More Roy Morgan and post-federal election research (open thread)

One of only two pollsters currently in the federal game continues to show Labor with a more modest lead than Newspoll.

Roy Morgan’s weekly update reveals that its latest voting intention figures have Labor’s two-party lead out from 52.5-47.5 to 53-47, but does not treat us to primary vote numbers on this occasion. If I’m reading the blurry fine print correctly, the polling was conducted from August 8 to 14. Assuming Newspoll has resumed its previously established schedule of a poll of every three weeks, that should be along with us on Sunday evening.

Also of note:

• An article in Crikey last week provided details from YouGov’s Co-operative Election Survey panel survey, conducting during the campaign from May 2 to 18 from a sample of 5978. It indicates that the cohorts most likely to defect to Labor were the well educated, those with few assets, those identifying as having no religion, and those from non-English backgrounds. Also featured were those aged 18 to 34, although this cohort was the most volatile across the board – the voters least likely to defect from Labor were the oldest. Similarly, high income earners were both more likely to those on low and middle incomes both to defect to and from Labor.

• Michael Koziol of the Age/Herald explores the impact of young inner-city renters on the Morrison government’s defeat. Kos Samaras of Redbridge Group is quoted saying such voters are keen to get into the property market but “do not want to relocate to the outskirts of western Sydney or Melbourne”, and have “really looked down on conservative politicians mocking them on their lifestyle choices”. Such voters were attracted to the teal independents over Labor because they favour “a modern solution to their hunger for a different form of politics”, and over the Greens because of their “positions on housing and development at a local level, where ‘not in my backyard’ attitudes constrain supply”. The latter is particularly an issue at state level, to which the New South Wales government has responded by providing the option to pay annual land tax instead of upfront stamp duty and unveiling a plan for 4500 new homes around a railway station in Hornsby.

• The by-election for the Northern Territory seat of Fannie Bay, vacated by the retirement of former Chief Minister Michael Gunner, will be held tomorrow. Labor’s Brent Potter will defend a 9.6% margin against Country Liberal Party candidate Ben Hosking and four others.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  9. Morning all. No worries BK, take your time. I put this on the other thread but I think it is relevant to general political discussion. It is time

    “In terms of the credibility of the role of GG Hurley’s position is already untenable. As William said, his explanation of the secrecy is reasonable in 2020, but not in 2021.

    As with [Prof] Hockey’s comment, if Morrison instructed Hurley to keep the appointments secret Hurley should say so. Otherwise Hurley appears at fault.

    The question of legality is a bit of a fig leaf in this case IMO. There are lots of jobs where you can be sacked for behaving unethically or against the organisation’s interests, even though it may have been legal.

    Regardless of the outcome for Hurley, there has never been a better time to tighten up the relevant laws and parliamentary instructions. This loophole in our system is a recipe for a dictatorship, and can’t be allowed to stand.

    This incident is also further proof that “relying on conventions” is not good enough in an era of cynical machine politics. The rules need to be written and unambiguous. Even the UK, where most of our constitutional practice descends from, has commenced writing down all those conventions and making them binding. The UK Constitution is not codified as a single document, but it is now mostly written.”
    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/constitution-unit/explainers/what-uk-constitution

    There has never been a better time to enshrine the principles as law. It looks likely to get bipartisan support. It would be a signature reform to achieve under Albo’s prime ministership.

  10. #weatheronPB
    Morning paints itself green, blue.
    I breathe the cool irresistible lazy perfection.
    The sun stretches out, rising.

  11. Socrates says:

    “In terms of the credibility of the role of GG Hurley’s position is already untenable. As William said, his explanation of the secrecy is reasonable in 2020, but not in 2021.
    _________
    I posted this in the GG thread also, but would the GG really be expected to check that Morrison had published the changes in the Administrative Orders? That seems to imply a level of oversight on the PM’s actions that would also be against convention, perhaps?

  12. David Crowe’s article today is quite reasonable but he just doesn’t canvas the idea that Scott Morrison didn’t do as good a job as he is saying he did during the COVID-19 pandemic and that’s why he should be excused for assuming the Ghost Ministries.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-weird-science-of-our-secret-saviour-scott-morrison-20220818-p5baso.html

    So this is what I wrote in reply:

    I would believe Scott Morrison’s rationalisation for his secretive actions was justified if he had done a stellar job in handling the COVID-19 pandemic. Truth is, he didn’t.

    He didn’t order vaccines in a timely manner and so had to beg and borrow them from the UK.
    He didn’t order them from Pfizer when other national leaders were and then sought to disparage the CEO of Pfizer to cover for his mistake.
    His dealing with the Aged Care sector, for which he was, it seems, ultimately responsible as Ghost Health Minister, but also as Prime Minister, was shambolic and guided too much by Neo Liberal economic ideology whereby he refused to agree to pay rises for Aged Care Workers so that they had to keep doing 3 or 4 jobs in multiple homes in order to be able to pay their bills. And so the virus spread unnecessarily and lives were lost that should never have been.

    Not to mention his refusal to build dedicated quarantine facilities that could have isolated carriers of the virus and limited its spread. Instead we got hotel quarantine that wasn’t fit for purpose until extensive modifications were organised.

    We can’t forget the RATs farce either, where people were going from pharmacy to pharmacy to try and get a hold of them so as to prove they didn’t have COVID-19 and so were clear to go to work.

    And don’t get me started on the multiple of billions of dollars that were allowed by the Treasurer and the Ghost Treasurer to walk out the door, never to return, and their desire not to want it to be recouped and compare that to Robodebt.

    So Scott Morrison’s excuse that he had to do what he did to enable him to deal with the pandemic is like a cup with holes in it. It doesn’t hold water.

  13. Nath

    Gazetting Ministerial appointments is normal practice. Hurley has a staff who would liaise with those who write the gazette on a regular basis. The gazette may be updated as often as weekly. They surely would have known about the secrecy.

    If Morrison instructed Hurley to keep it secret, that is not Hurley’s fault, but he needs to say so. Hurley’s current explanation is not sufficient to absolve him of fault.

  14. M’colleague David Hardaker noted yesterday that the press corps still do not understand the degree to which Morrison’s actions were steered by his Pentecostalist Christian faith, and your correspondent was the first to note this, back in 2018, when the Morrison government was only weeks old. They cannot get into the mind of someone who was born into a family headed by a policeman/mayor/Pentecostalist preacher, and raised within it.

    People keep looking for a fake: it’s the prosperity gospel, they say, even though there’s very little of that in Morrison’s discourse. It’s a put-on, to win seats. Pentecostalism? Really? No, Morrison’s faith is the real thing. If it appears contradictory — apparent cruelty and deceit mingled with religiosity — that is simply because it’s not your Uniting Church-blue-skivvie-kumbaya sort of thing.

    Pentecostalists and others draw a strong line between their faith and the fallen world. For such Christians, trying to make the world behave better is a futile act. Judgment Day is coming, and your job is to bear witness of your faith, proselytise, and, if you’re prime minister of a prominent nation, steer the population to a safer place where they might come to know God.

    Did Morrison, having been initially sluggish as regards to COVID, come to believe that the plague was here? To ask if he might have believed it either literally or figuratively is to also impose a secular classification: if you think in mythical terms, then the plague may come clothed in the outer garment of a minor disease. You have to be on the lookout for signs.

    https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/08/18/scott-morrison-phantom-ministries-god-politics/

  16. Socrates says:
    Friday, August 19, 2022 at 7:54 am

    Nath

    Gazetting Ministerial appointments is normal practice. Hurley has a staff who would liaise with those who write the gazette on a regular basis. The gazette may be updated as often as weekly. They surely would have known about the secrecy.
    ____________
    Well. Firstly, the GG’s staff would’ve had to imagine that the PM wouldn’t publish the changes in the Administrative Orders before they would be motivated to check whether he had. A failure to imagine such a situation is more likely, in my opinion, to be the reason why the GG or his staff didn’t know the changes were not in the AO.

    I also don’t think it is common practice for the GG or his staff to check up on what the PM is doing or not doing. Of course if Morrison did ask the GG to keep it secret, that is another matter, but we don’t have any evidence that is the case, I believe.

  17. Interesting points C@t. Is Crowe going to take them on board in his piece. It’s good feedback. Morrison was a scammer.

  18. Speaking of useful reforms, fuel standards is another excellent one. This will reduce fuel import costs and the price of EVs, so its a win for consumers, and costs the government no tax revenue. The environmental benefit will please Teals and Greens as well, and make it easier to hit or exceed 43%. Well done, again, Chris Bowen.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-19/labor-signals-new-standards-to-boost-electric-vehicle-uptake/101349256

    I have been involved in writing a discussion paper on this with my professional association (Engineers Australia). The detailed implementation is important, but quite manageable.

    Australia now imports more than 80% of its fuel refined from Singapore, so the change will occur in the imported product. The remaining fuel still refined in Australia can be used to fuel existing cars that cannot run on the cleaner fuel blend. The market will sort out the change, but importantly, it should have minimal impact on costs, while allowing people to buy more economical petrol cars, as well as incentivising cheaper EVs.

    There has never been a better time to expose the colossal lie that buying EVs will end the weekend.

  19. The split off of the GG issue to a separate thread has fractured early. There’s too much overlap for it to be workable imo.

    From the GG thread, GoldenSmaug observes:

    There are some interesting coincidences to all this. ON 14th March 2020 Morrison got himself appointed as a second health minister, on the 2oth March the Ruby Princess was allowed to dock at Sydney with a large contingent of passengers who’d previously attended the Hillsong summit and also Alex Hawkes parents.

    On the 4th May Karen Andrews announced she was considering releasing the Murugappan family into the community. On the 6th May Morrison secretly got himself appointed as the second Home Affairs minister and this decision was retracted.

    The above are two “coincidences” which may not have any relationship to Morrison’s self appointment to those two ministerial positions. Effectively we see an event which is not what Morrison wants, he gets secretly appointed and then magically things come out just as Scott envisioned they would.

  21. Yes, why doesn’t nath go over to the GG thread if he has so much to say about it? Relevance Deprivation? Others are only responding to him.

  22. Timor-Leste’s president, José Ramos-Horta, has warned his nation will seek Chinese support if Australia and Woodside Energy fail to back a gas pipeline between the resource-rich Timor Sea and his country’s southern shore, rather than Darwin.

    Ramos-Horta has warned Timor-Leste – Australia’s neighbour and ally – would “absolutely” look to Chinese investment to secure what he says is the “national strategic goal” of piping gas from the Greater Sunrise fields to his nation’s coast. The comments are likely to heighten concerns about Chinese influence in the Indo-Pacific.

    “Timor-Leste would favourably consider partnership with Chinese investors if other development partners refuse to invest in bringing gas via pipeline to Timor-Leste,” Ramos-Horta told Guardian Australia.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/19/timor-leste-warns-it-will-work-with-china-if-australia-insists-on-pumping-timor-sea-gas-to-darwin

  23. C@tmomma says:
    Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:08 am

    Yes, why doesn’t nath go over to the GG thread if he has so much to say about it? Relevance Deprivation? Others are only responding to him.
    ________
    Shsh please. Adults are talking.

  24. Richard Flanagan makes these concise and apt points:

    And none of this should come as a surprise given how over a quarter of a century, the Coalition had weakened the bureaucracy both through endless cuts and a politicisation of its upper echelons, trashed the principles of accountability, prosecuted whistleblowers, made transparency a cynical synonym for secrecy, and secrecy the new currency of power.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/jabberwocky-meets-captain-ahab-as-morrison-races-down-the-rabbit-hole-20220818-p5baxi.html

    And Scott Morrison had designs on further weakening the bureaucracy by announcing that 18000 Public Service jobs were to go if he won the May election.

  25. Good morning Dawn Patrollers

    It’s a stretch for the former prime minister to claim he saved 40,000 lives – and it is sophistry to use that as justification for the indefensible, writes David Crowe. Crowe concludes his examination of Morrison’s actions by saying, “The strange thing is that Morrison seemed to think nobody would ever discover his five secret portfolios but, all along, he had set the clock ticking on a bomb beneath his own legacy.”
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-weird-science-of-our-secret-saviour-scott-morrison-20220818-p5baso.html
    On Monday, when Solicitor-General Stephen Donoghue QC is due to produce his opinion on Scott Morrison’s conduct. The Australian’s Chris Merritt tells us what to look for in it.
    https://amp.theaustralian.com.au/business/legal-affairs/scott-morrison-scandal-a-chance-to-improve-our-system/news-story/41cadc1653a462e87a361be74b69cc76
    Phil Coorey reckons Morrison is friendless as Howard and Dutton condemn his actions.
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/morrison-friendless-as-howard-and-dutton-condemn-secret-ministries-20220818-p5barv
    The former prime minister’s defence of backing up the health and finance ministers doesn’t pass muster. And ghosting Treasury, Home Affairs and Resources was just plain abuse, writes Coorey who says the secret ministerial deeds are trashing Scott Morrison’s legacy. (Maybe one day he will tell us what that legacy is).
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/secret-ministerial-deeds-trash-morrison-s-legacy-20220817-p5baia
    If David Hurley is in the clear over the secrecy surrounding Scott Morrison’s weird multi-ministry title-athon, then the Governor-General is in trouble. Not the man, but his office, says Michael Pascoe.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2022/08/18/governor-general-david-hurley-michael-pascoe/
    The news of former PM Scott Morrison’s deception has shown us how fragile our democracy can be. Dr Jennifer Wilson examines possible reasons behind such a pursuit of ultimate power.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/scott-morrison–the-man-behind-the-swindle,16678
    Fresh questions are emerging about Scott Morrison’s secret ministerial grab after it was revealed former Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack knew about one of the appointments. On the ABC’s Q+A program on Thursday night, former Resources Minister Keith Pitt confirmed Mr McCormack was aware of Mr Morrison swearing himself in as resources minister in 2021.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2022/08/19/scott-morrison-ministries-memes/?breaking_live_scroll=1
    Scott Morrison had a penchant for secrecy and centralising power, writes Paul Karp how gives us four examples.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/19/scott-morrison-had-a-penchant-for-secrecy-and-centralising-power-here-are-four-examples
    While this is undoubtedly a disgraceful “trashing of democracy”, as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese described it, it is hardly out of character for a man who denigrated his privileged position throughout his prime ministership. Indeed, Morrison even admitted his distrust of “governments” at the first opportunity, in front of fellow Pentecostal worshippers, following the toppling of his ridiculous excuse for a government, writes Michelle Pini.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/dictator-morrison-and-the-you-made-me-do-it-defence,16677
    According to David Crowe and James Massola, Scott Morrison will face a test in parliament over his secret appointments to five ministries after the Speaker was asked by Adam Bandt to refer it to the House privileges committee.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/censure-motion-plan-against-morrison-over-secret-ministries-20220818-p5bb14.html
    Lisa Visentin reports that constitutional law experts are saying new laws are needed to ensure all ministerial appointments are made public, amid a focus on the governor-general’s assumption that former prime minister Scott Morrison would disclose his co-control of five ministries.
    https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/new-laws-needed-to-ensure-ministerial-appointments-are-transparent-constitutional-law-experts-20220818-p5bavq.html
    Scott Morrison’s horror show isn’t over — and there’s a high risk of more damage to come, says Michelle Grattan.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-19/scott-morrison-secret-ministry-albanese-governor-general/101348956
    Australia’s jobless rate is only 3.4% – so what’s holding wage growth back, asks Peter Hannam who says that an economist argues the tight labour market isn’t leading to real earnings rises is proof of a ‘deep structural weakness’.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/aug/18/australias-jobless-rate-is-only-34-so-whats-holding-wage-growth-back
    Alan Kohler tells us about a plan for the new welfare state laid out in a book by Bill Kelty.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/2022/08/18/welfare-state-mulino-kohler/
    The summit initiated by Education Minister Jason Clare last week into the current and worsening teacher shortage crisis is a welcome move. There are some prominent and knowledgeable people at the table for this discussion and their ideas are likely to be productive. However, writes Adam Voigt, the opportunity for genuine traction in this now critical pursuit isn’t in the quality of these ideas. It’s in the way they’re received politically.
    https://www.theage.com.au/education/teacher-crisis-won-t-resolve-until-we-end-game-of-political-football-20220818-p5basq.html
    Shane Wright reports that Employment Minister Tony Burke has cast doubt on the ability of the nation’s industrial relations system to deliver real wage growth despite figures showing the jobless rate falling to a 48-year low of 3.4 per cent. Burke said there were “leaks” across the IR system that meant very low unemployment was failing to deliver the wage increases most people needed to deal with soaring inflation and growing cost-of-living pressures.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/jobless-rate-falls-to-fresh-48-year-low-of-3-4-per-cent-20220818-p5bawg.html
    Annika Smethurst reckons Albanese’s budget woes may harm Andrews’ chances of a third term.
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/albanese-s-budget-woes-may-harm-andrews-chances-of-a-third-term-20220818-p5bass.html
    Motorists will be promised new policies to encourage the adoption of electric vehicles in a federal move to examine fuel efficiency standards and lift barriers that have been blamed for keeping popular overseas cars out of Australia. Chris Bowen’s decision clears the way for updated rules that could encourage global car makers to sell more EVs in the local market, with Volkswagen Australia chief executive Paul Sansom saying he was struggling to convince his parent company to supply more vehicles under the existing regime.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/bowen-revs-up-debate-on-fuel-efficiency-standards-20220818-p5bb1a.html
    We don’t need subsidies to fuel Australia’s EV future, argues Jennifer Hewett.
    https://www.afr.com/companies/transport/fuelling-an-electric-vehicle-future-doesn-t-need-subsidies-20220818-p5baxp
    Lucy Cormack reports that a former Liberal MP who interviewed John Barilaro for a US trade post believes other candidates had greater experience, telling an inquiry he felt disrespected and “bypassed” in the recruitment process for the plum role.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/uk-agent-general-claims-barilaro-perrottet-agreed-to-take-care-of-his-remuneration-demands-inquiry-told-20220818-p5baxd.html
    Oh no! Mary Ward writes that doctors will be able to book transport for patients to clinics and hospitals via a new Uber service launched across Australia this week, as the multinational ride-share company moves into the healthcare space. But privacy experts are concerned about the Uber Health platform, saying doctors may not consider the implications of patient information being held by a third-party corporation.
    https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/uber-moves-into-healthcare-with-australian-patient-transport-service-20220818-p5batt.html
    Imagine having a local healthcare centre where you could see your GP, take your child to the paediatrician, see your dietician or psychologist and know that your on-site general physician and GP were working together to help you manage your diabetes problems, all supported by a strong Medicare system. Two medical professionals propose a healthcare revolution.
    https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/the-healthcare-revolution-we-all-need-a-one-stop-shop-from-gp-to-specialist-20220818-p5baue.html
    The first of the five focus areas identified by the Strengthening Medicare Taskforce is to have a reliable training and development pipeline, to build a strong and vibrant primary health care workforce. This is a logical and critical first step, but it is a well-known maxim that form must follow function, writes Mary Chiarella who suggests what the strengthening Medicare Taskforce must do to modernise the primary health care workforce.
    https://johnmenadue.com/creating-and-retaining-the-primary-health-care-workforce-pipeline-some-thoughts-for-the-strengthening-medicare-taskforce/
    Women’s wages have not moved any closer to matching men’s, even as they join the workforce in greater numbers, with men taking home an average of $263.90 more than women each week, writes Katina Curtis.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/gender-pay-gap-stagnates-despite-more-women-finding-jobs-20220818-p5bar5.html
    The property market is a favourite for money launderers, forcing ordinary Australians to compete with organised crime for their dream home, says investigative author Nathan Lynch. He blames the power of lobbyists as a cancer on our democracy. Lynch’s new book is a wake-up call, writes Stephanie Tran.
    https://michaelwest.com.au/lucky-laundry-review-aml-australia-property-money-laundering/
    The far-right disinformation pipeline that now spans the globe goes straight from Trumpland to Australia, writes Van Badham who says the anti-vaxxers obstructing hospital entries in Melbourne are consuming the same misinformation and subsuming the same moral values as the Americans.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/18/the-far-right-disinformation-pipeline-that-now-spans-the-globe-goes-straight-from-trumpland-to-australia
    “Florida calls teen ‘too immature’ for an abortion. But forced motherhood is fine?”, writes Jill Filipovic who declares that the Florida court’s decision is shameful, nothing less than an ideological assault on a teenager.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/18/florida-teen-abortion-forced-motherhood
    The SMH editorial says that the fate of Liz Cheney, a Republican who dared criticise Donald Trump, is a harbinger of more instability in US politics, and that US conservatives must put the rule of law before tribal loyalty.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/us-conservatives-must-put-the-rule-of-law-before-tribal-loyalty-20220818-p5bazy.html
    Liz Cheney was purged by the cult of Trumpism. Richard Wolffe wonders who is next.
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/18/liz-cheneys-defeat-nature-of-trumpism

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  26. nath @ #23 Friday, August 19th, 2022 – 8:12 am

    C@tmomma says:
    Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:08 am

    Yes, why doesn’t nath go over to the GG thread if he has so much to say about it? Relevance Deprivation? Others are only responding to him.
    ________
    Shsh please. Adults are talking.

    So, how come said, self-described ‘adult’ can’t read the headings of different threads, comprehend them and respond accordingly?

  30. i think the ggs position is just as untenable as morrison he would have known that the request off morrison was doggyand his explanation that he would of acspected morrison to not be secritive but after two years doing nothing leaves him no choice but to resign as does morrison plus on past form morrison during the introduction of stopping the boats morrison has a track record of hiding behind hthe military to avoid scruteny used angus campbell now cdf to avoid questions on boat arivals when immigration minister

  31. I also agree that acspecting military leaders to guard our constatution given that they come from a structure where you never question any order given reguardlis of its merit are the worst choice to protect democrasy a lawyer or x mp would be better i think juley bishop would be a good gg

  32. Nath

    Have you ever worked in the Federal government? You are making stuff up.

    There were signed instruments that appointed Morrison to multiple ministries. Those had to go through the normal drafting process, and were not gazetted. That is a marked change from normal procedure, and there is a whole unit of people who run those procedures. The actions required to be published in the Commonwealth of Australia Gazette, Government Notices are listed. They include ministerial appointments.
    https://www.nla.gov.au/apps/govpubs/?action=FindPublication&category=Go&publicationType=5&jurisdiction=2

    The GG has over 70 staff, including lawyers. This is the org chart.
    https://www.gg.gov.au/sites/default/files/2022-07/Organisational%20Structure%20-%201%20Jul%202022.pdf

    So this whole episode clearly did not follow normal established procedures. Those responsible for performing those procedures must have been instructed not to do so, or they could have ben sacked for failing to do so.

    This was not some administrative oversight. Morrison’s secret ministries required deliberate action to create and conceal. Those told to conceal them must have known they were concealed, because they did not complete the normal gazettal process.

  33. Politically, Albanese is presenting and demonstrating mature government. Reminding people of the selfish chaos of the last 9 years is not just a necessary political strategy it’s also necessary to show people who might have forgotten, or who never knew, what government actually means. I think that’s the relevant framework for interpreting Albanese’s actions regarding the GG or anything else.

    (From the GG thread, but I think also relevant in general.)

  34. we need an independent investigation maybi even a roil comition in to this weather morrison used any off these extra positions to over ride his ministers and what his staff and gg newi dont think we can trust morrisons word what he only used the powers on pep 11 given his record of luying andsecrisy this has dun a well foor republicans

  35. plus seems suspicous in hinesight the gs lobeying that the government handid over money in last budget to his leadership foundation

  36. Socrates says:
    Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:25 am

    Nath

    Have you ever worked in the Federal government? You are making stuff up.
    ___________
    No I haven’t. If I’m wrong it’s not because I am making stuff up but because I don’t have the correct information. Anyway, let’s hope the truth of it all becomes evident soon. Have a nice day.

  37. nath @ Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:12 am

    “Shsh please. Adults are talking.”

    I love the smell of irony in the morning 🙂

  39. Thanks BK!

    While the Morrison show has steamrolled over the Barilaro affair, there is yet more in this one:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/18/john-barilaro-suggested-london-trade-commissioner-apply-for-the-job

    I am particularly intrigued but Rick Morton’s tweets yesterday:

    In the Barilaro inquiry, the recruiter from NGS Global Dr Marianne Broadbent has just said she was "shocked and surprised" by public servant Amy Brown's evidence that a panel report in which Barilaro was NOT the preferred candidate was sent to her in error.— Rick Morton (@SquigglyRick) August 18, 2022

  40. GG

    Thanks for the excellent roundup. Some thoughtful pieces today.

    I still look forward to the results of Albo’s inquiry with the SG. As I documented in my own post above, you can’t get appointed a minister by accident, nor does the gazettal process get stopped by accident. Morrison or his staff must have issued deliberate instructions to cause that not to happen. People knew.

    Which brings us back to the still unanswered question – why? As per Itza Dream’s post at 8.05am, when you look at timing, there are several potential instances where Morrison might have used these powers to advance personal agendas. We still need to get to the bottom of that.

    Another person who has been conspicuously quiet on this whole saga is Alex Hawke. I have to wonder if he is involved? The silence is deafening.

  41. Griff @ #39 Friday, August 19th, 2022 – 8:41 am

    Thanks BK!

    While the Morrison show has steamrolled over the Barilaro affair, there is yet more in this one:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/18/john-barilaro-suggested-london-trade-commissioner-apply-for-the-job

    I am particularly intrigued but Rick Morton’s tweets yesterday:

    In the Barilaro inquiry, the recruiter from NGS Global Dr Marianne Broadbent has just said she was "shocked and surprised" by public servant Amy Brown's evidence that a panel report in which Barilaro was NOT the preferred candidate was sent to her in error.— Rick Morton (@SquigglyRick) August 18, 2022

    Did you watch any of it? Dr Broadbent was very impressive, very forthright, and dropped Brown right in it.

  42. Thank you, BK.

    I can’t recall Labor promising either to leave national fuel standards as they are, or to fix national fuel standards – so this is an open policy area and one that is not factored into Labor’s promise of 43/2030. In effect this will be one of several initiatives that were not factored into 43/2030 and which may well lift the outcome well above 43/2030.
    It is just as well that Albanese finally negated the decade long curse of the Dutton/Bandt climate wedge!

  43. You know, I used to think that The Saturday Paper would never have enough to write about every week that hadn’t already been written about in the rest of the media the week prior. Boy was I wrong! They have so much to go to that other media won’t touch, or don’t get the time to go into deeply. Thank goodness for The Saturday Paper. They have been a worthwhile addition to the Australian media landscape.

  44. ItzaDream @ Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:51 am

    Work got in the way sadly. Thanks for the summary which concurs nicely with Rick Morton’s tweets. So why is Amy Brown still there? Who is she protecting? Perrottet may be in trouble?

  45. Griff @ #37 Friday, August 19th, 2022 – 8:35 am

    nath @ Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:12 am

    “Shsh please. Adults are talking.”

    I love the smell of irony in the morning 🙂

    Note also that Itza was the first to comment about the existence of the other thread but nath chose to attack me instead when I brought it up. 🙄

  46. Griff @ #44 Friday, August 19th, 2022 – 8:55 am

    ItzaDream @ Friday, August 19, 2022 at 8:51 am

    Work got in the way sadly. Thanks for the summary which concurs nicely with Rick Morton’s tweets. So why is Amy Brown still there? Who is she protecting? Perrottet may be in trouble?

    Has the Inquiry concluded? Don’t they usually do the sacking after the Inquiry has wound up?

  47. Thanks BK for this snippet.

    Imagine having a local healthcare centre where you could see your GP, take your child to the paediatrician, see your dietician or psychologist and know that your on-site general physician and GP were working together to help you manage your diabetes problems, all supported by a strong Medicare system. Two medical professionals propose a healthcare revolution.

    https://www.smh.com.au/healthcare/the-healthcare-revolution-we-all-need-a-one-stop-shop-from-gp-to-specialist-20220818-p5baue.html

    My local bulk-bill GP operates out of what is essentially a strip mall but off street with tall covered open air spaces. Also in the same block are a pharmacist, pathology service, radiologist (ultra sound, x-ray, CT scan), a couple of food outlets and barista for those inclined, pet services, an educational something or other and I think there’s a gym or yoga place too. There’s a new child minding centre a block away. The mall isn’t flash, but it is pretty convenient. In other words, it looks like there are already self-organising trends towards this sort of general health and well being centre.

  49. All the “Scott Morrison” stuff still flooding over us at the moment (thank you BK for curating) reminds me of a tweet I spotted last night, wtte, Mr Morrison is like herpes, just when you think its gone it comes back worse than before.

  50. Why?

    Because someone had to rise not only above the wicked people of Australia, but also their representatives in the parliament.

    ‘Timothy 3:1-5

    But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people.’

    I take Timothy 3:1-5 as a sign from the Lord NOT to vote for the Coalition.

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