As reported by The Guardian, this week’s Essential Research survey focuses on black lives matter protests, union power and the government’s coronavirus policies, producing a mixed bag of results on each:
• Sixty-two per cent felt protesters were “justified in their demands for authorities to address the issue of Indigenous deaths in custody”, but 61% felt “the situation in America is very different to Australia and has no relevance”, and 84% felt protests amid the pandemic put the community at risk.
• Sixty per cent rated unions as very important or quite important for working people, and 74% felt they provided essential services, but 62% thought them too politically biased and 58% agreed that “union protection makes it difficult for employers to discipline, terminate or even promote employees”.
• Sixty-four per cent expressed concern about how the withdrawal of Jobkeeper subsidies “would sit with any second wave of the pandemic”, 53% considered the government had broken a promise by withdrawing payments for childcare workers, 55% thought it too soon to remove support and 43% supported extending free childcare (up seven points on a month ago), but 57% thought the government needed to withdraw help from “some industries”.
The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1087; a full report will be published later today.
UPDATE: Full report here.
BREAKING NEWS
Bill Shorten still resting at home as he recovers from shock at Victorian branch stacking.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRojjjYy0XMlHtRJl4d0JqH8yF4m6rJXHwVHT4aXRrb5hm5c_DN&usqp=CAU
STEM – I’m one, my wife is one. I wouldn’t particularly recommend my kids go into it.
Countries that have made the most of large numbers of STEM grads haven’t done so because they produce lots of graduates. That’s part of the equation, but a fairly minor one. Much more important is ensuring that there are careers for them to go into.
The idea that we need more graduates in STEM fields, without actual work for them, is nuts.
From when I taught at uni, if the jobs are there, then the student numbers will follow.
billie @ #1837 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 4:44 pm
Overweight, middle-waged white men are overrepresented in government, true or false?
Is that three or four times that nath has tried to troll the blog about Shorten?
Big fail, stale effort, nath.
nath @ #1851 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:06 pm
Karma is a bitch, nath. She can sometimes encrypt your stupid little images that accompany your lamo stunts.
As a general fan of Nath’s work, it seems to me that he is sadly out of form. Not his best effort.
The Monash Uni Vice Chancellor says . .
Margaret Gardner@GardmarM 8h
While some students will face increases and others decreases, overall the Govt reduces its contribution to degrees from 58% to 48% and student contributions will go from 42% to 52%. This is how more student places are funded without increasing govt funding @uniaus @GroupofEight
sorry spray, I’m feeling a certain amount of ennui at the moment. Perhaps I have been too influenced by repetitives like BW and Briefly. Hopefully I will soon regain my joie de vivre and deliver some top notch material to all my homies.
Is that a “spray”, Spray?
Has the US been ruled out as a cyber attack suspect ..?
Blobbit @ #1766 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 2:26 pm
These changes are may not be designed to attract Australian students.
Cripes. Panic stations.
Channel 10 News. All of our institutions are under serious and increasing cyber attack. No names mentioned – London to brick it’s China – linked to the trade war and that and everything.
The report was essentially incoherent.
Be alarmed. Hide under your duna.
Goodnight all. 💤💤
nath @ #1858 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:14 pm
You flatter yourself by speaking of a plurality, nath. 🙂
Pegasus @ #1829 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 4:35 pm
Is it unreasonable to think branch stacking in NSW is being covered up ..?
KayJay @ #1855 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:17 pm
I smell a different foreign rat…
C@t, I’ll have you know I have a good fan base here on PB. So much so that WB is wary of attracting my wrath. I’ll have everyone know that after he called me a douchebag I won’t be doing any further research projects with him, that’s for sure. He just lost any possibility of a DECRA. So there.
Other commentators have pointed this out, too. Students start streaming for their career choice quite early.
So what process will the ALP National Executive use to determine preselections in Victoria for upcoming elections ..?
Blob it: ‘From when I taught at uni, if the jobs are there, then the student numbers will follow.’
Even when the jobs aren’t there, they follow. Just the promise of maybe eventually getting a ‘nice’ job is enough incentive.
Meanwhile, Australia relies on close to a million people from overseas to do the low paid/status jobs, while 700,000 Australians are unemployed with many more underemployed or withdrawn from the labour market.
Nath,
Keep going. By the fourth time, the joke was actually funny.
OTOH, having now read the Byrne texts, I am feeling a bit sorry for Somyurek. Byrne is a stone cold asshole and a vicious individual. He goes well beyond factional invective – which is usually just ‘I hate X, he/she is a complete fucking moron’ – to a much darker place.
Please, can anyone help me, I’m thinking of joining a Victorian ALP branch, but I need to know what the new National Exec preselection process will be …? …anyone …??
Historyintime @ #1863 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:36 pm
Hastie and Dutton apparently think he’s tops though…
Historyintime @ #1865 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:36 pm
Why is that an acceptable standard within a political party?
nath @ #1866 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:23 pm
Your real name doesn’t start with Walter and end with Mitty, does it? 😀
I figured out how a lot of people get into politics:
Well, this will break a few hearts.
https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6165195004001
PB “Even when the jobs aren’t there, they follow. Just the promise of maybe eventually getting a ‘nice’ job is enough incentive.”
To an extent. Our numbers in engineering definitely increased when the job market was busy and dropped alot when the cyclical redundencies hit.
The big problem there was generally kids enroll the most at the peak of the employment cycle. By the time they graduate it’s usually at the bottom of the cycle.
(Think I’m on my third engineering recession now)
I’m starting to worry about Cud Chewer. He’s not here commenting and the numbers of COVID-19 cases in the US are trending upwards and there’s a new outbreak in China!
We’re getting worked up about sweary texts? FFS.
“C@tmommasays:
Friday, June 19, 2020 at 6:02 pm
I’m starting to worry about Cud Chewer.”
Hopefully he’s taking a sanity break. Long enough here will do anyone’s head in.
Blobbit @ #1879 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 6:03 pm
I know, right? What next hem measurements on the skirts of women and expulsion from parliament for the men if their tie isn’t on straight!?!
Blobbit @ #1880 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 6:04 pm
You’ll have to substitute as expert commentator then. 🙂
Twitter’s feeling it’s oats:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/06/18/trump-tweet-label-video/
“You’ll have to substitute as expert commentator then.”
Feck no. I’ve only just been able to return here before it gives me the shuts again.
(See what I did)
Here’s a thought – economies with successful STEM(1) programs don’t just churn out graduates, but put in place a whole economic system to use those skills.
The US and China being two great examples. Even if a substantial part of the US work-for-your-STEM-degree program is military based.
(1) I hate the STEM moniker, though slightly less than STEAM
a r says:
Friday, June 19, 2020 at 5:43 pm
Historyintime @ #1865 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 5:36 pm
He goes well beyond factional invective – which is usually just ‘I hate X, he/she is a complete fucking moron’ –
Why is that an acceptable standard within a political party?
I’m sorry but i have seen worse on pollbludger.
Saw that GIF .
I will never get rat-arsed again.
If, next time I need to do what needs to be done and I think about it.
It’s your fault. 🙂
Contemplation is fine. Fear is not.
Bill @ #1887 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 6:16 pm
Won’t you get rat-arsed if you sit on the toilet seat and that happens!?! 😆
frednk @ #1879 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 6:16 pm
PB isn’t a political party…or is it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting
(I kinda feel like I’ve needed to link to that information a little too often for a psephological blog…)
“PB isn’t a political party…or is it?”
Does it matter? It’s a text between people. If someone was using that language in a workplace, or in a text toward someone to abuse them, that’s a different thing.
But a text between adults commenting on another person – shrug.
Is it too early to pinpoint Somyurek and/or Byrne as the source of the fabricated quote regarding colostomy bags that was employed to smear Andrews in the lead-up to the last state election?
Rex Douglas @ #1864 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 3:20 pm
Well considering this came from an internal report, yes.
lizzie @ #1867 Friday, June 19th, 2020 – 3:25 pm
Well, I was at Uni when it came in, so half was free, half was HECS.
Morrison and Tehan: Nanny State Gone Mad!
I agree that we need more Engineers than Lawyers. I hold teachers and nurses in higher regard than tax accountants. While a bit of a Maths and Science person myself, it is clear that lots of talented and creative people do not have the interest or aptitude to study these subjects.
I agree with the principle of providing incentives for prospective students to choose Stem subjects and other areas of study where there is a shortage of qualified workers. The same goes for apprenticeships and vocational studies. However, penalising the humanities students, which is what the Government is planning to do, is grossly unfair. I can’t help that feel that this latter is a bit of social engineering.
“Barney in Tanjung Bungasays:
Friday, June 19, 2020 at 6:41 pm
Well, I was at Uni when it came in, so half was free, half was HECS.”
And that was pretty unfair as well.
Here’s a thought – grads to pay 0.5% extra tax on brackets > the lowest. Say up to a threshold of 50k (indexed). That would be progressive, not favour particular fields but also not disadvantage those who don’t get a “graduate” job.
It would have to be on income before deductions though.
I thought btw, that conservatives didn’t like to pick winners…
in breaking news, The Lucky Country survives again.
https://chaser.com.au/national/cyber-attack-thwarted-by-nbn-outage/
Perhaps I should explain my rationale for assisting our two daughters to pay their HECS upfront, even if it is not the most rational thing to do.
I grew up in a “working poor” household where every penny/cent counted. My father would give us pocket money and my mother would reclaim some of it to buy essentials prior to payday. Going into debt was not something we did (to my knowledge) and we were too proud to even think of asking for any assistance. Hence my lifelong obsession with stubbornly “never accepting charity”.
When our daughters were small and we were living on one income, money was very tight but we managed due to my wife’s amazing ability to make things like clothes and good meals out of cheaper ingredients. As time went on our financial position improved and today we are without financial stress.
However I was determined to help our daughters avoid HECS debts and helped them pay upfront, with a 20% discount (I think) at the time. They both did well at Uni and have good jobs but still feel the financial pressures of everyday life.
Perhaps avoiding HECS debts was not the most rational decision but I and they are happy to not have another financial burden to deal with.
“Steve777says:
Friday, June 19, 2020 at 6:44 pm
I agree that we need more Engineers than Lawyers”
Why? If we really did, us STEM people would be getting paid more and/or have better job security.
Where are all these jobs that Australia needs these grads for. The focus on the supply side of STEM people is stupid. If the government focused on the demand side, supply would pretty quickly sort itself out.
Time for another old fashioned for me.