Essential Research’s fortnightly voting intention numbers, which include a 5% undecided component, have both Labor and the Coalition down a point on the primary vote, to 33% and 30% respectively, with the Greens steady on 14%, One Nation up one to 6% and the United Australia Party steady on 2%. The pollster’s 2PP+ measure has Labor up one to 53%, the Coalition down one to 42% and undecided steady on 5%. The poll includes has Anthony Albanese’s monthly personal ratings, on which he is down a point on approval to 52% and up one on disapproval to 35%.
Other findings from this fortnight’s survey include strong majority support for six proposed federal government measures to deal with the cost of living, ranging from 77% for electricity and gas price caps to 57% for changing industrial relations laws to make it easier for workers to negotiate pay rises. Fifty-four per cent now rate themselves as financially struggling or worse, up five since March, with 46% rating themselves comfortable or secure, down five. Asked how much impact federal government policies had on the cost of living, 31% chose a lot, 40% a little, 18% not that much and 5% hardly anything.
On climate change, 39% now rate that the government is not doing enough, down four from October and the lowest result this question has yielded going back to 2016, with doing enough up a point to 33% and doing too much up three to 16%. Fifty-one per cent support a national authority to manage the transition to renewable energy with 20% opposed, and 50% support government assessment of greenhouse gas emissions when considering new projects with 20% opposed, but only 34% support ending future coal and gas extraction projects with 35% opposed. Asked whether parliamentary approval should be required for a decision to go to war, the sample split 90-10 in favour of yes. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1133.
Also out yesterday was the latest Roy Morgan result, which had Labor’s two-party lead in from 57-43 to 54.5-45.5 from primary votes of Labor 34.5%, Coalition 34.5% and Greens 13%.
UPDATE: Also out this morning from The Australian is results from Newspoll on the Indigenous voice, which finds 54% in favour and 38% opposed, breaking down to 55-36 in New South Wales, 56-35 in Victoria, 49-43 in Queensland, 51-41 in Western Australia, 60-33 in South Australia and 55-39 in Tasmania. The results are aggregated from three polls conducted since the start of February, but sub-sample sizes are as low as 334 in the case of Tasmania, increasing to 1414 in the case of New South Wales.
leftieBrawler @ Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:57 pm:
“Enough already – I’ve read credible claims total Russian corpses are approaching 250k.
They go through them as if they are a country of the population of China or India as opposed to barely 100m these days with heavy net losses year to year of citizens since the 90s after the CCCP dissolution”
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leftieBrawler, I wouldn’t be surprised if actual Russian military deaths were much higher than the published official AFU KIA figures. These figures I post are solely ‘KIA’. They do not include WIA who may then die of their wounds behind the front lines. They also do not include troops who may have perished from exposure during the cold winter. They also do not include attempted deserters who are killed by Russian/Chechen ‘barrier troops’ deployed to the Russian rear. They also do not include those who commit suicide before or after engagement with AFU forces at the front. The true toll of Russian dead in this war is already shockingly horrific, and will only increase in tempo as Ukrainian units start puncturing or flanking the established Russian lines. Putin is shaping up to be the worst butcher of Russians since Stalin.
The mourners in the Rowe cartoon, I’m guessing left to right are:
– Michaela Cash
– Simon Birmingham
– Susssan Ley
– David Littleproud (with Barnyard having his back)
– Angus Taylor with folded arms
– Julian Leeser with very folded arms
Enough Already says:
leftieBrawler, I wouldn’t be surprised if actual Russian military deaths were much higher than the published official AFU KIA figures.
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I listened to an intercepted Russian call a few months back. The soldier informed the caller that 4 out of 120 men or so did not even make it out of basic training. I think one died of a heart attack, another soldier was raped by other soldiers and killed himself etc. So if that was indicative then it’s a few percent of troops who don’t even make it to battlefield.
“Melbourne mammoth you make me physically ill with a lot of your ridiculous claims about the impending come from nowhere LNP win at the next federal election. Even Lars would think alot of your LNP fairy tale predictions are BS.
Your BS high water mark was the other day during the NSW late counting with your deluded claims that the sworn in Minns ministry may have to have their commissions withdrawn by the Governor with some NSW LNP victory from a few thousand postals spread across several seats.”
LeftieBrawler – even though I am not on the opposite side of politics as you – I still find your retort, like plenty of the other posters here (which I won’t deign to name) highly patronizing and condescending. If you want to act like that then don’t post at all.
My point about the Coalition winning miraculously on postals was a bit facetious but in the end Labor only got 45 seats – well short of what was projected on election day. And in 2008 at the corresponding time of the first Rudd government they were polling higher than the Albanese government is now – and this was well BEFORE Abbott became LOTO so a much more centrist Liberal opposition. I stand by my statement that if something were to go really pear-shaped internally for Labor such as Shorten knifing his boss, their electoral capital will swiftly crumble and Dutton may well still become PM.
So there.
‘wranslide says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:21 pm
What is to be done Boerwar? Nothing? How is the Government going to pay for those unfunded defined pension liabilities? The flight of capital (whether it be individual or company) in response to modest tax increases is a vexxing problem. But in response to it is the solution to simply increase the tax burden on the rank and file PAYG earners who cannot flee the jurisdiction? Some would say they are already carrying a disproportionate load.’
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It may not seem like it but I am an advocate for higher taxes. My view is that this is fundamental to a fairer society and to a sustainable democracy.
The problem, as I see it, is how to persuade enough Australians that we need to pay more tax.
My view is that touting a tax on billionaires was not serious policy because anyone who has studied the history of taxing billionaires know what billionaires do. They bugger off. Capital flows are through very porous borders.
The Greens were stunting and selling snake oil to impressionable young voters.
Despite this, or perhaps because of this, the only party which promised to seriously increase tax had 88% of the Australian voters vote against them.
House taxation is difficult because 65% of Australians are owners or owner/buyers and another 10% probably reasonably aspire so to be.
Truth to tell, I am not sure what the solution is. The ACT has, in essence, introduced a wealth tax by way of property taxes. This is progressive by way of property valuations. I support this even though we are personally paying very high property taxes. There are two schools for kids with severe to very severe learning difficulties in our suburb. Every time I go past them I think to myself that I am glad that my property taxes are high. The enable us to be civilized.
sprocket_ says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:20 pm
Oh dear, could the Honourable Peter Dutton have just done a very dishonourable act? I would have expected this from Howard or Morrison, but Mr 26%?
Briefing notes from a Liberal Party meeting which preceded the formal declaration of the party’s “no” stance have suggested the party room position was different from that announced by opposition leader Peter Dutton. On Wednesday, Mr Dutton rejected the government’s proposal of a constitutionally enshrined national Voice, instead formalising the opposition’s preferred Voice model based on an acknowledgement of First Nations peoples in the constitution and legislated local and regional voices.
However according to Liberal Party briefing notes obtained by the Daily Telegraph Newspaper, the party’s position was to support a legislated national Voice, differing to what Mr Dutton told a press conference following the meeting where he said there was “resounding” opposition to a national Voice body from Liberal MPs.
Named “Liberal-Party-in-confidence”, the briefing note obtained by the Daily Telegraph suggested that if the party “is credibly to reject the government’s current model, it must provide an alternative”, with “a suite of measures” including constitutional recognition, a local and regional body and a legislated national body to be part of the opposition’s Voice proposal.
“The third pillar of the pro-posed alternative model is a commitment to a national bodyas (sic) and offering to develop such legislation on a bi-partisan basis in advance of the referendum,” the Liberal Party document states.
Multiple Liberal MPs suggested after the meeting they understood the party’s position to be supportive of a legislated national Voice, contrary to Mr Dutton’s announcement.
One Liberal MP said “obviously if you leave the room with that piece of paper and the leader has endorsed it then that’s what the position is – everyone thought that’s what the policy was,” the Telegraph reported.
Another commented on the outcome of the meeting, suggesting although Mr Dutton didn’t explicitly state the party’s support of a national legislated Voice, it was there in black and white.
“In these matters you go on the papers,” the MP said.
A third Liberal MP said it was “absolutely clear” that the party’s position was to support a national legislated Voice following the completion of the meeting, a position they supported.
“We did agree that – 100 per cent that is what we agreed to. It’s in writing.” the MP said.
“It achieves exactly the same thing but without creating the constitutional minefield.”
https://nit.com.au/09-04-2023/5548/liberal-party-briefing-notes-backed-national-voice#.ZDN7nt-OrWJ.twitter
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The italicised text in this post suggests the story was run in the Daily Telegraph, but the link at the bottom is ascribed to the National Indigenous Times.
If Murdoch’s Telegraph were running a story of this nature – basically accusing Dutton of dishonesty – the would be highly significant in terms of the Murdochracy’s support – or lack thereof – for Dutton as leader.
Any way of confirming the source – e.g. is it a Telegraph story reproduce by NI Times?
Snappy
I don’t have access to the DT, but I do know most of what they publish is absolute tripe. If this article is there, even if it is tripe, it would show a cooling by Murdoch for the pug-ugly Dutton.
The National Indigenous Times, is AFAIK, a reputable aggregator of all publication about First Nation matters.
You would make Peter Hartcher purr with these remarks, leftie:
“ Make no mistake:
The CCP is clear and present danger to the ongoing prosperity and survival of our democratic and free ways, as they are to Taiwan etc”
… facepalm.
S777
I may have been optimistic as it were. Life expectancy for Russian men is 66.5. With a falling general population the proportion of men of military age may be rather less than a quarter. The other impact here is that the annual class may be declining naturally in any case.
No wonder they went after the 325,000 prisoners!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/14/russia-population-crisis-putin/
Boerwar @ Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:25 pm:
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Boerwar & Steve777, just to add some demographic context to the Russian KIA rates, in 2022 (date and month unknown), Russia had a population of 144,713,31, of which about 19,808,460 were males aged 20-40, or about 13.7% of Russia’s total population.
So, a KIA of 200k comprises almost exactly 1% (1 in 100) of all military age men. If the KIA:WIA ratio is 1:3, that would make 4% (1 in 25) of all military age men in Russia a casualty of this war. Add in 500k (some estimates have been 600k-700k) military age men fled the country and likely never to return, that make 1.3m military age men in Russia gone, one way or another. That is 6.5%, or close to 1 in 15 of all military aged men. This is a self-inflicted demographic disaster future generations of Russians should never forgive Putin for.
nath @ Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:32 pm:
“Enough Already says:
leftieBrawler, I wouldn’t be surprised if actual Russian military deaths were much higher than the published official AFU KIA figures.
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I listened to an intercepted Russian call a few months back. The soldier informed the caller that 4 out of 120 men or so did not even make it out of basic training. I think one died of a heart attack, another soldier was raped by other soldiers and killed himself etc. So if that was indicative then it’s a few percent of troops who don’t even make it to battlefield.”
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Sweet Jesus! This is a horror show.
The land tax and rates on a $1mill land value property in the ACT is about $14k.
Granted its higher than NSW – but only because they have abolished stamp duty generally which is a significant benefit.
$14K is hardly a huge imposition to crow about and cite as an example of your altruism to disabled kids. After all on a defined benefit pension of $200K – you’ve probably got indexation of – you guessed it $14K to grow it to $214K
sprocket_
Re David Rowe cartoon.
Did you note that 55u555an Ley was wearing a fascinator?
Steve777 says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:13 pm
Russia has a population of about 144 million. A death toll of about 200 k in a year would be a big deal, about 1/700 of the population, maybe about 1/120 men of military age. It would become very big after a few years if the war goes on, affecting most extended families, social groups, etc. Wounded would be several times deaths.
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And on top that add 200k men of war fighting age who have left Russia, presumably for a very long time or at least until Putin’s death.
The loss of human capital is unlikely to be replaced in Russia this century, if ever.
Cronus @ #2464 Monday, April 10th, 2023 – 6:49 pm
As the carrying capacity of the planet diminishes due to the coming climate catastrophes, war could become one of the go-to methods of population management.
MelbourneMammoth says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:32 pm
“Melbourne mammoth you make me physically ill with a lot of your ridiculous claims about the impending come from nowhere LNP win at the next federal election. Even Lars would think alot of your LNP fairy tale predictions are BS.
Your BS high water mark was the other day during the NSW late counting with your deluded claims that the sworn in Minns ministry may have to have their commissions withdrawn by the Governor with some NSW LNP victory from a few thousand postals spread across several seats.”
LeftieBrawler – even though I am not on the opposite side of politics as you – I still find your retort, like plenty of the other posters here (which I won’t deign to name) highly patronizing and condescending. If you want to act like that then don’t post at all.
My point about the Coalition winning miraculously on postals was a bit facetious but in the end Labor only got 45 seats – well short of what was projected on election day. And in 2008 at the corresponding time of the first Rudd government they were polling higher than the Albanese government is now – and this was well BEFORE Abbott became LOTO so a much more centrist Liberal opposition. I stand by my statement that if something were to go really pear-shaped internally for Labor such as Shorten knifing his boss, their electoral capital will swiftly crumble and Dutton may well still become PM.
So there.
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I agree…Turnbull ‘agreeing’ with Rudd on emissions reduction was good for Rudd and bad for the Coalition, for example.
Albo’s approval ratings have never reached the stratospheric heights Rudd’s did; neither has Labor’s 2PP polling advantage reached its 2008 heights.
(There’s so often a but…) BUT, Rudd isn’t a faction member. When he stumbled it was easy for the idiots (and they were idiots) to organise against him.
Albo is a factional veteran who has led his party to govt. While Albo only lost the 2013 leadership challenge because the Right and part of the Left of the parliamentary membership organised against him, he is in a far more secure position now than Rudd ever was. In part, this is because Albo leads a true ‘cabinet govt’ – as opposed to people having to get Rudd’s approval for basically everything.
Shorten can’t just topple Albo. Albo has to epically stuff up several times – and even then lots of the party room would say to each other “remember 2010.”
sprocket_ says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:20 pm
Oh dear, could the Honourable Peter Dutton have just done a very dishonourable act? I would have expected this from Howard or Morrison, but Mr 26%?
Briefing notes from a Liberal Party meeting which preceded the formal declaration of the party’s “no” stance have suggested the party room position was different from that announced by opposition leader Peter Dutton. On Wednesday, Mr Dutton rejected the government’s proposal of a constitutionally enshrined national Voice, instead formalising the opposition’s preferred Voice model based on an acknowledgement of First Nations peoples in the constitution and legislated local and regional voices.
However according to Liberal Party briefing notes obtained by the Daily Telegraph Newspaper, the party’s position was to support a legislated national Voice, differing to what Mr Dutton told a press conference following the meeting where he said there was “resounding” opposition to a national Voice body from Liberal MPs.
Named “Liberal-Party-in-confidence”, the briefing note obtained by the Daily Telegraph suggested that if the party “is credibly to reject the government’s current model, it must provide an alternative”, with “a suite of measures” including constitutional recognition, a local and regional body and a legislated national body to be part of the opposition’s Voice proposal.
“The third pillar of the pro-posed alternative model is a commitment to a national bodyas (sic) and offering to develop such legislation on a bi-partisan basis in advance of the referendum,” the Liberal Party document states.
Multiple Liberal MPs suggested after the meeting they understood the party’s position to be supportive of a legislated national Voice, contrary to Mr Dutton’s announcement.
One Liberal MP said “obviously if you leave the room with that piece of paper and the leader has endorsed it then that’s what the position is – everyone thought that’s what the policy was,” the Telegraph reported.
Another commented on the outcome of the meeting, suggesting although Mr Dutton didn’t explicitly state the party’s support of a national legislated Voice, it was there in black and white.
“In these matters you go on the papers,” the MP said.
A third Liberal MP said it was “absolutely clear” that the party’s position was to support a national legislated Voice following the completion of the meeting, a position they supported.
“We did agree that – 100 per cent that is what we agreed to. It’s in writing.” the MP said.
“It achieves exactly the same thing but without creating the constitutional minefield.”
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I just read The Daily Telegraph version too and I’m a little surprised this story hasn’t gained greater oxygen given the potential ramifications. Has Dutton deceived or overridden the party room?
Snappy Tom
“ Any way of confirming the source – e.g. is it a Telegraph story reproduce by NI Times?”
Confirmed.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fliberal-mps-say-they-voted-for-a-legislated-national-body-in-lieu-of-the-voice-to-parliament%2Fnews-story%2F83231fcf25ce02536d9c6cb58b5650b8&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-groupa-test-noscore&V21spcbehaviour=append
Put it into archive.md
Player One says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:55 pm
Cronus @ #2464 Monday, April 10th, 2023 – 6:49 pm
The loss of human capital is unlikely to be replaced in Russia this century, if ever.
As the carrying capacity of the planet diminishes due to the coming climate catastrophes, war could become one of the go-to methods of population management.
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Along with the odd pandemic. And of course even water wars have long been postulated.
AE wrote, “the centre left is a particular target for this smudge.”
He wrote that he was a centrist, not centre left. I stand by my comment. These ‘centrists’ love kittens and believe in climate change, but are economic fascists.
Nath @ 6.16pm
” Sad to think that the Russian people are still bullied by political gangsters.”
It would be quite easy to make an argument that “political gangsters’ were at work during the Morrison PMship and with reference to “robodebt’ and water buybacks.
A correction and an addition to my post above at 6:42pm:
Correction – population 144,713,314
Addition – link https://www.populationpyramid.net/russian-federation/2022/
Today is World Parkinson’s Awareness Day:
https://www.parkinsonsnsw.org.au/world-parkinsons-day-2023/
It’s a crap disease, with no cure in sight but that’s the way the mop flops:
(paywalled)
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/this-disease-has-taken-so-much-from-me-but-i-m-grateful-for-the-unexpected-positives-20230405-p5cybt.html
Interesting first inpex and now santos has come out against the safeguard mechanism.
Player One
As the carrying capacity of the planet diminishes due to the coming climate catastrophes, war could become one of the go-to methods of population management.
This is a bold policy suggestion. Personally I am against it.
Barnaby was on Sunrise this morning doing his usual obfuscations and outright lies. The Voice to Parliament setting interest rates and vetoing Defence policy? Did he miss the word ‘advise’ in the wording?
https://7news.com.au/video/news/barnaby-joyce-and-tanya-plibersek-clash-over-indigenous-voice-to-parliament-legislation-bc-6324266031112
Lars, so far nobody except gas industry have complained.
Perhaps if they had of paid their taxes and not cut local supplies for super profits offshore, plus continuing to pollute the planet at zero cost – we would have some sympathy for them.
Shogun @ #2475 Monday, April 10th, 2023 – 7:15 pm
I don’t think you are going to be asked to vote on it.
AE: you must be the only “barrister” on castlereagh’s domiciled chambers that has enough time to fritter away on Pb day after day??.
I’m a red or dead Labor man but I also see the security risks of being in the shadow of an autocratic, despotic regime with war mongering tendencies and a population of over a billion.
You can be a centre left intelligent being without also being a ‘yay for everything’ loony Labor left – far left- groupie.
I’m a Caldwell and (pre Twitter meltdown) Latham Labor man at heart I guess- and if that’s a crime I’m guilty as charged. Irrespective of any of that first and foremost I’m capable of intelligent and pragmatic thought and thus see the danger of Xi et al to our continent.
Breathtaking hypocrisy that the Murdoch outlets, who collectively have the biggest megaphones to Parliament and the Executive, are against the disadvantaged First Nations people having a Voice.
Player One says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:19 pm
Shogun @ #2475 Monday, April 10th, 2023 – 7:15 pm
Player One
As the carrying capacity of the planet diminishes due to the coming climate catastrophes, war could become one of the go-to methods of population management.
This is a bold policy suggestion. Personally I am against it.
I don’t think you are going to be asked to vote on it.
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I want my referendum on global war, damnit!
clem attlee
These ‘centrists’ love kittens and believe in climate change, but are economic fascists.
I am an ‘economic fascist’. I like this almost as much as ‘Labor stooge’.
Cronus says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:05 pm
Snappy Tom
“ Any way of confirming the source – e.g. is it a Telegraph story reproduce by NI Times?”
Confirmed.
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fnews%2Fnsw%2Fliberal-mps-say-they-voted-for-a-legislated-national-body-in-lieu-of-the-voice-to-parliament%2Fnews-story%2F83231fcf25ce02536d9c6cb58b5650b8&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-groupa-test-noscore&V21spcbehaviour=append
Put it into archive.md
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Thanks Cronus.
In response to your question about why the story doesn’t seem to have gained wider traction, I propose a conspiracy theory:
1) the Murdochracy has a true story;
2) the story could be devestating to the Coalition; so
3) the story is published at the end of the Easter weekend, probably the sleepiest time for the journalistic class outside of the several days after 24 December.
Thus, a major negative for the Coalition can be buried.
Of course, it would’ve been better not to publish at all.
Maybe Dutton’s on notice – or is already in the process of being discarded…
Sprocket – maybe it will be a slow burn?
Player one-
You never cease to amaze how you can somehow link and reduce any argument down to a Labor conspiracy against the natural environment.
Every time I begin to start liking you, you manage to somehow come uk isn’t this crap time after time
Anyone who still hasn’t seen the film Cry Freedom should do so.
Sadly still relevant to here and now.
‘Lars Von Trier says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:46 pm
The land tax and rates on a $1mill land value property in the ACT is about $14k.
Granted its higher than NSW – but only because they have abolished stamp duty generally which is a significant benefit.
$14K is hardly a huge imposition to crow about and cite as an example of your altruism to disabled kids. After all on a defined benefit pension of $200K – you’ve probably got indexation of – you guessed it $14K to grow it to $214K’
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Dutton’s approach to the Voice goes to the heart of the Coalition’s corruption: bad faith lying. There can be no trust. There is no integrity. Anyone can be sacrificed. Politics is a form of anti-social Darwinism with the Coalition’s inner scum rising to the surface and the nastiest, most conniving and most vicious rising to the top. ﹰPrograms are corrupted. ﹰManagement is corrupted. ﹰPolicy is corrupted. National security is compromised. The environment is trashed. Time itself is trashed. The past is put away. The future is eaten. There is only a savage ever-rolling present of dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost.
Larsland.
leftieBrawler says:
I’m a Caldwell and (pre Twitter meltdown) Latham Labor man at heart I guess
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Wah?
Caldwell ?
Rex Douglas says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:38 pm
Anyone who still hasn’t seen the film Cry Freedom should do so.
Sadly still relevant to here and now.
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I’ve watched it many times.
Which particular point of relevance do you wish to highlight?
Deaths in custody
Abuse
Racism
….
BW says
Dutton’s approach to the Voice goes to the heart of the Coalition’s corruption: bad faith lying. There can be no trust. There is no integrity. Anyone can be sacrificed. Politics is a form of anti-social Darwinism with the Coalition’s inner scum rising to the surface and the nastiest, most conniving and most vicious rising to the top. ﹰPrograms are corrupted. ﹰManagement is corrupted. ﹰPolicy is corrupted. National security is compromised. The environment is trashed. Time itself is trashed. The past is put away. The future is eaten. There is only a savage ever-rolling present of dog eat dog and the devil take the hindmost.
As I said before , no interest in policy, fairness, equality, legality, the lot. And…most of their supporters (quiet ones and boosters) are like it too.
Holy Week celebrations (this week, not sometime in the past) in Spain are a throwback, reminds one of the religious infiltrators in the Liberal Party ..
This from AFP site..
I have a peace plan for Ukraine.
They surrender the capital, all major cities and all resources of any value to the Russians.
They then get left defined areas of the country they are free to ‘enjoy’.
Over time of course the Russians are entitled to put settlements in the defined areas as and when they want.
Of course Ukrainians will not be citizens in their own country under this peace plan they won’t have any rights and will be subject to arbitrary arrest, and execution.
For the next 100 years any time Ukrainians throw a rock or look at the Russians wrong Russia will be entitled to carpet bomb the defined areas of civilians as just retribution and in the media the Ukrainians will take all the blame, because they will be called terrorists.
At first I thought it looked a bit harsh then I remembered how much support Israel gets from the media and members of this board and I realised it was a fantastic and fair outcome Ukrainians would be crazy and at fault for not signing up for.
Problem solved.
leftieBrawler @ #2486 Monday, April 10th, 2023 – 7:31 pm
Cry me a river. You could fill a dam with my disappointment.
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Andrew_Earlwoodsays:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:01 pm
@Clem:
“ There is no centre. ‘Centrists’ are people who use that label, as a veil to hide what they really are., Most often neoliberals.”
‘Neoliberals’ is also a label. Often used by the left to smudge folk they don’t like, or points of view they do not agree with. The centre left is a particular target for this smudge.
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Exactly.
spr
I prefer the white hats.
Those black hats are probably worn by Israelis. I bet they eat christian babies for breakfast.
Dutton is playing to his support. Dutton cannot afford to get off side with the racist rednecks from the Queensland LNP thingie.
The anti aboriginal slightly subdued wave is out there and will be slowly exposed closer to the referendum.
It’s called hate.
Dutton is placing a bet that “the hate’ is more prevalent that is currently being measured and is being reassured constantly that his path is correct.
The referendum will be much closer than imagined on PB and is not a given.
The entire country is going to be bombarded with every available indigenous anecdote between now and the referendum.
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98.6says:
Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:23 pm
While Australia, the UK and the USA are banning Chinese owned Tik Tok for fear of users divulging secrets to the Chinese Communist Party, we now see secret documents have been leaked regarding the US involvement in the war in Ukraine.
If Tik Tok can spy on anyone using that platform, I would think that facebook, twitter, instagram etc can do it to and perhaps better.
That’s where I would start looking for the leaks.
HELLO !
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Oh well! We do what we do.