As related by The Australian, the third Newspoll since the fall is unchanged on the second, conducted three weeks ago, in showing the Coalition with a two-party lead of 51-49. The primary votes are Coalition 43% (41.4% at the election), Labor 35% (33.4%), Greens 12% (10.4%) and One Nation 5% (3.1%, although they did not contest every seat at the election). All four are up a point compared with the previous poll, reflected in a four point drop in “others” to 5%. I’m struggling to identify the last time Newspoll had the Greens at 12% – certainly not at any point in the last term (UPDATE: It was in March 2016).
Scott Morrison is up a point on approval to 49%, after dropping three points last time, and his disapproval is up three to 39%, which is still three down on the first poll after the election. Anthony Albanese records a net negative rating for the first time, being down six on approval to 35% (after gaining two last time), and up six on disapproval to 40% (after dropping two last time). Morrison’s preferred prime minister lead is reportedly at 20%, compared with 18% last time, although the exact numbers are not yet provided (UPDATE: Morrison’s lead has increased from 48-30 to 48-28).
The poll comes with a glimmer of improved transparency, in that we are told exactly how many respondents came from its online survey (956) and automated phone poll (705) components. It was conducted from Thursday to Sunday.
D n M
Yes, it has to go to the House where the govt will do everything to delay it.
Just as with the Banking RC.
Thanks Psyclaw.
The only hope is for the MSM to get behind a campaign for an ICAC. Currently I would rate the chance of that at about 365/1 or worse.
Had to duck into a supermarket.
The Daily Telegraph had a story on the front cover about whose fault it is the Darling River is running dry. Apparently the discovery of Aboriginal heritage site is stopping the demolition of dams.
Just in case you thought there may be effects due to water theft and climate change …..
Psyclaw – you forgot the option of giving ICAC no teeth and zero funding.
I have started to watch a new Netfilx series “The Spy”which is based on the true story of Eli Cohen, an Israeli recruited to infiltrate the Syrian military prior to the six day war. The lead part is played by Sascha Baron Cohen who proves to be a very good actor in a serious role.
Firefox @ #191 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 1:36 pm
Are you a moron, or just like to give the impression that you are? Maybe you just have the memory of a goldfish?
Now, to refresh your short term memory…
1. Labor were the only party of government who took a policy of a Federal ICAC to the last election.
2. The Greens are not a party of government.
So, The Greens can virtue signal all they like but it’s only Labor that can do anything concrete about a Federal ICAC.
We might be generous and ask for Greens input though. If only The Greens would work to defeat the Coalition and stop taking pointless pot shots, like the one above, at Labor!
Zanetti must be tempted by that one.
Is Labor really a ‘party of Govt’ these days …?
Have to mute Richard Marles …no cred at all.
Scott Morrison wants the return of parliament this week to put a harsh spotlight on the contrast between a troubled Labor party and a “predictable” Coalition with policies based on values and beliefs says Jennifer Hewett.
https://outline.com/LkeZgf
I don’t think many would deny that the Coalition’s real values and beliefs are drearily predictable.
More seriously, one of the most insidious political memes of all is that the cons have “values and beliefs”, the real message, of course, being the unambiguous implication that nobody else does.
Labor and the Greens need to get onto this shit now, and stay on it real hard. Explicitly talking about and explaining their values and beliefs, every day. Not the policy details – though that has its place – but the underlying values and beliefs that drive their policy positions.
Rinse and repeat, ad nauseum.
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https://theaimn.com/lnp-welfare-card-true-facts-exposed-corruption-disguised-philanthropy
Corruption Inc.
Rex
No, you’re right, Labor isn’t. So that means, I assume, that we have to put up with Coalition governments for the next twenty to thirty years.
That will make you very happy, I’m sure.
…alternatively, of course, we could work to make sure that Labor is a party of government and that we have a functioning democracy, but where’s the fun in that?
ID
The comment about musicals being a deal breaker was a joke but I do hate musicals. My best man is an ICU consultant who loves Britney Spears and took a life sized cardboard model of her on a ward round.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/09/09/newspoll-polling-nate-silver/
I agree with Mr Atkins here. It’s been seeing to stand for one thing and doing another that is Labor’s problem.
Pick a side. Be consistent.
Diogenes
says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 2:35 pm
ID
The comment about musicals being a deal breaker was a joke but I do hate musicals. My best man is an ICU consultant who loves Britney Spears and took a life sized cardboard model of her on a ward round.
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Me too. I love her crazy ass.
zoomster @ #210 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 2:34 pm
When Labor stops being a party of a couple of large unions, perhaps they’ll deal themselves back in the game …?
Mark Butler had the right idea re the rank and file but others knew better apparently…
Zoomster
Rex is right. You can’t be for coal expansion by giving regulatory approval to new coal mines and a party that listens to the science.
It has to be one or the other. Myth peddled by deniers about future job creation is no way to base current regulation on the environment or native title.
Labor has been appalling on the opening up of the coal carbon bomb with the Adani gateway project.
It’s red line time.
Rich coal unionists should not be driving Labor policy.
Also don’t forget courts are starting to take that same science into account when approvals are being sought.
Interesting to see Mark Butler out and about demanding the labor review into the election loss be ruthless and leave no policy stone unturned.
I agree one hundred percent with his call and I hope the review looks very closely at his performance in his portfolio and the dogs breakfast of a climate policy for which he was responsible. As part of that there needs to be a very close look at why,in all things holy , apparently there was not substantial work done on presenting a articulate and straightforward argument to counter the very predictable government and media demands to “ come clean on the cost to the economy “ of the labor climate policy.
Day after day Shorten and others were like deer in the headlights being hit time and again with questions they either could or would not explain around this.
The climate policy did have good positive outcomes for both consumers and the environment but it was too broad and therefore open to open for attack from all sides. To make things even worse It was released too close to the campaign and any ” sell” had to rushed as a consequence. Because it was so broad, in the pressure cooker of a campaign and apparently without any tactical considerations to counter that it lacked a coherent, simple to understand narrative, was poorly articulated and lost any chance of being heard due to the lack of a well considered ready to go response to the obvious questions on cost. Whoever made the call that labor could get away with not having to explain the cost side of its climate policy needs a big kick up the arse.
Day after day labor was caught playing catch-up as the coalition and media tore holes in the policy ranging from “ labor refusing to be straight with Australians on cost “ to “ Shorten will take away your Ute and SVU “.
Too much noise and the positives were muted by the supposed negatives.
As the relevant shadow Butler needs to take a huge whack of responsibility for the failure.
I hope the review members listen closely to him and take his advice about being ruthless.
I see Rex Douglas is up to his old tricks trying to get Labor to disassociate themselves from the only remaining Unions that have any power over the Employers. Though he does give his affiliation away, as zoomster says, sagely, by his indication that de facto, the Coalition is the only lot who should be governing us.
Because The Greens sure as hell don’t have a shot until next century. At the earliest! 😆
Doyley
Any honest review will conclude that tax cuts and approving Adani were a bad idea.
Took a simple Tax the Rich Bastards and made it complicated.
A fact that “Top End of Town” had to be used instead of Tax the Rich or a Wealth Tax.
Remember it’s the KISS principle
Langer did a good job but does the coach really make much difference apart from selections? His bowling rotation policy worked well. But Smith won us the series.
Cat
Labor trying to be two things at once lost it the election.
We know voters saw Morrison as genuine. Genuine at what we don’t know.
However that’s what is keeping Labor out of power. Seen not to be real.
doyley @ #216 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 2:57 pm
As the CFMMEU rep on PB it’s good to see doyley nail their colours to the wall by targeting Butler who has seen the light re a few powerful unions directing policy, including the self-wedging coal policy, to the detriment of the environment and it’s wider society.
doyley has illustrated how important it is that the rank and file of Labor be given more power over policy.
The more power the rank and file have over climate policy the less chance unions like doyleys CFMMEU have of turning climate policy into a self-wedging hotch potch.
Doyley, I complained at the time about the way the better journos hammered Butler on costings. They argued it was their job to keep Butler and the ALP honest and ask the hard questions. Yet they must know that if Butler puts a $ figure on it, that will be the headline. It would be the only headline. ‘$$$$$$$$!’. ‘TAX!’.
The headline was never going to be ‘GDP benefits outweigh costs in solution to crisis’. Not ‘ALP has a plan, Coalition head in sand’. The good journos all let Morrison off the hook with his BS responses to climate questions. And they went in for the kill on Butler. This is the media environment we have. And it stinks.
Simon Katich @ #223 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 3:14 pm
Butler was handed a hotch potch of conflicting demands re climate/energy policy. He was put in an impossible position.
Butler has the best interests of the ALP at heart.
I can’t say the same for doyley and c@tmomma.
‘Diogenes says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 3:11 pm
Langer did a good job but does the coach really make much difference apart from selections? His bowling rotation policy worked well. But Smith won us the series.’
It is 2:1 with one match to go.
Doyley
Have a look at the wages of coal miners. Way above the average.
Rich workers who have become Liberal voters should not be deciding Labor policy.
It’s simple, folks – you’re allowed to take drugs if you’re employed.
It seems a strange message for the government to be sending out, but hey.
Zoomster
At least now we know why such opposition to harm minimisation like Pill Testing and decriminalisation of marijuana.
No stigma you can’t use it to demonise.
“I worked in advertising for 35 years. We were all well paid and highly skilled. We also took drugs, all of us. My drug of choice was and is alcohol (like Scomo) but cocaine and ecstasy was rife. These vacuous statements about ‘people on drugs’ are class-ridden, idiotic and cruel.”
She’s not wrong. One time we took the dog for a walk and saw a group of very well-dressed gentleman snorting blow in Centennial Park. Just a bit of coke before heading off to the races, no harm done. Nobody’s ever going to ask these guys to piss in a cup.
Amy Remeikis proves a wonderful service in filtering QT and all that she finds is partisan abuse from Morrison and Frydenberg.
If EVER Leigh Sales has a job to do it’s tonight when she interviews Morrison. She can press for all the answers he and Frydenberg shamelessly avoided about the state of the economy in QT today.
Yeah, last night was just one test win. Still a lot to play for.
BK
In the immortal words of the Castle.
You’re Dreamin
Or That goes straight to the pool room.
Edit: it would be a good day for Sales to pull a sickie and have Laura Tingle as the host.
Simon K.
Labor should have known how the media would react. It should have been very clear right from the day the policy package was finally released.
The media was always going to attack labor. Butler and labor should have been very well prepared to counter the attacks. Campaigning 101.
The fact they were not is simply gobsmacking. A huge fail from both Butler and the labor campaign team.
Cheers.
zoomster
“It’s simple, folks – you’re allowed to take drugs if you’re employed.”
For some professions, illicit drugs are almost compulsory.
Simon Katich says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 3:34 pm
It is 2:1 with one match to go.
Yeah, last night was just one test win. Still a lot to play for.
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Cricket is such a privileged white boy sport as your photo shows.
Douglas and Milko @ #203 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 2:10 pm
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/anger-as-floodwater-lost-to-farmers-10-years-after-dams-should-have-been-removed/news-story/126a511fda8f8e360d7e049ec921c5ac
Well cut off my legs and call me Shortie ❗
Read it if you must. I’m off to continue a Dean Koontz series of novels where a central pillar has the FBI, CIA, Gummint involved in a plan that turns selected citizens into commandable zombies.
Of course to we Orstrayans, inured to years of this program (which started in Federal Parliament – where most, of not all MP’s have already been zombified, take this sort of conduct with “so what’s new” attitude.
Hint – I never for a minute thought that water theft, corruption and/or climate change had anything to do with dry rivers. 🚿😇
guytaur,
The review committee will hopefully listen to all those with skin the game from caucus members, candidates to the huge number of volunteers on the ground.
To preempt the results of the review is pointless especially from the outside looking in. With all due respect you have no idea what the review will find. Neither do I.
I simply hope it is deep, broad and, as Butler demands, ruthless.
A PV of 33.34% is diabolical and business as usual will achieve nothing except years more in opposition.
Cheers.
There is a brown boy in there somewhere.
If you have popcorn you might want to watch A Current Affair. They are advertising violent scuffle in Liberal party caught on camera
There’s nothing to play for now. Even Warner might make some runs with no pressure on. The test we lost was purely because Smith was injured.
Has Chris Kenny said something sensible?
Bangladesh are currently playing a test against Afghanistan. Plenty of brown there. And these brown boys whipped us earlier in the year.
Diogenes @ #211 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 2:35 pm
Well, there’s a joke or two in there, along the good news / bad news genre.
doyley
From the outside and it’s not the first time Labor has heard it. Being genuine is important.
Be real and genuine on climate change. Labor lost genuine on this issue when Rudd backed down from his greatest moral challenge.
Labor got genuine credit on Marriage Equality because of legislation changes when in power.
Stop Adani. Back the Carbon Price. Genuine consistent policy. Like Marriage Equality Labor will be forgiven lapses along the path.
Get real and win.
‘Simon Katich says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 2:24 pm
Apparently the discovery of Aboriginal heritage site is stopping the demolition of dams.’
This make a curious contrast to the normal story which is that the water shortage is caused by the lack of dams.
BK @ #229 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 3:30 pm
It worked last time, so I guess their motto is, ‘When you’re on a good thing, stick to it.’
‘lizzie says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 3:47 pm
Has Chris Kenny said something sensible?
Sky News Australia
1h
Sky News host Chris Kenny says it’s hard to comprehend how ‘such a precious life force as water could be held and traded like bars of gold, silver or bitcoins’. #KennyReport’
Kenny would not apply this logic to the supply of capital, labour, raw materials such as coal or any other commodity.
We haven’t seen anything yet, BTW. The price for permanent high security water rights in the MDB is still only a third of that for similar water in California.
They are all wrong. It is hipster beards, smashed avocados and ristrettos.