Courtesy of The Australian, the latest Newspoll finds the Coalition sneaking back into a two-party lead of 51-49, after a 50-50 result three weeks ago. The primary votes are Coalition 43% (up two), Labor 34% (down two), Greens 12% (up one) and One Nation 3% (steady). Scott Morrison’s personal ratings are little changed, up one on approval to 65% and down one on disapproval to 31%, while Anthony Albanese is respectively down four to 39% and down one to 40%, and Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is out from 58-29 to 59-27.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a larger-than-usual sample of 2068, which suggests we will be seeing state breakdowns in the coming days showing leadership and COVID-19 performance ratings for the state governments and Premiers.
Player One @ #199 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 9:33 am
Retreating to your book of knowledge.
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #199 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:34 am
Perhaps they were just asked to demonstrate they actually had one?
Taylormade,
So you believe that contact tracers would get accurate info if they were given fines based on the info they provided?
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #201 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:36 am
How about “If the shoe fits …”?
lizzie says:
Monday, September 21, 2020 at 9:06 am
Victoria
The more detail that is revealed about the hotel quarantine ‘debacle’, the more I understand that Dan Andrews is being very brave in saying he will take responsibility, because it was not an error of his that started everything off. Witness the Health bureaucrat refusing his (I think rational) suggestion that the travellers should be housed near the airport, not in the CBD.
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Lizzie
I heard that and its not believable because if premier through premier and cabinet orders something to be done then no public servant will veto the premier. Independent agencies operate differently but even there they will follow the government’s policy direction.
Player One @ #205 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 9:40 am
Unsubstantiated assertions!
Pretty much what I’d expect from you.
Mexican
The officer subsequently lost her position so maybe there’s more detail than media told us.
Lizzie
Yes she has been and while we cannot be fully certain but her approach seems to be at odds with what was needed.
Bh @ #197 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:33 am
Nothing remarkable about the technology, I was referring to the public dissemination of the detailed information. I think Shellbell was as well.
Spray
Thanks. I took the wrong angle on it.
Blame it on Mondayitis not senility
A NYT doco maker reflects on his time in Australia and the US situation.
………………………………………………………………
TIMES INSIDER
What I Saw When Australia Burned
……………That was in January. As a producer/director for the documentary TV series “The New York Times Presents,” I spent about two weeks on the continent with my crew, recording the experiences of survivors.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/18/insider/new-york-times-presents-wildfires.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Reader%20Center
Monday morning I had a glossy colour brochure entitled “Truth about Covid 19” stuffed in my mail box…..it alleges that the Chinese government deliberately created the covid19 virus in Wuhan and then allowed it to be spread around the world…..one of the promoters of the brochure is listed as (Steve) Bannon WaRoom (ex-Trump ultra conservative etc). The other sponsors are unknown to me….one entitled Himalaya Australia and also three groups only identified by Chinese letters and obscure logos. Just wondering how widespread this scare mongering, xenophobic material is being circulated in Australia and is it being done courtesy of Australia Post???
Robert @ #213 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 10:21 am
Yep, it would be a costly exercise, so they must be pretty cashed up.
Feeling the social media ban.
Did it come with your regular mail or was it separate?
Robert, I wonder if it’s related to the Epoch Times, which seems to be increasingly visible these days? It’s a Falun Gong organ. Pro-Trump, far Right, blames every world misery on the CCP.
Could do without it IMHO.
One for Rakali
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On this day
In 1745 George II’s troops were defeated by Bonnie Prince Charlie’s Highlanders at the Battle of Prestonpans, at East Lothian, Scotland;
Gee Ruston sounds super confident in this media conference. Not.
Is this a reannouncement or are these income support measures
something that was cobbled together last night?
frednk @ #144 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 10:19 am
What an obnoxious individual Player One is. ‘Labor gibbons’, who, it seems, Player One is too gutless to identify specifically to Barney, except for Joel Fitzgibbon (and lol to the play on his surname. Not). Mainly because Player One traffics in baseless snide assertions and assumptions.
Mr Bowe was right. As usual. And it’s pretty sad that Player One keeps coming back nevertheless. Probably because they have no friends in the real world either.
Spray @ #214 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 12:29 pm
Actually there’s an idea. Is the fugitive Chinese billionaire who Steve Bannon was living with on his super yacht and leaching off, associated with or funding Falun Gong?
Also, isn’t it the case that most people throw mailbox bumpf directly in the recycling bin? I know I do. If I haven’t requested it I’m not interested in it. If I want to access a service I don’t look in the mailbox, I go online, read reviews and choose the most highly recommended. Not some guy who drops a leaflet in the letterbox. And I’m certainly not interested in eating more pizza, even if it is cheaper this week from Dominos. 🙂
I’ve seen the Epoch Times over a number of years at little display stands in places like shopping centres. Originally it seemed a reasonable source of articles, although with an anti CCP bias because it is produced by Falun Gong. However more recently it has taken on a strong pro-Trump flavour and the Australian edition is very pro-LNP. According to Wikipedia and an ABC (US) article, Falun Gong is heavily involved now in the conspiracy theory movement and this is where their China/coronavirus claims fit.
It would be interesting to know whether people like Gladys Liu have any connection with this mob.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/verify-unsolicited-paper-spreads-outlandish-covid-claims/103-9290495e-a501-44fa-b7df-0bb0e385328b
So the decision finally comes down to what’s in the best interests of the job service provider.
The Guardian blog
“Victoria’s most senior public servant says he is unaware how it was decided to use private security in Melbourne’s troubled hotel quarantine program.
Department of Premier and Cabinet secretary Chris Eccles appeared before the hotel inquiry today”
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Piss poor effort from our top public servant. He should know this. If he doesn’t then he is not doing the job he is paid to do.
We need a massive clean out once this is over.
Shellbell @ #181 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:19 am
Its all from his taxi booking log. All automatic. The control system ‘knows’ where every cab is while they are available for booking, so that it can allocate bookings as they are made, and keeps a complete record of all GPS coordinates at every pickup and delivery.
Taylormade @ #221 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:31 am
If he wasn’t part of the decision making process, why should he?
Taylormade
Boy you guys are really putting a lot of effort into looking stupid.. It turns out it wasn’t Melbourne private security guard, guests and nooky. But in Sydney it was an ADF person that had to be referred to police for such activities.
Barney
He is the head of Premier and Cabinet so he should know because he is the link between cabinet and the public servants.
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #220 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 1:31 pm
I hate the way this is operating in some areas.
I have a friend in NW Tassie. 63 year old widow. Does not drive. Lives at present on her own and there is no public transport to the nearest larger town.
She had been volunteering but moved late last year and basically Covid closed her volunteer options in the new location. She was almost ready to start with one and waiting on a Govt permit for another.
She is currently being made to apply for 4 jobs, which is difficult given her location and lack of driver’s licence. She is very reluctant to apply for anything that that she could not reasonably undertake, but is finding more and more jobs require a drivers licence for no obvious reason. All this for the pittance the Govt gives out.
Mexicanbeemer @ #225 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:40 am
The only relevant information for him is, what they decided to do.
Anything additional is superfluous and irrelevant.
So Ruston trusts the JSproviders to act in the interest of the client? How novel!
Barney
That would require him to know who was making the decision and what they were basing that decision on.
Mexicanbeemer; the micro manager.
Mexicanbeemer; the micro manager.
Mexicanbeemer @ #229 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:47 am
Really?
It has been decided to use private security for the quarantine hotels.
frednk
LOL Premier and Cabinet have been known to be like that.
Barney
If the Premier has indicated he wants them quarantined nearer the airport and the decision has been made to do it in the CBD then yes he should want to know more.
Mexicanbeemer @ #232 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 11:54 am
The question related to security guards, not the location of the quarantine hotels.
In a statement, Mr Eccles said he did not have a copy of Mr Ashton’s text on his phone, adding: “I do not now recall what, if anything, I did in response to that text message”.
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Look out we have another ‘I do not recall’.
It is not that bloody hard, i can easily recall work conversations from 6 months ago.
Barney
Yes and the whole project needed to be headed by someone and that someone should be known to Premier and Cabinet so that the department can incorporate that someone’s advice and actions into cabinet briefings so cabinet can make informed decisions which then get transmitted back to the someone.
C@tmomma @ #217 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 1:20 pm
I don’t need to identify the gibbons. You identify yourselves almost every time you post on the topic of global warming. Or the Greens. Or (more often than not) both.
Another identifying characteristic seems to be just how nasty many of you are.
Especially you, C@t.
Everyone’s fav unmolested by Andrew Street
https://au.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/jordan-shanks-friendly-game-17138/
Mexicanbeemer @ #235 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 12:03 pm
When you only have a weekend to set it up. 😆 😆
Yabba @ #222 Monday, September 21st, 2020 – 1:36 pm
Yabba,
As posted earlier, I think the original comment was more about the fact that so much detail was being shared publicly, not that there was any great miracle in being able to obtain it.
Although what was it that Arthur C Clarke said? Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic!
Barney
The Department of Premier and Cabinet is the lead department.
lizzie
It’s poor wording – 13 people fined for leaving home without a mask, and 6 weren’t wearing them at vehicle checkpoints.
In other words, you put your mask on when you come to the checkpoint.
(At the Vic/NSW border, this instruction appears on a flashing sign…)
Is buce about these days…….
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ICYMI: for anyone still touting the “Sweden model”.
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laughtong
My son was penalised because he applied for a job an hour away.
When he was asked why, he was told that he’d indicated on his form that he didn’t own a car (despite saying on the same form he had access to one).
The reasoning was that he shouldn’t apply for jobs he couldn’t get to.
His response was that, as he lived 15 k from the nearest town, that he couldn’t apply for any jobs at all…
zoomster
Thanks. I have assumed that if a policeman came to the car, I’d put my mask on before opening the window. Perhaps those fined didn’t even have masks to hand.
I’ve been thinking that for a long while about the USA in particular
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I wrote about the death of RBG, the fires, the police brutality, the coming environmental apocalypse and the “president” in
@thedailybeast
Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Death Clinches It: We’re Living in a Dystopia
We keeping saying it can’t get worse. Now I just wonder, “What’s next?”
thedailybeast.com
I suspect Freckles is not in step with public opinion, who want things opened up – safely.
“Queensland’s chief health officer wants to run an AFL grand final test run – but the LNP opposition is not happy:
200 AFL fans have volunteered to act as guinea pigs and sit in close quarters during the Collingwood-Port Adelaide game at the Gabba on Monday night.
“Tonight, stadiums have agreed to trial increasing the density for a small number of people a the Gabba stadium,” chief health officer Jeannette Young said.
Currently, stadiums are at 50 per cent but the plan is to increase capacity to 75 per cent, or 30,000 people, for the grand final on October 24.
“To suddenly go and increase from 50 per cent to 75 per cent without trialling all those processes doesn’t make sense,” Dr Young said.
She was not concerned about the risk of infection as outdoor areas were “much, much safer” than indoor venues.
But Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington accused the state government of putting the interests of AFL players over the health of ordinary Queenslanders.
“It is staggering double standards when people can’t have more than 10 people in their home but (Premier) Annastacia Palaszczuk wants to trial jamming people into a footy stadium,” she said.
(via AAP)
Vic,
Buce packed the shits and disappeared when WB told him off.
Not sure if it is permanent.
Cheers.
GG
I wasnt sure if he had departed stage left.
Buce was spruiking the Swedish model at every opportunity.
Most of us knew it was crap.
Another way of looking at Premier and Cabinet is it acts as the premier’s eyes and ears.