The Courier-Mail has a uComms poll of Queensland state voting intention showing a tie on two-party preferred, compared with a 51-49 lead for the LNP in a similar poll just before Christmas, shortly after Steven Miles succeeded Annastacia Palaszczuk as Premier. This is the first Queensland poll not to show the LNP in front since December 2022, although its leads tended to be fairly modest. After allocating a forced follow-up question for the 12.5% initially undecided, the primary votes come out at 34.2% for Labor (down 0.2%), 37.3% for the LNP (down 0.7%), 12.2% for the Greens (down 1.1%), 7.7% for One Nation (up 0.4%) and 3.9% for Katter’s Australian Party (down 0.1%).
David Crisafulli nonetheless records a narrow 51-49 over Miles on a forced response preferred premier question, in from 52.2-47.8 last time. Steven Miles is rated positively by 44.2% (up from 42.7%), neutrally by 25.2% (down from 27.6%) and negatively by 25.2% (down from 27.6%). Crisafulli is 41.7% for positive (up from 37.8%), 31.2% for neutral (up from 30.2%) and 18.7% for negative (down from 22.8%). The sample for the poll was 1743, with field work dates not provided in the Courier-Mail report.
Further news related to the state election to be held on October 26:
• Attorney-General Yvette D’Ath announced yesterday she would retire at the election, creating a vacancy in her northern Brisbane seat of Redcliffe, which she holds on a margin of 6.1%. Kerri-Anne Dooley, founding director of a home care nursing firm, will make her fifth attempt to win the seat for the LNP. The Australian reports Corinne Mulholland, former federal candidate for Petrie and now in-house lobbyist for Star casinos, is the favoured candidate of Steven Miles, “but several sources say she is reluctant to stand”.
• The southern Brisbane seat of Mansfield, held for Labor by Corrine McMillan on a margin of 6.8%, will be contested for the LNP by Pinky Singh, Indian-born public relations consultant, Order of Australia medal recipient and candidate for McConnel in 2020.
• James Ashby, high-profile adviser to Pauline Hanson, will be One Nation’s candidate in Keppel, which the party came within 3.1% of winning on 2017. Brittany Lauga holds the seat for Labor with a margin of 5.6% over the LNP.
Can we please keep this thread for discussion of Queensland. The open thread for general discussion is here.
This shows that a win for the LNP at this year’s election is anything but assured. Right now barring some disastrous event for Labor an LNP best case would be minority government. Past experience shows that the LNP is incapable of holding this kind thing together, especially in Qld where quite a number of freewheeling, offbeat types wear the LNP colours. The other scenario is voters starting to remember the dead set chaos and bedlam of the Newman years ,realising the same team from then is still in the offing and vote the devil they know once more.
Is there any kind of regional break down of results, as that’ll be key to seat distribution.
Very good news indeed for Labor in QLD. I’ve always thought that if the LNP were an absolute shoo-in in October then they should be 54/55/56% 2PP. People will never, ever, forget or forgive Newman either. He single handidly ruined the public service in 2.5 years and went after innocent civilians with his VLAD laws. The same bunch of troglodytes from the Nationals are still there as well as the leftovers from the Newman ministry. People don’t trust them and I certainly don’t either. I’m actually prediciting a hung parliament with Labor and LNP roughly equal on seats and the balance of power lying with the loopy Greens, racist One Nation, The Mad Katters and the few Independents who will get up.
I must say Channel 9, Channel 7, ABC, Sky News etc. will be losing their proverbial minds at the moment. Their relentless attacking of the Labor government up here has been nothing short of embarrassing and attrocious. Night after night they parade Crissafulli around like he’s the saviour we need. The guy LOST his seat in Townsville only to resurrect in the seat neighbouring me. They hate him in Townsville and from what I hear it’s only party loyalty that forces the self funded retirees and over 65’s to vote for him on the Northern Gold Coast. He has no policies whatsoever to solve any of the major issues (i.e. Youth Crime, Health) and if he gets in he’ll abolish the mining royalties and there will be a ginormous hole in the states budget. He will then be forced to cut, sack or sell his way out of trouble.
Both primary votes are really low, but the LNP would have to be worried by their primary vote in regional areas. To win government, they are probably going to have to turn a lot of the marginal ALP seats in the big regional centres like Townsville, Mackay and Rockhampton. The ALP has shed support, but the LNP hasn’t converted that into a change in voting intention.
The LNP is going to need to start providing some policy plans to win the election. They need to convince the electorate they have a plan to fix things. The ALP has looked like they are listening to people’s concerns for the first time in years.
Interesting poll- though polls come and go….
However- this was a U Comms poll for the Courier Mail. Hmm, wonder how it is going to spin this result?
An observer would wonder, given the total support the Merdeocracy and the 9,7 and 2 channels give the LNP in Qld, how there has been a change since December’s polling.
Has Anna’s departure, Miles’ rise , the retirement of some key AP supporters in the Cabinet and various policy announcements worked positively for an incumbent government?
Could it be that the incessant pro- LNP chatter in the media is washing-out in the State, particularly in the progressive SE corner?
The upcoming by- elections result may show something of interest for the pundits.
These two are for safe Labor seats, so a loss here will be extremely unlikely.
What will be of interest is if there are by- election swings away from the Government.
The LNP will be hoping that a swing away from Labor will give then ammunition for their ” tired government” strategy. But one would have to think such a swing would have to be in the 3-4% area- and that’s a tall order.
Crisafulli is probably the LNPs best chance at power, and Miles, once seen as a loose- cannon and clown , is pulling back Crisafulli’s lead.
Not a great poll result for the LNP.
Again, one poll, but the LNP need to be pulling away over the next polls.
QLD Labor would be pleased with this poll relative to previous.
If it is this close the Greens and /or any potential Teals could be decisive.
I believe that a LNP minority, whether in formal coalition with ON and/or KAP, or just on confidence and supply, would be a most intriguing possibility.
We nearly had a NP-Lib-ON government way back in 1998 but Peter Wellington played spoiler and gave the election to Labor. If such a combination eventuates it will be fascinating to watch, even in the relatively short time between their coronation and the subsequent Federal election, due in autumn next year at the latest.
A major problem for Labor in Qld is their abject failure to address the burgeoning problem of youth crime which is spiralling out of control.
This one factor may well be the difference between winning and losing the next election.
I shake my head at interstate bludgers who try to tell me it is all nonsense and that stats show crime is down in Qld. I call BS to that. You obviously have no idea.
Just yesterday, we got the news of the sentencing of two under-age thugs in Brisbane.
They were two of a gang of four youths (then 13 to 16yo) who broke into one woman’s home, seriously assaulted her, stole her car and drove to the home of (60 test veteran) Australian Rugby legend Toutai Kefu. The gang all carried weapons and agreed before entering the house that if anyone woke up they would stab them.
Kefu’s wife woke first and was slashed with a sickle by the home invaders. Kefu coming to her aid was stabbed and bashed with life threatening injuries. The two Kefu children (21 and 18) also woke and were both slashed. A neighbour hearing the commotion came to help and also was seriously injured.
One of the two sentenced yesterday was already on bail at the time of the incident. On being arrested for this very serious violent crime he was a bailed again where-upon he proceeded to commit further home break-ins.
These out-of-control murderous thugs were sentenced to 30 months detention with only 15 months to actually be served (so time already served only). Also, no convictions were recorded.
WTF. What sort of sick justice system is this.
The victims are still suffering from their injuries (physical and psychological) while the thugs are patted on the head and sent on their way to do it all again.
Sad for the victims.
Sad for the hard working police who put their lives on the line every day to try to protect us.
Sad for the community who must continue to live in fear.
The above is only one example of what is going on, and not atypical.
Only two weeks ago Vyleen White, a 70yo grandmother, was stabbed to death by a 15yo who hijacked her car at Redbank Plains. Her young granddaughter witnessed the murder.
Just over twelve months ago Emma Lovell (41yo mother) was stabbed to death and her husband stabbed in the back when they disturbed two young intruders in a home invasion at North Lakes in Brisbane.
In this case one of the youths was on parole from a previous home invasion/serious stabbing incident where the victim says the youth was out of gaol before he was out of hospital.
These are only a few of all too numerous examples.
In my own street, we lived for 15 years with barely an incident (one burglary about 6 years ago, not involving youth offenders, at a neighbour’s place while the family were away.)
In the last few years there have been dozens of incidents just in our small street all involving youth gangs. We have had four robberies and attempted robberies at our house alone in the last 18 months.
Most recently, about four months ago, I was confronted at 4.00am by three masked youths trying to break into the house through a sliding glass door. They only broke off and ran when my two adult sons joined me at the door screaming at them to f…….off.
I am not happy living under this kind of threat.
The Qld Labor government is absolutely tone deaf in regard to the concerns of innocent citizens who only want to feel safe in their own homes.
My views are shared by many of my neighbours (both Labor and LNP supporters).
If this government won’t take action, the voters will at the ballot box.
Sorry for the lengthy post, but I have had a gutful.
As someone who was somewhat sceptical about how Miles would go as Premier (he always struck me as a nice guy and an skilled minister, but also somewhat ill-disciplined and gaffe-prone) I have to say that I have been very pleased with the direction the government has gone since he took office. The channel country protections – which many of us had been advocating for internally for years – have made me especially happy.
The upcoming election will be a fight, no doubt, but then they always are in Queensland. I’m cautiously hopeful we can get over the line once again.
e.g.w.
Youth crime is a very real issue in parts of Queensland, and the victims have every right to be angry and fed up with the situation, but I’m really not sure what more the government is supposed to be doing about it than they already are.
“Forget stats, here’s some anecdotes that prove exactly what I feel. You all have no idea, while me, who ignores statistics and reality, can use my anecdotes and remain smug in my superiority”.
Yawn. Pro-LNP feelpinions.
Asha,
First and foremost, get them off the street so people can feel safer.
Once they are off the street, then worry about addressing the issues that cause them to become violent criminals.
Happy for tax payers to fund recovery/education programs or whatever to try to civilise them. Dedicated detention centres where they can acquire skills/qualifications through apprenticeships/traineeships or other education to give them a leg up to worthwhile employment opportunities. Also programs to address family/abuse issues etc is fine.
Just don’t let them back on the street until they have been socialised and equipped for normal law abiding life outside.
I know, easier said than done; but we can’t have them running amok destroying innocent lives in the mean time.
Gonna make a prediction just for fun. Labor minority with Robbie Katter in the outer ministry. Greens provide confidence/supply but no other commitment.
bobsays:
Friday, February 23, 2024 at 12:22 pm
“Forget stats, here’s some anecdotes that prove exactly what I feel. You all have no idea, while me, who ignores statistics and reality, can use my anecdotes and remain smug in my superiority”.
Yawn. Pro-LNP feelpinions.
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Actually, well aware of how stats can be manipulated to suit any argument.
Whereas my “feelpinions” are based on first-person knowledge and facts.
Also, hardly LNP. Have been (a long time ago) an endorsed ALP candidate and have never in 50 years of voting preferenced an LNP candidate in front of an ALP candidate. However, that might be about to change.
egw : I can appreciate your anger but what will the LNP do differently to stop these people who don’t care about the consequences of the law? Last time it was boot camps that were a joke and pink outfits for bikies. And they will also very likely sell assets look after their rich mates and most likely sack government workers and cut services. In the wash up we have no idea of what they’ll do other than reckon they will be tough on crime but what does that even mean in reality? We may get all of the bad stuff and crime might not change one bit.
My prediction is Labor returned with an increased majority – gaining at least 5 seats.
@ egw 1157 am
Sorry to hear your stories about crime, particularly youth crime, in your part of Qld. I agree this trend is concerning. Police numbers could be increased but there are only so much even increased police numbers can do.
Unfortunately, it’s easy to stand back and just blame the government for these legal, judicial , sociological and behavioural problems. The reality is that police enforcement is only one piece of the problem. You comment about “sick justice”. A major issue with youth sentencing is, on one hand, concerning because nobody wants to see juveniles locked up in watchouses or in main -stream jails, but certain political parties see increased sentencing as a solution.
The experts tell us jailing offenders exposes them to other, probably more hardened inmates. Nobody wants immature, easy- influenced juvenile offenders in that situation.
Is building more jails, or detention centres specifically for persistent juvenile offenders the answer? History, particularly of this country, tells us more prisons and harsher sentencing does not work.
The absolute reality is that the whole issue is complex, and a change of government is not the one-size- fits-all solution.
Building more prisons is extremely expensive, takes lot of time, even after sites are selected. Drop in the sarcastically- titled ” NIMBY reaction” and that adds to the problem.
The present government is well aware of these issues, and obviously would wish it to go away, electorally speaking . It is always easy for an Opposition to make this issue a potential vote winner, but they need to come up with solutions better than increased sentencing, more ( future) jails and changes to judicial choices.
If the LNP wins, they not only inherit the problems, but are saddled with the above options, as are the present Government.
I appreciate your views and strong feelings, as does anyone who lives here, or indeed anywhere in Australia. I too have experience with break-ins in my street and suburb.
But any solution must be acceptable to all of the community, with input from all involved.
Beware of any politician, of any Party, who claims to have the answer to a complex problem.
At present, no such solutions are being presented by the Opposition.
It’s hard not to be cynical when it comes to politicians.
Perth had a break in problem like Qld until one of the trespassers went out in a body bag.
Almost overnight the issue faded.
I believe that a LNP minority, whether in formal coalition with ON and/or KAP, or just on confidence and supply, would be a most intriguing possibility.
We nearly had a NP-Lib-ON government way back in 1998 but Peter Wellington played spoiler and gave the election to Labor. If such a combination eventuates it will be fascinating to watch, even in the relatively short time between their coronation and the subsequent Federal election, due in autumn next year at the latest.
@MelbourneMammoth
You suggesting Peter Wellington was ‘playing spoiler’ forming a minority government with Labor is rewriting history. There were Liberals figures including Jeff Kennett and Peter Costello. That publicly warned National leader Rob Borbidge to not even think about cobbling together a minority government with One Nation. The simple fact is that government wouldn’t have lasted. One Nation were fighting amongst themselves that whole term. And the remaining MP’s quit the party and either formed a new party or became independents. Wellington was left with no choice but to form a minority government with Labor.
Youth crime in Qld ( and Australia) may be solved by L/NP Crucifooli.
First, wind back the clock a decade or two and take back the Federal Govt grant of $5000 for having a kid. The plasma TV youth are now past their parents use by date.
Next, reverse the refugee position of taking youngsters from camps in Africa with no schooling or understanding of our society norms. Attitude is what’s yours is mine.
Our first Nations youth fail to meet most of the bridging the gap measures successive Govts have worked on. An uneducated citizen has next to no chance of getting a job in this electronic age. No money, no future.
Magistrates are reluctant to put youth in custody. The backlash if a 10 or 12 year old female is imprisoned for stealing would be substantial even for repeat offender.
Maybe build many new prisons for under 18s. Maybe jail their parents. Maybe allow vigilante groups. Maybe give no flexibility to the legal profession, ie crime = prison.
Bit too hard for Crucifooli.
Gettysburg1863: “An observer would wonder, given the total support the Merdeocracy and the 9,7 and 2 channels give the LNP in Qld, how there has been a change since December’s polling.”
An observer would wonder, given the total support the Merdeocracy give the LNP in Qld, how Labor has won 11 of the last 12 elections.
I guess the Courier-Mail spins a tale full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Melbourne Mammoth: “We nearly had a NP-Lib-ON government way back in 1998 but Peter Wellington played spoiler and gave the election to Labor.”
What you mean ‘we’, Paleface?
pied piper says:
“Perth had a break in problem like Qld …”
Queensland has a ‘break-in problem’?
Please explain?
joeldipops says:
“Gonna make a prediction just for fun. Labor minority with Robbie Katter in the outer ministry. Greens provide confidence/supply but no other commitment.”
That may not be far off the mark.
e.g.w.: “… the burgeoning problem of youth crime which is spiralling out of control.”
[citation needed]
“I shake my head at interstate bludgers who try to tell me it is all nonsense and that stats show crime is down in Qld. I call BS to that.”
This intrastate Bludger calls BS on you.
Blockquotes,
“As someone who was somewhat sceptical about how Miles would go as Premier (he always struck me as a nice guy and an skilled minister, but also somewhat ill-disciplined and gaffe-prone) I have to say that I have been very pleased with the direction the government has gone since he took office. ”
Yes, same here. I am not sure he’s shaken the image, but policy-wise they are moving in good directions on several fronts. I had a very small role in framing the Jobs and Energy Plan, and know one of the ministers involved with its development pretty well. This policy has been well thought-through, and actions from it will be rolled out regularly over the next 6 months (e.g. the batteries manufacturing policy announced today).
There will be a lot of positives for Miles et al to talk about.
@ Oliver Sutton 201pm
Yes. The CM spins the usual mix of LNP misinformation, dissembling and rumour- mill gossip masquerading as journalism. I haven’t read it for years but friends of mine who follow the maxim of ” know your enemy” tell me nothing’s changed.
Apart from regional Qld where reading the rag is inbred, especially on outlying properties where the SM is routinely picked up on the Sunday trip to town, I doubt the Courier has much influence anymore, apart from rusted- ons, some seniors and maybe the freebies casually picked up in coffee shops. My brothers trick on Sunday is to buy coffees and read the magazine inserts . He ignores the Hardly Normal and the Chemist Warehouse inserts and the rest of the paper.
But it is the TV news that is persistent and frequent. One night, out of boredom, I watched 7 News and counted Crisafulli appearing with criticism of the Government, 4 times…..
As I said in an earlier post, I wonder whether this constant exposure is wearing out viewers , especially in SE Qld. Viewers disengage often when pollies come on, especially with the mandatory ” noddies” standing behind them.
So yes, your stats about election results are pertinent. The LNP has for so long relied on the media to back them up, and provide free exposure.
Another loss for the LNP Opposition, that is, failure to win a majority , or even a minority, would be to label it as unable to win elections.
Will be very interesting .
Thanks, Gettysburg.
The Coalition’s previous solution to its string of defeats was a shotgun marriage of the (dominant) Nationals and (sideshow) Liberals.
That worked spectacularly well … until it didn’t.
For their next trick: a divorce?
Oliver – Paleface? How lofty of the Left to resort to anti-white racism. And especially of the White Left to be racist to their own race – almost unique in the world.
On youth crime, I’m sure it is an issue in some parts of Australia, including Qld. Nevertheless, overall, a “crime problem” is almost always a beat up in any election campaign. Crime is the go-to policy area for an opposition without a policy and wanting to avoid a policy debate with their opponent.
Most crime is committed by juvenile males and young men under 30. Historically, crime rates, including violent crime, were much higher in the past when there was a higher proportion of young people in the population. Violent crime rates have been declining since the 1990s.
https://theconversation.com/australias-homicide-rate-is-down-over-50-from-the-1990s-despite-a-small-blip-during-covid-202730.
So where there are more youth, there will be more crime. Where those youth are poor, without jobs and in a minority that just got told their race should not be recognised in the nation’s constitution, I’m not surprised there is a problem. But I doubt Stephen Miles can solve it any more than the LNP can.
Nightwatchman: You suggesting Peter Wellington was ‘playing spoiler’ forming a minority government with Labor is rewriting history.
– Well either way, had the Liberals won 1-2 more seats, a NP-Lib-ON minority government was the only viable government that could have been formed. And that would have been absolutely fascinating to watch. As Labor would have not been able to get to enough seats and they would have been even less likely to accept the support of ON than the NP.
Nonetheless Pauline got the genie out of the bottle and it’s a scenario Queensland will forever have to watch out for in the foreseeable future.
Hey Oliver, yes it’s me again….
A divorce would be interesting . It would be of course a sham divorce, for they’d jump back into the marital bed if between them they got enough seats to cobble together a Coalition agreement. As Joh B-P used to say ” don’t you worry about that”.
Benefits of two Parties is that the Libs could spend their funds fighting for coastal or urban seats, and let the Nats concentrate on regional seats.
Undoubtedly there would be friction underlying the agreement, especially depending on who won the most seats. The Nats would fight hook, line and sinker over Mining, Energy, Transport and anything they regarded as legitimately their sphere of influence. The reborn Libs would worry about their urban seats with the Nats running widdershins over any” progressive” policies the Libs need to keep their urban voters happy. On past history, likely to be another “one term wonder”.
But the Nats can’t win in their own right, without resort to gerrymandering that would even make the ghost of Joh pale. They need the Libs, for better or worse- which is exactly what they’ve right now.
And you can bet that, given that possibility, both Dutton and Littleproud would get involved. Oh to be a fly on the wall!
I’m another one who was very dubious about Miles but has been relatively impressed so far.
His decision to introduce himself as Premier by promising significant climate change efforts is one of the rare times I’ve thought of a governing Labor leader “this is really admirable but seems politically insane”, so it’s good to see he hasn’t been punished for it.
It’s sad that they’re facing a neverending deluge of delusional rage from people like e.g.w. – you can’t send troubled, violent youth off to crime school, isolate them from any healthy supports and introduce them to a whole bunch of scary new friends, and then fantasise about how you’ll totally rehabilitate them there. It doesn’t work, and it creates more crime. And the kind of supports that actually steer at-risk kids away from trouble inevitably lose out to policies that drive up the crime rate instead because of this nonsense.
Well, to be fair, it came very close to that in 1998. It was down to 83 votes in Mansfield, 191 votes in Springwood and 230 votes in Barron River and if those went the other way then indeed it would have been a likely National-Liberal-One Nation government with 23 Nationals, 12 Liberals and 11 ON’s, with 41 Labor opposing and 2 Independents on the crossbench.
Such a mess of a government would have likely quickly collapsed given how unstable the Queensland state One Nation party was at the time. For instance the One Nation member for Mulgrave Charles Rappolt resigned after only 4 months, and sadly committed suicide after several attempts in the following year.
My prediction is Labor returned with an increased majority – gaining at least 5 seats.???
Remembering the Newman government- make that SIX !
And my $175.00 dollars off my electricity bill for 3 quarters !!!!
As for seat predictions, all I can come up with at the moment is that the winning party will likely have less than 50 seats.
It’s all very much up in the air at the moment, but it should settle down with a clearer picture around August-September when the campaign starts. And also after how the NT election goes in August.
Can the LNP fix the “youth crime problem”? I don’t know, and if you don’t know vote no – to the LNP.
Does anyone honestly believe LNP will do any better than Labor? Really? Explain how and I’ll eat my hat. Can’t risk David “Christ he’s full of it” and the inevitable budget cuts, sackings of public servants and sell offs of public assets. Once they end the mining royalties: Where will the money come from?
@Mickus
While there isn’t currently much polling data to back it up, I think it may be a bit too optimistic to hope that Labor will hold all of its marginal seats in North Queensland cities like Cairns and Townsville, so the LNP are likely to make some gains there.
However, if the polling is indeed 50-50, Labor may be able to hold its marginal Brisbane seats after all that, maybe even win some marginal LNP seats in that area, enough to remain being the biggest party. Plus the Greens and Katter’s party may be more positively disposed to them, in Katter’s case if they think the LNP want to go ahead with a Newman-like program.
@Kirsdarke
I think once the Labor machine kicks into gear in August and we get boots on the ground in Brisbane, Logan and Northern GC, we will hold on to the marginals and possibly be competitive in Coomera.
The LNP forming government with Katter MPs is one thing, but if there is deal with ONP MPs then things start to become very damaging for the LNP brand. It might one of those cases where it is better to not form government (knowing the other team is going to struggle and then force an early election via a blockage in parliament when they are on the ropes).
Knowing one nation they’d end up doing a deal with someone who gets revealed to be a neo-nazi the week after the election.
MelbourneMammoth says:
“Oliver – Paleface?”
It’s the punchline of an old joke — like, schooldays-sixty-years-ago old — that must have passed you by. Maybe humour wasn’t part of your upbringing. (That could explain a lot …)
If you Google ‘Lone Ranger Tonto Paleface’ you’ll find many hits that explain it (it’s known around the world).
If there’s any racism in the punchline, it’s entirely on Tonto’s part. Which is kinda the point of the joke.
For me, it seemed an appropriate riposte to someone who styles himself ‘Melbourne’ while presuming to employ the royal ‘we’ when posting about Queensland.
The LNP wheels keep falling off:
‘The LNP this week disendorsed candidate Brock Alexander for the upcoming Brisbane City Council election.
‘It alleges he supplied the party “fraudulent personal background checks”, an allegation Mr Alexander denies and says he will sue them over.’
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-23/lnp-makes-complaint-to-police-about-brock-alexander/103500862
A divorce would be interesting . It would be of course a sham divorce, for they’d jump back into the marital bed if between them they got enough seats to cobble together a Coalition agreement.
I know de-merger has been floating around the LNP. The problem with it is that breaking the parties up. It would put the Liberals and the Nationals in a vulnerable position financially. Particularly the Liberals it was reported. After the last state election, those in the LNP agitating for a de-merger were not pushing very hard for it. Which may be a sign that some in the party have moved on from it.
‘How lofty of the Left to resort to anti-white racism. And especially of the White Left to be racist to their own race – almost unique in the world.’
Own up now, Mammoth: you’re a parody account, aren’t you? 🙂
@Political Nightwatchman
That is true. The Queensland Liberals and Nationals had quite a rocky relationship in their time, especially from 1983-1992 where they basically ran against each other everywhere. And then I recall after that there was always the prickly question in the 2000’s, “If you win government, who will be Premier?” since for the Coalition to beat Labor would likely mean a lot more Liberal gains than National gains, and that caused a pause for voters at the 2004 and 2006 elections in particular.
Kirksdarke: “The Queensland Liberals and Nationals had quite a rocky relationship in their time, especially from 1983-1992 where they basically ran against each other everywhere.”
Not least from 1983 – 1986, when Joh enticed two Liberal rats* to defect, securing the Nationals a majority in their own right, and relegating the Liberals to the crossbench.
* Don Lane and Brian Austin were later jailed for corruption. What goes around comes around … sometimes.