Polls: Essential Research and Roy Morgan (open thread)

Little change on voting intention in the latest Essential Research poll, but a dip from Labor’s recent highs in Roy Morgan.

Essential Research’s fortnightly voting intention numbers, which include a 5% undecided component, have both Labor and the Coalition down a point on the primary vote, to 33% and 30% respectively, with the Greens steady on 14%, One Nation up one to 6% and the United Australia Party steady on 2%. The pollster’s 2PP+ measure has Labor up one to 53%, the Coalition down one to 42% and undecided steady on 5%. The poll includes has Anthony Albanese’s monthly personal ratings, on which he is down a point on approval to 52% and up one on disapproval to 35%.

Other findings from this fortnight’s survey include strong majority support for six proposed federal government measures to deal with the cost of living, ranging from 77% for electricity and gas price caps to 57% for changing industrial relations laws to make it easier for workers to negotiate pay rises. Fifty-four per cent now rate themselves as financially struggling or worse, up five since March, with 46% rating themselves comfortable or secure, down five. Asked how much impact federal government policies had on the cost of living, 31% chose a lot, 40% a little, 18% not that much and 5% hardly anything.

On climate change, 39% now rate that the government is not doing enough, down four from October and the lowest result this question has yielded going back to 2016, with doing enough up a point to 33% and doing too much up three to 16%. Fifty-one per cent support a national authority to manage the transition to renewable energy with 20% opposed, and 50% support government assessment of greenhouse gas emissions when considering new projects with 20% opposed, but only 34% support ending future coal and gas extraction projects with 35% opposed. Asked whether parliamentary approval should be required for a decision to go to war, the sample split 90-10 in favour of yes. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Sunday from a sample of 1133.

Also out yesterday was the latest Roy Morgan result, which had Labor’s two-party lead in from 57-43 to 54.5-45.5 from primary votes of Labor 34.5%, Coalition 34.5% and Greens 13%.

UPDATE: Also out this morning from The Australian is results from Newspoll on the Indigenous voice, which finds 54% in favour and 38% opposed, breaking down to 55-36 in New South Wales, 56-35 in Victoria, 49-43 in Queensland, 51-41 in Western Australia, 60-33 in South Australia and 55-39 in Tasmania. The results are aggregated from three polls conducted since the start of February, but sub-sample sizes are as low as 334 in the case of Tasmania, increasing to 1414 in the case of New South Wales.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Yabba replies to Lars Von Trier :

    Clothes, fashion, status symbols and associated pointless ephemera I am not much interested in. Reliability research in the US shows that you have switched from 3rd most reliable car brand (BMW) to the 24th, and bottom (Mercedes). But never mind the quality, feel the prestige, and watch the money that you could have spent productively disappear into a depreciation, lease interest and servicing black hole, rather than being spent on something worthwhile, like a contribution to Sukkar’s branch stacking fund.
    Snapshot https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/toyota-lexus-and-bmw-top-reliability-surveyToyota
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    98.6 says :
    So I click on the link above and I start reading :-
    WhichCar ? survey.

    *Toyota Corolla Cross tops reliability survey
    *Mercedes-Benz GLE at the bottom
    *But study is limited by number of models and brands surveyed

    and that’s where I stopped reading.

    There are 14 major global corporations that control more than 60 major automotive brands across the globe, and that doesn’t even count the smaller local companies in various countries around the world.
    There’s a world of choice in today’s car market, with more than 400 different models and many car types available.

    How many of those 60 brands and the 400 models were surveyed in WhichCar ?

    Did any brand have to pay to be included in the survey ?
    Was anyone bribed to give a good report for a particular car ?
    If some car brands can lie about diesel emissions, they will lie about anything.

    If the survey was anything like the 2019 federal election surveys then it deserves to be put in the rubbish bin.

  2. @Clem:

    “ There is no centre. ‘Centrists’ are people who use that label, as a veil to hide what they really are., Most often neoliberals.”

    ‘Neoliberals’ is also a label. Often used by the left to smudge folk they don’t like, or points of view they do not agree with. The centre left is a particular target for this smudge.

  3. This Labor Govt is very similar to the Howard Govt with it’s policy to shift wealth to the already wealthy and it’s massive investment in Defence.

  4. I am glad c@tmomma has apologised to Rex Douglas . The comment was out of order. But, of course, it is not my apology to accept and I hope Rex is able to see it and decide for themselves and is able to move forward.

  5. @Clem:

    “ There is no centre. ‘Centrists’ are people who use that label, as a veil to hide what they really are., Most often neoliberals.”
    ——————–
    Neoliberalism is an economic theory that was out of fashion for about 100 years.

  6. @leftyBrawler

    In response to your earlier question, yes it’s a made in China SR+ with the LFP battery (lithium iron phosphate), and I’m actually glad we got the SR+ (now known as RWD) because of the battery.

    Build quality is excellent, no dramas with paint or misaligned panels at all, and I’ve only had one minor issue that required a service. The cameras randomly stopped working, but then came good 10 minutes later, but then it happened again a few days later, this time for a few days. Tesla did a diagnostic over the air, and determined a faulty wiring harness, so they ordered the part and booked me in to a slot at the gold coast (no Tesla mobile service coverage in Coffs yet unfortunately). A few days later the cameras came good, but I went ahead with the service anyway, turns out some of the cables had simply popped out of the cable channel in the chassis. They reseated everything and put in the new wiring harness anyway, and gave me some uber vouchers so I could get around the Goldy during the service. Had one other minor thing that I can’t even remember what it was now, but it was a software thing that was patched within a week. Compared to friends and colleagues who have bought new ICE vehicles it’s been heaps better

    One really nice thing is I took my wife up to Dorrigo today, and like any car it used a bit over f juice going up the mountain at waterfall way, but after a bushwalk through the rainforest, viewing a local art exhibition and a wonderful lunch at a local cafe, we went down the mountain.

    Started Tue descent at 65% charge and by the bottom of the mountain we were at 70% charge! Compared that to an ICE vehicle that is both burning fuel the whole way down AND wasting energy on heat and friction to the brake pads, whereas I just used strong regen and barely had to touch the brakes at all

    I know you said your waiting for a sub 50k car with 500+km range but trust me you really don’t need that range, and the lack of servicing, access to the supercharger network and just the quality of the car, software and experience with a Tesla makes them hands down the best EVs, we test drove a few others but they were all the difference between the old Nokia N95 and an iPhone (for those who recall the early smartphone days)

  7. Monday, April 10, 2023 at 1:46 pm
    Sorry, I’ve always used that like Frenchman, Dutchman, Welshman, Scotsman etc etc.

    Moving forward I won’t use that phrase.
    _________________
    I had no idea “Chinaman” was a racist slur until a now deceased Malay Chinese colleague told me it was, nearly 20 years ago. In my lifetime it had “lost its sting” a little (says a middle aged balding white man) but if you look at the history of the term it clearly is an historic racist slur. Better to avoid it.

    There are many such terms in common use in our everyday language. In different countries (usually where the racist slant to the term originated) some of those terms fall from use and are met with shock when they are in common usage in a different country.

    For instance;
    1) “Chinese Whispers” has recently caused a stir on social media (Married at First Sight),
    2) “work like a navvy” is clearly racist,
    3) KFC Australia was accused of racism for having a fan eat KFC in a crowd of West Indian supporters. From an American perspective that was racist but clearly no racial overtone was meant. It was an ad for chicken. We were playing the West Indies at Cricket! The guy was sharing his chicken to promote it. Oops!
    4) And of course black face in theatre. It clearly had a very racist tone in the US. We failed to notice it. Now looking back it is a bit obvious – Ouch.
    5) Granddad loved Irish jokes. (In New York the same jokes are Polish jokes! Equally troublesome but no-one seems to mind.)

    (I played a banjo in a black and white minstrel performance in my High School graduation concert – we made black masks out of silicon for the performance – bless me! There is even a photo in the school year book. I thought it odd at the time but had no idea of the appalling racism involved. The teacher clearly didn’t either. Great rendition of Clampdown Race Track and Swing Low Sweet Chariot – if I do say so myself.)

    On black face – Culture Club’s Church of the Poison Mind has an unfortunate chorus scene – and we wouldn’t accuse Boy George of being a racist.

    I also bowled leg spin very badly -for which I gained a highly offensive (in hindsight) nickname!

    That said we don’t say -Franceman, Hollandman, Walesman, Scotlandman.

    I read an article claiming that Peter Dutton’s Paternal Grandfather was born in mainland China and is of Chinese extraction? Kind of ironic if true!

    A hippy friend of mine and his rad fem ex-wife gave their daughter a radical sounding hippy name which just happens to be a racial slur. We in mainstream Australia have only had it pointed out to us in the last few years, but a racist slur it is. She is in her thirties now.

    AND – listen to the lyrics of “Come On Aussie Come on” – Who knew people from Pakistan took great offence at our loving nickname for them – immortalised in song.

    Wired World of Sports – wildly humorous in the 1980’s is a cesspool of racism, sexism, misogyny and just about everything else. So much so that it is used as an example in Gender studies as an example of changes in what is acceptable over time. (Who knew “Madonna Kahn Singh” was racist? Or that ‘Alfeez ‘and Missing’ was ablest?

    I suspect ‘we / Scomo’ signed up to Aukus ‘cos they are (still majority) white and speak english and therefore must be good. Bugger (those ‘cheese eating surrender monkeys’ -sorry!) the french.

    John Cleese made an excellent point when he mentioned the nazis once, but thought he got away with it.

    My point: Casual racism is everywhere. It doesn’t mean you are a racist. Times change and we are all submerged in our cultural upbringing. When it is pointed out to you, as our friend has done, apologise, drop it and move on.

    ()

    Vote 1 – J. Barnes.

  8. While Australia, the UK and the USA are banning Chinese owned Tik Tok for fear of users divulging secrets to the Chinese Communist Party, we now see secret documents have been leaked regarding the US involvement in the war in Ukraine.
    If Tik Tok can spy on anyone using that platform, I would think that facebook, twitter, instagram etc can do it to and perhaps better.
    That’s where I would start looking for the leaks.

    HELLO !

  9. ‘PageBoi says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:10 pm

    Started Tue descent at 65% charge and by the bottom of the mountain we were at 70% charge!
    …’
    ———————————————-
    Oh. *yearns*

  10. MABWM
    1) “Chinese Whispers” has recently caused a stir on social media (Married at First Sight),

    What about:
    Russian roulette
    Irish twins
    Spanish prisoner
    Dutch courage
    Mexican stand-off
    Nigerian prince scam
    ????????????????

  11. Often Irish Navvy – the perception that much of the labour of the English industrial revolution was done by Irish peasants fleeing the famine. I understand this was not accurate ant most navvies were English

  12. OC – Feeling chipper about the new State Government? Seems like less infrastructure/ more public sector wages?

  13. The trouble with running a small target campaign is that when you win, there is no sense of a big picture.

    How much influence does Gerard have and what will be his reward?

    Have you taken the soup yet?

  14. In todays paper it says :-
    ‘Chinese visitors to the Gold Coast are on track to return to 80% of pre-Covid levels by Christmas’.
    By the way we have treated them, as future invaders of our country or as a country we will be at war with within 3 years, one has to wonder why they would bother to come here at all.
    Hopefully, with the conga line of Premiers and our PM visiting China and restoring trade and diplomatic relations with our LARGEST TRADING PARTNER the Chinese will see that not everyone in Australia sees them as the enemy.

  15. ‘Oakeshott Country says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 4:50 pm

    Often Irish Navvy – the perception that much of the labour of the English industrial revolution was done by Irish peasants fleeing the famine. I understand this was not accurate ant most navvies were English’
    —————————————————
    …thanks… short for ‘navigators’.

    https://www.railwaymuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/navvies-workers-who-built-railways

  16. Jesus Christ, I take a half day off pb to take the kids to time zone and then commence getting tanked on coopers red before my pathetic tigs take on the eels and all I see is references to apologies, high drama and even the man with the big stick our lord and creator Bowe stepping in??!!

  17. albanese seems to be governing a lot moreconservagtive then shortin would have had labor won in 2019 it sort of proves the faction labils have basickly lost relivants shorten had a more radical economick policy with bowen

  18. I thought “navvy” just meant labourer, with no ethnic implications. Maybe it’s classist. Be that as it may, it’s a little-used term these days.

  19. William, I hope I’m not heading towards the naughty corner also?.

    I like to think my stupidity is begrudgingly tolerated due to sharing otherwise confidential internal data from time to time.

  20. @WilliamBowe: when posters get banned from this form do they get a permanent ban or only a temporary one? Does it depend on the severity of their post?

  21. leftieBrawler says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 1:11 pm

    Paul I think the best deterrence opportunity was missed when offered to us in the 50s- a nuclear ICBM arsenal as a purely “second strike” initiative to counter our population deficit.

    We need to take a pragmatic approach to China and at the very least reach a bipartisan consensus to allow the Americans to build as many bases as they like in the top end with a policy of ambiguity neither confirming or denying that they also house nuclear weapons on these bases.

    If you want to trust a regime that treats human rights as an option it’ll be a rocky road indeed.
    ____________

    Which regime “…treats human rights as an option…”?

    Not, I think China: human rights are not an option under that regime.

    Possibly the USA, depending which state (it appears). Human rights in California, not so much in Tennessee etc.

    Which regime did you have in mind?

  22. Melbourne mammoth you make me physically ill with a lot of your ridiculous claims about the impending come from nowhere LNP win at the next federal election. Even Lars would think alot of your LNP fairy tale predictions are BS.

    Your BS high water mark was the other day during the NSW late counting with your deluded claims that the sworn in Minns ministry may have to have their commissions withdrawn by the Governor with some NSW LNP victory from a few thousand postals spread across several seats.

  23. @WilliamBowe: when posters get banned from this form do they get a permanent ban or only a temporary one? Does it depend on the severity of their post?

    It depends on what I feel like doing.

  24. Why all the sudden hate on c@t???

    It’s ones like her, me, Lars, outside left, player one (aka Matt kean) et al that add colour and comic relief to pb

  25. Andrew_Earlwood says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 1:58 pm

    Solid post @ 12:52pm WWP.

    AUKUS – viewed from both a foreign policy and as a defence structure policy – is just bonkers.

    That the modern Labor party has joined the mad rush to retreat back into the anglosphere, after all the hard work that Whitlam and Keating did to realign ourselves intellectually with our own neighbourhood is frankly astonishing. The most cra-cra thing I’ve witnessed in this country in my adult life.
    ____________

    I’m not so sure.

    Part of me says “There’s been a lot of cra-cra things in this country”.

    I wonder if we need to compile a list and discuss comparative merits.

    One example: Howard getting us into the 2nd Iraq war (despite all sorts of opinion polling and community argument against): cra-cra or just Howard’s personal darkness?

  26. Enough already – I’ve read credible claims total Russian corpses are approaching 250k.

    They go through them as if they are a country of the population of China or India as opposed to barely 100m these days with heavy net losses year to year of citizens since the 90s after the CCCP dissolution

  27. Snappy are you a financial member of the CCP by any chance ??

    To be honest, the endorsement and/or defence of the Xi CCP regime should be considered tantamount to treason in the commonwealth of Australia.

    Make no mistake:

    The CCP is clear and present danger to the ongoing prosperity and survival of our democratic and free ways, as they are to Taiwan etc

  28. William Bowe says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 2:36 pm

    A quick check confirms my impression that C@tmomma posts at least three times as many comments as WeWantPaul. With that no doubt ill-advised bit of factual commentary out of the way, I will now be requiring an end to circular spats and name-calling for the time being.
    ____________

    Awwww…

  29. The LNP comeback strategy seems to depend upon the Federal Labor Government falling over. In the meantime, play culture war games, oppose everything and work with Newscorp to capitalise on “events” as they occur. Abbott 2010-13 re-jigged.

    Can it work again? I very much doubt it. It feels more like 1983.

  30. RE the discussion on ‘centre’ as a political brand.

    In my uni days, Centre Unity was the student political grouping where all the right wingers hung out – one Tony Abbott amongst them.

    Mostly stacked with Engineering types, and private schoolers doing Marriage 101, I recall one conversation with an English major who quoted Yeats at me as to the importance of the ‘centre’ versus some of the other student groupings…

    The Second Coming
    BY WILLIAM BUTLER YEATS

    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.

    https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-coming

  31. Russia has a population of about 144 million. A death toll of about 200 k in a year would be a big deal, about 1/700 of the population, maybe about 1/120 men of military age. It would become very big after a few years if the war goes on, affecting most extended families, social groups, etc. Wounded would be several times deaths.

  32. One of the Greens plan to pay for everything they promised was to tax billionaires. There was quite a bit of ranting about neoliberal, etc, etc, etc. and how the rich deserved to get the soaking the Greens would deal out to them. I am sure the Greens provided the details of how much this would raise, by when, etc. After all their splurge promises were predicated on soaking billionaires.

    When it was pointed out that billionaires would scarper the country by way of a capital flight, this was pooh poohed. When it was pointed out that when the French tried the same thing french millionaires simply left the country. This was pooh poohed as well.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/apr/10/super-rich-abandoning-norway-at-record-rate-as-wealth-tax-rises-slightly

  33. Last night I watched an enjoyable movie called Tetris on Apple+ about the spread of the game internationally at the end of the Cold War. Sad to think that the Russian people are still bullied by political gangsters.

  34. Typically for them, if Moscow cannot control an area it claims, it destroys everything of value within it so it is of no use to anyone else:

    “The Russian invaders in Bakhmut have begun to use scorched-earth tactics; the situation in the city is difficult, but it’s under control, said Oleksandr Syrskyi, Commander of the Ground Forces of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

    “The enemy has switched to so-called ‘Syrian’ scorched-earth tactics. They are destroying buildings and positions with airstrikes and artillery fire. The defence of Bakhmut continues. The situation is difficult, but under control.”

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/10/7397155/

    For Ukrainians, this is a replay of WW2, when Stalin’s Red Army, sent reeling backwards across Ukraine by the Wehrmacht during Operation Barbarossa, removed practically all Ukraine’s crops, livestock, vehicles, rolling stock, and agricultural and industrial equipment eastwards to Russia, or else destroyed them, along with Ukraine’s farms, factories and buildings.

    Except, this brutal destruction is far more wanton and spiteful. Take a bow, Putin, you have outshone your muse Stalin in at least one aspect of his consistent repression of Ukrainians.

  35. Oh dear, could the Honourable Peter Dutton have just done a very dishonourable act? I would have expected this from Howard or Morrison, but Mr 26%?

    Briefing notes from a Liberal Party meeting which preceded the formal declaration of the party’s “no” stance have suggested the party room position was different from that announced by opposition leader Peter Dutton. On Wednesday, Mr Dutton rejected the government’s proposal of a constitutionally enshrined national Voice, instead formalising the opposition’s preferred Voice model based on an acknowledgement of First Nations peoples in the constitution and legislated local and regional voices.

    However according to Liberal Party briefing notes obtained by the Daily Telegraph Newspaper, the party’s position was to support a legislated national Voice, differing to what Mr Dutton told a press conference following the meeting where he said there was “resounding” opposition to a national Voice body from Liberal MPs.

    Named “Liberal-Party-in-confidence”, the briefing note obtained by the Daily Telegraph suggested that if the party “is credibly to reject the government’s current model, it must provide an alternative”, with “a suite of measures” including constitutional recognition, a local and regional body and a legislated national body to be part of the opposition’s Voice proposal.

    “The third pillar of the pro-posed alternative model is a commitment to a national bodyas (sic) and offering to develop such legislation on a bi-partisan basis in advance of the referendum,” the Liberal Party document states.

    Multiple Liberal MPs suggested after the meeting they understood the party’s position to be supportive of a legislated national Voice, contrary to Mr Dutton’s announcement.

    One Liberal MP said “obviously if you leave the room with that piece of paper and the leader has endorsed it then that’s what the position is – everyone thought that’s what the policy was,” the Telegraph reported.

    Another commented on the outcome of the meeting, suggesting although Mr Dutton didn’t explicitly state the party’s support of a national legislated Voice, it was there in black and white.

    “In these matters you go on the papers,” the MP said.

    A third Liberal MP said it was “absolutely clear” that the party’s position was to support a national legislated Voice following the completion of the meeting, a position they supported.

    “We did agree that – 100 per cent that is what we agreed to. It’s in writing.” the MP said.

    “It achieves exactly the same thing but without creating the constitutional minefield.”

    https://nit.com.au/09-04-2023/5548/liberal-party-briefing-notes-backed-national-voice#.ZDN7nt-OrWJ.twitter

  36. Russians are cowardly, brutal – and sick:

    “The Russians are continuing to abduct residents of Luhansk Oblast who are suspected of helping the Armed Forces of Ukraine – they are being taken away to an unknown destination.

    Source: Luhansk Oblast Military Administration on Telegram

    Quote: “Cases of violent abduction of civilians by Russian invaders keep happening.

    In particular, in Starobilsk they conduct searches of the places of residence of citizens suspected of supporting Ukraine, and take people to an unknown destination – without bringing them back.”

    Details: The invaders also steal Ukrainian property. For example, in a kindergarten in Chmyrivka, the Russians dismantled and took away a boiler system in parts to an unknown destination.

    “However, where cynicism goes off the scale is in the Popasna district. There, the invaders remove stone monuments from graves in cemeteries and take them to Kadiivka, where they re-polish the inscriptions.

    Plates stolen from cemeteries are marked with the names and surnames of the dead invaders because it is more than three times cheaper than ordering a new monument,” the Oblast Military Administration wrote.”

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/10/7397150/

  37. What is to be done Boerwar? Nothing? How is the Government going to pay for those unfunded defined pension liabilities? The flight of capital (whether it be individual or company) in response to modest tax increases is a vexxing problem. But in response to it is the solution to simply increase the tax burden on the rank and file PAYG earners who cannot flee the jurisdiction? Some would say they are already carrying a disproportionate load.

  38. leftieBrawler says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:58 pm

    Snappy are you a financial member of the CCP by any chance ??

    To be honest, the endorsement and/or defence of the Xi CCP regime should be considered tantamount to treason in the commonwealth of Australia.

    Make no mistake:

    The CCP is clear and present danger to the ongoing prosperity and survival of our democratic and free ways, as they are to Taiwan etc
    ____________

    I’m going to put your post in the “leftiebrawler humour” category.

  39. ‘Steve777 says:
    Monday, April 10, 2023 at 6:13 pm

    Russia has a population of about 144 million. A death toll of about 200 k in a year would be a big deal, about 1/700 of the population, maybe about 1/120 men of military age. It would become very big after a few years if the war goes on, affecting most extended families, social groups, etc. Wounded would be several times deaths.’
    ————————–
    If we assume that a quarter of Russia’s population consists of men between 18 and 40 then the pool is, notionally, 36 million then the KIA figure is around one in 180. Wounded ratios vary enormously but, say, 2 wounded for every one killed is very conservative. These are on top of KIA.
    Then you are looking at 1 in 60.
    Figures are rubbery but assume that 500,000 Russian men of military age have fled the country. That is 1 in 72.
    Combined KIA, WIA and fled the country is 1 in 33 males of military age.
    As you point out, basically, every single person in Russia would know 33 men of Russian military age and would, presumably, know several men who are fighting, who have been killed, wounded or fled.
    The chances that one or more are family is extraordinarily high.

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