Winners and losers

Reading between the lines of the Liberal Party’s post-election reports for the federal and Victorian state elections.

In the wake of Craig Emerson and Jay Weatherill’s federal electoral post-mortem for Labor, two post-election reviews have emerged from the Liberal Party, with very different tales to tell – one from the May 2019 federal triumph, the other from the November 2018 Victorian state disaster.

The first of these was conducted by Arthur Sinodinos and Steven Joyce, the latter being a former cabinet minister and campaign director for the conservative National Party in New Zealand. It seems we only get to see the executive summary and recommendations, the general tenor of which is that, while all concerned are to be congratulated on a job well done, the party benefited from a “poor Labor Party campaign” and shouldn’t get too cocky. Points of interest:

• It would seem the notion of introducing optional preferential voting has caught the fancy of some in the party. The report recommends the party “undertake analytical work to determine the opportunities and risks” – presumably with respect to itself – “before making any decision to request such a change”.

• Perhaps relatedly, the report says the party should work closer with the Nationals to avoid three-cornered contests. These may have handicapped the party in Gilmore, the one seat it lost to Labor in New South Wales outside Victoria.

• The report comes out for voter identification at the polling booth, a dubious notion that nonetheless did no real harm when it briefly operated in Queensland in 2015, and electronic certified lists of voters, which make a lot more sense.

• It is further felt that the parliament might want to look at cutting the pre-poll voting period from three weeks to two, but should keep its hands off the parties’ practice of mailing out postal vote applications. Parliament should also do something about “boorish behaviour around polling booths”, like “limiting the presence of volunteers to those linked with a particular candidate”.

• Hints are offered that Liberals’ pollsters served up dud results from “inner city metropolitan seats”. This probably means Reid in Sydney and Chisholm in Melbourne, both of which went better than they expected, and perhaps reflects difficulties polling the Chinese community. It is further suggested that the party’s polling program should expand from 20 seats to 25.

• Ten to twelve months is about the right length of time out from the election to preselect marginal seat candidates, and safe Labor seats can wait until six months out. This is at odds with the Victorian party’s recent decision to get promptly down to business, even ahead of a looming redistribution, which has been a source of friction between the state and federal party.

• After six of the party’s candidates fell by the wayside during the campaign, largely on account of social media indiscretions (one of which may have cost the Liberals the Tasmanian seat of Lyons), it is suggested that more careful vetting processes might be in order.

The Victorian inquiry was conducted by former state and federal party director Tony Nutt, and is available in apparently unexpurgated form. Notably:

• The party’s tough-on-crime campaign theme, turbo-charged by media reportage of an African gangs crisis, failed to land. Too many saw it as “a political tactic rather than an authentic problem to be solved by initiatives that would help make their neighbourhoods safer”. As if to show that you can’t always believe Peter Dutton, post-election research found the issue influenced the vote of only 6% of respondents, “and then not necessarily to our advantage”.

• As it became evident during the campaign that they were in trouble, the party’s research found the main problem was “a complete lack of knowledge about Matthew Guy, his team and their plans for Victoria if elected”. To the extent that Guy was recognised at all, it was usually on account of “lobster with a mobster”.

• Guy’s poor name recognition made it all the worse that attention was focused on personalities in federal politics, two months after the demise of Malcolm Turnbull. Post-election research found “30% of voters in Victorian electorates that were lost to Labor on the 24th November stated that they could not vote for the Liberal Party because of the removal of Malcolm Turnbull”.

• Amid a flurry of jabs at the Andrews government, for indiscretions said to make the Liberal defeat all the more intolerable, it is occasionally acknowledged tacitly that the government had not made itself an easy target. Voters were said to have been less concerned about “the Red Shirts affair for instance” than “more relevant, personal and compelling factors like delivery of local infrastructure”.

• The report features an exhausting list of recommendations, updated from David Kemp’s similar report in 2015, the first of which is that the party needs to get to work early on a “proper market research-based core strategy”. This reflects the Emerson and Weatherill report, which identified the main problem with the Labor campaign as a “weak strategy”.

• A set of recommendations headed “booth management” complains electoral commissions don’t act when Labor and union campaigners bully their volunteers.

• Without naming names, the report weights in against factional operators and journalists who “see themselves more as players and influencers than as traditional reporters”.

• The report is cagey about i360, described in The Age as “a controversial American voter data machine the party used in recent state elections in Victoria and South Australia”. It was reported to have been abandoned in April “amid a botched rollout and fears sensitive voter information was at risk”, but the report says only that it is in suspension, and recommends a “thorough review”.

• Other recommendations are that the party should write more lists, hold more meetings and find better candidates, and that its shadow ministers should pull their fingers out.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Tristo
    It would be easier to grant a banking license to one of the existing government finance businesses and Australia Post isn’t suitable and lacks experience in the space.

  2. Alex EllinghausenVerified account@ellinghausen
    1h1 hour ago
    Pyrocumulus cloud caused by North Black Range bushfire near Braidwood seen from Canberra

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  3. C@tmomma @ #2218 Saturday, December 7th, 2019 – 4:19 pm

    Meryl Swanson did say that miners, despite hating their coal mining jobs, were doing it so that they were able to send their kids to Uni so they would never have to do what they were doing. To go to a lesser paying job, say installing solar panels for 40k per year wouldn’t allow them to do that.

    This is pretty much what I’ve been saying all along. A transition to renewables jobs is not much of a selling point to people making six figures a year. Much the same as getting a job at one of the many new supermarkets being opened up wasn’t much of a selling point to the thousands of car workers made redundant when the manufacturers shut up shop.

    Labor, and yes the Greens as well, are being a tad disingenuous in claiming that renewables jobs will replace mining.

    My main points are (again):

    All manufacturing of renewables (solar panels, wind turbine components) will be done overseas and imported into Australia. No jobs there.

    With the exception of wind turbines there are no mechanical parts in renewable technologies, therefore bugger all in the way of maintenance. Even wind turbines won’t require much in the way of maintenance, and what there is will be done by skeleton crews on demand (ie casual work). Monitoring the performance of the turbines will be done remotely. It can be done just as easily from Brisbane, Bangalore, Budapest or Buenos Aires. Bugger all in the way of jobs there either.

    Sure, there’ll be a fair bit of work involved in the installation process however that won’t last very long (relatively speaking).

    On the other side of the coin, mining work is becoming rapidly redundant in itself. There are no six figure jobs, or even minimum wage casual jobs on automated mine sites. The whole process, from pit to port, will, and is being done with very little, if any, human input. Once again the monitoring process for that can also be done from an office in Brisbane, Bangalore, Budapest or Buenos Aires. No real future there either, apart from the initial construction phase.

  4. [He became Premier because of factional decision making. The problem is the reduced quality of the individuals concerned.]

    In one and that is something Michael Lavarch cannot fix.

    The NSW ALP is as talentless as the Libs were in the early 1980s.

    Ironically, what talent there was in recent times, was called upon by the present government from time to time for advice and appointments.

  5. One can debate stats until the cows come home apropos of GW; the essence is far less complicated. And it’s this: the devastating bush fires so early in the season are unprecedented. Who gives a cuss if Britain’s emissions are greater per capita than ours? If the scenario plays out as predicted, those who’ve lost, who will lose everything will be looking for a scapegoat; that goat is Morrison, his fossilised, dummkopf colleagues. Politics is all about simple messaging; there’s no simpler message than apportioning blame to the troglodytes on the Treasury Benches. Albanese must cease pussyfooting.

  6. DP

    No real future there either, apart from the initial construction phase.

    That is where a lot of people and small businesses ‘flucked up’ .They took the construction phase as being the new normal. I worked at an LNG facility during construction ,commissioning and operation start. It was a real eye opener to see a ‘swarming with workers” site during construction turn in to places where you could walk through the place and see nobody walking around, a veritable $3 billion ghost town. Made me realise what was in store for so many across WA when the “mining boom” ended for it was really the “mining construction boom” phase.

  7. Britain’s emissions per capita are lower than ours.

    Bor war is on the it’s not our fault there’s nothing we can do train.

    It’s possible to transform energy production, transportation and agriculture. We’re wealthy in so many ways despite our poverty of ambition and leadership. If we were to take the success stories of these transformations to the world we could help deal with the global problem. By refusing to use our natural advantages we’re a much larger part of the problem than the tiny proportion that we produce ourselves. We’re the excuse for everyone less well endowed than ourselves to sit back and hope that someone else fixes it. If wealthy, wise Australia is sitting on her hands what could we possibly do?

    Sure we can say that we can’t make a difference, but you’d better have at least tried to help rather than doing everything possible to open more coal mines, stop power station closures and then standing up in front of the world to lie badly and brazenly declaring that we are doing our bit.

  8. brett

    Britain’s emissions per capita are lower than ours.

    Just a tad 2016, UK per capita 5.6 ton Aus 16.2 ton. Soooo with us producing 2.89 times a head more and them having a population 2.67 greater than ours it puts us ahead of them in the “wreck the planet” stakes.

  9. Re: Elon Musk. The plaintiff took a huge risk by suing in the US. He probably would have succeeded in the UK. The man’s a hero. Who would risk his life? – only afterward to be named as a paedophile? Musk is one shitty person.

  10. Mavis
    says:
    Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 10:23 pm
    Re: Elon Musk. The plaintiff took a huge risk by suing in the US. He probably would have succeeded in the UK. The man’s a hero. Who would risk his life? – only afterward to be named as a paedophile? Musk is one shitty person.
    _________________________
    I admire Musk in some respects. He’s apologised for what he said. They traded insults and Musk got down dirtier. That’s what the jury thought too I suppose.

  11. Thankfully, Dotard is ignoring the Impeachment proceedings and getting on with proper Presidential duties…

    “Washington – President Donald Trump said Friday that his administration is looking into relaxing water-saving regulations for toilets, sinks and showers, saying consumers end up using even more water by flushing multiple times and trying to get clean with low water streams.

    “People are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times as opposed to once. They end up using more water,’’ Trump said while talking with business owners about what he said are “common sense’’ steps to end overregulation. “‘The EPA is looking at that very strongly at my suggestion.’’

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/06/trump-says-epa-might-relax-standard-low-flush-toilets/40774207/

  12. Danama Papers…

    There is a background story about the closure of Newcastle steel works and the fact that BHP Steel wanted to upgrade the plant with (what was then) state of the art technology.

    We now have the opportunity to go back into steel making using hydrogen.. and guess what you need to produce that hydrogen – a lot of cheap solar and wind energy.

    Point I’m making is that it isn’t just the making of renewable energy – its the using of renewable energy.

    I am sitting on a proposal to reclaim, reprocess and 100 percent recycle land fills. It would be a major industry in its own right – and it would run off excess solar energy.

  13. guytaur

    You suggest, unless I’m misreading, that Labor needs to stop the Carmichael mine to have any hope of retaining government in Queensland.

    If they do this, Labor will without question, lose the seats of Townsville, Keppel, Thuringowa and Rockhampton. And possibly a few much further up the pendulum.

    This on top of the Greens almost certainly winning South Brisbane given West Emd is at peak gentrification.

    Where will Labor pick up seats to form government in this situation?

  14. Cud Chewer
    says:
    Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 10:42 pm
    I don’t see much to admire in Elon Musk and I don’t buy the “traded insults” line.
    _______________________________
    He’s more interesting than any other billionaire I have come across. And he smoked dope with Joe Rogan.

  15. The thing about the Stop Adani campaign is that it its a major issue for only a tiny proportion of the population. And all of these people vote Green and will continue to vote Green no matter what any Labor leader does.

    It reminds me of my (thankfully) former MP Lidia Thorpe’s byelection camapign. She had a massive focus on a Great Forest National Park. The thing is, Dan Andrews could have declared the entirety of the Central Highlands a national park and vowed to bulldoze Kyneton and the voters in Northcote who cared about the GFNP would still have voted Green.

    Much noise has been made, by Greens, about Labor’s position on the Carmichael mine being the cause for the defeat. Nonsense. And a nonsense made abundantly clear by the Greens’disatrous showing in the inner Melbourne divisions where “Stop Adani” was supposed to be such a big issue. Not to mention the catastrophe of the Batman byelection.

  16. Elon is hard working and clever. He’s also privileged and lucky. A billionaire who really doesn’t get how the other half lives and exploits his workers. Kudos for SpaceX. But yeah the smoking weed bit explains his delusional tendencies (especially Mars).

    Also..

    https://humantransit.org/2017/07/the-dangers-of-elite-projection.html

    Elite projection is the belief, among relatively fortunate and influential people, that what those people find convenient or attractive is good for the society as a whole.

  17. Point I’m making is that it isn’t just the making of renewable energy – its the using of renewable energy.

    Bingo.

    Forget the energy trilemma. We have a huge opportunity: The comparative advantages of our natural renewable endowments, providing jobs in well-paying industries, and embodying low-emissions materials (green steel, green aluminium, etc) = a renewable energy trifecta.

  18. Cud Chewer
    says:
    Saturday, December 7, 2019 at 11:32 pm
    Elon is hard working and clever. He’s also privileged and lucky. A billionaire who really doesn’t get how the other half lives and exploits his workers. Kudos for SpaceX. But yeah the smoking weed bit explains his delusional tendencies (especially Mars).
    _________________
    He might not be as accomplished as Bill Shorten but he’s going ok.

  19. 3z I agree. The Adani issue is over-rated by both sides.

    What fundamentally lost Labor the election was the pre-existing idea that Labor isn’t a good economic manager and the exploitation thereof. Labor was crazy putting forward its revenue raising measures well ahead of the election (something I approved of) but then not also putting forward major spending measures well ahead of the election. As I said, this takes the notion that Labor is “tax and spend” and turns it to Labor’s advantage – because only Labor had the revenue raising measures that would have allowed it to do some major reforms (health, ageing, housing, industry. Not to mention serious infrastructure like high speed rail). Had Labor gone out and said yes, we are raising taxes and then said but if you vote for us, you’ll get a bunch of good stuff, the Liberals would have been hard pressed to counter.

    There were also stupidities like being too complex on franking credits. All Labor had to do was to declare a cap on cash payments (make it $50,000 say) and then get into office and gradually regulate the figure downward.

    I see the Greens here constantly saying that Labor would have gotten more votes if it had been anti-Adani. Yes, it would have. But only in well educated, well off inner suburbs. In other words they’d have taken a chunk out of the Greens vote (is this what the Greens supporters here really want??). Otoh, had Labor gone anti-Adani rather than sitting on the fence it wouldn’t have lost as much oxygen when dealing with the media. Had Labor come up with a big-spending measure to appease central Queensland (remember only a few people are miners, most simply live off the mining industry and don’t necessarily care if its mining per-se, they just care about “jobs”) then I very much doubt it would have lost a slew of seats as some Labor people here claim.

    And for pity sake guys, for all the Labor-Green shit here (I’m essentially a Labor voter, but my principles are progressive and yes that does mean me agreeing with a lot of Green principles, if not actual policy). Where is all the vitriol directed at Clive Palmer? His ads alone probably tipped the election. That was far more important than Adani.

  20. Cud
    The ALP should have known the blue chips were entering a period of lower dividends then in its first or second budget then reformed the system without making it a preelection issue and it could have been sold as helping business to adjust for a more challenging economy.

  21. Cud Chewer

    Can you tell me what more Labor would have gained if we were anti the Carmichael mine?

    Which seat would we have won?

    The LNP were, decisively, able to play that the Greens Audi convoy would mean Labor would be dictated to by the Greens. A perception aided by Di Natale when he acually, literally said just that.

    We were lucky in Victoria when Ratnam did the same thing, declaring all the ministries the Greens would demand of a Labot government, that she was righrly ignored.

    Labor must, forever, disavow the Greems. No preference deals. No negotiations on legislation. Lock them out cold.

  22. I don’t think Labor would have gained being anti Adani. I also don’t think it would have lost Labor much either. The real problem was that Labor wasn’t prepared to simply throw money at the problem. If they had they could have actually gained votes in QLD overall.

  23. Beemer Labor has been playing someone else’s game for far too long. All the acrobatics they do pre-election to demonstrate they are “economically responsible”. Who does that convince? Certainly not the media and probably not most voters who frankly are barely tuned in and would be just as likely to not give a shit if they saw something in it for them personally.

  24. Qld lost a couple of Federal Regional seats because Morrison and the press hammered tax, tax, tax. Labor was not able to explain changes to franking credits particularly.

    No worker was going to vote for a party that was going to wipe out their industry whether they were paid $K40, $K140 or $k240. The Greens were so anti coal it was easy for the L/NP to create fear. Throw in Clive Palmer and his ravings and there was plenty of uncertainty.

    Along came PHON saying vote Coalition and that finished Labor federally in Regional areas . Hansen has still not apologized to Regional voters and small businesses for the billions in infrastructure projects that Labor was going to undertake that have now gone by the wayside. All the L/NP has been able to achieve with Hansons help is $B75 in corporate tax cuts.

    There is no money left. The budget surplus will not even catch up the delayed financing of the NDIS. The cost of any project ( drought assistance, MD reform etc) can only be paid for by cuts ( public service, robo welfare etc).

    Those mine workers in CQ are never going to agree to work in another city in the renewable energy sector. But if renewables reduce electricity costs so that manufacturing can expand in Australia, maybe their children and grandchildren can get a well paying trade job down the track.

    It would seem that mining involving emissions will wind down over the next 20 to 30 years no matter what any Govt around the world does. Those joining these industries now should understand they will not go on forever. Your bosses won’t even give you permanent work status, its contact or labour hire. They don’t want to have any responsibility for you when the inevitable happens. Save every dollar you can now, the axe may fall at any time.

  25. “Can you tell me what more Labor would have gained if we were anti the Carmichael mine?”

    ***

    Can you tell me what they would have gained from being pro-Adani instead? Because let me assure you, the handful of conservative seats in far-north QLD would have still voted conservatively even if Labor backed Adani 100%. These seats were conservative long before Adani was planned and they will probably still be conservative when Adani is a distant memory. That’s the reality that Labor has to face. You have sold out the environment for nothing. Don’t come here whinging about the Greens because we took a stand while Labor sat on the fence and achieved SFA.

  26. Good Morning

    But CIVICUS said “the most alarming deterioration in civic space [across the Pacific] is occurring in Australia, which has been downgraded from ‘open’ to ‘narrowed’”.

    Australia has seen the recent criminal justice examples of the prosecution of whistleblower Witness K, who exposed Australian bugging of ally East Timor’s cabinet room under the guise of a benevolent aid project, and the secret trial of Witness J, who was tried, convicted, and sentenced on national security charges in complete secrecy.

    Victoria police have also been condemned for using violence against protesters at a series of anti-mining demonstrations in Melbourne in October. A report from the Flemington and Kensington Legal Community Centre found police were antagonistic and “set a tone of violence” during three days of protests. Police sprayed demonstrators with capsicum spray excessively, were overzealous in using batons and drove police horses into protest lines to break them up, endangering animals and people

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/07/australias-civil-rights-rating-downgraded-as-report-finds-world-becoming-less-free

  27. Good morning everyone.

    I’m sorry I can’t fill in adequately for BK as frankly I can’t find much that hasn’t been already posted at the moment. It’s all about the fires, really.

  28. I see the Greens continue to fret. Their separation anxiety from Labor must really hurt.

    Frankly, Labor does not give a damn!

  29. GG

    Yes continue to pretend you are the LNP and watch Labor lose in Victoria too.

    Appealing to more voters does not mean copying the LNP agenda.

  30. “Liberal MPs have warned members and preselectors that the party’s next candidate for the seat of Warringah must support strong action on climate change and hold more progressive social views than predecessor Tony Abbott.”

    Then after the candidate wins (maybe) it’ll be back to toe the party line or else.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberals-insist-next-warringah-candidate-must-accept-climate-change-social-progress-20191204-p53gri.html

  31. Labor instead of obsessing over Adani and what the Greens say about it would do much better to concentrate on this.

    At what point can we say a plan has failed? How much longer are we to be subjected to the fallacious belief that a budget surplus is the best sign of strong economic management?

    This week the latest gross domestic product (GDP) figures were released, and they were, without any sugar coating, crap.

    The prime minister was reduced to arguing in parliament that they were good because annual growth has risen from 1.6% to 1.7%.

    One point seven per cent. Just ponder that figure for some while.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/dec/08/tax-cuts-fail-to-conjure-up-strong-economy-but-surplus-circus-rolls-on

  32. Good morning all. I hope all is well in the BK Household.

    https://www.smh.com.au/culture/celebrity/holiday-cheer-offers-a-glimpse-into-the-garden-of-murdoch-20191204-p53gv7.html

    Fellow media heir Ryan Stokes, son of billionaire media tycoon Kerry Stokes, was there with his wife Claire.

    Australia’s richest man, Anthony Pratt – with a reported net worth of $12.9 billion thanks to the world’s largest cardboard empire – was there, as was John Alexander, the highest paid executive at James Packer’s Crown Resorts, whose $4.7 million salary is no doubt sizably more than when he was Private Sydney’s boss at the former Fairfax Media.

    A pause while I back myself up the kickside for my oft repeated deleting of this post.

    Would any Poll Bludger who attended this soiree please post impressions, funny bits, delightful anecdotes etc.

    I, me, myself, personally (as we like to regularly say chez KayJay) could not attend, pleading a previous engagement (sneakily watching Adam Sandler* movies).

    Attempting to add a little “class” to the whole shooting shebang I now insert the regrets of a nation in mourning —

    But we in it shall be rememberèd—
    We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
    For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
    Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
    This day shall gentle his condition;
    And gentlemen in Straya now a-bed
    Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
    That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

    The above spoken in a hoarse, rasping voice echoing down the corridors of time from the birth of the universe to the here and now via countless pissups down the local boozer of a Saturday night.

    *https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/27/magazine/adam-sandler-movies-uncut-gems.html

    Sandler has the vibe of an older, married uncle, smirking and good-natured, though not nearly so zany as his onscreen persona. He’s not a natural self-mythologizer, but that day he kindly stepped up to the plate. He pointed at a Marx Brothers portrait on the wall. “These guys were my favorite,” he said. “My father would wake me up, and I’d get to watch, you know, ‘Duck Soup’ or ‘A Night at the Opera.’ ”

    Avid Poll Bludgers may/not recall that “A Night at the Opera” received a rapturous mention in these very pages a few days ago.

    Special Elephant Stamps and Gold Stars will be awarded to the first to identify a genuine human being in attendance at the above clambake.

    P.S. The Garden of Murdoch.

    ♫ I come to the ♪ garden alone
    ♪ while the ♫ dew is still on the ♪ roses,
    ♫ And the ♪ voice I hear ♫ falling on my ♪ ear,
    ♫♪♪♫♪♫ ♪

  33. The Donald doesn’t need toilets he has a long queue of sycophants who wait in line with their mouths open to ingest the shit he spews and craps out then call it manna from Trumpeaven.

  34. “Labor must, forever, disavow the Greens. No preference deals. No negotiations on legislation. Lock them out cold”

    And to think Gillard was praised for her negotiating skills.
    I remember Shanahan saying at the time it would cost Labor dearly in the long term. He was right.

  35. The Mayor of Townsville spoke yesterday and I think she knows her stuff, so I can say that, in her opinion, Labor lost the Central and North Queensland seats because there are a lot of people up there, and this includes Indigenous people in Cherbourg and on Palm Island, who are counting on that area in Queensland to the left of them, you know, the one all you woke southerners are obsessing over, to drag them and their families out of poverty.

    She told a really sad story about the levels of foetal alcohol syndrome up there and the levels of utter hopelessness among the people and how much they are counting on jobs.

    Frankly, I believed that the Hydrogen industry proposal for the area that Labor made was the best one but I was told that the people voted for the more immediate option, and very importantly, they sensed that Bill Shorten was wishy washy about it all and would end up bowing to The Greens.

    A lot of them, especially the ones who had voted Labor all their lives, couldn’t bring themselves to vote directly for the LNP, hence their vote in Queensland only going up marginally. So they cast an, ‘up yours!’ vote for Hanson or Palmer, who directed their preferences back to the LNP.

    These are the reluctant Queensland voters for protest parties that Labor must win back. And they are not averse to voting for Labor because the Mayor is Independent Labor and got a 58% PV at the last Council election compared with 20% for Labor at the federal election.

  36. Cat

    Labor must face the cold hard reality that voter perception of bowing to the Greens is in fact the LNP propaganda not the reality.

    In Queensland it is Labor that has the land clearing laws. Thats not going to change no matter what the Greens and Labor say about Adani.
    By the time of the next Federal election Adani will either be approved or not.

    As long as Labor buys the line from the LNP that it has to accept when the LNP agenda is and not be environmentally responsible it will keep losing. The LNP has done very well in convincing Labor there are no votes in standing up for the environment.

    Well done Labor. The environment is going to come last because you are scared the LNP are going to shout Greens Boo!!

  37. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/kerry-parnell-the-worst-ever-christmas-gifts-for-kids/news-story/695458fbd014a9ba9441a2c280c835dc

    I intend to go no further than 👇👇👇

    1. Bead sets

    “Oh lovely, a bead kit,” said no parent in the world ever. Those 4567 minuscule bits of brightly-coloured plastic will get used in the manner they were intended once, then be thrown over the floor every subsequent time.

    This will be the perfect gift – a must have for all occasions – for when the daughters, grand children and delight of delight (truly) – great great children of the four year old variety – arrive clothed in glory bearing cupcakes (hate em) and unwanted shirts.

    My clever plan will be to accidentally spill the much maligned beads the very moment the loved ones are safely inside the hacienda. This will keep the darlings busy until I unearth the partially completed jigsaw puzzle mouldering away and neglected since the last visit to keep the old fossil (moi) from dying from loneliness, feeling of neglect and dismay at his slip sliding away into incipient Alzheimer’s (•presenile dementia.
    •senile psychosis) or the like.

    My geezerism, old codger wrinklyness* now at a stage where I am to all intents and purposes invisible enables me to say all manner of loony tunes stuff while those within audio range are completely unable to see or hear a discordant note ♫♪ in the ether of blandness surrounding my force field which keeps me safe.

    *Some years ago – prior to the aforementioned slip sliding – a then favourite grandson – while examining my wife’s wrinkled arm – said.
    “You’re very, very, very old”.
    Turning to me and conducting a similar examination – he said
    “You’re very, very, very, very old”.

    Which engendered a warm feeling of pride as I could not recall a previous head of the river first place.

    Key of G folks –

    ♫It’s the most wonderful ♪time of the ♫ year
    ♪There’ll be much ♫ mistltoeing
    ♫And hearts will be ♪ glowing
    ♪When love ones ♫ are near

    P.S. For those who have not received an invitation to the Murdoch party – please fill and present yourself for the cleanup –

  38. And a very interesting observation was made yesterday. Bob Hawke would have, if he was PM now, been very, very angry at The Greens for picking on the Indian guy and his company who wants to open up the Galilee Basin for coal mining and not the White Australians who also happen to have mining leases up there. Despite the merits or otherwise of the mining. Those who knew Hawke intimately said he would have called out the covert racism inherent in the targeting of the Indian guy and his company.

  39. Cat

    Rave on about Adani all you like. Queensland Labor is not changing its land clearing laws.

    The LNP will use that to say Labor is bowing to the Greens. Recognise LNP propaganda for what it is. Until Labor does it will continue to be wedged by the LNP and bowing to the LNP agenda.

    Its Labor in government in Queensland not the Greens they are Labor laws but the LNP will say they are Labor bowing to the Greens just to stop Labor acting on the environment.

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