The flood of polling in the week after the budget is inevitably followed in the week after that. Here’s all I have:
• The tracking poll of Anthony Albanese’s personal ratings maintained by US pollster Morning Consult records no significant change, with Albanese starting November on 57% approval and 30% disapproval, down one and up two from the start of October.
• As reported by Anna Macdonald at The Mandarin, Electoral Commissioner Tom Rogers told the Joint Standing Committe on Electoral Matters the commission was struggling to attract staff at election time due to low pay and “bizarre behaviour” at polling places. Specifically, Rogers said the May federal election was marked by “people coming into the polling place and recording interactions with our staff, shouting at our staff, and some fairly bizarre behaviour that we haven’t seen previously”.
• Independent ACT Senator David Pocock has made a submission to the inquiry calling for the two territories to have six Senators serving six-year terms on the same staggered cycle that applies to the rest of the Senate, as distinct from the current situation where they have two Senators each whose terms are tied to the House.
Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 5:10 pm
Bloody idiot. All the good work being done through the $5 million program to help women prepare for elective positions and through having gender equity as an objective of the Fair Act is buried under a throwaway line. Puerile stuff.
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Sexist Pig more than a bloody idiot.
Sounded like he wants to bend her over his knee and give her a good spanking.
Sir Henry Parkes:
Agree completely.
Boerwar says:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 5:59 pm
TPOF
One outcome will be some horrible insights into the sad decay of the once-proud APS under nine years of Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison.
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I hope the outcome will be recommendations that will strengthen the independence of the public service. Unfortunately, even this cannot make the public service immune from a malevolent and malicious government (despite the urgings of at least one poster of manichean simple mindedness) but can at least demonstrate how a public service can be debauched and perverted by a corrupt government.
+1
What an absolute moron.
Asha @ #204 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 3:05 pm
+1
One might ask who was being more child like?
Boerwar at 5:59 pm
You can’t not mention The Rodent and his blazing the trail they continued along.
Taylormade says:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 6:03 pm
Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 5:10 pm
Bloody idiot. All the good work being done through the $5 million program to help women prepare for elective positions and through having gender equity as an objective of the Fair Act is buried under a throwaway line. Puerile stuff.
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Sexist Pig.
Sounded like he wants to bend her over his knee and give her a good spanking.
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He at least apologised (even if under pressure) and a Minister (Murray Watt) condemned it.
On the other hand our resident blind right eye commentator did not notice that a Liberal Senator stated that an illustrated book showing a female child in pants was ‘grooming’.
Utterly sickening, but you won’t see the Opposition under Dutton accepting that helping a gender dysphoric child or a gay one to accept themselves is not like an adult developing a relationship with a child in order to sexually prey on them.
And you certainly won’t see Taylormade criticise his side for this revolting piece of debauched thinking. Although that might be because Taylormade actually thinks the same way (not just that he’s one eyed).
Treasury gives green light for gas price intervention
Phillip Coorey
Treasury has given the government the green light to intervene and push down gas and coal prices temporarily, saying it was warranted by exceptional circumstances, and was a better approach than measures that would only worsen inflation, such as cash handouts.
An opening statement to Senate estimates read on behalf of Treasury Secretary Steven Kennedy said the increases in coal and gas prices caused by the war in Ukraine were of such a magnitude that they “bring into scope government intervention”.
“In summary, the effects of the Ukraine war are leading to a redistribution of income and wealth and disrupting markets. The national interest case for this redistribution is weak, and it is not likely to lead to a more efficient allocation of resources in the longer term.”
https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/treasury-gives-green-light-for-gas-price-intervention-20221108-p5bwdp
In the political world – Both of these are wrong
Female Nat senator being called a naughty little girl – by a Labor male politician
Labor Male prime minister being falsely accused of bullying by Lib/nat females
Majority of the corrupt media criticism played the sexist card by only criticising the Labor politician and ignoring the female lib/nats who insulted the prime minister by accusing him as being a bully
Ven 4:09
“ The reason Dan Andrews drives the likes of Peta Credlin, Peter Costello, Michael Kroger and the Victorian Liberal establishment crazy and people like Rex Douglas to believe in his “Socialist utopia” is because “Victoria is no longer the Liberal Party’s jewel in the crown” and “Massachusetts of Australia as per John Howard “.
Victorian Liberal establishment used to feel so special about themselves because they produced all the Liberal PMs till John Howard became PM for the misfortune of Australia. People like Peter Costello used to declare openly without any hesitation that Australia is built “Judeo-Christian ethos” although Australia is a secular country. What I mean is that Victorian Liberal establishment used to set the intellectual and social agenda of this country and everyone else followed it as if it is the gospel.
Now all that is torn to shreds because of Dan Andrews progressivism (or atleast that is what Victorian Liberal establishment believe, I think). That is the reason their hate towards him is so visceral.
I don’t think Dan Andrews set out to do that when he became Premier. It happened over a course of time because he was firm, forthright and able to communicate progressivism in words which are understandable to general public. That led the Liberal party to take more and more risks and try to capture the RWNJ votes like never before, which resulted in sane people and people in centre to move away from Liberal party.”
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That’s as plausible an explanation as I’ve heard for the Victorian situation. I’m sure Andrew’s is far from perfect but the apparent failure of the Libs to understand the secular 21st century appears to have hurt them badly. Rather than respond accordingly however, they seem to have dug in on their increasingly limited religious beliefs (less shared) and appealed to the RWNJs in an attempt to return to old times. Andrew’s seems to be in touch with Victorian values therefore he will by definition win comfortably.
dave @ #208 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 6:10 pm
We need Albanese to show some authority and move Madeleine King out of resources in a mini-reshuffle or the fossil fuel wars within Labor will again damage the party.
Sterle clearly is a dinosaur that needs to be managed out.
I note the failure of Labor bludgers to call for his head.
Lol Rex Douglas
Having worked in industry represented by the SDA for a decade, including almost becoming a shop steward until the store manager vetoed it, I’m pretty sympathetic to criticisms of the union. There are plenty of good people in the SDA, particularly the lower level officials and shop stewards, many of whom genuinely care about representing and fighting for their members, but something is deeply rotten up at the top.
Certainly it’s better than it used to be – the religious influence in particular seems to be wanting, and they are increasingly copping internal criticism from sections of the ALP membership that I think is forcing them to shape up a bit. However, I’m not sure I can really ever forgive them for some of the awful EBAs they thrust into us, typically misrepresenting the contents of the agreement and telling us in no uncertain terms that if we didn’t vote for it, whatever we get in its place will be worse.
I’m of the very real belief that the ALP’s close association with the SDA has played a not-insignificant role in both Labor’s present difficulties in attracting retaining many younger and working class voters. I can recall a distinct feeling of betrayal when I – a proudly left-wing union supporter – finally cottoned on to just how poorly served my colleagues and I had been by our union, and I imagine my experience is far from unusual among retail workers.
Rex:
Multiple Labor supporters here have already done so…
Except for a greater penetration of religious indocrination, I don’t think most Americans are all that different to most Australians.
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So, in broader terms, I don’t be agree. There is a different vibe. Part Wild West, part cult like, risk-taking vibe.
There is also a very large portion of people of privilege; white and/or male and/or older and/or rich and/or gun owning who are determined not to lose that power.
And… political affiliation is far more cultural.
‘Asha says:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 6:34 pm
Having worked in industry represented by the SDA for a decade, including almost becoming a shop steward until the store manager vetoed it, I’m pretty sympathetic to criticisms of the union. There are plenty of good people in the SDA, particularly the lower level officials and shop stewards, many of whom genuinely care about representing and fighting for their members, but something is deeply rotten up at the top.
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My criticism was not that posters were making criticisms of the SDA. Brickbats where brickbats are due, IMO.
My criticism was the total lack of balance being exhibited. There have been hundreds of obsessive posts sticking it to the SDA. The same posters have largely been silent on nine years of union gutting by the Coalition.
Asha @ #215 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 6:35 pm
I’ve only seen admonishments.
Surely you’d agree such dinosaurs be shown the door ..?
There are huge differences between Australian and US societies.
does the liberals want tim smiths car crash investigated peta credlin has lost any credability that she had buy saying somyurek is a champion against ceruption on the night of 60 minutes she said somyurek was one of the worst mps ever now the liberals are triying to re invent somyureks branch stacking due to his hqatrid of andrews when jasinta alan ttakes over hopefuly shortly after election liberals will not have the hate dan st uff
Asha @ #214 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 6:34 pm
Excellent insight.
Integrity Rexs wants to sack senators (with whom he disagrees) for a single sentence.
How ARE the multiple investigations into Thorpe going, BTW?
Aaron newton @ #220 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 6:41 pm
Don’t be in a rush to retire Dan so soon.
Jacinta Allen is the next best, but Andrews carries the rest of the crew on his back.
Bloody Hell.
The Voice Busters are going to hate this.
Co-Chairs Professor Megan Davis and Pat Anderson AO will address the @pressclubaust tomorrow where they will be talking about the establishment of a First Nations Voice enshrined in the Constitution.
Re the much maligned SDA, the leadership of that union was presumably voted in by SDA members, or at least those members who bothered to vote. They must have wanted conservative leadership.Did they vote wrong?
David and Anderson represent some very serious firepower. From wiki:
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Professor Megan Jane Davis is an Aboriginal Australian activist and international human rights lawyer. She was the first Indigenous Australian to sit on a United Nations body, and was Chair of the UN Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues. Davis is Pro vice-Chancellor, Indigenous, and Balnaves Chair in Constitutional Law at the University of New South Wales. She is especially known for her work on the Uluru Statement from the Heart.
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‘…Anderson worked as a legal secretary for the Woodward Royal Commission into Aboriginal Land Rights.[4] In the early 1990s Anderson became the CEO of Danila Dilba Aboriginal Health Service in Darwin. She held the positions of Chair of the National Aboriginal Community Controlled Health Organisation and Executive Officer of the Aboriginal Medical Services Alliance Northern Territory (AMSANT). She led the founding of the Cooperative Research Centre (CRC) for Aboriginal and Tropical Health in 1997, and when the Cooperative Research Centre was refunded in 2003 as The CRC for Aboriginal Health, she took on the role of chair.[3][5]
Anderson has spoken before the United Nations Working Group on Indigenous Populations.[citation needed] Together with Rex Wild QC, she co-authored the 2007 Little Children Are Sacred report on child abuse in the Northern Territory.[6][7]
Anderson is the Chairperson of the Lowitja Institute, Australia’s National Institute for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health Research.[8] She was Co-chair on the Referendum Council which consulted with hundreds of Indigenous people to deliver the historic Uluru Statement from the Heart in May 2017.[9][10]
In May 2020 Anderson would deliver the Lowitja O’Donoghue Oration at the Don Dunstan Foundation.[11]
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Also from Wiki:
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Thorpe has worked as the Aboriginal employment adviser for the Municipal Association of Victoria and was president of the Lakes Entrance Basketball Association for three years. She has also been a member of the school council of the Nowa Nowa Primary School, a steering committee for Indigenous administrators, and of the Institute of Public Administration Australia (Victoria). She worked as a project manager with the East Gippsland Shire Council,[9] Indigenous manager at Centrelink, and manager at Lake Tyers Aboriginal Training Centre.[8]
Thorpe was the co-chair of the Victorian NAIDOC Committee from 2014 to 2017.[10][11][12][9]
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Steve777 says:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 6:49 pm
Re the much maligned SDA, the leadership of that union was presumably voted in by SDA members, or at least those members who bothered to vote. They must have wanted conservative leadership.Did they vote wrong?
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The SDA leadership strongly controls internal elections. Troublemakers are quickly removed from the union, and therefore cannot be elected to higher positions.
The relationship between the union and the employers probably means that their employment would also come under pressure, and without union support this would be problematic for those people.
This control is demonstrated by the fact that all of the leadership have been Catholics, going back decades. SDA officials who get sent into Parliament have all been Catholics too.
i dont think the wanted conservative leadership in 2012 when chriss ketter was likely to be chalenged his rival was sacked with out reason sterl has ben a long time uselis senater not the first time he is made these sort of coment he praised the most sexist senater i can think of the t x nats senater barry osulivan for his work as chair of reajonal affairs committy he is basickly like x lib senaters hefernon mcdonald or plus he waled out on marles in 2019over setcas exbyulltion
Matt31 @ #190 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 5:27 pm
I was just out in the car and I listened to Peter Dutton’s speech about the IR Bill (if someone could link the Hansard of it I’d appreciate it because it was a doozy that I just have to highlight). It was so redolent of the old shibboleths that Howard retailed and which haven’t changed in 20 years. Did you know when an employer and their employees get around the table to negotiate it results in much better outcomes because they all know what the business can bear?
No, I didn’t either because cold, hard reality has told us that the employer will get his employees over a barrel, not around a table, and tell them they can take his offer, or leave the business. And which he knows, when the Coalition are in power Centrelink looks on very dimly.
Anyway, I listened to a Labor MP give his speech on the way back home and he made a very salient point. He said that, without this Bill there will be no Enterprise Bargaining around the table because there will be no bargains and there will be no table.
can any one name one thing sterl has contributed in his time in senate since 2005 i cant he should retire it is a bad look with labors strong track record on womans rights to keep him there yes it may have been one coment but thats no excuse
Last call to enrol to vote in Vic – closes in about 30 minutes
nath @ #228 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 6:54 pm
What’s wrong with being Catholic, per se?
You and your generalisations, nath, are just silly. There’s more than one type of Catholic, as I have exhaustively explained before. One other example is my local Senator, Deborah O’Neill. She is a Catholic but she believes in contraception, SSM, Divorce and LGBTQI+ individuals.
Anyway, your attitudes and behaviour towards women are way worse than most Catholics. So I don’t think you’re in any position to criticise.
In the ten years that I was a member of the SDA, I don’t remember being notified once that an internal election was happening. No letter, no email, no signs up in the break room, no visit from union reps to let us know and encourage us to vote. You have to actively seek out this information.
Given that this is a union heavily made up of uneducated and politically disengaged members, including many of Australia’s youngest workers, you can imagine what this would do for turnout.
he was quite condesending as if it seems like he dis respects woman he behaved badly at the wa conference in 2019 discusted that albanse would dare to sack the sexist johnsuch coments would never be made to a male mp
C@tmomma says:
Anyway, your attitudes and behaviour towards women are way worse than most Catholics. So I don’t think you’re in any position to criticise.
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Really? I must have committed a litany of crimes against women for that to be the case. In your opinion, what are my top 10 atrocities?
Asha says:
Tuesday, November 8, 2022 at 7:08 pm
In the ten years that I was a member of the SDA, I don’t remember being notified once that an internal election was happening. No letter, no email, no signs up in the break room, no visit from union reps to let us know and encourage us to vote. You have to actively seek out this information.
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You probably did vote Asha. But were not actually holding the pen.
how ever in particular qld senaters lnpian mcdonald and barry osulivan made coments like that one on a daley basis and it got little coverige until osulivan made sexist coments at hanson yung and in stead of the then president calling him out decided to cick the then greens leader out and not osulivan for constantly making sexist coments at least littleproud got rid of him from senate in 2019 he was probaly themost nasty ever senater
Jesus freaking kerrist! Aaron newton! Give the dog a bone about Glenn Sterle! he’s exactly the sort of man that Labor needs to be as a Senator. He left his Public High School at 17, became a furniture removalist and ended up owning his own trucking business and received the Centenary Medal for Services to the Transport Industry. Then went on to defeat Peter Cook in WA, no mean feat, and then to represent Labor in the Senate.
Your jihad against Glenn Sterle just seems vindictive.
nath,
I don’t have to dance to your tune. I’ll just say one thing, which a number of us have been saying for months now.
Apologise to zoomster.
Executive at Australia’s pesticides authority allegedly urinated on staff at function, Senate hears
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/nov/08/executive-at-australias-pesticides-authority-allegedly-urinated-on-staff-at-function-senate-hears
Integrity Rexy
Spot Whish-Wilson’s basic error of fact?
The $64 questions are whether the previous Minister for Agriculture was told, and if so, what he did about it.
Whish-Wilson should be managed out for getting a basic fact wrong.
Andrew Earlwood
“ I also think that it is likely that between them, ScoMo and BoJo convinced Biden that the Americans could effectively subcontract the project to Britain, and hence there was no need to worry about whether the AUKUS submarine project may adversely impact of the USN’s own demands. In fact, it may still be the case that – with the usual blind optimism that Fort Fumble always seems to project when signing onto massive defence projects – that still will be the outcome: some wishful thinking in next March’s report at the end of the 18 month feasibility study is likely to recommend an “evolved Astute class” sub (ie. with a new reactor, American combat and weapons systems) and a totally unrealistic timeframe and budget. This will be an exercise in magical thinking worthy of Harry Potter.”
I fear you are right. Talk of an “evolved Astute” class will be strong evidence of RAN self delusion.
The Astutes themselves were originally an “evolved Trafalgar” class that, by the time a new reactor was adopted, which required a larger hull, was an entirely new design, taking eight years to complete.
Once again the UK SSN(R) class will have a new reactor in a new, larger hull. The design will take five years best case (2026) or eight if no faster than last time (2029). We won’t even know the estimated price before then.
In the past I advocated the RAN adopting the UK SSN design. That preference died the moment UK defence minister Ben Wallace said Astute was going out of production and the RN was moving onto the next class. Then any time and cost advantage for a UK design was lost. We would be starting from scratch will all the risks that entailed.
This exercise (UK promoting Astute class then saying it wasn’t available) was a classic “bait and switch”. The UK went from best to worst SSN option (technically) that day. Politically the RAN agreeing to a joint RAN – RN sub build has the “advantage” of helping reelect the UK Torries. That is all. Suffrens or Virginia Block IVs are both preferable to that.
On the Labor idiot who called Bridget McKenzie a “little girl” in the Senate today, it wasn’t accidental but a deliberate sexist, demeaning jib. Shame. His greatest contribution to Labor’s re-election will be his resignation. Some boys reach middle age without ever maturing.
Must be taking his lead from Dutton who often seeks to sexualize politics:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/nov/08/liberal-senators-abc-grooming-comments-denounced-as-deeply-offensive-alex-antic-play-school
Ian Hanke @IanHanke
On behalf of Peter Reith’s family I release the following statement on his death.
It is with deep sadness that we confirm that following a brave battle with Alzheimer’s disease Peter Reith died peacefully on the afternoon of 8 November 2022.
Rex:
Depends on what you mean by “shown the door.” Were I a Western Australian, I certainly wouldn’t support him being preselected in future, and given how long he’s been around, I don’t think a tap on the shoulder and a suggestion that he enjoy an early retirement when he’s next up for re-election would be a bad idea at all. I’m sure he’s copping a bollocking behind the scenes from his colleagues right now.
But apart from that, how exactly do you manage him out? He’s a legitimately elected Senator who has only recently begun a new six year term. He’s not going to be disendorsed for a single idiotic and misogynistic remark. Were there a consistent pattern of dumb gaffes and / or poor behaviour towards woman, that would be another story, but that doesn’t seem to be the case here.
Nath:
True!
This is more of sackable and very offensive comment by a senator Liberal senator Alex Antic accused the ABC of “grooming children”
Where is the same criticism from the corrupt media
Holdenhillbilly @ #245 Tuesday, November 8th, 2022 – 7:28 pm
Is this true or just another silly twitter person taking the mickey?
If it’s true I had no idea Reith had Alzheimer’s. Very sad as he wasn’t that old.
A plan by ministers to review or repeal all EU laws on the UK statute book by the end of 2023 has suffered another setback after the discovery of 1,400 additional pieces of legislation.
Rishi Sunak has started backing away from his ambitious proposals to scrub Britain’s statute book of unwanted EU laws, by abandoning his promise to complete the exercise within 100 days.
Now ministers, in conjunction with the National Archives, have discovered the large bureaucratic task has got even bigger and that instead of 2,400 EU laws to review or repeal, officials may have to trawl through 3,800.
Grant Shapps, the new business secretary, is said by allies to be keen to slow down the review of EU laws after being warned that hundreds of extra staff across Whitehall would be needed to complete the task. “We will slow things down to a sane pace,” said one ally of Shapps.