Another week, another Essential Research coronavirus poll — this one focusing on attitudes to China, which have notably soured. As related by The Guardian, respondents were asked if they had a favourable or unfavourable view of China’s influences on Australian life, which produced a net rating of minus 30% on trade, compared with plus 1% last August, and a net rating of minus 40% for Chinese business operating in Australia, down from minus 21%. There were also scores of minus 26% for defence, minus 36% for politics and minus 9% for culture. Conversely, the United States scored net positive scores, albeit that these were quite a lot bigger for defence (plus 29%), business (plus 15%) and trade (plus 14%) than politics (plus 2%) and culture (plus 7%).
Asked which relationship would be more beneficial to strengthen, 42% favoured the US and 18% China, compared with 38% and 28% last August. Respondents had two bob each way on trade in that 53% thought Australia “needs to do all it can to avoid a trade war with China”, with 17% opposed, but 48% felt Australia should impose retaliatory tariffs, with 22% opposed. The poll found “more than half” believe China’s trade sanctions against Australia were motivated by the government’s call for an investigation into the origins of COVID-19.
The poll continued its weekly suite of questions on coronavirus, recording no change on the government’s handling of the crisis, which was rated positively by 73% and negatively by 11%. Levels of concern little changed on last week (79% either very or quite concerned, down one, and 21% either not at all or not that concerned, up one). A divide appears to be opening on restrictions, with higher responses for both lifting them as soon as possible (up five to 14%) and holding off (up two to 27%). The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1087; a full report should be published later today.
Note that below this post is a dedicated thread for the Eden-Monaro by-election, which you are encouraged to use if you have something specific to say on that subject.
UPDATE: Full report here.
Firefox @ #1595 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 10:32 am
‘“As others have asked, why is Canavan even on that QandA panel of five speakers?’
Because he’s ‘good’ TV. He might say something ‘controversial’ he might start some argy bargy……
But then, you know that’s why he’s on the panel.
lizzie @ #1595 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 8:32 am
And that would be a bad thing?
Isn’t that the German model?
As a Labor member there is just no justification for having him in the Party let alone the Parliament. Least it reminds me WA isn’t the most broken branch, and it could be worse we could be the LNP or the Greens. So …
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Firefox
“Nationals – 2019: 642,233 (4.51%) ”
Yes, but…
I’m the last one to defend the Nationals. They’re political dinosaurs, heading for extinction.
Nevertheless, the low Nats vote is impacted by the fact they don’t contest as many seats as the Greens, because the Coalition agreement prevents them from running in Lib-held seats.
Is anyone on the q@a panel tonight left of centre?
Zoe Whitton…maybe?
Ahead on penalties: Victoria leads nation on COVID-19 lockdown fines
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ahead-on-penalties-victoria-leads-nation-on-covid-19-lockdown-fines-20200527-p54x0d.html
“Victorians have been fined for breaking coronavirus rules at almost triple the rate of any other state or territory, with almost 6000 people each receiving a $1652 penalty since COVID-19 restrictions were imposed.
Information obtained by The Age shows the number of fines in Victoria is nearly three times the number issued in Queensland and four times greater than in NSW – a state with more coronavirus cases and deaths than its southern counterpart.
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Victoria Police has issued 5957 fines for restriction breaches such as unnecessary travel, equating to a conservative estimate of more than $8 million in penalties.
Civil rights lawyers say the disparity in numbers could mean Victoria has been overpoliced during the lockdown period.
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Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner Kristen Hilton said the police response had improved since the heavy-handed enforcement seen when fines began to be issued at the end of March.
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She called for more information to be released, including a breakdown of where fines had been issued, to show whether vulnerable communities were over-represented.
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The Police Accountability Project’s Anthony Kelly said there were concerns Victorian officers had been overzealous, particularly against lower-socioeconomic communities.
WeWantPaul @ #1601 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 10:36 am
Sweet baby Jesus you people are delusional.
Fitzgibbon isn’t the fucking problem.
“Because he’s ‘good’ TV. He might say something ‘controversial’ he might start some argy bargy……
But then, you know that’s why he’s on the panel.”
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Ah yes, true – ratings.
…which really should not be something the ABC takes into consideration when forming a panel to talk about politics. They aren’t Channel Nine, Seven, or Ten.
Philip Lowe is stressing the importance of good governance in the choice of infrastructure projects.
Joel Fitzgibbon’s op piece in today’s Australian
Morrison is chasing votes at the expense of exports
We are a proud middle power. But it does us no good to bash our biggest customer in China for political advantage.
https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/morrison-is-chasing-votes-at-the-expense-of-exports-20200527-p54wre
Whose votes is F chasing?
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #1600 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 10:36 am
‘Anthony Albanese has launched a blistering attack on the Liberal party, warning Hillsong preacher Bria………’ oh fuck it, what’s the point…
I don’t see the problem.
If their arguments are weak, then the others get to show that up on national TV.
Steve777 @ #1519 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 8:40 am
But the guys who fish them for a living do. And they have families who also vote.
BK @ #1487 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 7:31 am
Not weird at all given how many politicians and their families have interests in childcare.
As the article itself says ….
Sure does 🙁
“Nevertheless, the low Nats vote is impacted by the fact they don’t contest as many seats as the Greens, because the Coalition agreement prevents them from running in Lib-held seats.”
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That Nats vote doesn’t include the Nats in the Qld LNP either by the way. So if you split the LNP into Libs and Nats you could add a few hundred thousand to the Nats total from Qld. Pretty hard to work out what the exact total would be but yeah much more than One Nation that’s for sure.
mundo
““As others have asked, why is Canavan even on that QandA panel of five speakers?’
Because he’s ‘good’ TV. He might say something ‘controversial’ he might start some argy bargy……
But then, you know that’s why he’s on the panel.”
I suspect a great many people will disagree with me here (probably vigorously). But I miss the old argy-bargy of Q+A. I thought the most recent Q+A was dead boring. I warmed to Rae Johnston, but the other panelists were wonks and swots, well-intentioned but studiously dull.
Pegasus @ #1609 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 10:47 am
err, swinging voters, disaffected Labor voters with a slight rightish bent, swinging Liberals, anyone who might vote Labor, anyone over the age of 18.
No Labor voter is going to cast an anti Labor vote because of Fitzgibbon.
Not one.
I didn’t know his sense of humor was that dark.
Kakuru @ #1615 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 10:52 am
I doubt Canavan and Fitzy will come to blows, but they might kiss….that’d be a doozy….
Canavan represents the Coalition.
Attempts to Greensplain the representation math away are laughable.
More Moir:
mundo
“I doubt Canavan and Fitzy will come to blows, but they might kiss….that’d be a doozy…”
Based on previous collisions between Canavan and Fitzy, I doubt they’ll be kissing. Or hugging.
The ALP needs warhorses like Fitzgibbon. The fact that those on the far left hate him so much means he’s probably doing something right.
The Greens lose practically everywhere.
The Nats win in a few small spots.
Bandt’s attempt to move in on Nats’ heartlands by ‘connecting’ with farmers was a sick joke.
Farmers know that the Greens want to crucify them.
The Greens should stick to astroturfing naive kiddies.
There should be a Q&A on unlimited population growth with the entire panel consisting of Greens promoters of the Great Australian Migration Ponzi Scheme.
mundo
Post-2019 federal election, F’s seat of Hunter has gone from very safe Labor to marginal (around 3%).
Firefox @ #1533 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 8:52 am
To be fair to William, I think he was having a go at BB as least as much as me. And I can certainly understand his frustration. I am fed up to the back teeth with the constant abuse on this site as well, and am making an effort not to respond in kind (well, not so much anyway).
Sydney braces for rat ‘plague’ after Covid-19 forces hungry rodents to turn to cannibalism
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/may/28/sydney-braces-for-rat-plague-after-covid-19-forces-hungry-rodents-to-turn-to-cannibalism
One new case today in NSW
And of course Gladys is compelled to point out that its a queenslander (in hotel quarantine).
Philip Lowe really does come over as a nice guy – as well as being knowledgeable and genuine.
It’s Time @ #1563 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 9:38 am
The Labor party, clearly.
Labor got smashed in the regions because it was wedged by the Coalition and the Greens on coal.
Fitz survived this wedge but only just.
The Coalition will be hoping that Adani is still around at the next election.
It will give them another three years of fossil slather.
The Greens will be hoping that Adani is still around at the next election.
It will give them another three years of salving their ADD.
Meanwhile, while no-one in the Greens or the Coalition were watching, the Chinese have diversified their thermal coal sources. Australian export spot prices are below the cost of production.
But Canavan will be beating his chest on Adani tonight. And the Greens will be astro turfing the kiddies on Adani.
This perpetual motion wedge game is killing Australia.
Australia desperately needs long game leadership from the Coalition and the Greens.
All it is getting is pathetic party partisan wedges and kiddie astroturfing by people who should know better.
BK
Talk softly and carry a big stick?
bw
Yes you keep arguing that Labor be weak on the environment and be for coal.
It worked so well for Shorten. Unlike the Rudd 07 campaign.
Ahh the Good TV thing.
Funnily enough the best discussion panel show I can remember viewing was FAQ hosted by Adam Spencer which had a whole bunch of scientists and experts discussing the topic of the day. There was no need for a ID10T talking head shill on these shows. Funnily enough, these shows were more intelligent and provided answers and solutions to complex problems in an interesting way. No wonder that show had to be stopped…
New Zealand zero cases yet again 🙂
Oh and they are now down to 8 active cases.
Eat that Gladys!
Kakuru @ #1623 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 11:01 am
Yes, it’s interesting how those who criticise Fitzgibbon pay no heed to what his constituents actually want out of him, their elected representative.
boerwar
“Labor got smashed in the regions because it was wedged by the Coalition and the Greens on coal.
Fitz survived this wedge but only just.”
Yep.
Are we entering a cold war phase?
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Cat
Thats why I posted about vested interest.
I expect Fitzgibbon to promote coal because thats what his voters are convinced he should do.
Thats exactly why Labor should not put him in that invidious position on a national tv show.
The local conflicts with the national and world interest
Victoria @ #1639 Thursday, May 28th, 2020 – 11:19 am
Even if we didn’t currently have morons occupying the White House, I know which side my money would be on.
Player one
And morons in the UK and here in Australia.
What could go wrong. Sigh………
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US coronavirus deaths:
90 days ago: 0 deaths
80 days ago: 21 deaths
70 days ago: 149 deaths
60 days ago: 2,043 deaths
50 days ago: 12,895 deaths
40 days ago: 37,054 deaths
30 days ago: 56,255 deaths
20 days ago: 75,662 deaths
10 days ago: 89,562 deaths
“Investments in quality childcare pay dividends.”
The Uber Reich Potato would definitely agree with that statement. He’s been rorting millions from the system for ages and isn’t about to stop.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-28/60-billion-coronavirus-jobkeeper-shortfall-should-be-spent/12290470?section=business
And Victoria blots its copybook again..
10 cases.
Another hotel worker
6 family contacts of previous cases
3 overseas
CC – the overall trend for Victoria is extremely positive however.
Total active cases yesterday sat at 57.
I’d say it’s 50/50 if we can stamp out the fire completely. NSW are bringing extra logs…
In a rare moment of good news, I expect the average IQ of regional Australia to “snap back” following this announcement …
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/may/28/news-corp-announces-end-of-nearly-100-australian-print-newspapers-in-huge-shift-to-digital
Alpha Zero
I can’t comment until NSW updates its database properly. Hard to tell who is winning. Victoria was before it got cluster fucked.