The fortnightly Roy Morgan federal poll had Labor leading 56-44, in from 56.5-43.5 last time. The primary votes were Coalition 33.5% (down half), Labor 37% (down half), Greens 11.5% (steady), One Nation 3% (down half) and United Australia Party 1% (steady).
The state breakdowns have Labor leading 56.6-43.5 in New South Wales (out from 56-44, a swing of around 9%), 60-40 in Victoria (in from 63.5-36.5, a swing of around 7%), 53-47 in Western Australia (out from 52-48, a swing of around 8.5%), 54.5-45.5 in South Australia (out from 52.5-47.5, a swing of around 4%) and 66.5-33.5 from the small sample in Tasmania (a swing of 10.5%), with the Coalition leading 52-48 in Queensland (a swing to Labor of around 6.5%).
The poll was conducted Thursday, March 3 to Sunday, March 13 from a sample of 1947.
Other poll snippets:
• The West Australian has continued to eke out results of its Utting Research poll, encompassing 750 respondents in the seats of Tangney, Hasluck, Pearce and Swan, from which the voting intention findings were covered here. Leadership ratings from the poll show Scott Morrison on 42% approval and 43% disapproval, which is broadly similar to other polling; Anthony Albanese on 28% approval and 45% disapproval, which is quite a bit worse (the most recent Newspoll breakdown from the state had it at 28% and 45%); and Mark McGowan on 67% approval and 24% disapproval. Further findings from the poll reported yesterday showed 31% saying they were worried about the COVID situation in WA, with 31% not worried; 34% confident hospitals can handle the pressure, with 38% not confident; 49% rating petrol prices will be an issue for them at the federal election, with 41% saying they will not be; and 49% holding that Australia should do more to help Ukraine, with 23% thinking otherwise.
• My own poll trend calculations provide the basis of this review of the situation by CGM Communications, which feature more up-to-date state trend measures than those presently to be found on my BludgerTrack display.
• A YouGov survey of 15,000 respondents, commissioned by the Australian Conservation Foundation, found 29% support for the government’s position on net zero carbon emissions by 2050, 41% believed it did not go far enough and 12% felt it went too far. The sample size allowed for breakdowns by electorate, which can be explored in detail on the Age/Herald site
It’s interesting that the media – other than the Guardian – never showed the slightest bit of interest in all the people who were driven to suicide by the greatest act of bastardry in political history – robodebt.
People having children or not has absolutely no bearing on any matter of public policy and it’s always inappropriate to use it as a debating point. Wong knows this and apologised accordingly.
Who was the Coalition politician who criticized Gillard for being childless?
Did he apologise?
So much irony in the whole Kitching thing. Excellent article by Alice Dawkins today skewering the hypocrisy of the ALP.
I recall the outrage and lynch mob re Brittany Higgins and then Christian Porter.
Of course both Labor and Liberal are full of practised hypocrites.
The story is a blessing in disguise as it flushes out the flunkies that infest our Fourth Estate. Talk about politics and go negative too early and you run the risk of disengaged swinging voters turning off before the home straight.
Very helpful as well to spot the flunkies that are employed by us, the taxpayer. Hopefully new management at the ABC will manage accordingly.
FS
It was Bill Heffernan
TPOF @ #651 Saturday, March 19th, 2022 – 9:55 am
This. 🙁
Fulvio Sammut @ #653 Saturday, March 19th, 2022 – 10:00 am
Bill Heffernan.
Yes, he did. Though whether it was honest apology is another question.
Thanks, Lurker.
@Lars Anyone comparing this to Christian Porter is just outing themselves as the kind of people who see no distinguishment between heated arguments and rape. Thank you for doing so.
Lars, you arn’t seriously comparing the Kitching situation to several alleged rapes, are you?
@Cat:
“ I still think bringing a Magnitsky Act to the Australian parliament was an unalloyed good thing.”
And there you are: cleaving to US Republican Party politics. just like the late Grouper Wolverine herself.
As a concept, the Magnitsky Act might have merit. In practice it is a disgrace. It mocks universal human rights because it is only ever used against enemies of the state (ie. they fall on the wrong side of US foreign policy). Not because of their appalling human rights abuses, but because they are enemies of the state. If the targets weren’t enemies of the state then they could get away with killing thousands, even millions of people, no questions asked. Certainly no Magnitsky Act sanctions would be in play.
Asha @ Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:34 am
Yes, Lars is – just sealioning along with nath. Lars no doubt will say that it wasn’t the intent of course.
This is what you call bullying and inquiry is needed https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nasty-saga-you-nearly-missed-20091025-hem5.html
The Daily Telegraph had published four stories about Michael Towke which he believed had defamed him, destroyed his political career, and caused untold stress to his family. ”These stories sent my mother to hospital,” he told me. ”They demonised me. I wanted to confront them in court.”
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And guess who this Newsltd bullying and propaganda advantage the one and only Scott Morrison to get pre-selected
Not having children shouldn’t stop you from understanding the issue, just as having daughters isn’t the only way for a main to understand sexual assault is wrong.
“ Lars, you arn’t seriously comparing the Kitching situation to several alleged rapes, are you?”
Of course he is.
In L’arse’s mind, enforcing party discipline, is tantamount to rape. To do so, even in the face of proven disloyalty, makes Kristina Kennelly, Penny Wong and Kate Gallagher the moral equivalents of the Scaf Brothers.
Griff:
Actually, Nath’s comments on the Kitching mess have been very much in line with the majority here.
Nath hasn’t expressed any view on this matter remotely like Lars’s. I count six people who have taken a shot at him so far without any hint of provocation or misbehaviour on his part. When he does fire back though, I’ll be expected to believe a blameless innocent had been wantonly victimised by the forum’s one and only uber-troll.
TOPF….I just don’t take the trouble to read AA. Is it meant as satire? Or as some other comedy? I can’t be bothered trying to work it out. It’s posted as nonsense. Fine. Nonsense it is. The author is not making a point that I can discern, other than, perhaps, that language is inherently obscure anyway. I agree about that, but so what.
We could all take to words with the peeler and the paring knife and slit and chop chop and julienne our meanings and the simmer them with some rice wine and salt and make a reduction and serve them in a dish, an oval white dish, with pepper and fresh expectations and savour them as the morning breaking fast while we eye one another across the table and wonder if our memories are fading as fast as our eyesight; and whether the loss of agility in our limbs exceeds the stiffness in our thoughts; and then take to black coffee with opened lips and sip the sharp dark tang and recall the sunlit days and the swooning nights and all the hollows and pits and shadows and contours and aromas and the music too. Some chimes in the wind on the verandah.
Crowe..
Close friends of Senator Kitching said she was treated badly by the trio of Senate leaders when they took her off the Labor tactics group in the upper house and gave her very few chances to ask a question in question time. Others said they respected her independence but could see the tension with Senators Wong, Keneally and Gallagher.
“When you speak your mind, two things happen: you gain respect, but you antagonise people on your own side,” said one Liberal.
Patrick Durkin
BOSS Deputy editor April 2018
Holgate’s assassin becomes her supporter…
Christine Holgate’s Cartier watch scandal has forged some strange political bedfellows, including Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young, Pauline Hanson and Nationals senator Bridget McKenzie.
Holgate’s political assassin, Labor senator Kimberley Kitching, was another who arrived at Tuesday’s public reckoning adorned in white top and jacket in a symbol of support for the ousted chief executive.
Lets just stop with the bulling & faux sympathy crap… It appears Kitching wasn’t flavour of the month with the Labor strategy / policy unit.. I’m sure it wasn’t the first or last time this will happen.
Did Kitching take into account Holgate’s feelings NO.. did she switch to being a two faced supporter of Holgate when it suited her.. YES
I am saying asha people are entitled to the same standards or fairness of treatment irrespective of the politics in it.
You appear to be implying the standard of fairness or treatment given to the accused should depend on the seriousness of the allegation.
I don’t think anybody can get fairness – where they essentially have to answer allegations from a dead person.
Secondly if you don’t let things follow an impartial process (when it suits you) – you cannot complain when your held to the same (when it doesn’t suit you).
I’m going out. See y’all at the count in Adelaide !!
For Morrison, the people have spoken in WA. The bastards!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1504374518722138112
GG:
Beautiful.
ALP supporters are running the risk of being seen as hypocrites after getting their kicks from the Liberal Party’s women’s issues but are now downplaying the alleged Kitching story. It looks like some people were more interested in turning the Liberals women issues into a partisan issue instead of addressing the parliament’s cultural problem.
WB,
I agree. As I mentioned last night, his commentary has been measured and thoughtful since his return. I hope it continues.
The former was raped in a Minister’s office, then humiliated, then called a “cow” by that Minister, then booted out of her job.
The latter committed suicide, allegedly after being sexually assaulted by another Minister.
Are you suggesting that Kitching killed herself? Over a routine matter of party discipline and pre-selection?
Did anyone kill themselves when Morrison had the DT spread defamatory rumours about Towke? What about when Turnbull stacked the branches in Wentworth? Are the streets running with blood because of the NSW Liberals right now? If stress really did kill Kitching, perhaps she just wasn’t physically fit enough to be in politics?
Actually, the more I hear revealed about Kitching’s behaviour, the more I understand why the ALP wanted to be rid of her. Not a team player. In fact deliberately shepherding for the other side. Her complaints to friends sound more like entitled whingeing than principled criticism.
Indeed, what responsibilities did her friends have for allowing such an obviously sick woman (the exophthalmos was a giveaway) to be put under such stress. Perhaps there’s a bit of guilt there in her friends’ minds, deflecting the blame to others.
Mexicanbeemer says:
Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:47 am
ALP supporters are running the risk of being seen as hypocrites after getting their kicks from the Liberal Party’s women’s issues but are now downplaying the alleged Kitching story. It looks like some people were more interested in turning the Liberals women issues into a partisan issue instead of addressing the parliament’s cultural problem.
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MB
There are dramatic demonstrable (for those with an attention span greater than a gnat) differences between the two situations. Unfortunately the media, the Liberals and a small band of nasty players in a Labor faction in Victoria have a vested interest in making it look same-same. Ugly business and women, in and out of politics, are the losers. Again.
Alice Dawkins’ piece was … well, more conflation IMO. She was trying to make a through-line about workplace safety, but this falls down at the first hurdle because the evidence that Kitching was subject to an unsafe workplace is very thin indeed.
The basic point about Dawkins’ own experience is valid in itself – the argy bargy that all too frequently consumes internal party politics needs to be toned down through active enforcement of standards to an acceptable level that doesn’t involve so much vitriol and individuals throwing their weight around. But there is no indication that Dawkins has any particular insight into Kitching’s experience and seems to be assuming some sort of commonality without providing any evidence to justify it.
Personally I think it is necessarily an almost intractable problem because politics is never smooth and easy for any participant. I don’t really see how it’s possible to not have heated debate where various parties will feel aggrieved and victimized – there will always be losers in these things. Some sort of coating of civility and politeness helps, naturally, but fundamentally politics is about trying to get your way and dominate others. Politics as civilized war.
WB – Nath has been very much a troll, though – IMO of course – and in the past has been very successful at derailing this forum into being the Nath show for long periods.
Of course if he has reformed and actually wants to contribute without just stirring then that’s great. I won’t be holding my breath on that front.
TPOF
The both situations play to the parliament’s cultural problem.
BB makes the point about what responsibilities did her friends have for allowing such an obviously sick woman to be put under such stress. and this comes to the heart of it because we are seeing a pattern where women claim bullying has taken place but people in the political culture from both sides of politics are saying but its typical political party factional politics.
Seven.
The bullying complaint to Marles that fell on deaf ears is the issue. There is no excuse these days . Every complaint, no matter how minor should be investigated.
Am no fan of Andrews but he was on solid ground and was able to ride out the Vaghela allegations because he acted.
If Vic Labor can do it why can’t Federal Labor.
If they want to govern this country then they really need to get thier shit together.
Hurrah, I get counted by WB, I feel blessed.
Mexicanbeemer,
This is not a “women’s issue”. There is no allegation that it is, except yours of course.
Lars, thanks for helping us understand the depths of Lieberal desperation.
Such a dire position in the lead-up to an election that you and your kind need to try and make the Kitching situation somehow even slightly equivalent to the Higgins/Porter (and other) situations.
Pathetic.
Re AAron (or Aaron),
People can rail against the current standard of English teaching and English teachers (I used to be one long ago), but dyslexia is a serious affliction that no teacher, system or syllabus can do much to rectify. I call on all bludgers to show a little patience and tolerance.
Taylormade writes:
The only fly in his impeccable ointment is that no complaint was lodged.
And now none can.
This is not a gender issue. It is a simple matter of party discipline which a few people with agendas allege went too far.
Is anyone aware of who the election night panels may be on ABC News 24 and SkyNews.
As an ex Adelaidean I plan to monitor and discuss with my fellow ex Adelaidean friend down in Tassie tonight. As well as monitor Poll Bludger of course
Drongo,
Well said!
Many years ago Ron was driven from PB by a few of the house bullies at the time because of his dyslexia. However, his memory lives on in the oft repeated “wRong”.
BB
Its a political cultural problem.
Lars
Re Sinn Féin refusing the first ministry and continuing as Deputy:
1. I don’t think it is constitutionally possible if they win the plurality
2. Why would they do it? I suspect that SF are now playing the end-game and owe Stormont nothing.
Stormont made dysfunctional by the Unionists would be a massive own goal – so much so that Donaldson might consider the Deputy position. But I think that’s unlikely and Direct Rule will be imposed with many of the Northern Irish then re-considering the future of the province
Well, he did have a shot at Bill this morning, like a dog returning to his vomit. Eight.
Imagine if Kitching had been a Liberal – twitter would have been full of the likes of Jane Caro and Julia Baird decrying her treatment, but when it’s an issue on the left side of politics, the usual critics of the Morrison Govt are rather silent.
All because Kitching had some friends on the other side of politics and didn’t cosy up to the virtue signallers of the left, she was considered fair game by some in the party. And alas her replacement in the Senate no doubt will be some union hack with very little to contribute
Alice Dawkin’s article in today’s Nine papers ought to be compulsory reading
A former general manager of the Health Services Union, perchance.
William Bowe says:
Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:02 pm
Seven.
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I’m sure you counted me earlier (maybe no 1), but I would echo what Jackal says.
I’m reminded that everyone thought Morrison had learnt the lesson from the way he behaved during the 2019-2020 bushfires and had learnt the qualities required of leadership during the initial response to the pandemic. I always thought that leopards don’t change their spots. In that case I was dead right.
Perplexed about the apparent ‘lack of fair treatment’ meted out to Kitchings. She was excluded from the tactics committee because she was a notorious leaker of said tactics. Which came to a head over Labor’s pursuit of Senator Reynolds behaviour concerning Brittany Higgins.
That’s for starters. Personally I think it unfair on the rest of us life long members of the ALP that she wasn’t simply expelled from the party a longtime ago. But out of fairness I was prepared to allow the party processes do their work. Eventually.
L’arse then of course wants to use a fake story to peddle a false equivalence angle. Which is pretty much what the media is doing.
Evan
A lot of politicians form friendships with politicians from other parties.
Make your mind up mate, or else we might think you’re issue shopping.
Similarly, it is so obvious that “Aaron” is going to a lot of trouble to mangle his spelling and grammar (artfully so, I might add, but just a tad too readably) that I’m surprised Drongo fell for it.
Not everything involving a woman involves her simply because she is a woman, and not every bot that comes along mangling the language is dyslexic.
The Cave’s local rag. What sneaky manoeuvre is going on ? It damned well won’t be ‘what it says on the carton’ .