More Roy Morgan and post-federal election research (open thread)

One of only two pollsters currently in the federal game continues to show Labor with a more modest lead than Newspoll.

Roy Morgan’s weekly update reveals that its latest voting intention figures have Labor’s two-party lead out from 52.5-47.5 to 53-47, but does not treat us to primary vote numbers on this occasion. If I’m reading the blurry fine print correctly, the polling was conducted from August 8 to 14. Assuming Newspoll has resumed its previously established schedule of a poll of every three weeks, that should be along with us on Sunday evening.

Also of note:

• An article in Crikey last week provided details from YouGov’s Co-operative Election Survey panel survey, conducting during the campaign from May 2 to 18 from a sample of 5978. It indicates that the cohorts most likely to defect to Labor were the well educated, those with few assets, those identifying as having no religion, and those from non-English backgrounds. Also featured were those aged 18 to 34, although this cohort was the most volatile across the board – the voters least likely to defect from Labor were the oldest. Similarly, high income earners were both more likely to those on low and middle incomes both to defect to and from Labor.

Michael Koziol of the Age/Herald explores the impact of young inner-city renters on the Morrison government’s defeat. Kos Samaras of Redbridge Group is quoted saying such voters are keen to get into the property market but “do not want to relocate to the outskirts of western Sydney or Melbourne”, and have “really looked down on conservative politicians mocking them on their lifestyle choices”. Such voters were attracted to the teal independents over Labor because they favour “a modern solution to their hunger for a different form of politics”, and over the Greens because of their “positions on housing and development at a local level, where ‘not in my backyard’ attitudes constrain supply”. The latter is particularly an issue at state level, to which the New South Wales government has responded by providing the option to pay annual land tax instead of upfront stamp duty and unveiling a plan for 4500 new homes around a railway station in Hornsby.

• The by-election for the Northern Territory seat of Fannie Bay, vacated by the retirement of former Chief Minister Michael Gunner, will be held tomorrow. Labor’s Brent Potter will defend a 9.6% margin against Country Liberal Party candidate Ben Hosking and four others.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. nath @ #764 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 11:53 am

    Defeating Carlton by a point to knock them out of the Finals. What a delicious day. It was the sweetest of all the close victories. All glory to Collingwood.

    The blues and maggies have a great rivalry, fierce but fun.

    The blues and bombers on the other is a bitter rivalry. We despise each other. If there is one consolation for blues fans it’s that Essendon are a disaster at the moment.

  2. Cripps is an incredible player. A great champion of the game. I thought it was a fair contest, no maliciousness, going for the ball. Inadvertent contact.

  3. It’s bitter for us Rex. And I’m sure for many Blues fans too.

    We suffered for years under the yoke of Kernahan. Who always found extra against us.

  4. Victoria @ #1000 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 11:58 am

    Samantha Maiden

    PM says he has advice from Solicitor General – will release it tmw. Cabinet will discuss it on Tuesday. @newscomauHQ

    Yes. Open and honest:

    I will be briefed by the secretary of my department, Glynn Davis on the advice. My understanding is he has received the advice. I will be briefed on it this afternoon. I intend to release that advice so that people can see it and be transparent about it and we will, because my government, as an orderly government, we have cabinet meetings tomorrow. I think politeness and proper process means that they should have access to it. I will do that and I intend to release the advice tomorrow. As I said, I haven’t had the opportunity, because I have been here, it came through while we were down stairs, so I will get briefed on it this afternoon at the Commonwealth offices and then it will be considered, or released – I don’t know that there is any decisions to be made, I am not sure because I haven’t examined it yet, by the cabinet, but I will release it tomorrow in Canberra.

    (via The Guardian live)

  5. Granny Anny,

    Growth
    Courier Mail +10%

    Does it give the base rate? (Increasing readership by 1, from 10 to 11, is 10% growth.)

  6. Late Riser

    No base figures, it’s a puff piece for their own product.

    The Roy Morgan research might be available somewhere. (Hint Mr Bowe)

    I presume similar research is done for TV broadcasters. I wonder how News Corp is going there in comparison to the others.

    My take out is that if you don’t produce a good product, people won’t buy it. News Corp doesn’t produce a product that most will buy.

  7. The heraldsun is so out of whack with the city it is printed in that it may as well be a foreign publication. Ignored by half the population out of principle.

  8. Afternoon all. I note Albo has committed to releasing the SG’s advice on Tuesday. He said:

    “Albanese commits to releasing solicitor general’s advice

    The PM is asked if he thinks there should be a broader inquiry into this:

    Quite clearly, there are real questions to be answered here. There is a question of legality. There hasn’t been a suggestion of illegality but there are – there have been questions raised about how this could occur, how it fits in with the conventions and the normal accountability mechanisms and checks and balances that are there in our parliamentary democracy. They are matters that need to be considered.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2022/aug/22/australia-news-live-updates-anthony-albanese-peter-dutton-scott-morrison-secret-ministries-heath-economy-jobs-migration-nsw-qld-victoria

    There are individuals with varying degrees of responsibility involved. The rules for the politicians may be quite lax.

    Not so the public servants. Any Federal public servants are subject to the Federal PS act, which has sweeping duties to act in the public interest. So anyone in for example, PMC or the GG’s staff, not a Ministerial staffer, could be in trouble if they deliberately kept matters secret in a way not in the public interest. It will be intersting to see what these have or have not done.

  9. If anyone is interested there is a personal inflation calculator over at the Herald Sun at the moment.
    My personal inflation rate is 11.8%.

  10. ItzaDreamsays:
    Monday, August 22, 2022 at 12:26 pm

    Yes, amongst other things it shows that Wall Street malpractice continues long after the GFC.

    The world car industry upheaval is looking more and more like the PC revolution and then the iPhone.

    The newcomer destroys the established players. At the heart of each of these events is greater use of computing power.

  11. Re: Australian Footy Finals.
    Carlton choke for the 4th week in a row.
    But what really annoys me is that Geelong are deprived, again, of hosting a home final.
    This is a home final which they well and truly qualified for by leading the Home & Away season by 2 clear games.
    So much for the AFL’s oft stated line that teams who qualify for a home final deserve to play at their home ground. The last time I looked Kardinia Park (despite its corporate name-over) is still the Geelong home ground.
    And no, I’m not a Geelong member – I support GWS (Created in Sydney – not relocated to Sydney).

  12. Rex Douglas says:
    Monday, August 22, 2022 at 11:53 am
    ……My blueboys will use this pain of defeat as inspiration and Michael Voss is the type of leader to get the boys to the next level.
    **********
    Famous Carlton supporters: Robert Menzies, John Elliot, Rex Douglas.

  13. Macca RB says:
    The last time I looked Kardinia Park (despite its corporate name-over) is still the Geelong home ground.
    ________________
    Geelong plays 7-9 games there. For the blockbusters it plays home games at the MCG.

    Playing a Final at KP when the MCG is vacant is stupendously ridiculous.

  14. Morrison had no legal requirement to make public Hurley’s
    approval of the five duplicate ministries – it’s merely a convention. Perhaps the SG’s advice will include this:

    [‘We can no longer rely on unwritten constitutional conventions to ensure the parliament and the public know who the ministers are and what responsibilities each of them possesses. Constitutional propriety on the part of a governor-general and prime minister can no longer be taken for granted.

    Parliament must reassert its supremacy over the executive, and ensure the exercise of ministerial power is accountable to parliament.

    Parliament should amend the Ministers of State Act to require the governor-general to publish in the gazette every appointment of a minister; every change to the portfolios held by a minister; any change to which government department is responsible for an area of policy; and every change to which minister is responsible for a piece of legislation.

    Parliament should also amend the act to require ministers to publish in the gazette every authorisation of another minister to act in their stead. Legislation currently allows a minister to authorise another minister to act on their behalf. This is a useful mechanism if a minister goes on leave, for example, but there’s no requirement for these authorisations to be made public.

    There should be no secret ministers. The states should also enact similar laws, given that a similar scandal is theoretically possible at the state level too.’]

    https://lens.monash.edu/@politics-society/2022/08/17/1384999/parliament-must-act-to-ensure-australia-never-has-secret-ministers-again

  15. First Sydney Melbourne semi since 1987 by my reckoning.

    The year the Edelsten Swans finished 3rd and lost both semis in weeks one and two.

    Nice of Carlton to make Edelsten a life member.

  16. shellbell says:

    The year the Edelsten Swans finished 3rd and lost both semis in weeks one and two.
    _________
    Capper, who was on fire, did his hamstring in the first final (qualifying). Didn’t play the second and left for Brisbane during the pre season. Never got back his form.

  17. The federal government has released the latest Skills Priority List, revealing the industries and roles hit hardest by Australia’s skills shortage.

    Based on the Skills Priority List, and data on employment growth and job vacancies, the top 10 in-demand professions over the next five years are:

    Construction managers;
    Civil engineering professionals;
    Early childhood educators;
    Registered nurses;
    ICT business and systems analysts;
    Software and applications programmers;
    Electricians;
    Chefs;
    Child carers; and
    Aged and disability carers.

    https://www.smartcompany.com.au/industries/news-priority-skills-abs-hours-worked/

  18. Murdochs Inflation calculator only changes significantly with the ‘do you have a mortgage’ question.

    Oddly, your inflation is lower if you have kids in private school. Lower if you smoke. Lower if you eat out. Lower if you are a meat eater. The only way I could find to force the calculator to come up with something on or lower than the actual inflation figure is by saying I was a renter or I owned a house outright and didnt have a car.

    And the Professor from Sydney Uni who “helped” Newscorp with the calculator says that inflation is, without question, out of control.

    Another in a long line of News.com.au waste of time articles.

  19. When governments ‘manage’ the release of reports for party political purposes rather than in the national interest.
    Reports require taxpayer funding to produce.
    Albanese today received a report into Morrison’s Multiple Ministers Disorder. Cabinet will consider it. The Report will be released tomorrow.
    This seems to me to be speedy by Morrison Government standards.
    To me, it seems reasonable for Cabinet to consider a report before the government of the day releases it.
    IMO, most governments manage the timing of some or all reports for party political purposes.
    The question is more one of degree than anything else.
    For example, the current Deputy Leader of the Opposition stopped the publication of the State of the Environment Report. These things cost millions.
    Where is the threshold between sound governance and corruption with respect to the publication of publicly-funded reports?

  20. I see that Flagman was up and about wanting an inquiry into every last thing.
    I assume he does not care what that costs the taxpayer as long as it gives him some political mileage.

  21. nathsays:
    Monday, August 22, 2022 at 1:20 pm
    shellbell says:

    The year the Edelsten Swans finished 3rd and lost both semis in weeks one and two.
    _________
    Capper, who was on fire, did his hamstring in the first final (qualifying). Didn’t play the second and left for Brisbane during the pre season. Never got back his form.
    _________________________________
    He also didn’t have Diesel, Mitchell, Wright and Healy, etc putting the pill laces out at the Brisbane Bears…

  22. “ Low hanging fruit.

    Albanese and Chalmers need to fly a bit higher and scrap the S3 tax cuts which everyone knows are NOT in the best interests of our society.”

    What a bad faith actor you are, Rex.

    Scrap the s3 tax cuts, just like that … and be at grave risk of yet another wasted decade of tory misrule. … What a ‘useful idiot’ you are. … any tampering with s3 tax cuts is a political mine field. … If you can’t/won’t acknowledge THAT then you are either stupid – and clearly you are not stupid – or simply dishonest.

  23. It is interesting to look at this skills shortage list and see so many occupations which were once the domain of State Government (with some Commonwealth funding input).
    Many of these were over subscribed by students who, like myself, were guaranteed full time employment at the completion of their diploma or degree, as well as a scholarship which paid a small fortnightly allowance as well as Uni fees etc.
    The only undertaking from the graduate was to accept an initial posting anywhere within the state.
    Teacher graduates were asked to nominate areas of the state in which they would prefer to work. In most instances preferences were accepted.
    Similarly, the teaching hospital program for Nursing supplied quality nurses to all state hospitals. Most were employed by their training hospital but applications were accepted by other hospitals, too, particularly in the private sector.
    The changes to this manner of undergraduate training are not the only reasons for the continuing and escalating staffing crisis in Education & Nursing, but have had a significant affect.
    My own campus initially offered a Diploma of Teaching (3 year) but by the time of graduation this had been extended to degree level through an extra year of course work.
    I and many of my fellow students elected to undertake this option.

    Hopefully, next weeks’ job summit may look at formerly, successful training programs to address many of the current and future employment concerns.
    The restoration of TAFE, and a substantial audit of so-called “private training colleges” wouldn’t be a bad move either.

  24. NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet has refused to declare confidence in the state’s agent-general in London while he awaits a review of expenses linked to the lucrative role.

    Following the production of further government documents – which raise questions about Stephen Cartwright’s appointment to the overseas post – the premier said he relied on advice that it had been a public service decision signed off by cabinet.

    The comments came after this masthead revealed Cartwright was outperformed by other candidates for the state’s trade commissioner roles, including former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro. That’s according to the metrics put in place by an independent recruitment firm.

    “That’s not the advice I’ve received,” the premier said during a press conference earlier today. “The advice I’ve received is that it was a process that was run by the public service and approved by the cabinet.”

    Asked repeatedly if he retained confidence in Cartwright, Perrottet said he was awaiting advice from a review by Trade Minister Alister Henskens into Cartwright’s expenses.

    The premier asked for the review after documents revealed the agent-general’s expenses between September 2021 and June 2022 totalled $113,648, including accommodation and “miscellaneous” expenses like newspaper subscriptions and travel.’] – SMH blog.

    I think Cartwright could be described as endangered.

  25. Every and any ALP minister that pops up on radio or tv interviews will be asked about the dvice. This only gives them a day to be briefed and ready o answer Qs. Albanese is very much erring on the side of fast transparency.

    Mavis @ #1029 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 1:08 pm

    alfred venison:

    Monday, August 22, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    Some of those Russians look just like us.

    giggles.
    And Russia has German supermarket chains – just like us! Only betterer.

  26. The reported circulation figures for Australian newspapers is of no surprise.
    My beloved Sydney Morning Herald, which I have purchased and read every day since i was 16, is a shell of the newspaper it once was.
    The quality of much of the political reporting is questionable. The thunderous columns, particularly those of Alan Ramsey, were worth the price, alone.
    Overall, the standard in all areas is paltry.
    Unless you support Rugby League the sporting pages are empty of content. We once were supplied with a a double page spread, every monday & friday – much lifted from The Age, to satisfy our AFL cravings.
    Some weeks it is hard to believe that Sydney is home to two teams in the AFL.
    It is little wonder that circulation is collapsing – and to rub salt into the wound, we, the loyal readers were subjected to a 20% price rise, last week.

  27. Ven at 10:47 am

    Ron Johnson, Republican Senator from Wisconsin, says that he only participated in election overthrow plot for ‘a couple seconds’

    😆 Classic

  28. Mavis @ #1029 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 1:08 pm

    alfred venison:

    Monday, August 22, 2022 at 1:06 pm

    Some of those Russians look just like us.
    _______________________
    giggles.
    And Russia has German supermarket chains – just like us! Only betterer.

    Moscow has 12.5 million inhabitants, packed at around TWELVE times the density of Sydney or Melbourne. Lots of close customers, hence hypermarkets. Sydney/Melbourne, about 420 people per sq km, Moscow 4,950 per sq km.

    Also explains the excellence of the Metro rail system. Far more people, much closer to the centre.

  29. Andrew_Earlwood @ #510 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 1:40 pm

    “ Low hanging fruit.

    Albanese and Chalmers need to fly a bit higher and scrap the S3 tax cuts which everyone knows are NOT in the best interests of our society.”

    What a bad faith actor you are, Rex.

    Scrap the s3 tax cuts, just like that … and be at grave risk of yet another wasted decade of tory misrule. … What a ‘useful idiot’ you are. … any tampering with s3 tax cuts is a political mine field. … If you can’t/won’t acknowledge THAT then you are either stupid – and clearly you are not stupid – or simply dishonest.

    The bad faith actors are the political leaders who don’t have the decency, honesty and good sense to scrap this outrageous theft from the public purse.

  30. Mavis @ #512 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 1:51 pm

    NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet has refused to declare confidence in the state’s agent-general in London while he awaits a review of expenses linked to the lucrative role.

    Following the production of further government documents – which raise questions about Stephen Cartwright’s appointment to the overseas post – the premier said he relied on advice that it had been a public service decision signed off by cabinet.

    The comments came after this masthead revealed Cartwright was outperformed by other candidates for the state’s trade commissioner roles, including former NSW deputy premier John Barilaro. That’s according to the metrics put in place by an independent recruitment firm.

    “That’s not the advice I’ve received,” the premier said during a press conference earlier today. “The advice I’ve received is that it was a process that was run by the public service and approved by the cabinet.”

    Asked repeatedly if he retained confidence in Cartwright, Perrottet said he was awaiting advice from a review by Trade Minister Alister Henskens into Cartwright’s expenses.

    The premier asked for the review after documents revealed the agent-general’s expenses between September 2021 and June 2022 totalled $113,648, including accommodation and “miscellaneous” expenses like newspaper subscriptions and travel.’] – SMH blog.

    I think Cartwright could be described as endangered.

  31. We saw what happened to Greece for being bad faith actors re tax.

    Those defending this mega multi-billion dollar heist from the public purse by the wealthy ought feel shame.

  32. Rex Douglas at 2:33 pm

    We saw what happened to Greece for being bad faith actors re tax.

    Ze Cherman banks were very much bad guys in it all. Greed almost got ’em but the Greeks copped it in the end. Against rules and guidelines and in an effort to chase a little extra return by way of higher interest rates billions were loaned to people in Greece that should not have been given money. When the shit hit the fan the Cherman banks were in deep deep shit. The ‘Greek Bailout’ was actually the German banks being bailed out. Most of the money did not make it to Greece it went to the likes of Deutsche Bank whose management had been playing fast and loose during the good times.

  33. Macca RB @ #1014 Monday, August 22nd, 2022 – 11:01 am

    Re: Australian Footy Finals.
    Carlton choke for the 4th week in a row.
    But what really annoys me is that Geelong are deprived, again, of hosting a home final.
    This is a home final which they well and truly qualified for by leading the Home & Away season by 2 clear games.
    So much for the AFL’s oft stated line that teams who qualify for a home final deserve to play at their home ground. The last time I looked Kardinia Park (despite its corporate name-over) is still the Geelong home ground.
    And no, I’m not a Geelong member – I support GWS (Created in Sydney – not relocated to Sydney).

    Being the highest finishing team in a final only qualifies you to play in your home state. Them’s the rules.

  34. Poroti, Chambers st Station was built in 1913. I bet they didn’t do a cost benefit analysis. It has been renovated since that photo though.

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