One sort-of-poll, and three items of Liberal preselection news:
• The latest results of the JWS Research True Issues survey records growing concern about the environment and climate change, which is now rated among the top five most important issues by 38% of respondents, compared with 33% in June and 31% a year ago. There is diminishing concern about immigration and border security (26%, down from 30% in June and 34% last November and defence, security and terrorism (18%, down from 20% in June and 29% a year ago). A range of measures of general optimism and perceptions of government performance produced weaker results than the June survey, which appeared to record a post-election spike in positive sentiment.
• Jim Molan will shortly return to the Senate after winning a party vote last weekend to fill the New South Wales Senate vacancy caused by Arthur Sinodinos’s resignation. Molan scored 321 votes to 260 for former state party director Richard Shields, adding a second silver medal to his collection after being shaded by Dave Sharma in Wentworth last year. This was despite Molan’s attempt to retain his seat from number four on the ticket at the May election by beseeching supporters to vote for him below the line, to the displeasure of some in the party (and still more of the Nationals, who would have been the losers if Molan had succeeded). Molan was reportedly able to secure moderate faction support due to the apprehension that he will not seek another term beyond the next election.
• The Victorian Liberal Party is embroiled in a dispute over a plan for preselection proceedings for the next federal election to start as soon as January, which has been endorsed by the party’s administrative committee but is bitterly opposed by affected federal MPs. The committee is determined not to see a repeat of the previous term, when preselections were taken out of the hands of branch members to head off a number of challenges to sitting members. Those challenges might now come to fruition, most notably a threat to Howard government veteran Kevin Andrews, whose seat of Menzies is of interest to Keith Wolahan, a barrister and former army officer. Tim Wilson in Goldstein and Russell Broadbent in Monash (formerly McMillan) have also been mentioned as potential targets. According to Rob Harris of The Age, votes in Liberal-held seats could happen as soon as late February, with marginal seats to unfold from April to August and Labor-held seats to be taken care of in October.
• Matthew Denholm of The Australian ($) reports Eric Abetz and his conservative supporters believe they have seen off a threat to his position at the top of the Liberals’ Tasmanian Senate ticket, following elections for the state party’s preselection committee. Abetz’s opponents believed he should make way for rising star Jonathan Duniam to head the ticket, and for the secure second seat to go to Wendy Askew, one of the Tasmanian Liberals’ limited retinue of women MPs.
lefty e @ #2299 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 1:55 pm
Yes, ‘fess linked to this at about 8.30 this morning. Well worth spending about 25 minutes watching it.
Link
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html?__twitter_impression=true
Dutton sued Frydenberg?
Lefty e
What c@t said
No, the worst thing in the Lieberals’ book is a Liberal Rat. They are more vindictive than Labor. In this case the ‘rat’ is named Oliver Yates. In the real world he is a principled man. You can see why Buce has nothing but contempt for him.
fred
Just so you don’t have to struggle with search engines:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/asias-powerhouse-fuels-global-surge-in-coal-use/news-story/036671a2882cacfec880d7b0fdd0d480
“ From January last year to June this year, countries outside China decreased their total coal power capacity by 8.1 gigawatts through steady retirements and an ongoing decline in the commissioning of new coal plants. But across the same period China increased its coal fleet by 42.9GW, and as a result the global coal fleet overall grew by 34.9GW.
In short, the increase in China’s coal-fired capacity across the 18-month period was equal to about eight times Australia’s total electricity capacity of 51GW.”
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/hungary-rules-out-treasurer-josh-frydenberg-as-citizen/news-story/f455ca99d65fea558110200d1b92eaca
“ The Hungarian government has confirmed Josh Frydenberg has no “established” claim to citizenship in new correspondence likely to damage a climate activist’s High Court challenge testing the Treasurer’s eligibility to sit in federal parliament.
The Weekend Australian understands Mr Frydenberg received a letter from the Hungarian Prime Minister’s Office this week ruling out dual-citizenship following searches of the central European nation’s records.”
I don’t know why we would worry about China – or anyone for that matter – building new coal-fired power stations.
The “three amigos” here on PB have assured us all that world coal demand is going to decline … any minute now ….
Bucephalus
The Australian?
You don’t read he Australian if you wan tot know what is going on.
https://chinapower.csis.org/energy-footprint/
I read The Australian, therefore I am misinformed. 🙂
Dandy
You may disagree with it but I do make cogent and sound argument as to why I think Warren will win the Democratic Nomination.
You will note I have said Johnson needs a clear majority to win the UK election and get his no deal Brexit.
I think these are as firm and cogent as you can get.
Just as I have said Adani has been turned into a symbol of Labor’s environmental policy. Just like tax and spend is the LNP and many pundits commentary on Labor and economic management.
With Adani I have only argued it’s environmental credentials at stake. Instead Labor should be backing its successful carbon price. Pointing out the rise of emissions since Labor was in power.
On the latter Albanese has listed what the government has done with the new party leader trend started by Jacinda Adern with a two minute listing of his view of the LNP. Emission rises was in there.
Mayor Pete tears Orange Crush a new one. His style reminds me of Kevin Rudd circa 2007.
https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1198032604664123392
Victoria @ #2302 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 11:00 am
Don’t forget Pompeo’s recent travels.
guytaur,
You would be well advised to heed the words here:
Note to moderator- I haven’t quoted this in its entirety and I do not have a link, my son sent it to me. 🙂
Confessions @ #2312 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 2:22 pm
And Barr.
Surely there’s no hint of a quid pro quo here?
Confessions
I think Buttigieg has the best chance of getting into the top tier. However don’t ignore the national polls. Biden may be Clinton 2.0 but remember that’s what we got in 2016 from the Democrats.
Sanders has a strong position. Just like Trump did. It’s just Sanders is the real deal not the con.
I think the Democrats won’t do as the GOP did. So I think eventually the Democrats will compromise and vote for Warren. I just don’t think Buttigieg will win if Biden does fail.
Apparently so do two Billionaires and Duvall.
Michael Moore who told us about those swing states disagrees with me and is backing Sanders.
I reckon ‘quid pro quo’ will be the ‘word’ of the year in 2020. 🙂
Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on Biden
Parnas was working to push a pair of unfounded claims: that Ukrainians interfered in the ’16 election on behalf of Democrats and that Biden was acting corruptly in Ukraine on behalf of his son Hunter. According to Parnas’s lawyer, Parnas said Nunes worked to push similar claims.
There is no evidence the Bidens acted inappropriately. Nor is there evidence that Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. Yet these claims have been a key part of the public defense of Trump put forth by Nunes and other Republicans during the impeachment hearings this month.
Parnas’s lawyer says Parnas is also willing to talk about a series of meetings he took part in at the Trump International Hotel in DC about Ukraine. claims he was part of a “team” which met several times a week in a private room on the second floor of the Trump Hotel.
The group, according to Parnas’s lawyer, included Rudy Giuliani, Lev Parnas, the journalist John Solomon, and the married attorneys Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html
Cat
Lots of words by someone who did not heed the lesson from the recent elections. Hopefully it continues to fool the GOP.
Sanders held a rally just before the Kentucky election.
The GOP tried using that bogeyman in that and the other November elections. Totally failed.
Anyone telling you Sanders and AOC will lose the election for the Democrats is therefore blowing smoke up your butt.
Edit: Thats like Labor winning elections in Queensland with Bob Brown and John Setka next to Bill Shorten at the campaign launch.
I was thinking of saying “this sounds a bit suss” but “quid pro quo” sounded much more appropriate in the current political environment!
guytaur,
Spoken like a true middle class boy who has probably never been out of inner city Sydney on a train to Mount Druitt in his life. 🙂
It seems Sanders is pulling ahead of Warren in the latest polls. I wasn’t sure if he’d recover after his heart attack, but perhaps that speaks to the strength of his messaging. I like how he spoke about criminal liability of the fossil fuel industry. Climate change is the main reason I’ve been following this after losing hope in Australia taking leadership
Cat
Spoken by the great deflector.
Go for the smear and discredit. The election results in Kentucky after Sanders held his rally there are crystal clear.
No matter how hard you try you can’t change those facts.
Labor and the LibNats doing the business for thermal coal exporters is as murderous as the GOP/Dems doing the business for the NRA.
Bonza.
Yes.
It’s fun to watch some Sanders supporters attacking Warren for being a sellout to corporate Democrats over Medicare. News to Billionaire’s I would think. 🙂
guytaur @ #2323 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 2:44 pm
Bernie Sanders won the election for the Democrats in Kentucky!?!
Lol. Now you are even making up your own ‘facts’. Though I think you’ve been doing that for quite a while. Then you pretend they are ‘facts’ as you constantly refer back to them.
guytaur,
There are none so blind as those who will not see how much of a bourgeoise tosser they are. The truth is probably more like most of Kentucky didn’t even know and didn’t even care that Bernie Sanders had a rally in their state, especially when it came time to cast their vote.
I thought you had grown up a little bit. Apparently not.
Bucephalus,
2 points:
1. “understands Mr Frydenberg received a letter” means the reporter didn’t see it. It’s just a press release. We are expected to take the word of a member of the Liars Party that such a letter, if it exists, has been reported correctly;
and
2. an ” “established” claim” whatever that is, doesn’t fully meet the requirements of S44 which talks about being “entitled to the rights or privileges of a subject or a citizen of a foreign power”. Entitlement, you see, not “established claim”.
That’s the trouble with using the Oz as a resource. You miss part of the story.
Cat
You are the blind one.
I did not pretend Sanders was running in the Democratic Campaign.
You keep up the deflection. It doesn’t change the facts.
I will repeat them for you.
Senator Sanders held a rally in Kentucky just before the election campaign.
The GOP used Sanders and AOC as the bogeyman.
The Democrats won the election in Kentucky.
Therefore it’s logical to conclude the scarey bogeyman failed to stop a Democrat win.
Edit: Note no nasty attacks to discredit you based on where you live or what you assume my income level is.
Bernie Sanders, AOC and Elizabeth Warren are political fetishes. Those that idolise them are political fetishists.
Maude Lynne,
Who went to visit with Viktor Orban in Hungary recently?
Tony Abbott.
‘Nuff said.
Bonza
This is the poll. It is the most recent one.
It’s still a statistical tie
http://emersonpolling.com/2019/11/21/november-national-poll-support-for-impeachment-declines-biden-and-sanders-lead-democratic-primary/
Warren doesn’t really support Medicare For All. Her policy is the same as Biden’s: to aim for a public option. She merely supports the slogan of Medicare For All. She has finally come out openly to say that she will only push for Medicare For All in the third year of her presidency. Remember that the party that controls the White House normally loses seats in the House and Senate in the mid-term elections. So she is saying that she will enact Medicare For All not at the start of her presidency, when the Democrats are likely to be at their strongest in the House and Senate, but two years later when Democrats are in a weaker position in the House and Senate. This signals clearly that Warren doesn’t care about Medicare For All.
citizen @ #2293 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 1:41 pm
I expect Labor will have a lot to say about this in the coming days.
No I don’t.
Why say it then?
Oh, I dunno, I can dream.
C@tmomma @ #2330 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 3:02 pm
Didn’t Kevin Andrews go as well?
ItzaDream @ #2334 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 3:17 pm
The 2 Catholic Amigos. 🙂
Cat
Good link; but when have once respected papers like the Australian printing rubbish; where does it all end.
“Sacha Baron Cohen: Facebook would have let Hitler buy ads for ‘final solution’”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=887&v=ymaWq5yZIYM&feature=emb_logo
EXPOSED: Paper trail between Pompeo, Giuliani and Trump revealed in State Department documents
The U.S. State Department has released thousands of pages of documents from a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requested by American Oversight. They are documents that Congress has demanded but the State Department refused to hand over, so American Oversight sued under the FOIA laws and was able to obtain the documents.
American Oversight @weareoversight
It’s clear why Mike Pompeo has refused to release this information to Congress.
It reveals a clear paper trail from Rudy Giuliani to the Oval Office to Secretary Pompeo to facilitate Giuliani’s smear campaign against a U.S. ambassador.
“If you look at these documents you can understand why Mike Pompeo wouldn’t want Congress to have them and why Congress has been complaining for the last two weeks that they haven’t received, [These] are basically his call sheets showing multiple phone conversations with Rudy Giuliani at what looks to be the beginning of this scheme to smear the ambassador.
We have other lawsuits already pending and soon more to come that are going to focus on different aspects of this scandal …..these are just the first disclosures, and for our first round to connect this scandal directly to the oval office is pretty significant.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/exposed-paper-trail-between-pompeo-giuliani-and-trump-revealed-in-state-department-documents/
Defecting Chinese spy who revealed espionage in Australia has ‘legitimate claim for asylum’, Labor says
Wang ‘William’ Liqiang reportedly gave statement to Asio detailing Chinese operations in Australia
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/nov/23/defecting-chinese-spy-who-revealed-espionage-in-australia-has-legitimate-claim-for-asylum-labor-says
phoenixRED,
Trump the propagandist is now going full bore with his latest conspiracy theory against the Democrats:
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/fbi-lawyer-suspected-of-altering-russia-probe-document-20191123-p53det.html
PhoenixRed
Yep. The receipts are on their way. Finally.
While you would be foolish to trust the polls too much these days, it does seem most likely that Jeremy Corbyn will lose the UK election. Given that his opponent is Boris “Buffoon” Johnson, this seems a little hard to believe, but this article may help explain why …
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/22/jeremy-corbyn-labour-neutral-second-brexit-vote
UK Labour seems not to have learned the lesson from AUS Labor’s election fiasco … i.e. that you don’t win elections by attempting to walk both sides of the street. Sometimes, it is better to pick a side … any side. At least it demonstrates you believe in something 🙁
Re Frydenberg the article in the Guardian is detailed and seems to conclusively show Frydenberg is in the clear regarding citizenship. Extensive searches were carried out and did not show his mother held Hungarian citizenship.
Surely PB’ers are happy to accept information published in the Guardian?
C@tmomma says: Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 3:37 pm
phoenixRED,
Victoria says: Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 3:37 pm
PhoenixRed
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Drip, Drip, Drip ……… another day, another scandal exposed …..
As American Oversight say – more to come – …..these are just the first disclosures, and for our first round to connect this scandal directly to the oval office is pretty significant.”
Davidwh
A rhetorical question, surely?
Hmmmm ….
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/22/potential-for-hydrogen-exports-exaggerated-by-factor-of-up-to-11-report-finds
Seems things are not always what they seem. Whoddathunkit?
Of course Peg. 🙂
Davidwh @ #2342 Saturday, November 23rd, 2019 – 3:45 pm
The only journalist I really trust is First Dog On The Moon …
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/22/are-australian-banks-and-businesses-free-to-do-whatever-they-want-it-certainly-feels-like-it
PhoenixRed
Still every chance mango Mussolini will resign before impeachment vote. But of course, it isn’t just about him, but all the presidents men and beyond.
Oh dear. Easy to be paranoid, but if Albo says the Chinese man may have a case for asylum, am I worried that Dutton’s immediate reaction will be to say no?
Victoria says: Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 3:57 pm
PhoenixRed
Still every chance mango Mussolini will resign before impeachment vote. But of course, it isn’t just about him, but all the presidents men and beyond.
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I am having a laugh at Trumps weekend schedule and twitter responses on Rick Wilsons
Still don’t know how he does it. Grueling schedule
He’s going to end up at Walter Reed if he keeps up this insane schedule
Busy weekend bribing senators and eating Big Macs.
SOTUS – Slacker of the United States
Five weeks and no golf?? Something is really wrong with his health
etc