides for a national, automatic registration by Selective Service of all young Americans between the ages of 18-26. This sets the stage for a large-scale conscription (draft) to enable expansion of…— Dennis Kucinich (@Dennis_Kucinich) June 14, 2024

    Bipartisan policy.

    Australia next …?

    American House of Representatives controlled by the Republican Party. The Senate and Presidency are controlled by the Democrats, so they won’t pass it. So the answer to your disingenuous, speculative question is, NO.

  36. Team Katich

    Crows fans miserable and grumpy?

    Don’t ever visit Perth for a West Coast game.

    Even in their better days as flat track bullies and virtually unbeatable at home the faithful booed every free kick to the opposition, every shot on goal.

    Am enjoying watching Sydney.

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