The big issue

Issue polling, Tasmanian polling, election timing and preselection latest.

Note posts below this on latest developments in the Western Australian campaign and a new state poll from South Australia. In other polling news, we have the latest from a regular series on issue salience and a state poll from Tasmania that I don’t quite feel warrants a post of its own:

• The latest True Issues survey of issue salience from JWS Research records a slight moderation of the coronavirus-driven peculiarities of the mid-year results, in that 42% now rate health among the top three issues (down from 47% in June, but still well up on 24% in February) and 19% do so for environment (up three on last time, but still well down on 26% in February. However, a spike in concern about the economy (steady at 32%, compared with 18% in February) and employment and wages (up two to 30%, compared with 21% in February) has not abated. Nineteen per cent rate the federal government’s response to COVID-19 as very good and 37% as good, but state governments collectively fare better at 29% and 35%. Positive ratings are markedly lower in Victoria for both the federal and state governments. Plenty more detail here from the poll, which was conducted from February 18 to 22 from a sample of 1000.

• The latest quarterly EMRS poll of state voting intention in Tasmania is little changed on the previous result in November, with the incumbent Liberals steady on 52%, Labor up two to 27% and the Greens up one to 14%, with the only complication to a static picture being a four point drop for “others” to 7%. Peter Gutwein’s lead over Labor’s Rebecca White as preferred premier is unchanged at 52-27. The poll was conducted by phone from Monday, February 15 to Tuesday, February 23, from a sample of 1000. Much analysis as always from Kevin Bonham.

Other relevant developments:

• The conventional wisdom that the election would be held in the second half of this year, most likely around September, was disturbed by an Age/Herald report last week that the Prime Minister had “told colleagues to plan for two federal budgets before the Coalition government heads to the polls”.

Sarah Elks of The Australian reports Warren Entsch, who has held the far north Queensland seat of Leichhardt for the Liberals and the Liberal National Party outside of a one-term time-out from 2007 to 2010, has gone back on his decision to retire. The 70-year-old announced this term would be his last on the night of the 2019 election, but now feels it “incumbent on me during these uncertain times to continue to support our community and its residents”.

The Advertiser reports the Prime Minister has told South Australian factional leaders they are expected to preselect a woman to succeed Nicolle Flint in Boothby. This presumably reduces the chances of the position going to state Environment Minister David Speirs, who said last week he was “pondering” a run. The Advertiser suggests the front runners are Rachel Swift, a factional moderate and infectious diseases expert who currently has the unwinnable fourth position on the Senate ticket, and Leah Blyth, a conservative and head of student services at Adelaide University. Another woman mentioned as a possibility by Tom Richardson of InDaily was Marion Themeliotis, Onkaparinga councillor and staffer to state Davenport MP Steve Murray.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. C@tmomma says:
    Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 6:44 pm
    …..
    In 3, 2, 1…Player One will fire up the Smarm gene and come up with…’you call that a policy?’

    I mean, it’s really, really easy to be an armchair critic from the comfort of your Eco Resort on the South Coast of NSW. And I hazard a guess, that’s all Player One has ever done.

    We will soon find out if she actually read it, there is a paragraph begging to be taken out of context.

  2. ‘EUpians’ look serious.
    .
    .
    “We will not ratify a trade deal if there is no concrete additional climate action from Australia,”
    .
    The European Parliament has voted to introduce a carbon levy on imports into the EU from countries with weaker emission rules.
    .
    …up to $77 per tonne under the new scheme.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-11/australia-to-face-huge-tariffs-in-europe-over-climate-emissions/13233360#:~:text=The%20European%20Parliament%20has%20voted,multibillion%2Ddollar%20free%20trade%20agreement

  3. “From what I have heard from him, Zac Kirkup seems to be a decent sort of guy.”
    Perhaps he should go to Canberra and replace Morrison.

  4. ‘BK says:
    Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    From what I have heard from him, Zac Kirkup seems to be a decent sort of guy.’

    His electorate will probably ensure that he stays that way by voting him out.

  5. rhwombat @ #2131 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 5:40 pm

    ItzaDream @ #2969 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 3:57 pm

    E. G. Theodore @ #1816 Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 – 11:05 pm

    Itza:
    If I’m not understanding or addressing your points I apologise.
    (Sorry that’s rushed – there’s a bloke about to arrive to discuss a housing for a new generator. Finally)

    Thanks Itza/EGT.

    (Trigger warning: the following is TL:DR for those not obsessed with proper distractions like photo-ops & male insecurity. I’ve tried to edit the nesting but I may have stuffed up – my apologies if so. Longwindedness is my curse.)

    My reference to interscalene or paraspinal blocks (for control of pain from fractured ribs – a la Andrews) requiring monitoring was a bit hurried and obscure.

    The issue with monitoring local anaesthetic (LA) blocks for fractured ribs is not blood pressure (BP) monitoring, but oxygen saturation (O2sat) monitoring. One of the problems with multiple fractured ribs is that the intercostal muscles that contribute to breathing run between (and pull on) the ribs, so pain is “relieved” by splinting – moving the ribs as little as possible. This often results in hypoventilation – breathing too shallowly to maintain adequate oxygen supply to the brain over the days that the fractures take to begin healing. Pain control is difficult, because most of the systemic analgesics (like morphine) directly suppress ventilation (at least when initially used). LA to the local rib # sites does not last long enough. Multiple fractured ribs are a major problem in trauma.

    Paraspinal or interscalene blocks use LA injected into the vicinity of major sensory nerves plexuses (further out from the spine or the epidural space) – usually with a catheter placed under ultrasound guidance by specifically trained anesthetists or other procedural pain specialists (like my wife). Like an epidural, this can be “topped up” with more LA as the need arises – but the catheter can “migrate” to the wrong place. These are not the epidural (or spinal) injections of LA used for low abdominal (or below) procedures (like yours EGT), where the aim is to relieve pain below the lumbar level at which the block is inserted – albeit at the potential complication of blocking the autonomic vascular pressure control nerves below that lumbar (lower back) spine level. This means that blood pressure control (and monitoring) is critical post epidural, but O2sat (measured continuously by infrared reflectance from oxygenated haemoglobin in skin circulation) rarely is.

    The innervation of the major breathing muscles (mainly the diaphragm & intercostals – between the ribs) comes off the spinal cord at thoracic (chest) & cervical (neck) levels. It is difficult to do an epidural (or spinal) block at thoracic levels without some effect on breathing muscles, but much easier with the more peripheral blocks – which (usually) include fewer of the critical motor & autonomic nerves than thoracic epidurals. One still needs to monitor O2 sats continuously with # ribs – even with paraspinal or peripheral blocks.
    One of the reasons I’m familiar with this is that my 90 year-old mother benefited greatly from the first interscalene block done at the Sydney Adventist Hospital when she broke 3 ribs in a fall last year. Dan has earned it.

    Good to hear about the interscalene blocks rhwombat. Hope she is doing well. I’ve lost track of how this started; I thought it was EGT talking about blood pressure monitoring post op associated with some ‘block’, but it’s obviously much more than that.

    btw, I remember John Hunter pioneering thoracic epidurals for chest trauma, the anaesthetist/intensivist’s name escapes me now, but a true pioneer.

  6. p
    It couldn’t happen to a more corrupt federal government.
    It makes Cormann’s chances look a little worse, as well. Fingers x’ed.

  7. BK I agree with you on the Uighurs but I would say the criticism belongs to both major parties, not the left. The Greens have objected seriously. Labor and Libs have not.

  8. Bert
    If you are young and fit, strapping rib fractures is fine. But as you get older, your reserves are much less and splinting your breathing can make your breathing too shallow.

  9. Bert @ #2174 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 6:48 pm

    RHWombat and Itsa, my experience with broken ribs from a purely personal experience was “strapping” works.

    I broke four ribs in a football game along with getting knocked out and I recall when I “came round” the pain I experienced was excruciating when breathing but that subsided once I’d been “strapped up. I didn’t need any pain killers apart from aspirin, don’t remember if paracetamol was available then or not. Strapping came off after a couple of weeks and away I went again.

    My question is when was it decided that rib injuries should be left alone and managed with analgesia and why? I always feel sorry for people with rib fractures now when comparing how I was treated to how it’s done now including my mum when she broke a couple after a fall.

    Immobilisation (“strapping”) of fractured ribs (+/- “simple” ie non-opioid analgesia like aspirin, paracetamol or non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) eg ibuprofen) works if you can afford the ~ 3-10 days of not moving the ribs (“splinting”) – which many young, fit people can. The problems are if there are multiple ribs fractured, “flail segments” (ribs with multiple fractures), or if the patient is older or has compromised lungs – in which case the immobilisation can be lethal. This is where measuring the O2 saturation (particularly at night, when sleeping) is important – mandating hospital admission in most cases. Lungs have great redundancy, but present peculiar problems for surgery.

  10. ‘Socrates says:
    Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 7:16 pm

    BK I agree with you on the Uighurs but I would say the criticism belongs to both major parties, not the left. The Greens have objected seriously. Labor and Libs have not.’

    Uh huh. One of my points is that Xi has already succeeded in degrading Australian democracy by forcing the Government and the Loyal Opposition to STFU.

    Further, there is no real national debate on ANY issue having to do with China. (The Greens grandstanding without spelling out the ‘urgent action’ they want and the ‘sanctions’ they want don’t count.)

    Further, Xi has promised to invade Taiwan if they Taiwanese force him to do it, and is clearly getting up the military capability to do it. (I would hate to live on Quemoi or Matsu, ATM. I thank the day that one of my sons failed to get a project up on one of those islands.)
    Biden has threatened anything and everything up to nuclear war should Xi try it.
    Further, Morrison is clearly run by the numerous China Hawks in his staff. Morrison is showing all the signs of getting ready for war with China.
    Meanwhile the basic impossibility of having one economic hegemon and another military hegemon is NOT being confronted.

  11. ItzaDream @ #2240 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 7:14 pm

    rhwombat @ #2131 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 5:40 pm

    ItzaDream @ #2969 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 3:57 pm

    E. G. Theodore @ #1816 Wednesday, March 10th, 2021 – 11:05 pm

    Itza:
    If I’m not understanding or addressing your points I apologise.
    (Sorry that’s rushed – there’s a bloke about to arrive to discuss a housing for a new generator. Finally)

    Thanks Itza/EGT.

    (Trigger warning: the following is TL:DR for those not obsessed with proper distractions like photo-ops & male insecurity. I’ve tried to edit the nesting but I may have stuffed up – my apologies if so. Longwindedness is my curse.)

    My reference to interscalene or paraspinal blocks (for control of pain from fractured ribs – a la Andrews) requiring monitoring was a bit hurried and obscure.

    The issue with monitoring local anaesthetic (LA) blocks for fractured ribs is not blood pressure (BP) monitoring, but oxygen saturation (O2sat) monitoring. One of the problems with multiple fractured ribs is that the intercostal muscles that contribute to breathing run between (and pull on) the ribs, so pain is “relieved” by splinting – moving the ribs as little as possible. This often results in hypoventilation – breathing too shallowly to maintain adequate oxygen supply to the brain over the days that the fractures take to begin healing. Pain control is difficult, because most of the systemic analgesics (like morphine) directly suppress ventilation (at least when initially used). LA to the local rib # sites does not last long enough. Multiple fractured ribs are a major problem in trauma.

    Paraspinal or interscalene blocks use LA injected into the vicinity of major sensory nerves plexuses (further out from the spine or the epidural space) – usually with a catheter placed under ultrasound guidance by specifically trained anesthetists or other procedural pain specialists (like my wife). Like an epidural, this can be “topped up” with more LA as the need arises – but the catheter can “migrate” to the wrong place. These are not the epidural (or spinal) injections of LA used for low abdominal (or below) procedures (like yours EGT), where the aim is to relieve pain below the lumbar level at which the block is inserted – albeit at the potential complication of blocking the autonomic vascular pressure control nerves below that lumbar (lower back) spine level. This means that blood pressure control (and monitoring) is critical post epidural, but O2sat (measured continuously by infrared reflectance from oxygenated haemoglobin in skin circulation) rarely is.

    The innervation of the major breathing muscles (mainly the diaphragm & intercostals – between the ribs) comes off the spinal cord at thoracic (chest) & cervical (neck) levels. It is difficult to do an epidural (or spinal) block at thoracic levels without some effect on breathing muscles, but much easier with the more peripheral blocks – which (usually) include fewer of the critical motor & autonomic nerves than thoracic epidurals. One still needs to monitor O2 sats continuously with # ribs – even with paraspinal or peripheral blocks.
    One of the reasons I’m familiar with this is that my 90 year-old mother benefited greatly from the first interscalene block done at the Sydney Adventist Hospital when she broke 3 ribs in a fall last year. Dan has earned it.

    Good to hear about the interscalene blocks rhwombat. Hope she is doing well. I’ve lost track of how this started; I thought it was EGT talking about blood pressure monitoring post op associated with some ‘block’, but it’s obviously much more than that.

    btw, I remember John Hunter pioneering thoracic epidurals for chest trauma, the anaesthetist/intensivist’s name escapes me now, but a true pioneer.

    Anthony Quail?

  12. Stalin was only notionally of the left. In retrospect, he was an Imperialist and a despot. His successor is Putin. He antecedents were the Romanovs.

    The Left were absurdly compromised by their attitudes towards the Soviet Union. In part, this was because they’d been penetrated and manipulated by Stalin’s drones, but it was also because they chose to ignore the realities of his tyranny on ideological/political grounds. The Left exempted themselves and Stalin from moral evaluation. This characteristic is not unique to the Left but they were very successfully wedged by the Right in the postwar period.

    The Right in part defined themselves as anti-communist and depicted their opponents as either weakly opposed to or cryptically pro-communist. The Left fell for it. They should have been as vocally opposed to Stalin and his clones as anyone else and in this they failed. This was a political, intellectual and moral failure. It helped lead to the restoration of reactionary leadership – Thatcher and Reagan – in the 1980s, and to reshape the political landscape in the pluralist democracies.

    China is not an exporter of Soviet-style Revolution, and will probably not seek to occupy the lands it adjoins (the as Stalin did) but it certainly is an emergent imperialist. The West, including the Left, should oppose China’s imperialism and repression for all the plain reasons, including for the protection of the rights of the peoples of China as well as for the protection of the national borders and international zones generally.

    As usual, the Left is being wedged by the Right. This will mean the Left will continue to be largely irrelevant.

  13. As a neo-lib ‘centrist’, Biden wasn’t so arrogant as to ignore the lessons from the Hillary Clinton debacle and that you need to earn the support of progressives.

    Biden did what had to be done re his election platform and he deserved the turnout he got on election day.

  14. N @ #2248 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 7:26 pm

    Stalin was only notionally of the left. In retrospect, he was an Imperialist and a despot. His successor is Putin. He antecedents were the Romanovs.

    The Left were absurdly compromised by their attitudes towards the Soviet Union. In part, this was because they’d been penetrated and manipulated by Stalin’s drones, but it was also because they chose to ignore the realities of his tyranny on ideological/political grounds. The Left exempted themselves and Stalin from moral evaluation. This characteristic is not unique to the Left but they were very successfully wedged by the Right in the postwar period.

    The Right in part defined themselves as anti-communist and depicted their opponents as either weakly opposed to or cryptically pro-communist. The Left fell for it. They should have been as vocally opposed to Stalin and his clones as anyone else and in this they failed. This was a political, intellectual and moral failure. It helped lead to the restoration of reactionary leadership – Thatcher and Reagan – in the 1980s, and to reshape the political landscape in the pluralist democracies.

    China is not an exporter of Soviet-style Revolution, and will probably not seek to occupy the lands it adjoins (the as Stalin did) but it certainly is an emergent imperialist. The West, including the Left, should oppose China’s imperialism and repression for all the plain reasons, including for the protection of the rights of the peoples of China as well as for the protection of the national borders and international zones generally.

    As usual, the Left is being wedged by the Right. This will mean the Left will continue to be largely irrelevant.

    Where’s Rosa Luxemberg when you need her?
    (…in the Landwehr canal after being murdered by the Freikorps)

  15. N

    I do agree with you about the Left and Stalin.

    Unlike you I see the left recovering today.

    It’s not just Brazil that the law fare cases to undo the democratic will of the people have come undone. A few other South American countries have done so too.

    Of course the right backed by the CIA was willing to go the full military coup back in the day.

    Edit: Cue BW bringing up Venezuela

  16. poroti @ #2206 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 7:13 pm

    ‘EUpians’ look serious.
    .
    .
    “We will not ratify a trade deal if there is no concrete additional climate action from Australia,”
    .
    The European Parliament has voted to introduce a carbon levy on imports into the EU from countries with weaker emission rules.
    .
    …up to $77 per tonne under the new scheme.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-11/australia-to-face-huge-tariffs-in-europe-over-climate-emissions/13233360#:~:text=The%20European%20Parliament%20has%20voted,multibillion%2Ddollar%20free%20trade%20agreement

    That won’t compute in the Morrison cabinet that is full of Trump style morons and radicals.

  17. Lol!

    Tell us what you really think

    Patricia Barraclough
    @PMBarraclough
    ·
    4h
    I loathe Morrison; his shit eating grin & deluded self worth. His fuckwittery & failure to see he’s not the smartest in any room. Not even in a cubby. His clownface & his cruelty. His underlying rage. His lust for power without vision, without a plan; only promises and photo ops

  18. From someone who’d know…

    Be great to have John Anderson back in Canberra with his “values”…reminds me of the farmer whose son was involved in an insurance claim from a farm accident and was being sued for millions ..went to JA for help..said “it’s God’s will & your not too old to mow lawns” ..1/2— Tony Windsor (@TonyHWindsor) March 11, 2021

    2/2 Even tho the farmer was not a New England constituent @JohnEClements in my office took up the fight , organised meetings with the Insurance Council and legal entities and resolved the issue without the family losing their farm. I know which John has “values”.— Tony Windsor (@TonyHWindsor) March 11, 2021

  19. boerwar:

    Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    [‘Thank you. What about the Menadue list of the Porter malfeasances?’]

    Are you referring to John Menadue, former diplomat and senior public servant? If so, do you have a link? The article under, penned by Waterford, pretty well sums up Porter, but it wouldn’t per se support a move to have him struck off, even his hounding of Collaery, as he’s merely following the law – see Section 39 of the Intelligence Services Act 2001.

    https://johnmenadue.com/is-porter-fit-to-hold-public-office/

    http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/isa2001216/s39.html

  20. Andrew Robb has reappeared with a new remedy to promote… the Chinese Horn of Plenty must have dried up..

    ‘When his daily pile of antidepressant pills stopped working, former Liberal Party director and trade minister Andrew Robb began researching psychedelic therapy as an option to send his depression into remission.

    “In wanting to do it myself, take advantage of it, I have tried to explore what it actually does. And there’s no doubt that it is quite well agreed that it increases the activity in the brain,” Mr Robb told 7.30.

    The irony of a conservative advocating currently illegal “shroom” or ecstasy therapy is not lost on him.

    “I understand that because it had such a bad rap in the 60s, the misuse of these drugs for recreational purposes had a very bad effect,” he said.

    Mr Robb is advocating for “limited amounts [to be] available for the medical profession to use in a controlled medical situation to alleviate mental health diseases”.

    He is the latest prominent Australian to support the move.

    The Therapeutic Goods Administration is currently considering whether to allow psychedelics like magic mushrooms (active ingredient psilocybin) or ecstasy (MDMA) to be used in a psychiatric clinic setting. The College of Psychiatrists is opposed.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-11/andrew-robb-advocates-for-psychedelic-therapy/13230944

  21. mavis
    I have lost the link but it is basically Medadue’s list of times where he reckons that Porter has… wtte… not obeyed the laws he is supposed to be protecting.

  22. Looks like Qantaskeeper is sinking as the day progresses.

    As the Tourist Commission bloke on ABC Radio pulled no punches – Qld and Tas are the two favoured locations. Seriously, I can understand Qld getting lots of international tourists but Tasmania? WTF, they don’t even have planes fly directly in from overseas destinations unlike all the other mainland capitals.

    A number of marginal seats in Qld and Tas to protect. This was all politically like sports rorts etc. Unfortunately, SmoCo has forgotten the rest of the country and only Qantas really benefit, no-one else.

    The sheer incompetence of SmoCo is on full show again and let’s not even start on the vaccine rollout. Reckon we won’t see him for a few days especially with the WA election occurring in Saturday.

  23. Mavis @ #2225 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 7:55 pm

    boerwar:

    Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    [‘Thank you. What about the Menadue list of the Porter malfeasances?’]

    Are you referring to John Menadue, former diplomat and senior public servant? If so, do you have a link? The article under, penned by Waterford, pretty well sums up Porter, but it wouldn’t per se support a move to have him struck off, even his hounding of Collaery, as he’s merely following the law – see Section 39 of the Intelligence Services Act 2001.

    https://johnmenadue.com/is-porter-fit-to-hold-public-office/

    http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/isa2001216/s39.html

    I think the Michael West list of Porter malfeasance is that to which some have alluded.

    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/christian-porter-responsible-for-serial-breaches-of-the-law-now-cries-rule-of-law/

  24. Incredibly, Sportsbet is offering $1.02 on a Labor majority in WA. For anyone cashed up, place $10,000 on the result today, and pocket $200 tax-free on Monday. Far better in just four days than current annual rates on savings accounts.

  25. boerwar:

    Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 8:04 pm

    [‘I have lost the link but it is basically Medadue’s list of times where he reckons that Porter has… wtte… not obeyed the laws he is supposed to be protecting.’]

    Thanks. Porter promotes the rule of law when it suites him. Robodebt and Collaery’s charging are just two examples of where he has shown utter contempt for the common law rules that he claims are so dear to his heart.

  26. Lars

    If Labor does that. Fair comment.

    Consequence will be a large shift of votes to the Greens from progressives who will not vote for the LNP.

  27. Can people who are on less than the average income afford to access JunketKeeper?

    Or is a way of shoveling taxpayer cash to crony capitalists who will then share some of it with the deserving rich?

  28. They say there’s no such as a sure bet but the result on Saturday in WA must come very close to one. My math ain’t that good but a million would I think reap $20,000.

  29. I hope Labor’s plan to remove 40 references to the Gay & Lesbian community is not an attempt to placate the Church. If so, I think that it should be re-thunk.

  30. sprocket
    It shows Robb genuinely had severe depression. I’m very interested in psilocybin being used for mental health problems. Some very famous institutions like Johns Hopkins are doing it in some cases. Full marks to Robb for supporting it.

  31. citizen

    SMH breaking headline:

    “Some people may have to wait until mid-December for their second shot of a COVID-19 vaccine due to local and international supply problems.”

    I could have written that headline for them weeks ago. The change in the AZ inter-dose time made it pretty much inevitable and that was common knowledge for how long?

    What a miserable, useless, ladder climbing twit Brendan Murphy is. Perfect company for Scomo.

    Edit: Scomo might blame and shaft him. That would be justice.

  32. I remember that someone put $200,000 on the ALP on May 17 2019.
    There is no such thing as a sure thing but WAALP must be close

  33. Mavis

    I don’t think Labor are that stupid.
    It would be very embarrassing at Pride times.
    Just look at how business has weighed up the politics.

    They are not stupid and have jumped on board for a reason.
    From Apple to the local run business.

  34. Cud Chewer @ #2246 Thursday, March 11th, 2021 – 5:58 pm

    citizen

    SMH breaking headline:

    “Some people may have to wait until mid-December for their second shot of a COVID-19 vaccine due to local and international supply problems.”

    I could have written that headline for them weeks ago. The change in the AZ inter-dose time made it pretty much inevitable and that was common knowledge for how long?

    What a miserable, useless, ladder climbing twit Brendan Murphy is. Perfect company for Scomo.

    Why would people wait more than the required 12 weeks for their 2nd shot?

    Aren’t both shots meant to be from the same batch?

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