At what’s normally a dull time for electoral news, the Federal Court has decided to beat Santa to the punch by announcing its judgement in the challenges to the Chisholm and Kooyong results at 2:15pm today. I’ll add a dedicated post when that happens, but for the time being, here’s the latest thread for general political discussion, it being long past time for a new one.
Two other items of news I can think to mention: the United States Studies Centre has published a report that compares survey results on political attitudes in Australia and the United States, which reaches the intuitive conclusions that Australians are both less conservative and less polarised by partisanship; and GhostWhoVotes offers a neat presentation of the states’ House of Representatives seat entitlements based on current population numbers, six months out from the final determination.
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Michael smith makes no secret of who and what he is.
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2019/12/jason-morrison-stands-up-to-his-then-fairfax-bosses-and-julia-gillard-in-september-2011.html
TTT, while a bit ambiguous doesn’t deserve a PB group spanking think i. 🙂
Barnyard on the other hand deserves sectioning. 🙁 That vid is indicative of serious drugs or serious derangement or both.
TPOF
Prayers for Barnaby to be smitten isn’t allowed. Sorry. 😆
lizzie says:
Wednesday, December 25, 2019 at 1:38 pm
TPOF
Prayers for Barnaby to be smitten isn’t allowed. Sorry.
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There are many things God could do with Barnaby other than smite him!
Just a very small observation on the Joyce video.
You can see he is hand feeding his stock. His stock look very much as if they are only just surviving the drought. The surrounding countryside looks desolate.
I am not condoning any of Joyce’s words or behaviours.
But he is probably, at some basic human level, suffering from the psychological consequences of the drought.
C@tmomma @ #699 Wednesday, December 25th, 2019 – 1:02 pm
No I did not try to silence someone who was suspicious, I pointed out that you leapt to the suspicion that it was the fault of the Chinese with no evidence what so ever. A clear attempt to blame a country and/or race of people for something that they are not to blame for seems to be a clear example of racism.
As you have now admitted you did not look at the evidence and now you have you find that your leap into a racist suspicion was clearly wrong and you believe you can justify that suspicion by drawing a micro thin line to Belt and Road/String of Pearls (along with another snide comment referencing the name).
What part of a racist suspicion do you not understand. You have leapt to blaming another race without evidence of that race involvement, you decided that it was worth telling everyone that the Chinese were to blame is decidedly racist. Not that you are shocked that this environmental accident has happened but that it was the Chinese at fault.
I am not trying to silence the suspicion, I did not ask you to rethink and rescind the comment, I am pointing out that the conclusion you leapt to was racist and nothing you have said in your response has changed the original racist posting.
The racist of the world thank you for posting that the Chinese are to blame for an environmental accident in the Galapagos Islands with no evidence and that they had nothing to do with.
Maybe you could draw a much longer bow and snidely aim your suspicions over other environmental accidents around the world on other races.
It’s too easy to pile on. But Morrison has made it onto the global stage. A good friend of my wife sent us this. The headlilne reads: I am not Scott Morrison.
https://vancouversun.com/news/i-am-not-scott-morrison-canadian-discovers-now-is-a-bad-time-to-look-identical-to-unpopular-australian-pm/wcm/34d35650-9c75-4561-85a9-62180beb7f6b
HaveAChat,
Whatever.
I’ll just go throw myself into the 7 levels of hell. Tootles. 😀
“ First we had the Australian paint a 30 minute ferry ride by Annastacia Palaszczuk as a overseas holiday.”
I’m sorry Fred, but facts are facts. The North Stradbroke Ferry takes 50 minutes at least. … unless she left the car behind and took the Flyer. That only takes 25 minutes …
Hey BW
Consider also
Barnaby is probably suffering the consequences of his separation big time.
With the drought on top..
And the stresses of going through with nurturing another young family
All high on the stress scale
Plus the drinking habit
Pressure job of being a poly
I would say to Mr Joyce – be careful about your mental and physical health.
Not that I am a fan of his…………..
**Polly
The basis of climate change is that we will experience more frequent abnormal events more often and that they will be bigger and last longer.
The impact of this happening is that volunteer fire fighters cannot sustain the effort for all the economic and personal reasons that are plain to everyone that is not trying to restrict Government spending.
So the facile comments about volunteers being insulted by offers of payment and that they do it for the honour of serving the community are really redindant if you believe Climate Change is real and you have to deal with it effectively.
https://firenewsfeed.com/opinions/660743#.XgLXGFhTWdc.twitter
Barnaby must be suffering a windmill related condition..
https://www.northerndailyleader.com.au/story/4575388/barnaby-joyce-attacks-renewable-policy-that-made-sapphire-wind-farm-possible/
Re Morrison: I listened to a podcast today and this stuck with me. “…like the goal of all marketing, is to get you excited so that you won’t think clearly…” I couldn’t but think of a certain Prime Marketer.
Re Fires: There is acute and there is chronic. The treatment varies. Right now the issue is acute.
Cud Chewer @ #714 Wednesday, December 25th, 2019 – 6:03 pm
It’s the smoke from the windmills getting upside his head. 😐
Marcos De Feilittt @ #710 Wednesday, December 25th, 2019 – 3:47 pm
Aside from the drought, each of those are things Barnaby chose of his own free will. If they’re taking a toll, that’s only fair enough.
A belated, but affectionate “Bah Humbug!” to all Bludgers, on what feels like the most reality based Silly Season for quite a while.
Thanks to all the Xmas eve alt-carol posters – especially Itza for the Balulalow carol, C@t for the picture of what might have been, KayJay for the sharpest whimsy north of Braye Park – and Frednk for posting the mash-up of Redgum’s words and the Herd’s images of I was only 19. I had never thought of it as an Australian Christmas song, but it exemplifies something deep and mutual in the pain and fortitude of the front line grunt, be they Diggers or Fireys, that the managers and marketeers will never reach. A week ago I posted words to the effect that Scummo was having his Port Arthur, and may be looking at his Vietnam. I was at school during the Vietnam Moratorium, but the political guerilla war we are now fighting with the Denialists resonates.
This is typical of the Morrison gov. All show and no substance.
They make a song and dance about adding inadequate funds. They announced $496 million of additional funding for measures including 10,000 home care packages when over 30,000 are needed, after the Aged Care Royal Commission delivered a scathing interim report, which found Australia’s aged care system was “sad and shocking” and “diminishes Australia as a nation”.
Yet the home care packages are not the whole story.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-commits-537-million-to-aged-care-in-response-to-royal-commission-20191125-p53dtq.html
Merry Christmas to everybody on this blog.
In-spite of what has happened recently, I am not expecting Morrison’s approval rating to go lower than 40%, which is what Donald Trump averages.
“Interesting” discussion today with an uncle who is in the climate deniers camp.I asked him whether he was happy that because climate change was bogus ( his words ) that insurance companies are perpetrating a massive fraud on the Aus people by raising their premiums because of it and it seems the govt ( who he voted for ) is happy for this fraud to continue. Showed him an article or two….
https://www.afr.com/companies/financial-services/australian-insurers-say-act-now-on-climate-change-20190221-h1bjck
Silence.
….Hope everyone had as good a day as I did….I don’t drink but it was still a good day with family…lol
I’m sure many have read the Richard Flanagan piece in the NewDaily today. If you haven’t, go search it out as it’s worth the effort.
sonar @ #182 Wednesday, December 25th, 2019 – 7:30 pm
Trumpism is denial of facts. It’s a terrible thing that it has infected Australia’s two major political parties.
@Rex Douglas……there are people on ALL sides of politics who are not deniers.
I think it’s their response….or lack of…….. to whatever standard you have set that pisses you off.
If the owner of this particular place would like to learn himself a lesson, he might read Toorak Toff’s fairly innocuous (if slightly ambiguous) comment at 10:01 am, then juxtapose Lizzie’s response with the demented attack launched by Frednk and Catmomma.
Lizzie, a highly literate person, understood the context and made a subtle insinuation to that effect.
But the duopolis bandwagon of barely literate boofheaded buffoons decided that a person calling themself “Toorak” must be, by definition a “twisted minded” Liberal voter.
Frednk is presumably drunk, given it is Christmas, so might be forgiven.
Catmomma is a declared tea-tottler, what is her excuse for behaving like an arsehole and hounding off your customers?
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2019/12/field-guide-to-opinion-pollsters-46th.html
Field Guide To Opinion Polls: 46th Parliament Edition
sonar
Another quiet Australian slightly more educated. Well done 🙂
TPOF:
Amen.
BW
One can only hope!
Mt Torrens township was threatened a few hours ago by a scrub fire breaking out near the CFS shed. As usual the farm fire units descended from all directions and with great energy managed to stop its progress. A bomber arrived, took a loom and went on.
This is going to take weeks to be settled down.
Not Sure @ #725 Wednesday, December 25th, 2019 – 7:54 pm
You really are full of yourself, aren’t you? Telling the moderator of this blog how to police it is one of the hubristic noob sins that is likely to mark you out as a BSD of the Liberal type. Not, that I am saying you are a Liberal, just the sort they attract.
I explained myself fully to Toorak Toff and he thanked me. Hmm, I guessed you missed that bit. Noob. Or is it numpty, I can’t decide.
The Toorak Toff has been around these parts a lot longer than you, and likely a lot longer than you will ever be, as you flame out when your head explodes one day as you constantly try and police us.
I think you need to get a life. You’re not suited to the role of blog cop.
Oh, and I have likely got more relatives and friends that live in Toorak than you ever will have. I’m no snob about people. Or do I disdain their success. Except when it is egregiously obtained by the standards I set personally.
So, maybe next time, before you shoot your mouth off, again, (hmm, and I wonder, is it because you’ve had a few yourself?), you completely familiarise yourself with the situation. Also, maybe cut people here a bit more slack when they see a red flag due to trolling of Labor leaders by RW professional trolls like Michael Smith and they react to a long-term poster here who appeared, due to the language they used when they made their first post and as I explained to lizzie and which Toorak Toff understood but which you don’t seem to have, which seemed to suggest that they had believed the professional troll.
I apologise if I caused Toorak Toff any offence. Though it doesn’t seem to me as though I did. He must have thicker skin and be more reasonable than you. 🙂
Oh, and lizzie isn’t the only ‘highly literate person’ among us. I just enjoy acting dumb. It sucks a lot of people in. Especially noobs. 😉
I’d grade your crimes against the English language and grammar more broadly, except it would take too long.
That you apologised for behaving like am imbecile, does not correct the fact that you behaved like an imbecile.
D minus
Repeat the 3rd Grade.
Not Sure,
Oh I see, you’re a, possibly now retired, teacher. No wonder you’re trying to be blog headmaster. 🙄
NOTICE: There will be no Dawn Patrol until further notice. My laptop just began to fry itself on my lap. Bummer! And I have done my crust at the iPad just typing this.
And now for something light-hearted while I wait for Not Sure to get over himself. This is a sample of the spelling of Pete Buttigieg’s surname by respondents to a quiz where people were asked to put a name to a face:
168 Ways Respondents Spelled “Buttigieg”
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🙂
Elves to the rescue, BK! Until further notice.
Hmm, Boxing Day Sales tomorrow. Hint! Hint! Grab yourself a bargain. 🙂
Good to find you’re in fine form C@t. We have some smoke around my way too.
Arguably one of Handle’s most sublime arias: Lascia Ch’io Pianga (“Leave me to Languish”), among so many, sung unusually by a counter-tenor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wseOj1unXco
C@tmomma says:
Wednesday, December 25, 2019 at 9:06 pm
…”I see, you’re a, possibly now retired, teacher. No wonder you’re trying to be blog headmaster”…
I’m at least 10 years younger than you, couldn’t teach a halfwit how to drive a stick up a dog’s arse, and have been reading/commenting here since the first iteration of Kevin Rudd.
Strangely, I remember your return in about 2015, but not your original presence.
To clear matters up, I received the Albo smear from someone who should know better. I tried to send out a warning but when attacked savagely realised my message could be read a way other than that intended.
I thank lizzie for her understanding.
Comrades, we live in dark times.
Contrast the Italian version hereinbefore sung by a counter-tenor with it sung in English by a soprano:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88MUV27BgGo
Not Sure,
So you don’t even have acting out as an excuse for your boorish behaviour. I mean, just think about how many posters here you’ve had a go at since your return under your new nom, or whatever it is you have constructed by way of your blog background, and how often it is shown how wrong you have been. Like today.
As TT has just reiterated, his post could have been read more than one way. lizzie, who is cool, calm and collected, read it one way, I, who am not, and I don’t apologise for that, read it the other way. So, take me out back and shoot me for being passionate and attempting to guard against lovely people like TT being sucked in by the malodorous, malevolent Right Wing propaganda machine. It’s virtually a full time job these days to sniff these things out and to try and deal with it so that good people like Toorak Toff don’t get sucked into the maelstrom of mendacity.
And, after you have disposed of me for high crimes and blog misdemeanours, when you come back, can you kindly take a chill pill?
Hmm, Boxing Day Sales tomorrow. Hint! Hint! Grab yourself a bargain.
_________
C@t
Snap! My visiting son and I have just chosen one and will dash to Harvey Norman in the morning. And then the fun will start!
Late Riser:
We got 60 today in the GC hinterland. I note you got similar. Maybe RainMo does have friends in the sky?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7XH-58eB8c
Ombra mai fu
Andreas Scholl
Equally sublime
And to think some swore by Wagner (eg, Hitler), even Mahler (eg, Keating) – the mind boggles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39yb9jUsGm8
Another version of Lascia Ch’io Pianga…. also exquisite
BK my laptop went on the fritz at Xmas so I bought a new laptop in the Boxing Day sales
After 30 minutes I was calculating how long it would take me to save an apple – May. 6 years later it is still going strong. Touchwood, fingers crossed etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7wbRzPp6dQ
Incredible
I’m never wrong, Catmomma.
Incorrect sometimes, but never wrong.