Miscellany: federal Morgan, Tasmanian EMRS, British generation gap (open thread)

Labor steady federally, Liberal up a little in Tasmania, and Britain’s Tories facing the similar generational challenges to Australia’s.

A couple of things to be noted as the Victorian election dominates my attention:

• The weekly Roy Morgan video update tells us that federal Labor’s two-party lead is steady at 53.5-46.5, and nothing further.

• The quarterly EMRS poll of Tasmanian state voting intention gives the Liberals their best result this year, up one to 42% with Labor down two to 29% and the Greens up one to 14%. Jeremy Rockliff’s lead over Rebecca White is 46-34, little changed from 47-35 in August. The poll was conducted November 8 to 15 from a sample of 1000.

• Something that caught my eye from Charlotte Ivers in Britain’s New Statesman, as it seems more than relevant to Australia:

In 2019 57 per cent of people aged 60-69 voted Tory, but only 23 per cent of people aged 25-29. Of course, it is news to nobody that young people vote Labour and older people vote Conservative. What is alarming Conservative MPs is that the tipping point age at which people become more likely to vote Conservative than Labour is going up, and it is going up quickly. Before the 2017 election, research by the Onward think tank found, the tipping point was 34. By 2019 it was 51.

MPs can also tell you why this is. People vote Conservative as they age not because of some innate law, but because ageing has traditionally been associated with the other markers of a Conservative vote: home ownership, a stable job, increased income or capital. It looks like this link is breaking.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

802 comments on “Miscellany: federal Morgan, Tasmanian EMRS, British generation gap (open thread)”

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  1. I have given up regularly reading the Age since the takeover but I snuck a peak this morning. Have Ninefax given up on Operation Danstruction?

    The front page this morning includes the damning article on Frydenberg and Morrison.

    The editorial can’t bring itself to endorse the Liberals, despite longing to. They are not undemocratic and unsuitable, merely “unprepared”.

    “ The arrogant or the unprepared? Not an easy choice

    This election presents a difficult choice for voters.
    There are dangers in returning Labor for a third term, but the Coalition is simply not ready to govern.”
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/the-arrogant-or-the-unprepared-not-an-easy-choice-20221124-p5c0w5.html

  2. I notice neither Morrison nor Robert really deny their behaviour, they simply seek to deflect or justify it or explain it away (‘No one understands what it was like’) with excuses not even a five year old would try. Peas in a pod.

  3. Socrates

    “ The editorial can’t bring itself to endorse the Liberals, despite longing to. They are not undemocratic and unsuitable, merely “unprepared”.

    One only gets to be unprepared for a short time, after six years they can only be considered as lazy and incompetent.

  4. Cronus,
    Niki Savva bells Dutton with surgical precision as well:

    In a deliberate tactic – thought through, but ill-judged – hours after Albanese revealed the extent of Morrison’s deception, Dutton’s shadow cabinet decided to downplay it.

    “The view was, we were best not to talk about it,” one frontbencher said later. The dominant view was that: “A day not spent talking about the rising cost of living was a wasted day.” As if it was not possible to talk about both the economy and to address a serious breach of conventions at the same time.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/extreme-overreach-frydenberg-felt-betrayed-by-morrison-s-secret-appointment-20221124-p5c0zj.html

  5. Ha. Hey, I just did an IQ test. Can’t wait to tell yabba!

    I have always been good at tests. So good I was often accused by teachers of cheating as ‘you are just not that smart’! When I did Comparative Politics they were becoming aware of essay writing cheating (around the time of the new methods to check this) so they did a rare extensive multiple choice exam. tbh, I was surprised they didn’t do these more often. I scored the 2nd top mark for the year and my tutor took me to the uni bar to ask me face to face if I cheated. I explained that I thought they put too much emphasis on essay writing and that, as my first degree was in engineering, I was pretty good at preparing for and doing tests. We proceeded to get drunk and he introduced me to his very attractive polish friend (whose smile would cause birds to sing, rainbows to form and melt icecaps) so all was forgiven.

    So there you go. Chomp on that breakfast.

  6. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    Niki Savva’s back! She tells is how pissed off Josh Frydenberg was with Morrison after he found out the PM has assumed the role of Treasurer. This is a long edited extract from her new book, Bulldozed. Please drop in on Insiders, Niki!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/extreme-overreach-frydenberg-felt-betrayed-by-morrison-s-secret-appointment-20221124-p5c0zj.html
    Lisa Visentin looks at what we might see today when the report from independent inquiry into Morrison’s accumulation of ministries is released.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/judge-s-inquiry-into-morrison-due-friday-as-frydenberg-andrews-condemn-secret-ministries-20221124-p5c105.html
    Sitting weeks were something the Morrison government endured. In stark contrast, the Albanese government has jam-packed each sitting session with an agenda of bills, writes Phil Coorey.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/calm-and-steady-wins-the-race-for-labor-so-far-at-least-20221124-p5c0vv
    David Crowe and Nick McKenzie report on Labor establishing an inquiry into Stuart Robert’s over a leaked cache of emails also reveals the firm sought work on a $1 billion visa outsourcing bid led by Scott Briggs, a close friend of former prime minister Scott Morrison. Pentecostals’R’Us!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/told-him-not-to-use-the-l-word-firm-taking-advice-from-robert-denied-being-lobbyists-20221124-p5c13i.html
    Backgrounding this story, David Crowe writes, “When a global tech company wanted to open doors in Parliament House, its advisers in Canberra knew exactly who to ask for help. The company, Unisys, was one of the clients paying a retainer to a firm with a direct connection to Stuart Robert, the Liberal MP whose career has been a tale of rapid rise, sudden falls and regular controversy over his business dealings.”
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/how-do-you-enter-the-corridors-of-power-maybe-go-via-the-backbench-20221124-p5c0zr.html
    Katherine Murphy tells us how Albanese walked a tightrope of Labor division amid fears the 43% emissions target would cost it the election.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/25/how-albanese-walked-a-tightrope-of-labor-division-amid-fears-43-emissions-target-would-cost-it-the-election
    On election eve in Victoria, The Age’s editorial says, “This election confronts Victorian voters with a difficult choice. On one hand, we have a government that’s been in power for eight years and is showing signs of both arrogance and exhaustion. On the other is a weak and divided opposition facing the same identity crisis as its federal party.” Despite the dangers it mentions, The Age believes the opposition is simply not ready to govern. It has done little real renewal of personnel or policy in the past four years and has not made a compelling case for change. On most of the policy issues that matter to Victorians, Labor’s are stronger and more coherent.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/the-arrogant-or-the-unprepared-not-an-easy-choice-20221124-p5c0w5.html
    Nick McKenzie and Charlotte Grieve tell us that an influential Liberal Party figure and public relations executive at a high-end firm has admitted to using a false online identity to try to shut down reporting on controversial Liberal candidate Renee Heath and the City Builders Church in the lead-up to the Victorian election.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/shame-on-you-liberal-figure-caught-using-007-pics-and-fake-identity-for-dirty-tricks-20221124-p5c10j.html
    Meanwhile Greg Sheridan, who should stick to his defence knitting, writes, “Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews runs the most dedicated and consistent anti-Christian government in Australian history. And Opposition Leader Matthew Guy, a profile in political cowardice, has given in on almost every case. In legislation and abusive rhetoric, the Victorian government has acted to restrict Christians from teaching and living their beliefs. It’s not quite a crime to be a traditional Christian in Victoria but it’s not quite legal in lots of contexts either.” Suck it up Greg!
    https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/victorian-election-daniel-andrews-crusade-against-christianity/news-story/9d92730cba2a700919fa3f7b8f7ce80b
    Only time will tell if the NACC will be the ‘big broom’ promised to sweep through our corridors of power, writes Katherine Murphy.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/24/only-time-will-tell-if-the-nacc-will-be-the-big-broom-promised-to-sweep-through-our-corridors-of-power
    According to James Massola, The Australian Federal Police have spoken with Greens leader Adam Bandt about senator Lidia Thorpe’s former relationship with former Rebels bikie member Dean Martin.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bandt-meets-federal-police-over-thorpe-s-relationship-with-ex-bikie-20221124-p5c10u.html
    He wouldn’t relish the comparison, but at the start of the Albanese government Senate crossbencher David Pocock finds himself with the sort of pivotal power independent Brian Harradine enjoyed during the early Howard years, writes Michelle Grattan.
    https://theconversation.com/grattan-on-friday-david-pocock-has-only-just-arrived-in-the-senate-and-now-hes-negotiating-with-the-pm-195295
    Is a taxpayer subsidy to keep AGL’s Torrens Island B gas power station running really the transition Mike Cannon-Brookes had in mind, asks Jennifer Hewett.
    https://www.afr.com/policy/energy-and-climate/agl-gas-part-of-renewables-balancing-act-20221124-p5c13n
    New data revealing Australia’s greenhouse gas emissions are much higher than reported means pressure is on the Federal Government to go beyond current commitments toward global climate action, writes Professor Jeremy Moss.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/australias-debt-to-the-world-greater-given-our-real-carbon-emissions,16997
    As the prime minister and opposition leader attended a Parliament House barbecue for prostate cancer awareness, a red meat advocate of a different kind was addressing a packed room of conservative MPs just metres away. The Canadian psychologist and internet personality Jordan Peterson, fresh off being unbanned from Twitter, drew a lunchtime crowd of Liberal, National and One Nation politicians for an hour-long lecture touching on energy, climate and opportunities for the political centre-right, reports Josh Butler.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/24/scott-morrison-and-other-conservatives-flock-to-hear-anti-political-correctness-culture-warrior-jordan-peterson
    The Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water has taken legal action to block Guardian Australia from accessing documents about an investigation into illegal land-clearing by Jam Land Pty Ltd in which the shadow treasurer, Angus Taylor, and his brother Richard had interests.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/24/department-acts-to-stop-release-of-documents-on-probe-into-land-clearing-by-company-linked-to-angus-taylor
    Dominic Perrottet’s claim to “have the strongest record on environment anywhere in the country” doesn’t stack up against his dismal failure to protect koala habitat in NSW, writes Sue Arnold.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/perrottets-big-lie-nsws-strong-record-on-environment,17001
    After 50 years at the helm of a public company, Gerry Harvey knows how to play the room when asked about questionable governance or controversial practices. He did just that in yesterday’s intimate annual general meeting reports Callum Foote.
    https://michaelwest.com.au/harvey-norman-longest-running-chairman-gerry-harvey-doesnt-disappoint/
    The AFR tells us that banks have forced the Albanese government to put off the vote on a bill to lift accountability in financial services, with Labor now rethinking a last-minute deal with the Greens that would have added million-dollar fines for law-breaking financial service executives.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/banks-force-labor-rethink-on-1m-executive-fines-20221124-p5c0we
    Federal Court Justice Bernard Murphy described Robodebt as “a massive failure of public administration”. So far the Royal Commission has made little progress is establishing how it happened, given contrary legal advice and warnings from mid-level public servants of the policy dangers, Charles Maskell-Knight who asks if we can recall a greater failure of public administration.
    https://johnmenadue.com/robodebt/
    A growing stoush over plans to clear bushland and build 450 homes in northern Sydney will test the NSW government’s environmental credentials as it faces a teal threat.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/own-goal-plan-to-clear-bushland-for-new-homes-divides-government-mps-20221124-p5c0tw.html
    Dr Asanka Gunasekara writes about the blurring of work/like boundaries and what it is driving.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/why-the-great-resignation-and-quiet-quitting-are-not-just-trends-20221020-p5bri7.html
    Policing of protest has long been fraught in New South Wales. Over years a slow creep has chipped away at the right to peaceful public assembly, argues a concerned Zelda Grimshaw.
    https://johnmenadue.com/totalising-control-police-anti-climate-protest-powers-threatens-us-all/
    The first week of public hearings of an unprecedented inquiry into historical hate crimes against the LGBTQI community has served as a reminder that prejudice existed – and still exists, says the editorial in the SMH. It declares that this important inquiry shines a light on their plight and shows us the need to educate the community about the need for respect and understanding to ensure hate crimes become a thing of the past and the LGBTQI community are treated with respect.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/important-inquiry-shines-a-light-on-transgender-and-gay-hate-crimes-20221124-p5c143.html
    The concerted attacks against comedian Friendlyjordies are simply not funny, declares Michelle Pini.
    https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/friendlyjordies-dangerous-work-met-with-firebombing-attacks,17003
    Danny Lim’s bloody face makes us recoil yet again at police use of force, argues Samantha Lee.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/danny-lim-s-bloody-face-makes-us-recoil-yet-again-at-police-use-of-force-20221123-p5c0sa.html
    “I love America and Americans, but this day devoted to retail is one tradition we don’t need to import”, writes Helen Pitt about Black Friday.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/black-friday-bonanza-no-it-s-just-a-black-day-for-australia-20221123-p5c0of.html
    The good news for investors is that US Federal Reserve Board officials now believe they should slow the pace of interest rate increases. The bad news is that they think US rates may end up higher than they had previously thought, writes Stephen Bartholomeusz.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/the-future-of-interest-rates-just-got-more-complicated-20221124-p5c0vl.html
    Bruce Wolpe writes, “What is coming to a split-screen near you in 2023 is much more dramatic. It is a direct result of Attorney General Merrick Garland’s appointment of a Special Counsel, Jack Smith, to take forward two critical investigations that may well seek to bring Trump to justice, and to show to the American people that no one, not even a former president, is above the law.”
    https://johnmenadue.com/coming-next-year-a-live-stream-split-screen-spectacle-one-president-indicted-another-president-impeached/

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  7. C@tmomma @ #307 Friday, November 25th, 2022 – 7:46 am

    Cronus,
    Niki Savva bells Dutton with surgical precision as well:

    In a deliberate tactic – thought through, but ill-judged – hours after Albanese revealed the extent of Morrison’s deception, Dutton’s shadow cabinet decided to downplay it.

    “The view was, we were best not to talk about it,” one frontbencher said later. The dominant view was that: “A day not spent talking about the rising cost of living was a wasted day.” As if it was not possible to talk about both the economy and to address a serious breach of conventions at the same time.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/extreme-overreach-frydenberg-felt-betrayed-by-morrison-s-secret-appointment-20221124-p5c0zj.html

    Between Bell, Savva, & tomorrow’s Da(m)nation of NeinFax, my cup of schadenfreude overflows this morning. I almost (…Nah) feel sorry for Spud & The Scum Suckers – imagine having to keep covering for Scummo, his little friend Brother Stewie AND Gina the Hutt’s Handbag after all they’ve tried to do for the Rupertariat.

  8. Cronus @ #144 Friday, November 25th, 2022 – 7:58 am

    Thanks BK

    “ Morrison had been protected by a conspiracy of silence. No one who knew what he had done blew the whistle.”

    A tiny but telling comment. It describes the Coalition perfectly.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/extreme-overreach-frydenberg-felt-betrayed-by-morrison-s-secret-appointment-20221124-p5c0zj.html

    It also extends to the CPG journalists who knew as well. I reckon they’ve got some explainin’ to do.

    They’re supposed to be the ones that tell the great unwashed about things like this, not be the secret keepers for a lawless government.

  9. Climate 200 has released the results of polling that it commissioned in three seats that it is backing independents in the Victorian election on 26 November. On the question of whether they approved of the government continuing to ‘prop up’ native forest logging, 52% said they disapproved or strongly disapproved, while 51% disapproved or strongly disapproved of VicForests’ native forest logging operations. Melissa Lowe, who is running as an independent in Hawthorn, which is one of the three seats, says Liberal candidate John Pesutto needs to “break his silence” on when the Liberals will end native forest logging. Meanwhile, Labor is spending thousands of dollars on social media ads targeting Liberal candidates in seats it is unlikely to win but could go to teal independents, with Hawthorn being one of those seats.

  10. UK Cartoons:
    Ben Jennings on British parents skipping meals

    Kal on #cryptocurrency #ftx

    Andy Davey on #JeremyHunt #WinterOfDiscontent #CostOfLivingCrises

    Dave Brown on #RishiSunak #WinterOfDiscontent #Strikes #ToryCostOfGreedCrisis #MickLynch #RMTUnion #RailStrikes #TeachersStrike #NursesStrike #RoyalMailStrike

    Christian Adams on #JeremyHunt #RishiSunack #EnergyPrices #CostOfLivingCrisis

  11. Lisa Visentin looks at what we might see today when the report from independent inquiry into Morrison’s accumulation of ministries is released.
    _____________________
    Will give the tragics something to do for the day. Got to fill in thier day somehow.
    Am off to work, will check in at lunchtime.

  12. BK thanks for the roundup. That AFR story on the Torrens Island gas plant is quite a beat up. The SA government deal preserves only the new smaller 200MW plant to be kept as a backup, while the 1200MW main plant still closes. The amount of gas burnt will be far less.

    Have a good day all. I’ll be off interstate (to Melbourne) this afternoon for my first recreational flight in a long time. So I may not be posting much. Good luck to Labor, Green and teals in the Victorian election.

  13. Taylormade @ #319 Friday, November 25th, 2022 – 8:11 am

    Lisa Visentin looks at what we might see today when the report from independent inquiry into Morrison’s accumulation of ministries is released.
    _____________________
    Will give the tragics something to do for the day. Got to fill in thier day somehow.
    Am off to work, will check in at lunchtime.

    I note that you don’t think corruption of government is much of a thing, Taylormade. To be expected I guess. 😐

  14. Taylormade says:
    Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:11 am
    Lisa Visentin looks at what we might see today when the report from independent inquiry into Morrison’s accumulation of ministries is released.
    _____________________
    Will give the tragics something to do for the day. Got to fill in thier day somehow.
    Am off to work, will check in at lunchtime.

    —————–
    LOL Taylormade

  15. from Coorey’s article above –

    “At the time of writing, in 2½ sitting blocs since the election, the government secured the passage of 29 bills, and delivered a budget”.

  16. So, it wasn’t the internet imbroglio that cast Stuart Robert to the backbench, it was this:

    He lost his job as a minister in February 2016 after revelations he flew to Beijing, while a minister, to help a mining company in which he held an indirect stake.

    Also, this doesn’t surprise me, as it seems Robert and his mates sought to monetise every opportunity and make every post a winner:

    In one example of the concerns about his financial interests, online news site Crikey reported last November on Margerison’s ownership of disability services companies at the same time Robert was minister for the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/how-do-you-enter-the-corridors-of-power-maybe-go-via-the-backbench-20221124-p5c0zr.html

  17. Socrates says:
    Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:15 am
    BK thanks for the roundup. That AFR story on the Torrens Island gas plant is quite a beat up. The SA government deal preserves only the new smaller 200MW plant to be kept as a backup, while the 1200MW main plant still closes. The amount of gas burnt will be far less.

    Have a good day all. I’ll be off interstate (to Melbourne) this afternoon for my first recreational flight in a long time. So I may not be posting much. Good luck to Labor, Green and teals in the Victorian election.
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    Enjoy!

  18. C@T

    “He lost his job as a minister in February 2016 after revelations he flew to Beijing, while a minister, to help a mining company in which he held an indirect stake.

    Also, this doesn’t surprise me, as it seems Robert and his mates sought to monetise every opportunity and make every post a winner:”
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    Agreed, I’m detecting a trend in every one of Robert’s actions.

  19. Nigel Farage said the Conservative Party deserves to be “wiped out” after net migration to the UK hit a new record high of 504,000. The number for the 12 months to June this year was revealed by the Office for National Statistics this morning and it is 170,000 more than the previous post-war record of 331,000 in 2015.

    Mr Farage, the former leader of the Brexit Party, said: “These net migration figures are hard to take in. 500,000 is nearly double the previous record. The Tories deserve to be wiped out.” The ONS said the 504,000 figure was the result of an “unprecedented” combination of events, including the end of Covid lockdown restrictions and the war in Ukraine, with a surge in visas for foreign nationals to live, study and work in the UK. 


  20. Been Theresays:
    Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:01 pm
    Went to school with Peter Gleeson and his brother.

    Both came from a working class background and good lads.

    Don’t know what went wrong there with Peter.

    Murdoch happened. You just need a drop of poison to poison a container of milk.
    I remember 20 years Lachlan was considered the good and James the bad one. James left in disgust and Lachlan stayed. You know the rest.
    Now Lachlan sues another publication for defamation. Can it get any more ridiculous.
    Maybe the latest event will cleanse the soul of Peter.

  21. Holdenhillbillysays:
    Friday, November 25, 2022 at 8:42 am

    Nigel Farage said the Conservative Party deserves to be “wiped out” after net migration to the UK hit a new record high of 504,000. The number for the 12 months to June this year was revealed by the Office for National Statistics this morning and it is 170,000 more than the previous post-war record of 331,000 in 2015.

    Mr Farage, the former leader of the Brexit Party, said: “These net migration figures are hard to take in. 500,000 is nearly double the previous record. The Tories deserve to be wiped out.” The ONS said the 504,000 figure was the result of an “unprecedented” combination of events, including the end of Covid lockdown restrictions and the war in Ukraine, with a surge in visas for foreign nationals to live, study and work in the UK.

    Well they’ve got to cover for the workforce they lost through Brexit.

  22. Peter Gleason’s plagiarism was almost at CGAF stage. Like whole paragraphs from other journalists. Dr Freud would say he wanted to get caught. Why wouldn’t he just find a junior to do most of his actual work and then apply a layer of polish (well turdflavour really). Probably too cheap.


  23. C@tmommasays:
    Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:24 pm
    Douglas and Milko @ #256 Thursday, November 24th, 2022 – 10:22 pm

    nath,

    Thanks for belling there Billy Kaplan cat.

    Billy K, I was going to ask you whether you has posted here previously under a different moniker. Your style seemed really familiar

    Welcome back guytaur, good to see you posting!

    Don’t give nath the credit, it was Fulvio Sammut who perceived correctly that Billy Kaplan was, indeed, guytaur. Days ago.

    C@tmomma
    FYI, I agree with you regarding the argument you had with Billy regarding US politics
    I get Billy point that a lot of progressive plebiscites across red states won in the Mid-term. Is it because youth participation? I don’t know.
    You cannot campaign for them from opposition. The Tories will scare the public with help of media. More people will listen to you if you are in position of power.


  24. Upnorthsays:
    Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:29 pm
    Been There says:
    Thursday, November 24, 2022 at 10:01 pm

    Went to school with Peter Gleeson and his brother.

    Both came from a working class background and good lads.

    Don’t know what went wrong there with Peter.
    中华人共和国
    Peter was pretty good when he was editor at the Townsville Bulletin. Since he moved South he has fallen down the Rabbit Hole in a big way. Maybe that’s the Murdoch way.

    Won’t surprise me to see him end up on LNP Staff. Crisafulli cut his teeth politically in Townsville when Gleeso was editor of the Bully. Both now live on the Gold Coast.

    There you go. “Both now live on the Gold coast. “. They live in Sin city. 🙂

  25. ‘Won’t surprise me to see him end up on LNP Staff. Crisafulli cut his teeth politically in Townsville when Gleeso was editor of the Bully. Both now live on the Gold Coast.’

    How could you have a known plagiariser as a media adviser? ‘Is that another made-up contribution from Peter Gleason, Mr Crisafulli? Maybe he could work in a non public facing role.

    Really, the fact that even the Murdoch media sacked him shows that a serious line has been crossed.

  26. With close to $8ook of matched bets (whatever they are) Betfair has ‘settled’ in around $1.15 to $6.80 …you’ve all missed the Libs at $10 but I’m sure you’ll cope.

  27. Prediction: The lnp are going to get crushed on Saturday. The media will be dumbfounded that their ‘too close to call’ narrative will be blown out of the water by 730pm. I will be watching Credlins face, it’ll be the best entertainment.

    Also, I expect much fun from the scomo report.

  28. I see Kos Somaras has disappeared from Twitter, on the eve of an election, after his rant against Dan Andrews. Probably a bad career move for the Redbridge guy to get in bed with the Cookers.


  29. Socratessays:
    Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:38 am
    I have given up regularly reading the Age since the takeover but I snuck a peak this morning. Have Ninefax given up on Operation Danstruction?

    The front page this morning includes the damning article on Frydenberg and Morrison.

    The editorial can’t bring itself to endorse the Liberals, despite longing to. They are not undemocratic and unsuitable, merely “unprepared”.

    “ The arrogant or the unprepared? Not an easy choice

    This election presents a difficult choice for voters.
    There are dangers in returning Labor for a third term, but the Coalition is simply not ready to govern.”
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/the-arrogant-or-the-unprepared-not-an-easy-choice-20221124-p5c0w5.html

    Socrates
    Damned with faint praise
    or
    back hand compliment
    or
    Are age readers leaving in droves.
    or
    Internal Age polling not indicating LNP victory.

  30. Dog’s Brunch says:
    Friday, November 25, 2022 at 9:32 am
    Mrs Dog would say ‘there’s a PhD in that’ but Septics like to sit in their vehicles and record videos of them saying’ shit. He’s another but I recommend this guy…love the good ol’ boy drawl but wise words.
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    Well, he summed the situation up perfectly, and with that fantastic southern drawl to boot. Now he may be a tobacco dippin redneck bubba in his pickup but this was an excellent example of not judging a book by its cover. He nailed it.

  31. C@tmommasays:
    Friday, November 25, 2022 at 9:12 am
    Thanks, Ven.

    Rule #1 of politics: Don’t scare the horses!

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    I couldn’t resist this.

    Pot. Kettle. Black.

  32. What happened to Kos Samaras? I don’t frequent twitter so did not see it. Sonar?

    Find it interesting he would go off about Dan given he was a big cheerleader for the undemocratic intervention from recollection? And, also, his wife is a Minister isn’t she?

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