More affairs of state

More evidence of a tight contest looming in Queensland while Mark McGowan reigns supreme in Western Australia; and a parliamentary committee in Victoria kicks the upper house electoral reform can down the road.

Not every state this time, but half:

Victoria

The Victorian parliament’s electoral matters committee has tabled the report of its inquiry into the 2018 state election, of which the greatest item of interest is a full chapter devoted to reform of the upper house electoral system. Together with Western Australia, Victoria is the last hold-out of the group voting ticket system that is electing ever-increasing numbers of preference-harvesting micro-party candidates. This reached a new height at the 2018 election, at which parties other than the Coalition, Labor and the Greens won 10 out of the 40 seats in the Legislative Council, including two elected with less than 1% of the vote. However, the report recommended only that a further parliamentary inquiry be held into the matter. The report also recommends no change to the two-week period for pre-polling, which the Liberals and Nationals called to be shortened.

Queensland

Polling of the marginal state seats of Currumbin, Mansfield and Aspley by YouGov for the Australian Conservation Foundation shows a combined two-party result of 52-48 for Labor, compared with an almost exact 50-50 for these three seats in 2017. The primary votes are Labor 37%, LNP 37%, Greens 10%, One Nation 4% and 10% don’t know, compared with 2017 election results of Labor 41.2%, LNP 38.4%, Greens 10.6% and One Nation 8.5%. The poll was conducted from August 17-19 and targeted 200 respondents in each of the three electorates.

Western Australia

A poll for The West Australian by Painted Dog Research showed Mark McGowan with an approval rating at 91%, up four from an already stratospheric result in June. Support for the state’s border closure was at 92%, up from 89% in May. The poll was conducted from a sample of 837, with field work dates not provided.

Northern Territory

As related in the dedicated post, the CLP sneaked home in an eighth seat in the Northern Territory election as the count concluded last night, producing a final result of Labor 14, CLP eight, Territory Alliance one and independents two.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. lizzie @ #1145 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 1:22 pm

    Griff

    You raise the point: would Morrison prefer that the virus is not defeated? Would it be to his political advantage?

    well, the virus is giving him plenty of cover to
    * disguise / deny the underlying structural economic problems that were tanking the economy before the pandemic
    * increase secrecy of govt
    * rush through legislation with look-over-here- its-a virus distractions
    * bash anti-labor states
    * molly coddle liberal states
    *
    *

    lots of blanks

  2. At this stage Morrison is running an opposition campaign against the Premiers. In so doing, it may influence enough voters that it is the Premiers that have instituted all the ‘unecessary’ hardships

  3. lizzie says:
    Monday, September 7, 2020 at 1:22 pm
    Griff

    You raise the point: would Morrison prefer that the virus is not defeated? Would it be to his political advantage?

    This is the way people like Morrison operate. He needs a looming threat (or public perception of a threat) so that he can proclaim himself as the country’s saviour.

    It worked with Islamic terrorism, boat people and now possibly with China, so why not a horrible virus?

  4. There are other cases more local to me that weren’t in the media as well, including where the store manager didn’t tell staff about a case.

  5. It is a crushing blow to Australia that Morrison showing his hypocrisy by not keeping Australia ‘s International borders open for business.

  6. A Prime Minister running an opposition campaign against a Premier going to election of a different party is standard political practice.

    Morrison instead is running a campaign against Victoria’s Premier.
    Queenslanders will back their choice if they do choose Palaszczuk

  7. Samantha Maiden
    @samanthamaiden
    ·
    7m
    PM will stilll slash JobKeeper despite extension of lockdown banning Victorians from working

  8. Another sign Morrison is conceding the Queensland election.

    Openly talking cutting JobKeeper and Jobseeker.
    Those cuts apply in Queensland too.

  9. Rex Douglas

    I certainly wont. Morrison has always felt like a NSW premier rather than a PM of the nation.
    And this was before the pandemic.

  10. Griff

    “At this stage Morrison is running an opposition campaign against the Premiers. In so doing, it may influence enough voters that it is the Premiers that have instituted all the ‘unnecessary’ hardships

    At some point the premiers have to say that the national cabinet is no longer any such thing, and the only reason they turn up is that they are reliant on a continued federal cash flow to fund all the State-delivered services that are stretched by Covid. They may not be able to control the game, but they can call it out.

    Scott

    “If there are vaccines out in January or february 2021

    Could the Federal election follow within 6 months(?)”

    It will probably take 12 months to manufacture, distribute and administer enough vaccine for the whole country. We barely immunise half the country in six months in flue seasons, and some communities will require a lot of effort to immunise vs Covid, thanks to all the dis-information.

  11. Rex Douglas

    I gave Morrison and co the benefit of the doubt when pandemic hit. But I should have maintained the adage.

    When they show you who they are the first time, believe them.

  12. The rate of women and children fleeing domestic violence during the pandemic is rising and has yet to reach its peak, crisis and homelessness service providers say.

    Operators are frustrated by delays to a federal government domestic violence grants program when welfare payments are also being cut back.

    SafeSteps chief executive Rita Butera said the money was urgently needed.

    “It is worrying that it’s taking so long and nobody seems to understand why,” she said.

    “What has happened a lot overseas, and also our own experience with bushfires and emergency response, there is an increase (in domestic violence) usually in the recovery stage.”

    Applications for the $60 million Safe Places Emergency Accommodation fund closed in February after a deadline was pushed back due to the summer bushfires.

    Money was expected to start flowing in July, but service providers say they haven’t heard from the Commonwealth since applying.

    https://www.afr.com/politics/domestic-violence-yet-to-peak-as-funding-fails-to-show-20200907-p55t1m

  13. Ya THINK???

    Kevin Ledley received a fine for having his car registration expire, a trap tens of thousands of people fall into each year.

    The NSW government is raking in more than $40 million a year in fines from tens of thousands of people found to be driving unregistered vehicles.

    Scrapping car rego stickers saved the state government $575,000 in printing costs in 2013 and was sold to drivers as “making life easier”.

    But it also added millions in fines with 50,000 or more drivers busted in unregistered vehicles coughing up more than $250 million since 2013.

    At the end of 2010, about 34,000 people were fined $17.4 million for driving unregistered. In 2013, almost 59,000 drivers were fined $35.5 million.

    In 2009 NSW Police began rolling out automated number plate recognition technology on highway patrol cars that could ping dozens of unregistered vehicles.

    Driving unregistered voids any insurance leaving a driver exposed to large risks if they are involved in an accident. It carries a hefty $686 fine in NSW.

    smh.com.au/national/nsw/scrapping-car-rego-stickers-helps-nsw-rake-in-millions-in-revenue-20200729-p55gj1.html

    It was so obvious this was what they were doing. Her Indoors – a stickler for such things, and the very model of punctuality – was driving her car around last month for a week, unintentionally unregistered.

    Just lucky she avoided the regular speed and drink driving traps they put up at the southern edge of Forster, in a byzantine set of variable speed limits, school zones and large inviting kerbed areas where dozens of cars can be pulled over at a time and put through the wringer.

    They send you the renewal over a month in advance. No rush. No stress. That’s another 5 weeks you’ve got. Plenty of time to stuff the notice in a drawer, under a mat or wherever else you prefer, and then completely forget about it until the wallopers wave their paddle pops at you.

  14. I have just read through the ABC reporting on the press conferences. The point I found interesting, because I have experienced it is about consultation.

    There seems to be a problem with how people define consultation. In my case I was employed to assist a facility that had had major management/ staff issues and the board wanted a manger who would be consultative. So we did heaps of anonymous surveys, workshopping, individual career/ job reviews to lock in a path forward. End result when the next lot of staff surveys were done was still a marked level of staff who felt there had been no consultation. Drilling down into that result showed that for a cohort of people consultation only occurred when they got what they wanted.

    This seems to be what’s happening in Victoria, the meetings are happening with business but if you want the government to reopen your industry and they won’t, you claim no consultation. The alternative for these groups would be to acknowledge that they are a risk factor which would defeat their attempts to be allowed to open up and risk people’s lives.

    I think Andrews is an excellent politician and has shown great strength as a leader, but if he was a CEO the company would be looking to replace him when the crisis is over. Victoria Labor will be forever tarred by the events of this crisis and new blood will be required as a reset. Unfair I know but for the greater good.

  15. Because I'm a bit preoccupied today I only caught bits of that press conference: is the PM continuing to ignore questions on sports grants? And is @Paul_Karp the only reporter asking them? #auspol— Katharine Murphy (@murpharoo) September 7, 2020

    Yes to both. The PM said he wanted to concentrate on the health of Victorians. https://t.co/76C65WZTqA— Barrie Cassidy (@barriecassidy) September 7, 2020

    Slashing many Victorians financial lifeline is harming their health.

  16. Assantdj

    Vic state election is not due until November 2022.
    By then lots will have happened.
    From what Andrews has said in past, he never intended putting his hand up for re election at next election.
    He is purely focused on doing the best for Victorian people.

  17. They send you the renewal over a month in advance. No rush. No stress. That’s another 5 weeks you’ve got. Plenty of time to stuff the notice in a drawer, under a mat or wherever else you prefer, and then completely forget about it until the wallopers wave their paddle pops at you.

    It wouldnt be a biggie except it is a HUGE fine. Especially if your insurance has also run out.

    You can organise autopayments or pay through your online bank account with the date of payment set for the day of renewal. So the money stays in your account earning you 0.0001% (or saving you if offset on a mortgage) right up to the day it is due.

  18. Assantdj @ #1163 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 1:58 pm

    I have just read through the ABC reporting on the press conferences. The point I found interesting, because I have experienced it is about consultation.

    There seems to be a problem with how people define consultation. In my case I was employed to assist a facility that had had major management/ staff issues and the board wanted a manger who would be consultative. So we did heaps of anonymous surveys, workshopping, individual career/ job reviews to lock in a path forward. End result when the next lot of staff surveys were done was still a marked level of staff who felt there had been no consultation. Drilling down into that result showed that for a cohort of people consultation only occurred when they got what they wanted.

    This seems to be what’s happening in Victoria, the meetings are happening with business but if you want the government to reopen your industry and they won’t, you claim no consultation. The alternative for these groups would be to acknowledge that they are a risk factor which would defeat their attempts to be allowed to open up and risk people’s lives.

    I think Andrews is an excellent politician and has shown great strength as a leader, but if he was a CEO the company would be looking to replace him when the crisis is over. Victoria Labor will be forever tarred by the events of this crisis and new blood will be required as a reset. Unfair I know but for the greater good.

    The problem Andrews now has is more people are succumbing to emotional stress and irrational thinking.

  19. Assantdj

    Drilling down into that result showed that for a cohort of people consultation only occurred when they got what they wanted.

    I think Andrews made that point when Rachel (?) accused him of not consulting.

    I’m unhappy with your other point about replacing Andrews but you are probably correct. OTOH he will probably be exhausted.

  20. It’s not only the deaths.

    Dr Annie ODyne
    @AnnieOdyne
    · 6h

    Australian epidemiologist working in Sweden tweeted “wish I was back in Melb” we have 100,000 post covid patients on extended sick leave coping with the ongoing symptoms

  21. Assantdj @ #1173 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 1:58 pm

    I think Andrews is an excellent politician and has shown great strength as a leader, but if he was a CEO the company would be looking to replace him when the crisis is over. Victoria Labor will be forever tarred by the events of this crisis and new blood will be required as a reset. Unfair I know but for the greater good.

    C Lewis in Crikey ($) saying similar:

    Despite a largely understanding electorate, Ralph said: “Politically I suspect he’s toast. He’s the messenger, and likely to get shot. Even Churchill was tossed out of office after the war, because people wanted to forget and move on.”

    (Ralph being veteran political strategist Toby Ralph)

  22. Australian epidemiologist working in Sweden tweeted “wish I was back in Melb” we have 100,000 post covid patients on extended sick leave coping with the ongoing symptoms

    Sick shmick. There is a game to be won.

  23. “Australian epidemiologist working in Sweden tweeted “wish I was back in Melb” we have 100,000 post covid patients on extended sick leave coping with the ongoing symptoms”

    Hmm….that can’t be right. Professor Bucephalus assured us that there was a 99% recovery rate from Covid-19, and that we should all just “get on with life”.

  24. I am over the Prime Minister repeatedly lauding NSW contract tracing and having a go at Victoria. He got his wish and the ADF sent in people,to help with the logistics and management of the Victorian contract tracing weeks ago.

    The big difference that the reporters should be aware of and raising with him is the difference in contract tracing someone with a known contact compared to a mystery case. It is not impossible in my mind that many cases spread through retail outlets but without an effective contract tracing app it would be near impossible to trace all contacts. I also,wonder if at times it is possible that someone is assigned to a known cluster when that link is established when they may actually have been infected in the previous day’s by an unknown source. This would result in a less than accurate picture of spread especially if it occurred in a shop or on public transport.

    Another point not acknowledged by the retailers is that lots of shoppers access areas in the inner regions by public transport. I take the car to the grocery shop but use public transport to go into the city for general retail. Opening up would increase transport use and therefore spread.

    My question is how do so many people get to such high level positions in business without having any common sense or intelligence.

  25. There is no evidence whatsoever that Andrews has been tainted.

    His personal ratings skyrocketed in the early days of the pandemic, and have come down since, but they’re still at levels most pollies would sell their souls for.

    All the polls we’ve seen, many conducted by organisations hostile to Victorian Labor and to Andrews personally, have shown that the vast majority of Victorians support his actions.

    The media may hate him, and may be conspiring against him, as might be the Federal Liberal party….but what’s new? He’s won two elections under those conditions.

    A lot can happen in two years – including people forgetting why they’re angry with Andrews now – and no election is ever in the bag this far out, but the idea that Andrews needs to be replaced because he is ‘tainted’ is absurd.

  26. My understanding is that insurance is void if
    Vehicle unregistered
    Driver unlicensed
    Driver over legal blood alcohol limit

    I had the opposite problem, rego is due, not at home, VicRoads doesn’t permit mail redirections but fortunately you can now pay online once the rego papers are raised about 3 weeks before rego due. Done!

  27. Earlier I heard Gregory Hunt tell us he was giving ‘real hope for Victorians….and all Australians’.
    What a contemptible little weasel he is.

  28. To be fair, Uhlmann did ask a question trying to find out exactly what Morrison meant when comparing the contract tracing of the two states. And Morrihunt had to admit that Victoria is investing heavily in it and getting help from the ADF and other states. Which begs the question…. what was that presser all about?

  29. …a quick glance at ‘why did Churchill lose’ suggests that it was because, with the end of the war, he lost a sense of purpose and had no clear vision for the way forward, rather than that people saw him as a constant reminder of darker days.

  30. Zoomster
    Would add the federal election will be held before the next state poll and if the Liberal Party MP’s behavior is a guide then I’m suspecting their polling doesn’t has them gaining because of Andrews.

  31. Rex Douglas @ #1178 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 2:05 pm

    Assantdj @ #1163 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 1:58 pm

    I have just read through the ABC reporting on the press conferences. The point I found interesting, because I have experienced it is about consultation.

    There seems to be a problem with how people define consultation. In my case I was employed to assist a facility that had had major management/ staff issues and the board wanted a manger who would be consultative. So we did heaps of anonymous surveys, workshopping, individual career/ job reviews to lock in a path forward. End result when the next lot of staff surveys were done was still a marked level of staff who felt there had been no consultation. Drilling down into that result showed that for a cohort of people consultation only occurred when they got what they wanted.

    This seems to be what’s happening in Victoria, the meetings are happening with business but if you want the government to reopen your industry and they won’t, you claim no consultation. The alternative for these groups would be to acknowledge that they are a risk factor which would defeat their attempts to be allowed to open up and risk people’s lives.

    I think Andrews is an excellent politician and has shown great strength as a leader, but if he was a CEO the company would be looking to replace him when the crisis is over. Victoria Labor will be forever tarred by the events of this crisis and new blood will be required as a reset. Unfair I know but for the greater good.

    The problem Andrews now has is more people are succumbing to emotional stress and irrational thinking.

    Especially since the Prime minister is telling them they’re being ‘crushed’

  32. My understanding is that insurance is void if
    Vehicle unregistered

    In SA you get a months grace iirc. So if you get pinged unreg vehicle, it hurts a lot, if you get pinged with a vehicle unreg for more than a month…. you need to sell your house.

  33. zoomster @ #1186 Monday, September 7th, 2020 – 2:19 pm

    …a quick glance at ‘why did Churchill lose’ suggests that it was because, with the end of the war, he lost a sense of purpose and had no clear vision for the way forward, rather than that people saw him as a constant reminder of darker days.

    ‘he lost a sense of purpose and had no clear vision for the way forward’
    Scrooter’s going through that stage early then.

  34. Yes, Victoria doesn’t send a paper reminder, but an email, which comes 30 days before. Easy to forget about, they don’t send another reminder (every other organisation on the planet gives you one of those a few days beforehand…) and the first thing you know about it is when you get an overdue notice a week later (or get stopped by the police…)

  35. Assantdj,

    The other crucial point is that contact tracing becomes exponentially more difficult as case numbers rise. Think someone said it was effectively impossible (without lockdowns) if you had more than about fifty new cases of community transmission per day.

    So whilst something obviously went wrong at the start of the second wave in Melbourne, we won’t be able to judge how effective their current contact tracing protocols are until they get down to the sort of numbers NSW has been dealing with for the last few months. Hopefully that will be fairly soon.

  36. Victoria
    I was aware people believe he was not going to resit and given the year he’s had it would be very understandable. I hope he’s looking after his mental health because the level of stress he has been under for such a long time is dangerous.
    I also hope, if as a parting shot he reveals how national cabinet really worked, and what carrots and sticks the Prime Minister weilded to try and get his own way and be seen as the saviour of the country. Although I think he is probably too principled to do that.

  37. Zoomster

    I was actually surprised with the last election result. They threw everything at Andrews.
    The CFA dispute and the red shirts was replayed over and over again on the front pages of the Herald Sun. This includes the sky rail grass roots campaign.

    Labor ended up winning in a landslide.

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