Morgan polls, SEC Newgate poll, JSCEM submissions (open thread)

A burst of enthusiasm for the monarchy, steady support for federal Labor, and some other stuff.

Two contributions from Roy Morgan: its weekly report video tells us this week’s federal polling has Labor’s lead unchanged at 53.5-46.5, without offering any information on primary votes, and it has an SMS poll of 1012 respondents conducted on Sunday that found a 60-40 split in favour of retaining the monarchy over becoming a republic, albeit it might be faulted for having been conducted at an uncommonly opportune moment for monarchist sentiment.

The Australian also reported yesterday that SEC Newgate polling found 57% of Victorians were optimistic about the direction of the state; cost of living, health care and employment as the top priorities; “nearly half” trusting Daniel Andrews to lead the state through pandemic challenges compared with 16% for Matthew Guy; and 57% holding the view that the state was headed in the right direction, the highest of any state. Conversely, 53% of New South Wales respondents felt the state was heading in the wrong direction and only 35% believed the Perrottet government was doing a good job, the worst results for any state, although sample sizes in some cases would have been very small. The polling was conducted from August 31 to September 5 from a sample of 1502, 600 of whom were in Victoria.

Finally, the first batch of submissions – 212 of them – have been published from the Joint Standing Committe on Electoral Matters’ inquiry into the federal election. I haven’t had time to read any of them myself, but there are a good many notable names featured, though nothing yet from the parties.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. A four day work week when we have critical labour shortages is insane. Effectively increasing all wages by 20% is insane.
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    Shoebridge is insane!

  2. Alpha Zero says:
    Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 2:00 pm
    Have you ever seen the way that Taylormade hits a 3-iron?

    The safest place to be would be beside his bed…
    中华人民共和国
    LOL Taylormade

  3. BK says:
    Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 2:16 pm
    A four day work week when we have critical labour shortages is insane. Effectively increasing all wages by 20% is insane.
    ______
    Shoebridge is insane!
    中华人民共和国
    I have gone Troppo. Is that the same?

  4. UK Cartoons:













    Andrew Fraser #TheQueue has been fascinating Britain for the last few days not just for why people are in it, but questions about fairness, celebrities and VIP lanes. A #cartoon #QueueForTheQueen

  5. BK at 2:16 pm
    Think of it as an incentive for management to modernize, update, automate and innovate. They’ve had an easy ride in recent decades, no need for all that when they can screw down workers’ wages and conditions or import cheap labour under handy dandy ‘skills’ migration schemes.
    Or you could think of it as workers getting what they are owed as workers share of gdp has continued to slide. The ‘executive class’ needless to say have seen their share going up and and up.

  6. Oakeshott Country @ #93 Saturday, September 17th, 2022 – 4:44 am

    Ray, Do you follow the Dons in the RL at all?

    I’m a Rugby Union fan if anything OC, Rotherham Titans is the local team who’ve been at a decent standard last 20 years or so

    Rugby League interest really picks up t’other side (north) of Barnsley, not so much down here at the bottom end of the county

    I know the Dons were the consistent wooden spoon for donkey’s years back in the day

  7. Boerwar @ #99 Saturday, September 17th, 2022 – 2:12 pm

    A four day work week when we have critical labour shortages is insane.

    It’s neutral, if not slightly beneficial. If there are more jobs than there are people to do them, you’re not going to fix that with a 5, 6, or 7 day work-week. Give people an extra free day, and some of them will choose to spend it working to earn some additional income.

    Instead of each person having the capacity to do one job, some people take on 1.25 jobs. It’s a small net improvement in working capacity.

    Effectively increasing all wages by 20% is insane.

    If productivity goes up (or even just stays the same) then that’s not at all what it does.

  8. Once again, I will say that all these very important potential problems seemingly posed by the 4 day work week are solved in “The Four Day Work Week” by Robert E Grosse (2018). Greens policy is based on his and others’ work.

    a r, purposefully bad-faith takes on Greens policies are what too much of this lot do best.


  9. BKsays:
    Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 2:16 pm
    A four day work week when we have critical labour shortages is insane. Effectively increasing all wages by 20% is insane.
    ______
    Shoebridge is insane!

    Thanks BK because people on this blog were singing praises of Shoebridge I was afraid to counter it and roll with the punches after that. 🙂

  10. The Greens have been working full time to achieve nothing for 30 years. They know that nobody would notice if they had worked four day weeks for 30 years.

  11. Boerwar at 3:02 pm
    Your inner puritan is showing. Heaven forbid that people have more leisure time. All those ‘idle hands’, tsk tsk tsk.

  12. “The High Court has upheld a state law that undermines a core guarantee of liberty and will disproportionately punish Indigenous offenders, explains Kieran Pender.”
    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/law-crime/2022/09/17/the-high-courts-disturbing-ruling-preventive-detention

    The WA government* had nothing to lose challenging this case, Most thinking people in Australia
    would support this outcome. The two defendants were hardly the role models you’d want in this case
    anyway, sounding like violent thugs (robbery with violence)

    * A favorite with the ALP luvvies


  13. yabba says:
    Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 11:31 am

    Taylormade @ #59 Saturday, September 17th, 2022 – 11:25 am

    “Victoria’s powerful police union claims the force is on the brink of a crisis, with officers routinely taking an hour to attend high-priority callouts such as armed robberies and home invasions”
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    Spot fires everywhere at the minute.
    That’s why I sleep with my 3 iron beside the bed each night.

    Typical TailoredMerde.
    “The number of criminal incidents recorded by Victoria Police in the year to 30 June 2022 was 341,367, down 9.6% from 377,487 incidents recorded in the same period last year.”
    https://www.crimestatistics.vic.gov.au

    You are full of it. Continuously, always, relentlessly, just plain wRONg.

    Thier, thier, SUKKAR.

    Not only that, the police force has grown under Labor:
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/thick-blue-line-victoria-builds-the-country-s-biggest-police-force-20211109-p59767.html

    The weird thing about this, it was published in the SMH, crap to crappy for the age?

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/union-warns-of-police-callout-crisis-as-opposition-pledges-to-publish-response-times-20220916-p5bimg.html

  14. Blatant thievery from the taxpayer

    Melbourne Girls Grammar buys historic Punt Road mansion for $8M while receiving public funding of $9M and $30M in parent fees or over $30K a year. Time to stop funding any school that charges fees over the Schooling Resource Standard of $15665 https://t.co/tneBDQyzgF— Dr David Zyngier (@dzyngier) September 16, 2022

  15. The DNA of Police Unions is on full display in Queensland

    They do everything to evade scrutiny – hence affiliated with the Liberal Party (who hanker for a Police State where they rule time in memorial)

    Wouldn’t trust them as far as you could kick the Titanic under water

  16. For the last ten years the Greens ha e shown bad faith by criticizing Labor as being the same as the Coalition.
    It was a stinking lie spewed with Goebbelsian repetition.
    But Geez, question the Greens’ policy brainfarts on killing the Voice, getting rid of our defence equipment, killing the cattle industry, the sheep industry, the cotton industry, the almond industry and the uranium industry and they start squealing about ‘bad faith’.

  17. p
    I would gladly have worked an 8 day fortnight on the same pay!
    Only someone with zip real world experience or a populist fanatic would lay that as good in all circumstances across the economy.

  18. Boerwar says:
    Saturday, September 17, 2022 at 4:31 pm

    Lets make a list of all the school systems in the world that operate on 4 day weeks.
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    Just in the U.S

    Four-day school weeks are used in over 1,600 schools across 24 states, according to a 2021 study published in Education Finance and Policy.

  19. Bore: are you suggesting that cows only need to be milked 5 days a week? If so – and this is a true fact, then I can see your point as to the evils of a 4 day week.

  20. Regarding the US polls – the fact that they only have the Democrats a few points up (3.9% on average, per Simon Katich’s comment) should be concerning. The Cook Partisan Voting Index (PVI – a measure of how a given area “tilts” politically in a neutral election) value for the 218th House of Representative seat is R+4.0. That means that in an election where the Democrats lead the Republicans nationwide by 4.0% of the vote, 217 seats will go R, 217 go D, and this seat – MI-08 – will be a coin-flip.

    Of course, if the Democrats’ nationwide vote tally is less than 4% ahead of the Republican tally…well.

  21. “ A-E
    Twice a day 7 days a week. Not that the Greens urbsters would have a clue about real farming.”

    ____

    So … if the ‘standard’ working week was variously 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 days … that would actually make fuck all difference to dairy farming. No?

  22. Dairy farmers are notorious whiners. Apparently their life choice to handle cows entitles them to tell everyone how they get up at 3 am, ad infinitum.

  23. A-E
    FMD.
    If farmers all over the world worked a four day week the world be an entertaining place! Forget milk, cheese and butter. Think fruit rotting on the bushes. And so on and so forth.

  24. If ‘urbsters’ are required to be forever grateful for farmers, then surely every piece of technology invented in cities, every service required by farmers, every medical procedure done in towns and cities should also be specially thanked for. But we are bigger than that.

  25. nath, who said we aren’t grateful for technological advance? We are.

    It’s you that’s not grateful for the work done by farmers.

    You are smaller, for that.

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