Another week, another Essential Research coronavirus poll — this one focusing on attitudes to China, which have notably soured. As related by The Guardian, respondents were asked if they had a favourable or unfavourable view of China’s influences on Australian life, which produced a net rating of minus 30% on trade, compared with plus 1% last August, and a net rating of minus 40% for Chinese business operating in Australia, down from minus 21%. There were also scores of minus 26% for defence, minus 36% for politics and minus 9% for culture. Conversely, the United States scored net positive scores, albeit that these were quite a lot bigger for defence (plus 29%), business (plus 15%) and trade (plus 14%) than politics (plus 2%) and culture (plus 7%).
Asked which relationship would be more beneficial to strengthen, 42% favoured the US and 18% China, compared with 38% and 28% last August. Respondents had two bob each way on trade in that 53% thought Australia “needs to do all it can to avoid a trade war with China”, with 17% opposed, but 48% felt Australia should impose retaliatory tariffs, with 22% opposed. The poll found “more than half” believe China’s trade sanctions against Australia were motivated by the government’s call for an investigation into the origins of COVID-19.
The poll continued its weekly suite of questions on coronavirus, recording no change on the government’s handling of the crisis, which was rated positively by 73% and negatively by 11%. Levels of concern little changed on last week (79% either very or quite concerned, down one, and 21% either not at all or not that concerned, up one). A divide appears to be opening on restrictions, with higher responses for both lifting them as soon as possible (up five to 14%) and holding off (up two to 27%). The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1087; a full report should be published later today.
Note that below this post is a dedicated thread for the Eden-Monaro by-election, which you are encouraged to use if you have something specific to say on that subject.
UPDATE: Full report here.
Douglas and Milko @ #1899 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 4:12 pm
Their slowness to speak obviously hasn’t affected their verbosity when writing.
I do not know whether the accusation by Prue Goward that Peter Ables (of TNT) paid Bob Hawke’s mortgage and kid’s school fees are correct, but it is interesting that she airs them again now, when Scott Morrison would love to be bringing in Accord 2.0.
Why?
*Random tweeting – unless she is particularly bored, probably not. and she does have a day job at the moment.
* Wanting to support Morrison by saying his Accord will be better because he is morally superior to Hawke?
* Wanting to say that anyone aligned with unions is venal and corrupt?
But she is one of the first generation of DIY feminism, so her motivations do tend to be complex.
Douglas and Milko says:
Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 6:18 pm
I do not know whether the accusation by Prue Goward that Peter Ables (of TNT) paid Bob Hawke’s mortgage and kid’s school fees are correct, but it is interesting that she airs them again now, when Scott Morrison would love to be bringing in Accord 2.0.
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I am more interested in if the allegations are true than in deciphering Gowards motivations for revealing the information now rather than earlier. Surely an irrelevance really. From reading the article she wrote it indicated that her understanding was that Abeles made the payments while Hawke was head of the ACTU not when he was PM.
If it is true it also makes a review of any involvement that Hawke had in the union negotiation with Abeles’ companies worthy of some interest.
D&M
You left out party partisan bastardry.
Of course one reason why Goward reveals the information after Hawkes’ death is that perhaps she was worried that Abeles lied to her and that she would then be open to being sued.
Douglas and Milko
The Accord MkI was between Labor and the Unions. Whatever Frankenstein Scrott comes up with it will be version 1.0.
Continuo
I would assume if a CES type service was available that when placing a worker they would provide a letter of offer which outlined the employees wages and conditions. If after starting employment the offer was not upheld, off to the tribunal.
Common sense says they would have a responsibility to not allow businesses to undercut awards
C@tMomma
Thank you for pointing that out.
Actually I’d looked at it a while ago, concluded that it had problems and then consequently (or at least subsequently) forgotten about it.
The main problem is that it doesn’t account for rate of change (i.e. first and second derivatives*). I think that this is important since the underlying COVID19 process is unstable (as far as I can see) and it would seem to follow that it is always doing something (i.e. accelerating or slowing).
THere can be stability in the data – e.g. constant growth – for example if one is hard up against test capacity.
* I’d add the third derivative too, but that would make me a jerk!
Didn’t Bob Hawke win various court cases against people who made accusations against him ?
Cud Chewer
I hope you’re watching the Drum tonight.
I still can’t see how gun is an appropriate first response to someone with a knife.
They have other means they could have tried first.
Tragic.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-28/police-shoot-man-dead-on-monash-freeway-in-melbourne/12295462
You’re no jerk, E G Theodore. You’re a very erudite man. 🙂
I’ve just been reading some of the life stories of Americans that have died from Covid-19.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/coronavirus-dead-victims-stories/
There’s some amazing people on the list. Just proving that not all Americans are idiotic oiks like their President.
Martin Ferguson – one of the key figure in the “accord” between government and unions during the Hawke-Keating era….
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Martin Ferguson appointed to Fair Work panel:
12 March 2020 – https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/martin-ferguson-appointed-to-fair-work-panel/news-story/d9cf8a6bc7644605fb6f9e13a87b7f4a
One can see why Ferguson is a good fit with the FWC and has been selected by the Coalition to be a member of one of its panels.
Is Ferguson still a member of the ALP – the party of, and for the workers?
Continuo
I would hope that if we ever had another government smart enough to introduce a CES type agency to assist in not only placing willing participants into appropriate jobs, that they would also ensure the letter of offer included basic information such as pay and conditions. If the employer didn’t live up to the offer the employee would have something to back up any industrial dispute.
I would also love to see the government do something proactive in the areas of job and skill training based on detailed data around true unemployment and participation rates.
The really sad days occurred earlier when Murdoch media acquired all these local newspapers. Many of them would have been published for a long time before the Murdoch takeovers.
You’d have to say Australia’s doing fairly well. It would be a shame to waste the effort.
Bill Kelty, another key figure…..
Bill Kelty says Bill Shorten, Labor threw away federal election:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/bill-kelty-says-bill-shorten-labor-threw-away-federal-election/news-story/24446e95b0e8217bc31114c8779abc02
Gawd I’m in agreement with Kelty
Pegasus @ #1919 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 6:51 pm
Labor “threw away” the election partly because they believed the polls, which were telling them what they expected to hear.
There is an interesting parallel there with the current government and their astonishing $60 billion dollar blunder … Why bother checking when you are being told what you were expecting to hear?
Hopefully, Labor will never, ever make the same mistake again. But, one suspects they will 🙁
This is another example of the cover-up being more politically damaging than the original sins.
Is New Zealand the Ireland of the South Pacific?
Dire poverty is prevented through the emigration of a large proportion of the population
John Howard was not the only ‘significant other’ in her life. She married his Press Secretary, perhaps a gunshot wedding?
The National Coalition for Gun Control says lessons should be learned from criminal charges laid against the husband of New South Wales Community Services Minister Pru Goward.
“David Barnett was charged with not keeping a firearm safely after a police inspection at the couple’s farm at Yass, north of Canberra.
Ms Goward advised the NSW Parliament of the situation late yesterday.
“Local police carried out an inspection of our family farm at Yass with my husband David Barnett,” Ms Goward told the Lower House.
“My husband has a firearm’s licence with registered firearms. Although locked, his gun safe contained a loaded rifle and also housed live ammunition.
Guns are required to be stored unloaded in a gun safe, with ammunition locked away in a separate location.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-10/gun-warning-after-mp27s-husband-charged/2833074
I’m going back to LibHO to be re-educated. 🙂
March 2015: Union call to expel minister-turned-lobbyist Martin Ferguson from Labor
https://www.smh.com.au/national/union-call-to-expel-ministerturnedlobbyist-martin-ferguson-from-labor-20150327-1m9gpg.html
Martin Ferguson – a Labor man through and through lol
Barney in Tanjung Bungasays:
Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 6:32 pm
“I still can’t see how gun is an appropriate first response to someone with a knife.
They have other means they could have tried first.”
They tried non-lethal methods – a bean-bag round and he didn’t drop the knife.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-28/monash-freeway-shooting-investigation-man-with-knife-killed/12297368
Pretty sure that the Police do not want to shoot people like that but when they are threatening to stab someone else something has to be done that stops them.
Oakeshott Country @ #1923 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 6:56 pm
Well, that may be so … but they must be doing something right …
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/new-zealand-is-a-happier-country-than-australia-according-to-the-world-happiness-report/news-story/9e7e2cdc565d78843eb130e24103aeaa
Would be a bit hard for Daniel Andrews to implement a wage freeze when he and his ministers are getting a 4.8 % increase in July. This is on top of the 7% awarded in Sept last year.
Taylormade @ #1929 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 7:00 pm
You’ve gotta pay for quality. 🙂
BKsays:
Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 6:50 pm
The interesting country in that graph is Sweden given their policy approach.
And before you all tee off I am not proselytising for their approach.
One thing I don’t like about the Greens, is that they use Facebook for their operations and press releases.
Facebook is one rung above Murdoch organs in my view, and I refuse to subscribe to either.
more sh!t from china, eh? -a.v.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/meng-wanzhou-extradition-decision-1.5585737
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/china-meng-wanzhou-extradition-kovrig-spavor-1.5587636
I see that Dictator Xi’s persistent attempts to turn Hong Kong from being a democracy to being a police state are heating up.
P1
Piggy Muldoon said that the 15% of New Zealanders who lived in Australia raised the IQ in both countries by 10%
(A joke I first heard when Bertie James left the Wallsend Police and joined the Federal Caucus in 1960)
Perhaps it is only the more miserable New Zealanders who come here
av
Main message: If you are a Canadian citizen in China then you have the potential to be used as a hostage by China regardless of your personal behaviour.
Enter China at your own risk.
boerwarsays:
Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 7:08 pm
Unfortunately for the Hong Kong and Macau and can’t see China being stopped from doing whatever they want to. China is economically too important to global trade for any action on the economic sanctions front and certainly there’s not going to be any military action by another nation.
Protesting is just going to make the CCP even more angry.
My advice to anyone would be to leave early.
Earlier discussion about the CES, the one and only time I entered a CES was a positive experience.
I’d hitchhiked to Darwin as a youth, and was low on money – so I went to the CES there. On entering, I didn’t make it to the counter before a guy pulled me up and said ‘Do you want a job?’ Yes, that’s what I’m here for. ‘Come with me’ he said, and sure enough, a job storeman/packing in a plumbers store was offered with immediate start.
The fellow who tapped me, always have loved that term since it happened to me, said quite a few employers would send staff to hang out at the CES on the off chance someone would wander in.
OC
I suggest you broaden your focus a bit.
CERTA has been very good for the growth of trans Tasman trade.
Apparently the NRL tonight is being broadcast to 70 countries. Parra should touch up the ‘Toads
sprocket_ @ #1940 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 7:18 pm
I think Peter V’Landys wants to rule the world. 😆
OMG
7:30 is going to run a “soft” story on how wonderful it is to go on a cruise ship and why worry about it..
Fuckwits!
15% of the bastards still prefer to live here
Buce
Who would take 7.5 million Hong Kong residents?
The 64 billionaires could, presumably, shift shop.
Not the ordinary people.
sprocket_ @ #1932 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 7:04 pm
I don’t call it fakebook, for nothing. I, too, have as little to do with it as possible. It’s sooo shallow. People feel the need to comment on any old thing other people put up.
Global sport is a massive industry, and like tourism, it has been shutdown by the pandemic.
German soccer, Korean baseball and UFC are the only sports being broadcast to the world – now to be joined by our very own Rugby League.
After all the govt found 60 billion dollars. Surely they can extend jobseeker and jobkeeper beyond that timeframe.
Stephen Jones MP
@StephenJonesMP
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FISCAL CLIFF EVIDENCE JUST IN:
$250B loan deferrals expire in October
$60B in small businesses loans
This all comes to a head at the same time as JobKeepr is axed and JobSeeker is slashed.
Slogans won’t stop this fiscal cliff.
OC
Careful. Being an arsehole may offend.
One of Bludger’s more civilized regulars is a Kiwi.
C@t
I have never had a Facebook account.
And share the following sentiments………….
Ben Rhodes
@brhodes
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History will record Mark Zuckerberg as a singularly destructive force. twitter.com/tvietor08/stat…
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Tommy Vietor
@TVietor08
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Facebook’s own research shows the platform is polarizing the country and driving people into extremists groups, but Zuckerberg is more worried about being called mean names by Trump. https://newsweek.com/zuckerberg-says-twitter-wrong-fact-check-trump-1506958
1:31 PM · May 28, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
BK
“You’d have to say Australia’s doing fairly well. It would be a shame to waste the effort.”
Try this
https://aatishb.com/covidtrends/?location=Australia&location=Brazil&location=Canada&location=China&location=France&location=Germany&location=Hong+Kong&location=India&location=Italy&location=Japan&location=New+Zealand&location=Russia&location=Singapore&location=South+Korea&location=Spain&location=Taiwan&location=Turkey&location=US&location=United+Kingdom&location=Vietnam
The ones that are succeeding are the ones that are “dropping off”.
Sadly though BK, we are really on a knife edge. We might luck our way into elimination. But if we don’t then a second (and possibly larger) wave is a very real possibility. By the time we realise that we’ve gotten too slack and we’ve got too many people in crowded places, it’ll be March all over again, only this time we won’t shut things down until we’re well into the disaster zone.