The News Corp Sunday papers yesterday carried a Freshwater Strategy poll showing 50-50 on two-party preferred, from primary votes of Labor 31%, Coalition 39%, Greens 14% and others 15%. This is very similar to results the same pollster produced for the Financial Review last month, differing only in that the Greens were on 13% and others 16%. The poll was conducted last Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 1007.
News Corp’s coverage was incomplete with respect to voting intention and focused on attitudinal findings: that 81% said the government was not doing enough about the cost of living, 51% said the country was headed in the wrong direction, 51% expected “green measures” would increase power costs, and that while 52% said they would vote yes to a republic, 55% did not think a referendum should be held “now”. The utility of these numbers is limited by the News Corp report’s lack of detail on contrary and uncommitted responses, on which I can shed no further light.
In other news, Labor and Liberal have both confirmed their candidates for the Dunkley by-election, expected to be held late February at the soonest. Labor’s candidate is Jodie Belyea, manager of a foundation that provides tertiary scholarships for disadvantaged women, who was endorsed by the party’s national executive with backing from the Socialist Left faction. For the Liberals, Frankston mayor Nathan Conroy was chosen yesterday from a ballot of local party members with a reported 89 votes, against 40 for former state MP Donna Hope and 25 for Bec Buchanan.
MacArthur begged me for a Christmas truce but still likes to take pot shots.
“ MacArthur begged me for a Christmas truce but still likes to take pot shots.”
Sounds Ukrainian. … or Russian. … hard to tell.
nath @ Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:30 am:
“MacArthur begged me for a Christmas truce but still likes to take pot shots.”
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Nath, you misunderstand me. They were by far my favourite characters on that show. You don’t like being a character I look forward to tuning in to watch?
Andrew_Earlwood @ Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:34 am
“MacArthur begged me for a Christmas truce but still likes to take pot shots.”
“Sounds Ukrainian. … or Russian. … hard to tell.”
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“I couldn’t possibly comment.”
– F. Urquhart.
But – good one! 😆
There was a time when politicians acted so as not to incite crime, but I speak of an earlier, wiser era.
Meanwhile Peter Dutton throws his patriotic vitriol at Woolworths, and vandals follow suite on their store.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-15/qld-graffiti-woolworths-australia-day-boycott-peter-dutton/103319654
nath @ #94 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 11:20 am
Is that so, nath? I love it when you tell me all about myself, when you have nfi. 😐
Just so you can have a spray at me. Obviously you haven’t learned your lesson from the last banning, as you edge closer and closer in that direction again.
If you really want to know what sort of man I was referencing as being attractive to females generally, then this is a very good example and one who looks a lot like my own late husband:
I guess I can only assume that you made the comment that you did because Nathan Conroy resembles you.
‘Socrates says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:40 am
There was a time when politicians acted so as not to incite crime, but I speak of an earlier, wiser era.
Meanwhile Peter Dutton throws his patriotic vitriol at Woolworths, and vandals follow suite on their store.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-15/qld-graffiti-woolworths-australia-day-boycott-peter-dutton/103319654‘
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Yep.
C@tmomma, in all seriousness, it was the casual, gratuitous sexualisation of female involvement in politics in Taylormade’s little drive-by this morning which had me shaking my head.
Macarthur @ #108 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 11:53 am
Yes, like women voters are such airheads that they will vote for a candidate based purely on their looks. I wouldn’t even believe that of Liberal-voting women.
Macarthur,
I couldn’t find that story you asked about on the ABC website either. 🙁
Though I do note that I saw that there was a very large fire in a warehouse yesterday in Russia. 🙂
Has Peter Dutton come out and condemned this wanton vandalism yet? I mean it was his words that were the progenitor of this act:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-15/qld-graffiti-woolworths-australia-day-boycott-peter-dutton/103319654
On Dutton and Woolies, there is the law of unintended consequences. I have an elderly relative who spent much of our Saturday afternoon barbecue trying to convince us all to ditch Woolies. He had basically no success as far as I could see. The point is that he has swallowed this rubbish hook line and sinker, but equally, would eat erupting lava before he ever voted Liberal. So, Dutton may find that he will reap little from his 1930’s-Germany-era vilification of a specific business, other than to direct some otherwise random acts of thuggery towards certain grocery shoppers and workers. Sample of one, so usual caveats apply.
C@tmomma @ Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:57 am:
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C@tmomma, that’s okay. I ended up biting the bullet and linking it myself at 8:22am, with apologies to William and a request to delete it if he objected.
But in which variety?
marquelawyers@marquelawyers
Suspect found hiding in the potato bin
Brisbane Woolworths store vandalised with graffiti amid Australia Day merchandise controversy https://abc.net.au/news/2024-01-15/qld-graffiti-woolworths-australia-day-boycott-peter-dutton/103319654?utm_campaign=abc_news_web&utm_content=twitter&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_source=abc_news_web
via @ABCaustralia
My local Woolworths in ultra-marginal Sturt seems to be busy as usual.
G’day bludgers!
A_E,
I think the strategy of announcing a set of “S4” tax change is sound, but for purely political reasons Labor shouldn’t touch the S3 changes.
I was also thinking a raise in the tax-free threshold would be a clear point of difference to the Libs. It could easily be funded through reductions to or limitations on tax exemptions like franking credits. These complementary changes could form the basis of good S4 income tax reform.
Also, has anyone seen analysis on the effects of S3 on negative gearing benefits on investment properties? My guess is that the future beneficiaries of the S3 changes and current beneficiaries of NG would be fairly coincident, such that the headline loss in tax revenue from the S3 changes will be somewhat offset by reductions in NG and other tax expenditures.
Much as it causes me brain-smouldering agony to defend Peter Dutton, he did not incite any crime. He called for a consumer boycott, which is his lawful democratic right.
Although it’s surprising, because I didn’t think he was in favour of cancel culture. Maybe it’s not cancel culture when it’s a Liberal doing it.
C@tmomma @ Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:59 am:
“Has Peter Dutton come out and condemned this wanton vandalism yet? I mean it was his words that were the progenitor of this act:
“A Brisbane Woolworths store has been vandalised after the supermarket chain’s decision to stop selling specific Australia Day merchandise.
The Woolworths Metro Teneriffe store on Commercial Road was closed this morning after it was spray painted with profanities, and a flare was placed under the door triggering the fire alarm.
Police were called to the store around 5am, and three Queensland Fire and Emergency Services (QFES) crews attended the scene.
The graffiti written on the exterior of the supermarket store read “5 days 26 Jan Aussie Oi Oi Woolies F*** U”, and the words “Boycott Woolies” was spray painted on the entrance doors.
A crime scene has been declared and Queensland police are investigating.”
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Will anyone ask Peter Dutton whether he fully condemns this dangerous and threatening act of thuggery upon people carrying on their perfectly lawful business? Will anyone ask him whether he fully backs the Queensland Police in investigating this crime and bringing the perpetrators to justice? Maybe someone could also find out whether he ever, during his time as a Queensland copper, arrested any indigenous youths for similar crimes, and if so, how he used his discretion to deal with them, either before, during or after arrest?
A former QLD police officer is promoting vandalism of commercial premises by virtue of his call to boycott a business because of a decision based on the free market principles of supply and demand.
Soharsays:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:03 pm
But in which variety?
marquelawyers@marquelawyers
Suspect found hiding in the potato bin
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Yes very suspicious. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of spud DNA is recovered from the crime scene.
EightES says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:07 pm
Much as it causes me brain-smouldering agony to defend Peter Dutton, he did not incite any crime. He called for a consumer boycott, which is his lawful democratic right.
Although it’s surprising, because I didn’t think he was in favour of cancel culture. Maybe it’s not cancel culture when it’s a Liberal doing it.
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He did go against his own party policy in calling for a boycott/ protest
Have to agree with EightES on the significant difference between calling for a boycott and inciting violence. Unfortunately it was inevitable that some idiot would do what this idiot did once Woolworths made their decision. Wouldn’t have hurt Woolies to have one less bin of Easter buns and carry a few Aussie flags etc.
EightES @ #117 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 12:07 pm
Of course, Peter Dutton didn’t call for violence specifically. Did Donald Trump on January 6? However, the appeal via his words is to the more ‘excitable’ elements in our population.
Dave from Waggasays:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:09 pm
A former QLD police officer is promoting vandalism of commercial premises by virtue of his call to boycott a business because of a decision based on the free market principles of supply and demand.
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I assume under a potential Dutton lead Government the following will prevail:
“We will decide what retailers stock in this country and the circumstances in which these items must be stocked”
davidwh @ #122 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 12:23 pm
Prefer the Easter Buns. At least they aren’t plastic tat Made in China with fossil fuels and which end up not in landfill but filling your tummy instead.
Dutton in calling for a boycott would have known it would make trouble and tensions would rise into a possibility of threats against woolworths employees or the company it self
Scott
Dutton would start division in an empty room. Becoming the Trump of Australia.
If it was someone from palestine in Australia , calling for Australians to boycott woolworths
The lib/nats propaganda media units would go into overdrive , accusing the call to boycott ,a call for hate
Labor has the support it needs in the Senate to do more – beyond the admirable progress it is making – to reduce emissions in Australia, but is declining to do so.
It’s a neat trick to complain that not enough is being done to curtail emissions while refraining from criticising the government you support when it’s within that government’s capacity to do more.
An even neater trick to denounce those who do level such criticisms as ‘wreckers’.
Andrew_Earlwood @ #97 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 11:25 am
Ooh look. Another insulting obsessive – even when he is agreeing with me he just can’t help himself.
” Unfortunately it was inevitable that some idiot would do what this idiot did once Woolworths made their decision. ”
Can’t agree with you there, davidWH.
The words in the vandalism echo Dutton’s; he owns them.
steve davis @ #127 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 12:28 pm
I don’t know why he thinks that Trumpism will transfer so readily from America to Australia. Was he not around from 2016-2020 when poll after poll in Australia demonstrated the extent to which Australians didn’t like Donald Trump? Or in 2022, when his own government, which had cosied up to Trump, was defeated handily and one installed that was the antithesis of a Trumpy Administration?
Socratessays:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 9:06 am
“You raise a good question on the Taipan helicopters. Burying them makes no sense as most are still airworthy”.
I’m not so sure that they are airworthy. The cause of the last crash has yet to be confirmed publicly and any remediation works if it was a technical issue have not been completed.
It would be a political disaster to send them to Ukraine and have them falling out the sky over there.
davo says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 9:25 am
“1007 is an absolute pathetic polling size to get a response they want…”
No, it isn’t. I’m not going o give you a lesson in statistics except to say it is about the normal size of most Australian political polling. You can so your own learning on statistical significance, confidence intervals, margins of error etc. Good luck.
The Federal Court has dismissed a Tiwi Islanders’ challenge against Santos’ $5.8 billion gas pipeline in the Timor Sea.
The legal challenge brought by Jikilaruwu traditional owner Simon Munkara against Adelaide-based Santos was dismissed today, with costs awarded to the gas giant.
Munkara lodged civil enforcement proceedings in the Federal Court in October against Santos over its Barossa gas export pipeline, saying that cultural heritage would be at risk by its construction.
He asked the court for an immediate short-term injunction to prevent Santos from beginning work to install its Barossa export pipeline, as well as a wider injunction to prevent the work going ahead until Santos had revised its environmental plan, so that the pipeline’s impact and risk to underwater cultural heritage are properly assessed.
Justice Natalie Charlesworth granted the emergency interim injunction, stopping work from beginning on the pipeline, just hours before it was due to start in early November. After a further hearing in November Justice Charlesworth granted a partial interim injunction to restrain work on the pipeline, except for in an area about 75km north of the Tiwi Islands and further.
FUBARsays:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:42 pm
Socratessays:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 9:06 am
“You raise a good question on the Taipan helicopters. Burying them makes no sense as most are still airworthy”.
I’m not so sure that they are airworthy. The cause of the last crash has yet to be confirmed publicly and any remediation works if it was a technical issue have not been completed.
It would be a political disaster to send them to Ukraine and have them falling out the sky over there.
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So if they stop flying their soviet designed MI-28 helicopters and fly Taipans instead it will be far less safe for them?. When you were in the military i hope you weren’t the health and safety officer is all i can say to that dribble.
My 2008 Corolla doesn’t have modern airbags so i want give it to my son. He will have to keep driving the P76 instead. Fubar logic for you.
You may be right Dandy but I still think there are idiots out there who don’t need any prompting from Dutton to do idiotic things. Australia Day always seems to bring out a wide variety of emotional words and actions.
Douglas and Milko @ #81 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 9:55 am
Nope
From Section 55 of the Constitution:
“Laws imposing taxation shall deal only with the imposition of taxation, and any provision therein dealing with any other matter shall be of no effect.”
davidwh says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:23 pm
Have to agree with EightES on the significant difference between calling for a boycott and inciting violence. Unfortunately it was inevitable that some idiot would do what this idiot did once Woolworths made their decision. Wouldn’t have hurt Woolies to have one less bin of Easter buns and carry a few Aussie flags etc
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I’ve given this some thought.
In this country you are free to sell Australia Day junk or not, as you wish. Proper leaders in this country is to calm tempers, not to excite them with false claims. The fact that Dutton did not do a Trump and explicitly incite violence should not be exculpatory. How many people would have known about Woolworth’s decision (which was NOT political) if not for the political and divisive slant given to it by Dutton?
It’s been a long time since Australians were told that it was divisive to recognise difference. Dutton is bringing it back and we’ll all suffer if we get away with it.
Frankly, the government should be sheeting this home directly to him.
I see Santos can lure almost anyone into their net…
C@tmommasays:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 11:56 am
Macarthur @ #108 Monday, January 15th, 2024 – 11:53 am
Yes, like women voters are such airheads that they will vote for a candidate based purely on their looks. I wouldn’t even believe that of Liberal-voting women.
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Which is the total opposite of what you said of Canadian women in relation to Justin Trudeau many years ago.
Any chance of some consistency.
Dutton and Trump same same.
davidwh says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:52 pm
You may be right Dandy but I still think there are idiots out there who don’t need any prompting from Dutton to do idiotic things. Australia Day always seems to bring out a wide variety of emotional words and actions.
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I’ve always felt there are thugs and nasties out there who look for any excuse for violence and vandalism.
I have always remembered the incredible anti-French sentiment in the community after the bombing of the Rainbow Warrior led to violence and vandalism against people and businesses suspected of being French, including true blue Aussie bakers who dared to give their establishments a bit of class by calling them “patisseries” in their signage.
It comes down to not providing the excuse for such conduct. Same with violence and vandalism against Jewish and Muslim targets at the moment. It is incredibly important for politicians to manage this potential for violence, rather than exacerbate it.
Holdenhillbilly says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:49 pm
“The Federal Court has dismissed a Tiwi Islanders’ challenge against Santos’ $5.8 billion gas pipeline in the Timor Sea.”
Sanity prevails.
I have no problem with Native Title holders identifying terrestrial sacred/historic sites and working with mining companies – but this one was ridiculous.
SANTOS was forced to run a public advertising campaign in Perth. There were radio and TV adds in Perth for potential claimants to come forward following the initial court rulings. Utterly ridiculous.
I see Stokes has his Sunrise host campaigning to keep both their massive S3 tax cuts.
Too bad for those affected by cuts to the NDIS and aged care.
Entropy says:
Monday, January 15, 2024 at 12:49 pm
It’s not about my personal opinion about safety.
“ I’m not so sure that they are airworthy. The cause of the last crash has yet to be confirmed publicly and any remediation works if it was a technical issue have not been completed.
It would be a political disaster to send them to Ukraine and have them falling out the sky over there.”
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Here’s a fun fact. Neither the Spitfire or Hurricane (or any British built ww2 fighter for that matter) was ever ‘airworthy’ according to US manufacturing specifications. Indeed there were numerous examples of aircraft failures, resulting in pilot deaths, that had nothing to do with the Luftwaffe. … and yet … there was no suggestion of removing these planes from service. Indeed, when Republic got around to considering designing ‘the next generation’ Mustang in 1944 the first thing they did was to ignore US Manufacturing standards and adopt British ones so as to reduce the weight of the plane (whilst the Mustang was a very slippery design – producing little parasitic drag and hence able to fly about 30mph faster than the spitfire at the same engine power outputs – in combat this advantage was reversed because it was about 500-800 pounds heavier & hence had a much higher induced drag- which is a major limiter in terms of ‘energy manoureability’). The resulting plane – the P51H – was about 500 pounds lighter (it also had water-methanol injection (WM50) which meant that the 266 packard Merlin went from 1760 bhp to 2200 bhp at ‘war emergency power’ setting. In effect the weight loss put the plane on par with Griffon Engined Spitfires (MK XIVs onwards) in terms of induced drag and available power went from about 20% below that of the Griffon spitfires to about 12% above it. But I digress. The P51H missed the war (just like the definitive Spitfire – Mk24).
Anyhoo, I think the Ukrainians have calculated that despite some question marks over the Taipan, like the BoB Spitfires and Hurricanes, it is ‘good enough’ for their present and urgent requirements. Certainly better than the available options.
I never take political vandalism in Australia at face value due to the high likelihood of false flag activities.
Q: He called for a consumer boycott, which is his lawful democratic right.
Didn’t his last govt try to outlaw this ‘democratic right’?
Bumper sticker:
Dutton, Grand Cancellor.