The Australian reports the second Newspoll since the election has produced an even weaker result for the Coalition than the first four weeks ago, with Labor’s two-party lead out from 56-44 to 57-43. Labor’s primary vote is steady at 37%, with the Coalition down two to 31% – their equal worst result in Newspoll history, matching the third poll under the Rudd government in February-March 2008 – with the Greens up one to 13%, One Nation up one to 7% (their strongest result in three years) and the United Australia Party steady on 2%.
Anthony Albanese is steady on 61% approval and up three on disapproval to 29%, while Peter Dutton is down two on approval to 35% and up two on disapproval to 43%. Albanese’s lead as preferred prime minister has widened from 59-25 to 61-22. The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1505.
Taylormadesays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:08 pm
Sounds like someone wants to avoid the checks of an properly run election.
Boerwar
“ Maybe an adult from the Teals? Wilkie would be a good choice.”
I agree. There should be a crossbencher on the defence committee because the LNP did badly politicise defense in the previous term. There will be a need to get some public support for expensive decisions Labor will have to make.
But the crossbencher can and should be chosen with care. Wilkie would be fine, as would some (not all) Teals. Thorpe would be a disaster.
I had a look at the Teals policy websites during the election. They were not all the same. Steggal and Pocock had quite balanced views of AUKUS and was mainly grumpy about past spending failures. Others would be more difficult. Wilkie would be best, and have genuine knowledge to contribute. He could ask good questions.
zoomster @ #644 Tuesday, September 6th, 2022 – 6:31 pm
Froganese? I thought Albo was Italian, not French.
zoomster at 5.16 pm
You may be right about Senator Thorpe. Your view about her may be correct, but, as a young girl once asked an older girl in a boat on Macquarie Harbour around the time of the 1938 Day of Mourning and Protest, “what if it isn’t?” A key question for all pollies.
Here is a lawyer’s report of some of Senator Thorpe’s concerns from a month ago:
https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/voice-to-parliament-may-threaten-first-nations-sovereignty-warns-thorpe/?fbclid=IwAR3jTR3lDgVyoUvP6_DDUM-iwL_-HoXNfxRuneYiDBosBmejyvIUTsxWpJ4
The lawyer seems somewhat superficial. Some of Senator Thorpe’s concerns seem to be based on confusion. She is no lawyer and probably has few, if any, legal advisors.
The confused concern is that creating an advisory body to Parliament entrenched in the Constitution would be undermine Indigenous sovereignty and self-determination.
Assuming the Voice enhances Indigenous self-determination, it would not undermine Indigenous sovereignty at all. Part of the confusion of Senator Thorpe (and some Aboriginal activists) is to misconstrue as a legal issue what is really a political issue, that is the position of Indigenous peoples within Australian society. No Australian court is going to decide that issue positively, and, to the extent that the High Court majority in the Yorta Yorta case (Gaudron and Kirby JJ dissenting) did so negatively, by simply reasserting an old colonial denial of Aboriginal sovereignty, that understanding could be readily changed, but only as a result of a political process, not a legal one.
Sovereignty is a complex concept. For a useful essay by Marcia Langton about it see:
https://www.atns.net.au/understanding-sovereignty
Wh-what?
Am I missing something? What is that even supposed to mean?
Thorpe may also perceive the Voice as undermining her power as a Senator.
I am frustrated I am forced into voting for Andrews when I think there are some serious issues around Crown Casino that should be investigated. The limitations of our democracy are annoying.
C@tmomma says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:32 pm
zoomster @ #645 Tuesday, September 6th, 2022 – 6:31 pm
‘Sussan Ley
@sussanley
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7m
It won’t be easy under Kermit the Froganese ‘
Well, there we go.
The killer line has been found!
Because adult Opposition.
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I’m hoping she didn’t have help coming up with that line because one lame buffoon is more than enough. It’s quite the follow-up to “there are no EV utes”. She’s building up quite the repertoire.
Asha says:
Am I missing something? What is that even supposed to mean?
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Kermit the Frog once said ‘It’s not easy being Green’.
The Liberal line was ‘It won’t be easy under Albanese’.
Probably also hinting at Labor being Green surrogates etc. Something BW might have come up with tbh.
nathsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:50 pm
Is he your local Member?
Asha
She cunningly set this up by making a speech saying that (as they’re indexed) the pension rises would have happened even if Kermit the Frog was Prime Minister…
To think that Shorten was ridiculed because of his zingers…..
The Ley tweet comes with a video which gives a bit of context. Although it’s a stretch. Still not getting the Kermit thing though.
https://twitter.com/sussanley/status/1567065558633545729
Barney in Cherating says:
Is he your local Member?
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Don’t be intentionally obtuse Barney, you have enough trouble being unintentionally obtuse.
Dr D
In the absence of a Voice the vexed issue remains standing.
Cat, Chronus, Asha
“ Sussan Ley@sussanley·7m
It won’t be easy under Kermit the Froganese”
How does that even make sense? Is she having a liquid lunch with Barnaby?
Ley?
All tips and no iceberg.
C@tmomma says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:28 pm
Who encouraged and facilitated it? The Morrison government.
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Agreed, add to that those who too out the building handouts and other commth subsidies
Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:56 pm
I thought she was being all iceberg …
lettuce, that is.
Nath / Confessions / Zoomster:
Okay. Wow.
All I can think of is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOoHLS_Guc8
Dr Doolittle
“ Socrates pointed out 6 weeks or so ago that the government could regulate Qantas, e.g. by setting minimum conditions for employing its staff. There would certainly be some head of power in the Constitution suitable for this. Qantas obviously can’t go offshore.”
Yes I once worked in Federal Transport. The Federal Department (CASA and the Minister) has sweeping powers to control any aspect of an airlines operations that affect safety. This can include staffing levels, training and maintenance.
After 11 September 2001 further powers were added regarding airline security for passengers and staff, ground and airside.
In short the Federal Minister can control just about every aspect of an Aussie airline other than IR. Even then, they can insist on training and security vetting of staff including sub contractors. The Minister can ground an airline in whole or part for failure to comply.
This is why I suggested a few nights ago it is past time for CASA to issue QANTAS a please explain. I fear the spirit of Liberal era soft touch regulation lives on. It was not always so in airlines. The laws haven’t changed.
The neo-Stalinists are going to set interest rates and sack the Reserve Bank Board Chair.
Comrades, here is the list.
If they are going to set interest rates then there is no need for the Reserve Bank Board at all.
Classic case of Stalinist overkill.
Fess:
LMAO, she is getting utterly roasted in that thread!
Soc
Screwing baggage handlers?
Asha says:
Okay. Wow.
All I can think of is this:
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the beautiful Anna Coren, haven’t seen that Chaser stuff since it aired. She was made to look ridiculous on Today Tonight but has gone on to have a really good career at CNN doing serious stuff.
Given prudential lending rules, the only people who will be in trouble are those who lied (a lot) on their mortgage applications and those who lose their jobs. Even there, if you bought any time before the middle of 2021 (and 6 months later in Brisbane, Adelaide and some regions) you would still come out measurably ahead if forced to sell.
However, given the way Australian politics works no doubt the Federal and State Governments will find some way to protect these people if things get too bad.
In other news, Scott Morrion’s Wikipedia page has received a few recent updates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Morrison
It doesn’t matter who the leader of the liberal party is
Lib/nats are already surprising people that they can be more incompetent in opposition then they were in government
People thought Nelson was bad as leader , then came Turnbull he was just as bad , then came Abbott who was worst then both Nelson and Turnbull, then Turnbull had a second go he was even worse then his first attempt, then Morrison came along and he made Nelson, Abbott ,Turnbull look like geniuses , now in opposition
Dutton is showing he is going to be the worst one yet
Shellbell
Australia 5/44 against NZ chasing 233 in 1st one day international.
The Chinese ambassador on 7:30 is doing a Comical Ali!
Australia 5/44 against NZ chasing 233 in 1st one day international.
Ven
Will Aaron Finch EVER make it to double figures these dayas?
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Rex Douglassays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:27 pm
As each day passes I get more and more concerned with this fed Labor Govt and it’s Morrison-like marketing that falls short on outcomes.
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No Rex
You are getting more and more concerned because this government doing politically well in polls by doing exactly opposite of what you want them to do.
They are showing how wrong you are and you don’t like it.
Great interview by Ferguson, up there with the Hockey budget takedown.
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Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:21 pm
The Greens cannot be trusted on national security matters. Shoebridge is compromised on this. When elected he announced that his intention was to make trouble. Apart from that the Greens want to gut the ADF.
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I don’t like Greens on many issues but I don’t like Shoebridge at all since the time he was NSW MLC.
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Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:24 pm
Maybe an adult from the Teals? Wilkie would be a good choice.
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I agree.
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Boerwarsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:28 pm
Lambie knows more about national security than Shoebridge. She is also commited to national security.
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If government has to pick one from cross bench in Senate, then Lambie is okay.
I’m surprised Boerwar hasn’t nominated Jordon Steele-John for the gig.
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Torchbearersays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:04 pm
Q: As each day passes I get more and more concerned with this fed Labor Govt and it’s Morrison-like marketing that falls short on outcomes.
They have been in for just over 3 months…..the enormous challenges of this country will take many, many years to fix and get real outcomes. This type of childish, short term politicking is what makes long-term planning so hard.
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As each day passes I get more and more concerned with Rex.
Labor and Liberal do a dirty deal
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nathsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:08 pm
Rex, I can only admire the mental gymnastics that makes possible the Vic Labor government free of any fault but the Federal Labor government ‘Morrison like’.
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Touche’ nath.
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Upnorthsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:30 pm
Rex Douglas says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:27 pm
As each day passes I get more and more concerned with this fed Labor Govt and it’s Morrison-like marketing that falls short on outcomes.
中华人民共和国
Rex, if you are reading, Taylormade seems to have gotten ahold of your profile and seems to be posting his usuals.
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Lol cobber! I am chortling. 🙂
Whats this talk about Qantas going bust and the Govt buying it? What have I missed?
First thing that should happen is if there is any danger of Qantas going bust would be for the Government and all other politicians to get all its trouts out of the gifted Qantas Chairmans Club and other club memberships – because it is patronage that could (and does) influence sensible policy decisions about what to do with Qantas. That rort should end immediately. It is scandalous sitting in Canberra Airport watching the politicians of all stripes run for the club to have their shit ham and cheese toasted sandwich.
Qantas will not be allowed to go under. But under no circumstances should Govt fund a bailout without some significant equity and control.
The management of Qantas are not a nice group.
I reckon if the Govt ever got hold of it they should open up the Chairmans Club to let everyone visit. A bit like the pool scene from Caddyshack.
Simon Davis
@SimonDavisTas
Replying to
@nickschadegg
and
@sussanley
Amazing that someone who literally added an extra S to her name that already had two of them *because of numerology* would try to make someone else’s name into a joke.
Astonishing!
Do not often watch 7.30. Was pleasingly surprised this evening to see the Chinese Ambassador on. Ferguson does not allow alot of room for answers to be given. She had quite a few questions to get through. Perhaps a longer form of interview would be better. He dealt with it well especially given English is not his native tongue. I am always impressed by people who can speak different languages and have the capacity to do so in an environment like that.
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BKsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:40 pm
Australia 5/44 against NZ chasing 233 in 1st one day international.
Ven
Will Aaron Finch EVER make it to double figures these dayas?
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I hope he does BK, I hope he does.(grimace emoji)
At the moment, He is in a rut.
Bludgers
My contributions (such as they are) will be somewhat diminished over coming weeks as we depart for Italy and France tomorrow. We’ll be in Italy for their election so hope to provide a few observations from the coal face. Keep up the great work as I look forward to all your interpretations of events during this time to keep me informed.
Regards to all.
Have a great time, Cronus. I’ll be thinking of you as I pull the Dawn Patrols together.
BK says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 7:39 pm
The Chinese ambassador on 7:30 is doing a Comical Ali!
You have to admire him for going on, he was too nervous to make a good clarke and dawe skit, material was good though.
“ Sussan Ley
@sussanley
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7m
It won’t be easy under Kermit the Froganese”
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In addition to being idiotic, it takes some chutzpah to reference one’s political enemies to Kermit when one resembles a tree frog with a bad meth habit, sporting a straggly street walker wig.
Ven says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 8:02 pm
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Upnorthsays:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 6:30 pm
Rex Douglas says:
Tuesday, September 6, 2022 at 5:27 pm
As each day passes I get more and more concerned with this fed Labor Govt and it’s Morrison-like marketing that falls short on outcomes.
中华人民共和国
Rex, if you are reading, Taylormade seems to have gotten ahold of your profile and seems to be posting his usuals.
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Lol cobber! I am chortling.
中华人民共和国
Chortle away cobber and hope you all good matey.