The Australian has today published a Newspoll result of state voting intention in Victoria, which I have added as an introductory note to my earlier post covering general electoral developments in the state. I am not sure what the deal is with Newspoll’s federal polling – plainly it has not returned to its earlier schedule of a poll every three weeks, as there would otherwise have been one on Monday.
We do have two new attitudinal polls from the Australia Institute, one posing an array of stimulating questions on the potential for conflict with China. This encompassed both an Australian sample of 1003 and a Taiwanese sample of 1002, the survey work being conducted by international market research firm Dynata.
Among many other things, the Australian end of the survey found 47% expecting a Chinese armed attack on Australia either soon (9%) or “sometime” (38%), with only 19% opting for never and 33% uncommitted. Twenty-one per cent felt Australia would be able to defend itself from China without international assistance, compared with 60% who thought otherwise, and 57% anticipate such support would be forthcoming from the United States compared with 11% who didn’t and 19% who opted for “it depends”. Thirty-five per cent would back the US and Australia to win such a conflict compared with 8% for lose and 26% for a draw of some description.
Thirty-seven per cent felt the Australian people would be prepared to go to war if China threatened military action against Australia, effectively equal to the 38% who thought otherwise. Twenty-six per cent were prepared for Australia to go to war to help Taiwan gain independence compared with 33% who weren’t and 41% for uncommitted. Framed a little differently, 14% strongly agreed and 23% less strongly agreed that Australia should “send its defence forces to Taiwan to fight for their freedom … if China incorporated Taiwan”, compared with 20% for disagree and 9% for strongly disagree.
The Taiwanese end of the survey is beyond this site’s scope, thought it’s interesting to note that 41% felt optimistic with respect to the future for Taiwan compared with 40% for neutral and only 20% for pessimistic. The survey was conducted between August 13 and 16 – Nancy Pelosi’s visit was on August 2 and China’s military exercises followed from August 4 to 7.
A second report from the Australia Institute provides results of a poll conducted back in April on the seemingly less pressing subject of “wokeness”, a concept that meant nothing to 43% of those surveyed, ranging from only 22% of those aged 18 to 29 to 59% of those aged 60 and over. Forty-nine per cent of the former cohort owned up to being woke, decreasing with arithmetic precision to 9% for the latter, while around 30% for each of the five age cohorts identified as “not woke”. Interestingly, Coalition and Labor voters produced similar results, with Greens and One Nation voters deviating in the manner you would expect. The poll was conducted from April 5 to 8 from a sample of 1003, so the sub-sample sizes for the results cited above are not great, however intuitively likely the results might be.
Also:
• Anthony Galloway of the Sun-Herald identifies possible successors to Scott Morrison in Cook: Mark Speakman, moderate-aligned state Attorney-General and member for Cronulla; Melanie Gibbons, state member for Holsworthy, who unsuccessfully sought preselection for the Hughes at the federal election; Carmelo Pesce, the mayor of Sutherland Shire; and Alex Cooke, identified only as a “party member”.
• The Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters has called for submissions to its inquiry into the 2022 federal election. Matters specifically touched up on by the terms of reference include political donation and truth-in-advertising laws, enfranchisement of New Zealand citizens living in Australia and “proportional representation of the states and territories in the parliament”, the latter seemingly referring to the possibility of adding extra seats for the territories in the Senate.
• The Australian Parliamentary Library has published a “quick guide” on the technicalities of when the next federal election might be held, together with a handy calendar showing when state and local elections are due through to 2006.
• No fewer than twelve candidates have nominated for Western Australia’s North West Central by-election on September 17, with Labor not among them, for a seat with only 11,189 voters. As well as the Nationals and the Liberals, there are two candidates of the Western Australia Party, one being hardy perennial Anthony Fels, plus the Greens, One Nation, Legalise Cannabis, Liberal Democrats, No Mandatory Vaccination, the Small Business Party and two independents. My guide to the by-election can be found here.
Late Riser @ #45 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 9:29 am
As a US commentator speculated, Late Riser, Trump could have very well knowingly taken those sort of documents to use as bargaining chips in any future legal action against him. Sort of, if you don’t let me off, I’ll blow the place up by releasing this into the public realm! And I believe he wouldn’t have a second thought about it.
Kim Rubenstein puts her finger on it wrt the PEP-11 decision by Morrison and I bet he knew this too so it would give him a Get Out of Jail Free card after the election if he won:
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/08/27/exclusive-morrison-may-have-acted-unlawfully-secret-ministry
zoomster @ #48 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 9:33 am
I think Kos Samaras is a loose polling unit.
Stickers anyone?
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i hope albanese still govins when the inquiries in to robodebt and morrisons ministries how ever would not be good if they just focus onformer government however the liberals roil comition in to unions was politicial and did not find much new acsept therehsu was worse then believed
Socrates
I haven’t seen this particular article but jokes aside I have often perceived there is a significant sub-set of engineers who are very absolutist and vulnerable to such ideologies. They are often the obsessive detail-orientated types that make great designers but poor people managers. I would say the same about RW economists, happy to sacrifice the poor so we can all enjoy a better quality of life(??). It is still only a minority of the engineers I know, but a larger proportion than usual.
An arts degree, economics degree or accounting degree is unlikely to leave you with the skills to build a bomb.
I agree with the absolutist stuff, it is what attracted me to engineering, apply the maths and get the answer, if you find the maths easy, great for exams. Little did I know, apply the maths and all you get is some insight into the cost/risk ratio you’re dealing with, and in some cases the risk is death ( the value of life is not infinity – as you’re into transport I suspect you have faced that realization).
I think it would be helpful if you had to face death in your degree, philosophy may help, I’ve never studied it. Ethics, as discussed in engineering books really doesn’t give you the foundation to face the gray area when it comes to the value of a life.
I wonder if it is absolutism or a slippy slop that leads engineers to terrorism. Once you have accepted the value of a life is not infinity, where do you draw the line? I have accept the value given in the standards I use, legally I am covered to an extent as I have followed industry practice, but is it right?
Oops, Pandora’s box.
SMH Letters page has the headline “Inquiry is just point scoring” and has 4 letters on the topic, yet only one is supportive of the headline. Letters editor always claims that they publish letters in proportion to those received , so 1/4 must have been in line with their headline…so why? SMH agenda here?
They did it again with the second topic on book week parades!
Interesting Caulfield pre-racing patrol (‘harvey job keeper’ owns Alligator Blood in R8 today)-
“Death awaits us all but for two of horse racing’s long-time heavyweights, life’s great certainty can still accommodate a wager.
“We’ve got a deal,” Gerry Harvey said this week of he and advertising guru mate John Singleton. “We put in $10 million each and whoever dies first, loses the 10.
“Every time I see him, and I look at him and I think ‘I hope the bastard dies’ and every time he sees me he thinks the same way, so there’s a $20 million jackpot in there.
“The good thing about it is the loser will never, ever know he’s the loser.”
Harvey was a guest during the week on Peter Moody’s podcast Moody On The Mic, where he revealed the $10m bet he always thought he was a good thing to win.
“I looked at him the other day and I thought ‘He looks better than I was hoping’,” Harvey quipped.
“He’s knocked himself around a lot more than I did. I drank a lot and smoked a lot but by about 35, I thought I’d be a decent human being and look after myself. But it took him until about 65.
“So, he’s knocked himself around a lot more than me and I didn’t think he’d ever get to 70 and now I think he turns 81 this year or something.
“But I am 83 in another couple of weeks.”
Aus v SA match: kick-off 15:35 AEST, see it on Stan or 9.
Thanks C@tmomma
Very interesting. Does it also lessen the unlawfulness from bad-act to attempted bad-act?
Always appreciative of the Dawn Patrol, and now the backup! Thank you, so much!
I was asking the question, when will the new metro tunnel be finished, all we get in the news is breathless reporting of problems. The answer seems to be, track laying has started and it will be opened mid next year. On the way found some really good videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYyi0UzdVRk&ab_channel=RailProjectsVictoria
The Joy of Weeding, should be a book.
Blast from the past.
4 years ago. It could have been yesterday. Guy hasn’t changed a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlJwf50NL0w&ab_channel=TransportNewsMelbourne
Late Riser says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 10:09 am
The Joy of Weeding, should be a book.
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It is up here in Thailand since they legalised the “Devils’ Lettuce”.
“Residential rents would be frozen across Queensland for two years under new laws to be introduced to state parliament by the Greens.
The minor party will introduce the Bill to parliament next week, with Greens MP Amy MacMahon calling on the Palaszczuk government to “urgently” support their push amid the housing crisis.
Under the Greens’ plan, landlords would be allowed to rent their property only either at or below the rate it was rented for as of August 1 this year.”
https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/not-our-job-to-look-after-investors-outcomes-greens-push-to-freeze-qld-rents/news-story/43067e4136551df8da4e36a388368796?amp
Madness. There will be no private investment in Queensland rentals during this time or for a long time after should the Greens prevail (they won’t). It will kill private investment and make rentals even harder to find.
The Greens are the new Populists of Australian Politics. Move over Clive and Pauline.
Albanese and Chalmers would be stupid to renege on the promise to give out the Stage 3 tax cuts, surely there are other ways to redistribute income so lower income earners are assisted?
If this relatively new government broke a major election promise, you would bet 90% of the media would be all over them and Dutton would get a platform that he doesn’t really deserve.
BTW Upnorth – G’day old mate, how is Thailand? I hope the beer is flowing freely up your way.
Socrates @ #50 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 9:40 am
Someone should tell Marles we don’t have porcupines in Australia. How about an ‘echidna’ strategy? Have you ever tried to pick one up? 🙂
Evan @ #67 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 10:46 am
Labor was stupid to support them.
Now they can’t proceed without looking stupid, and they can’t back down without looking stupid.
Lucky? I guess his efforts to destroy the LNP could be considered luck.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-were-lucky-to-have-scottyfrommarketing-as-pm-20220826-p5bcxs.html
Building standards are changing
(EVs) in apartments through provision of base infrastructure for future cabling and control point installation at the time of construction.
Ministers tasked the ABCB to take this work further by working with other relevant agencies to ensure future buildings are ready to support a higher penetration of EVs by making EV charging easy and safe, including enabling further uptake of distributed energy and storage.
This is very important main switchboards need to have breakers installed for the connection of charging systems that look at maximum building demand and charge overnight when the building load is low.
The key changes to energy efficiency provisions in NCC 2022 are:
Raising the minimum thermal performance standard for building fabric from the equivalent of 6 to 7 stars on the National Home Energy Rating System (NatHERS); and
Introducing a ‘whole-of-home’ budget approach to managing the energy use of fixed appliances including heating and cooling, hot water, lighting, and pool and spa pumps.
The first simple increases the insulation requirements of housing. The second allows innovative solutions that move heat around. You want your pool warmer you want your house cooler, heat pump etc..
The Greens are trying to skittle the voice and wanking on about stage 3 tax cuts, Labor is just getting on with the transition away from fossil fuel. Energy efficiency and transitioning to electric cars is an important part of that.
Upnorth @ #66 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 10:28 am
The new Know Nothings. Proud of their Populist Ignorance.
I mean, is that the best that their Queensland brains trust could come up with!?!
Evan says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 10:48 am
BTW Upnorth – G’day old mate, how is Thailand? I hope the beer is flowing freely up your way.
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How they hanging old mate? All good up here. Wet Season (I love the rain) but very humid every day. Had a few fungal growths in strange humid spots but Thai medicine is ridgey didge.
I’m off the grog for Buddhist Lent (a 3 month job). Lost a few kegs – but being a Mick if I fall off the wagon it’s not a biggie!
How are you cobber? You behaving? Bloody good to hear from you. We are planning our first trip back to Oz in 3 years (around November). Just to Brissie to see the daughter. Will fly mum and dad down from Upnorth and have an early Christmas. I reckon a cold XXXX and some Mud Crabs will go a treat.
Got to get to Adelaide for “The Whatever-The-Fuck-Our-Name-Is-Pollbludger-Pissheads-Club” knees up! I reckon 2023 is a go.
Late Riser @ #63 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 10:09 am
I did it last week. Before those dandelions could get a head of steam. 🙂
Got to get to Adelaide for “The Whatever-The-Fuck-Our-Name-Is-Pollbludger-Pissheads-Club” knees up! I reckon 2023 is a go.
OopNorth,
If you do not also make time to attend a Sydney gathering of the Refined PB Pissheads and Malcontents Luncheon Club, then I will be most dismayed! 😀
What the hell was Albo doing meeting with Murdoch and editors during the week? Doesn’t look good at all. The only thing that reassures me is the presence of Penny Wong. I think this means the meeting was about Newscorp toning down the anti-Chinese rhetoric.
How they hanging old mate? All good up here. Wet Season (I love the rain) but very humid every day. Had a few fungal growths in strange humid spots but Thai medicine is ridgey didge.
I’m off the grog for Buddhist Lent (a 3 month job). Lost a few kegs – but being a Mick if I fall off the wagon it’s not a biggie!
How are you cobber? You behaving? Bloody good to hear from you. We are planning our first trip back to Oz in 3 years (around November). Just to Brissie to see the daughter. Will fly mum and dad down from Upnorth and have an early Christmas. I reckon a cold XXXX and some Mud Crabs will go a treat.
Got to get to Adelaide for “The Whatever-The-Fuck-Our-Name-Is-Pollbludger-Pissheads-Club” knees up! I reckon 2023 is a go.
Upnorth – Poll Bludger Labor lads pissup in 2023 sounds like a top idea, must include BTR Producer in it too.
Late Riser @ #60 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 10:01 am
Your guess is as good as mine. I think that’s a fine point of law, too fine for me to parse. 🙂
C@tmomma says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:12 am
Got to get to Adelaide for “The Whatever-The-Fuck-Our-Name-Is-Pollbludger-Pissheads-Club” knees up! I reckon 2023 is a go.
OopNorth,
If you do not also make time to attend a Sydney gathering of the Refined PB Pissheads and Malcontents Luncheon Club, then I will be most dismayed!
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My dear lady, my liver and I shall be there! With bells on. Do you have a date? If not could I humbly suggest May? I certainly will be back on Oz May 2023 for business. Adelaide and Sydney then a dead cert. May 21 is a good date IMHO 🙂
Maybe William can start a thread so we can plan?????
nath @ #77 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 11:13 am
At least you have considered the alternative scenario to, ‘they were bending the knee’.
Other suggestions:
* Do the Murdochs want Labor to follow through on KRudd’s suggestion of a RC into media diversity, or would the Murdochs prefer the option of advising their editors to be reasonable, not sycophantic, just not Foxy, towards the government, across their Australian media interests?
🙂
Evan says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:14 am
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Upnorth – Poll Bludger Labor lads pissup in 2023 sounds like a top idea, must include BTR Producer in it too.
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Oath digger – BTR Producer is a must and all the other good cobbers. May 21 is a Sunday!!! So I will be in Adelaide or Sydney that date unless other cobbers have different ideas. But one year of Labor Government. Sweet!
Upnorth,
May 21, 2023, sounds like a plan. I shall consult with our Sydney co-planners, Itza Dream and Douglas and Milko. shellbell, too, because he comes up with sensible suggestions, like the restaurant needs to have a bar, a fine selection of wines and a Lazy Susan. 😀
If yabba is attending then count me out.
C@tmomma says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:24 am
Upnorth,
May 21, 2023, sounds like a plan. I shall consult with our Sydney co-planners, Itza Dream and Douglas and Milko. shellbell, too, because he comes up with sensible suggestions, like the restaurant needs to have a bar, a fine selection of wines and a Lazy Susan.
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Locked and Loaded! Upnorth will be in Sydney May 21 – come hell or high water. Ohhh I do love a good Lazy Susan.
Evan what about Friday – May 19 for “The Whatever-The-Fuck-Our-Name-Is-Pollbludger-Pissheads-Club” meet in Adelaide?
nath says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:26 am
If yabba is attending then count me out.
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Now now – that’s not the Christian Spirit. But I do owe you a couple of Crownies.
Q: What the hell was Albo doing meeting with Murdoch ….
News Corp lead relentless attacks on Federal Labor, Palaszcuk, Andrews, McGovern etc……and look where Libs are now, on the edge of oblivion. Murdoch’s days of dictating Governments is over. Labor has nothing to fear from him anymore.
Affidavit for Mar-a-Lago search warrant released, and it could not be more damning for Donald Trump
https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/8/26/2118948/-Affidavit-for-Mar-a-Lago-search-fruits-of-crime-obstruction-and-criminal-confederates
From the article:
“The government is conducting a criminal investigation concerning the improper removal and storage of classified information in unauthorized spaces, as well as the unlawful concealment or removal of government records. … the Federal Bureau of Investigation opened a criminal investigation to, among other things, determine how the documents with classification markings and records were removed from the White House (or any other authorized location(s) for the storage of classified materials) and came to be stored at the PREMISES”
And when it comes to the conclusion, the document is even more harsh:
“Based on the foregoing facts and circumstances, I submit that probable cause exists to believe that evidence, contraband, fruits of crime, or other items illegally possessed in violation18 U.S.C. §§ 793(e), 2071, or 1519 will be found at the PREMISES. ”
That’s far from all that’s still visible, and still incredibly damning for Donald Trump.
When it comes to the statutory authority behind the affidavit, the FBI goes immediately to the heart of concerns:
“Under 18 U.S.C. § 793(e), “whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document … or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted” or attempts to do or causes the same “to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it” shall be fined or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.”
This is a criminal investigation. The FBI has cause to believe that there have been multiple violations of federal law. That law calls for fines and/or imprisonment. And they believe the “fruits of crime” will be found at “PREMISES”—otherwise known as Mar-a-Lago.
Does that sound like enough to get measured for an orange jumpsuit? Hold on for another paragraph.
“Further, there is probable cause to believe that additional documents that contain classified NDI or that are Presidential records subject to record retention requirements currently remain at the PREMISES. There is also probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at the PREMISES.”
So, in addition to stolen classified documents, the FBI expected to find evidence of obstruction at PREMISES-a-Lago.
A lot of people are now saying that the Prime Minister should concentrate on the future, not the former Government. That’s what he’s doing. Both enquiries set up in recent days were essential investigations into serious failures of governance. It’s hardly Albo’s fault, for example, that the previous Prime Minister embarked on a bizarre power-grab. The enquiries will conduct their investigations in coming months. Meanwhile, the Government gets on with the job.
We need to know what happened, those responsible need to be held to account and measures need to be put in place to inform future actions and to reduce the likelihood of similar failure in future. In any case I don’t recall any of the big megaphones urging Tony Abbott to do the same when he launched two nakedly political Royal Commissions.
“Evan says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 10:46 am
Albanese and Chalmers would be stupid to renege on the promise to give out the Stage 3 tax cuts, surely there are other ways to redistribute income so lower income earners are assisted?
If this relatively new government broke a major election promise, you would bet 90% of the media would be all over them and Dutton would get a platform that he doesn’t really deserve.”
Well written, Evan. Now go and try to explain such a basic political principle to Bandt and the Greens. For some reason they just don’t get it and they keep demanding that the ALP government abandon their promise to go ahead with stage-3 tax cuts (incidentally, the ALP initially rejected stage-3, but had to finally accept it because Scomo introduced an omnibus bill with tax cuts for everybody or for nobody, including the poor and middle class…. the Greens voted for tax cuts for nobody).
Perhaps the Greens don’t get the basic principle that you mention, because they have become too used to lose elections after elections and so losing another one means nothing for them?…
Weeding, watching the Wobblies get thrashed by the Ya ya’s (while surrounded by ya yas), spending hours talking politics face to face with a bunch of SA pollbludgers. Hmmmmm. I’ll take weeding.
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C@tmommasays:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 9:43 am
Kim Rubenstein puts her finger on it wrt the PEP-11 decision by Morrison and I bet he knew this too so it would give him a Get Out of Jail Free card after the election if he won:
“Responsible government is a key … principle linked to the text of the constitution,” Rubenstein says. “The extent to which a court would rely on the breach of that principle to find that something is unlawful is unclear.”
But, she says, if the gas case reached the High Court and this was argued, the court could take the view that the appointment’s secrecy impeded accountability so much that responsible government couldn’t be achieved.
“I think there is an argument that when responsible government is breached to the point that it is undermining of representative democracy, that might be a sufficient catalyst for a court to be more prescriptive of something being unlawful – because it is a significant breach of responsible government,” she says.
That could lead to a court ruling that the decision was not made constitutionally and was therefore unlawful.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2022/08/27/exclusive-morrison-may-have-acted-unlawfully-secret-ministry
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So C@tmomma, Shellbell, Mavis, AE
What happens if the Court Case goes against the Federal government?
Will the government ask Morrison to pay for the damages and penalties incurred by the government?
Maybe not. All my weeds are prickly.
“Steve777says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 12:00 pm
A lot of people are now saying that the Prime Minister should concentrate on the future, not the former Government. That’s what he’s doing. “….
Exactly, Steve, excellent post!… The current investigations, the coming RC, etc. that will put the spotlight on the actions of the recent Coalition government, are all part of the ALP plan to focus on the future. You can’t hope for a better future if you keep repeating the same mistakes of the past….
Ven @ #92 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 12:05 pm
Beyond MY pay grade, Ven. 😀
Others may have thoughts.
Upnorth @ #86 Saturday, August 27th, 2022 – 11:31 am
Don’t take any notice of nath. He lives in Victoria. He threatened to come up to NSW last time but, as you would expect, he was just full of hot air at the end of the day and he didn’t front. I expect much the same scenario this time.
Simon Katich says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 12:04 pm
Weeding, watching the Wobblies get thrashed by the Ya ya’s (while surrounded by ya yas), spending hours talking politics face to face with a bunch of SA pollbludgers. Hmmmmm. I’ll take weeding.
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Well take your Cricket Bat and go home! Besides I’m no Crow Eater and we can talk about you 🙂
From Muse’s new album*, “Will Of The People”, released yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac4E_UsmB1g
* At around 38 minutes long, it feels a bit short for an “album”.
Great songs, though.
It looks like they have a music video for each track:
https://www.youtube.com/c/muse/videos
Upnorth Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 10:28 am
Are you saying that first home buyers will no longer have to compete with investors and will be able to afford to purchase their home?
“nath says:
Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:13 am
What the hell was Albo doing meeting with Murdoch and editors during the week? Doesn’t look good at all. The only thing that reassures me is the presence of Penny Wong. I think this means the meeting was about Newscorp toning down the anti-Chinese rhetoric.”
This is how the Murdoch rival SMH described the event:
“The prime minister was spotted at the media empire’s Holt Street offices on Wednesday, where, we’re told, Albo, Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles and Foreign Minister Penny Wong met News Corp co-chairman Lachlan Murdoch and senior editors of the media empire’s Australian mastheads.
It came just a day after Murdoch the younger launched a defamation suit against news and politics website Crikey, a move slammed by former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull as “hypocritical”.
But for those in power, some rings still need to be kissed, it seems.”
Kissing rings?…. Is that what happened?… How does the SMH know?…. Or is that just a lie?
Note also that the meeting was apparently with Lachlan (not Rupert). Are Albo and his team giving a chance to Lachlan to achieve some degree of redemption?
But given that Wong was there, I agree that China must have been a main focus of the meeting. I guess that Albo told Lachlan that the situation with China is extremely serious and that his newspapers should not write idiocies for partisan political purposes, because the international consequences could be unpredictable…. and not in the self-interest of NewsCorp either.
Anyway, whatever happened, the NineCorp innuendo about “ring kissing” is clearly pure crap.