As related by The Australian, the third Newspoll since the fall is unchanged on the second, conducted three weeks ago, in showing the Coalition with a two-party lead of 51-49. The primary votes are Coalition 43% (41.4% at the election), Labor 35% (33.4%), Greens 12% (10.4%) and One Nation 5% (3.1%, although they did not contest every seat at the election). All four are up a point compared with the previous poll, reflected in a four point drop in “others” to 5%. I’m struggling to identify the last time Newspoll had the Greens at 12% – certainly not at any point in the last term (UPDATE: It was in March 2016).
Scott Morrison is up a point on approval to 49%, after dropping three points last time, and his disapproval is up three to 39%, which is still three down on the first poll after the election. Anthony Albanese records a net negative rating for the first time, being down six on approval to 35% (after gaining two last time), and up six on disapproval to 40% (after dropping two last time). Morrison’s preferred prime minister lead is reportedly at 20%, compared with 18% last time, although the exact numbers are not yet provided (UPDATE: Morrison’s lead has increased from 48-30 to 48-28).
The poll comes with a glimmer of improved transparency, in that we are told exactly how many respondents came from its online survey (956) and automated phone poll (705) components. It was conducted from Thursday to Sunday.
Strange how Mavis has suddenly gone silent.
nath @ #986 Tuesday, September 10th, 2019 – 8:08 pm
Don’t forget a Federal ICAC. That’s been a Greens policy for a decade or more. Up until Labor discovered voters wanted one as well, they voted against it in Parliament with their Liberal mates….. how many times was it?
Dan G:
I am under no illusions that Never Trump Republicans like Wilson and the rest of them won’t resort to opposing Democrats if Trump is defeated. Of course they will.
But Trump needs to go.
I think we can take that as a “No” from Mavis, a bullshitter to the last.
There’s also $2.6 billion into Qld per annum, on 2014-15 data, from the Wet Tropics Rainforests, and over 13,000 direct and indirect jobs. The Wet Tropics Authority calculating another $2.6 billion at least for indirect ecological services per year as well.
The GBR and Wet Tropics are directly and indirectly some of the biggest employers of science and research jobs in Qld too. Less than 2% were employed in all mining in the area of the Wet Tropics 2014-15 report, more than 4.5% in science or technical services.
These forests represent millions of year old refugia, of Gondwanan ecosystems far older than any human existence as we know it. Then thousands of years of Aboriginal occupation. They contain 40% of Australia’s birds and a unique array of mammal, insect, amphibian and plant life.
A choice between some nong selling Galilee coal and BS, or having the Wet Tropics and GBR for now and into the future is one of life’s easier decisions to make. I’m sure many Qlders, Australians and people around the world would choose the same, rainforest and GBR over any more coal. Seems the Wet Tropics and GBR bring more to Qld per year than coal in jobs and income to boot.
Bushfire Bill says:
[/Welcome back, BB. I do trust you’re going to behave to hereinbefore form?
Still need you to prove your PB antecedents Mavis, the ones you bragged about so loudly.
I proved mine: September 8, 2007.
Until then, eff off.’]
Please stop it BB. I posted some thirteen ago on this site. But it matters not; you’re as only as good as your last post – in your case, they are pretty slack, sexist. Get over your pomposity. I retired elven year ago. Your obnoxious, nasty posts are indicative of why you hate your self.
@Lizzie, from 5.23pm
Thanks so much for posting this. The lunch order once a week or so is so important for kids, as is the ability to go on the excursions, and buy secondhand school clothes.
I travel a lot for work, and so my daughter and her son (my grandson) are now living with us. Her marriage broke up a couple of years ago, with the young ones’s father “gone a droving and we don’t know where he are”. Sad, but they are both doing well, and when I am home, we share the care of the young one. Daughter is using time rent-free to get post-grad qualifications important for her career.
So, I am now thrust back into the school drop-off and pick-up, seeing the disapproving looks from other parents and carers because the youngster is absent-minded, and gets his clothes grubby, and his shirt is never tucked in. And, the shoe laces, always undone and trailing in the ground.
But, for us, it is not a problem. We have the money for lunch orders and excursions, and also to buy new school shirts when the stain remover no longer works. The other children and teachers notice this financial ability of ours, and forgive the other things.
It would be horrible to not be able to afford the excursions, and the occasional lunch order.
Also, I was shocked, shocked I tell you, at how expensive Napisan soaking shit is these days!
W,
I’m a respondent to the campaigning by the Greens. Their campaigns have prevented meaningful action being taken on the environment. They have facilitated the attacks against Labor – and against unions and the rights and dignity of working people – by the Liberals. Their campaigns are not about policy. They are aimed at improving the position of Green politicians at the expense of social justice and the environment.
The Greens are splitters. As long as reformist opinion is split nothing much of enduring value will be achieved for working people in this country. This is the nuts and bolts of it.
Quoll…..A choice between some nong selling Galilee coal and BS, or having the Wet Tropics and GBR for now and into the future is one of life’s easier decisions to make.
Such a choice does not exist. This is a politically-confected mirage.
The proposition that the choice is between Queensland coal and global heating is just false. If only it were so simple. Alas, it’s not.
Mavis,
As you can see I am catching up.
I think Labor really does need to wait for the results of the review before coming out swinging. There are many opinions out there at the moment as to why Labor lost, but we need some measured analysis of what went wrong before deciding which issues to die in a ditch over.
Some may find this surprising, but there are many complicated issues facing the World and Australia in our turbulent times, and a nuanced policy response is needed.
I have a question. Is the ALP supporting the religious discrimination bill? Do they realise that it applies to pharmacies and health care workers who will be able to ‘conscientiously object’ to helping somebody based on the patient’s sexual preference?
The SMH is reporting this. Is it true?
If so and the ALP is supporting the bill, I think they should stop worrying about the coal mining seats and look to their inner city blue ribbon seats.
I have been thinking deeply about politics in this country after the federal election in May. I believe Labor lost, because it was not radical enough. If Labor had a platform like that politicians such as Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez or Jeremy Corbyn are arguing for. I believe Labor would have won narrowly. Because it would have rallied the Millennials and Generation Zers who would have formed a literal army who would have actively campaigned and hustled for the Labor Party. This would have counted the very right-wing media in this country, with News Corporation outlets now being far-right in their politics.
Because Australia is a very progressive nation in my opinion, apart from when it comes to environmental issues. An example; would be the results of the Same Sex Marriage plebiscite, with the only electorates which voted strongly for No are a lot of immigrants from countries much more conservative than ours. Indeed, our political class are much more conservative on average than the population. Australia compared to America has pretty much a consensus when it comes to issues such as Queer rights, Marriage and Gender Equality, along with Reproductive rights.
When it comes to economic issues, a considerable majority of Australians want public ownership of electricity, railways, public transport and water companies. Not to mention public ownership of hospitals and a NHS style health care system for Australia.
^ Agree with you, Tristo.
The ALP seem to think they need to be Coliation-lite to win elections, which leaves people wondering what they actually stand for. Losing elections seems to make them double-down on this. In contrast, the Coalition seldom try to appear Labor-lite.
@Mr Newbie
Thanks for your opinions, as I see it the Australian Labor Party has been on a losing position since Tampa and 911. When as I saw it Labor literally capitulated to the legislation made in the name of ‘national security’ that John Howard introduced, which started Australia on this road to become a police state. Greg Barns book “Rise of the Right: The war on Australia’s liberal values” is a must read on what I have discussed above.
Bolton booted. I’m amazed that he didn’t manage to start at least one war in the short time he was with Trump.
The world is a safer place with warmonger Bolton booted. Grudging hat tip to Dotard, who recognising his stupid decision to employ Bomb ‘em Bolton, showed a smidgin of commonsense by boning him.
Can’t say I think much of Bolton’s replacement…
Variations on this get posted here all the time, but it makes no sense at all to me.
It assumes that (a) there is a large cohort of swinging voters who seriously think about politics and political positioning, when all the evidence is that this group of low-engagement voters try their very best not to be informed of politics at all, and (b) having (not) seriously thought about the political positioning of the major parties these voters don’t care about the actual policies, the valuation of these voters is just whether the parties seem more “committed” to something that is inherently intangible.
This makes no sense to me – people who are engaged in politics have picked their sides, the people who are disengaged don’t pay enough attention to the actual policies/platforms to judge them; the actual policies and platforms don’t seem to matter, and radicality/commitment to ideals (whose ideals?) don’t even enter the picture.
The vibe appears to be what matters now, not the platform. Perhaps a leader who can make a good running on some part of the platform that captures the public imagination (what that could be in 2022 I have no idea, and I’ve seen no one propose credible options – I don’t believe climate change action is such right now given the broken politics and media and the recent result; obviously that may change as time passes).
Yes, going radical might provide an opportunity to capture the vibe and win, with a charismatic, skilled political leader – but that’s incredibly difficult to do now in the age of isolated social media bubble communities, and it also makes you very easy to target with scare campaigns. The Libs and their many media friends are very good at turning pretty much anything into a scare campaign, and that kills your vibe stone dead – winning on being radical requires capturing and holding a majority of the population’s attention, but with scare campaigns shaving off voters with niggles about retiree taxes, or stolen utes, or gender fluidity promotion, or abortion for everyone or death taxes or … whatever.
The actual evidence (from 1983 and 2007) is that Labor wins from opposition when it doesn’t set out a radical agenda (and a leader who campaigns well and captures some sort of zeitgeist doesn’t hurt, nor “it’s time” factors of course). Of course things change over time, but where is the evidence that the electorate is craving more radicality, more commitment to something (that the posters who put this idea forward seem to want to be environment/climate change/socialist ideals)?
The Coalition keeps winning on obviously dodgy platforms that are, in fact, “Labor lite” – Abbott’s “no cuts to health, education, the ABC”, Morrison winning off of a policy/agenda vacuum just promising stability and some sort of return to Howard’s budget nirvana but still promising to ‘meet our climate commitments in a canter’ and ‘record spending on education’. The coalition win by lying and giving just enough solace for peoples’ niggling environmental/social consciences to reassure them that they don’t need to vote for those awful Labor/Greens types who will steal their utes and eat their grandmothers.
There is a lot of wishful thinking and projection being promoted as solid analysis on here.
I knew the Morrison government were engaging in a concerted bout of ‘lies,lies and damned statistics’ with their push to get the Indue slush fund card spread far and wide:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/cashless-welfare-card-trial-not-working-drug-and-alcohol-centre-says-20190910-p52pv5.html
For those interested in electric cars, this reveal by Volkswagen at Frankfurt is significant..
‘Volkswagen has rolled out the final version of its first affordable long-range electric car, the ID.3, at the 2019 Frankfurt Motor Show. Coming in at “under €30,000” (about $33,180, currently), the ID.3 will come in three variants that offer between roughly 205 and 340 miles of range. The EV is slated to be delivered in mid-2020.’
https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/9/20857217/volkswagen-vw-id3-electric-price-specs-mile-range-frankfurt-motor-show-2019
Well said, Jackol.
I remember years ago, handing out on election day, and the Green volunteer said that he couldn’t vote Labor because we’d moved too far to the right.
I asked him to give an example.
He thought for a moment, then said he couldn’t, but that everyone knew it was true….
I bet what Jackol sagely said won’t stop the usual pie-in-the-sky suspects from demanding this, that and the other thing unrealistically of Labor.
Donald Trump fires another!
https://amp.smh.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-fires-national-security-adviser-john-bolton-20190911-p52q15.html
Zoidlord @ #1022 Wednesday, September 11th, 2019 – 5:16 am
#ETTD
Is it actually illegal to fire staff in America like this I wonder if someone is gonna pull the trigger for class action？
Morning all. Climate change is real and Qld coal is a major cause. But it is self interest, not lack of information that drives denial. This article highlights how that is happening at an international level. Time to give up on Kyoto’s failed multi-lateralism and tariff products of countries with high emissions.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/29/russia-china-climate-change-1691698
John Bolton is one of Washington’s madder hawks. Makes the President look sane.
Socrates
Good morning. The sooner embedded emissions are tariffed, the better, IMO.
Bolton booted is the best news for ages.
My guess is that he would have rooted vigorously for additional troops in Afghanistan and war with Iran, neither of which suit Trump at all.
Socrates
Thanks for link. V. interesting. One of the corollaries of the Arctic becoming the new freight super highway between Asia and Europe is that Australia become an even more distant strategic point from where the action is.
When the Suez Canal was built Capetown became vastly less important, strategically.
C@tmomma @ #1015 Wednesday, September 11th, 2019 – 6:23 am
He started a war within the white House!
Steve no one is more insane than three stooges
The high school equivalent of passing notes at recess.
zoomster
says:
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 7:05 am
Well said, Jackol.
I remember years ago, handing out on election day, and the Green volunteer said that he couldn’t vote Labor because we’d moved too far to the right.
I asked him to give an example.
He thought for a moment, then said he couldn’t, but that everyone knew it was true….
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He should have asked you for an example where the ALP hadn’t moved to the right.
Briefly is it your position that any criticism or questioning of Labor’s policies are inherently illegitimate? Or is that only true when it’s coming from another political party? You can call the Greens splitters but the real problem is that Labor has only been able to establish an internal factional peace by placing the conservative, capitalist, Tory-imitating Right faction in a positon of permanent and unbreakable hegemony.
If people didn’t want to vote in protest (safely due to preferential voting) against this intellectually bankrupt and morally corrupted right-wing outfit, the Greens would have no support. As it happens, the Australian system is a multiparty democracy with a proportionally representative senate and preferential voting which makes the existence of the Greens inevitable.
With pubic criticism not permissible within the Labor party, there is public demand for an organized force in Australian politics putting forward an alternative left wing vision (and I know you’ll say that they’re just doing it to “hurt Labor” but what you’re actually saying is that Labor should be above criticism no matter what they do). Of course you want to shoot the messenger but al of your arguments against the Greens rest upon the ad homonim that they are so malign that it’s beneath you to even engage beyond the level of name calling. That may satisfy your sense of moral superiority but it makes for a very dull, very stupid and very useless political conversation.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2019/sep/10/trump-news-today-latest-economy-north-carolina-republicans-live
Will Morrison be at the helm as the LNP policyless Indue government takes us toward the precipice, long on promises, hoping for Howard’s luck or will we fall before Labor is called upon by a deceive and misled public, to right the settings and govern for a sustainable future?
It’s funny ppl don’t want to vote for labor but they got worse Government instead.
This is called hypercrits
Watermelon
You’re seasonal, come along with the same watery insides and the hide like a rhinoceros.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Chris Uhlmann reckons that for the first time in more than a decade politics has become boring again.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/scott-morrison-understands-normal-people-want-a-boring-government-20190910-p52pqz.html
Scott Morrison has proved he can ape John Howard, but he’ll also need the former PM’s luck says Paul Bongiorno.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/09/09/scott-morrison-john-howard-2/
The PM’s simplistic opinion that keeping Newstart low gives people have an incentive to work actually has the opposite effect writes economist Angela Jackson.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/yes-the-best-form-of-welfare-is-a-job-but-20190910-p52ptr.html
Shane Wright says the Reserve Bank’s efforts to power the economy aren’t going to plan. All the money’s going into the housing market. He concludes by saying the RBA’s plan to use lower interest rates to get the economy motoring along does require governments – local, state and federal – doing their part. Otherwise, we’re just going to end up with more expensive housing, bigger mortgages, more debt and even larger long-term problems.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/reserve-bank-s-efforts-to-power-the-economy-aren-t-going-to-plan-20190910-p52pps.html
And fewer younger Australians now own their own home than 50 years ago, as more low-income households find themselves in rental stress.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6376735/housing-affordability-dives-for-younger-australians/?cs=14225
Huw White writes, “For years our leaders have told us that we do not have to choose between the United States and China. But what if that’s wrong? What should Australia do if we are forced to make a choice between our main ally and our leading economic partner?”
https://outline.com/qMFvf7
Australian politicians are failing the nation by ignoring the advice of experts, former Treasury secretary Ken Henry has claimed, warning large numbers of people could miss out on a job because of their deliberate ignorance. Ouch!
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6376982/a-case-study-in-government-failure-ken-henry-excoriates-politicians-warns-future-jobs-at-risk/?cs=14350
Doug Dingwall writes that according to a former public service commissioner a “master-servant” relationship has emerged between ministers and public servants, while some senior bureaucrats are going too far in pleasing governments and supporting their agenda.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6376380/ministers-have-master-servant-relationship-with-public-servants-former-aps-commissioner/?cs=14350
Health insurance premiums could rise more than expected next year after health insurers claimed they would have to recover the cost of a surge in benefits paid for medical devices. It seems Hunt’s medical deals come back to bite him.
https://outline.com/7g4Hxy
Idiot Trump has fired warmonger John Bolton. That’s the third national security advisor he’s selected and “lost”.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-fires-national-security-adviser-john-bolton-20190911-p52q15.html
The editorial in The Guardian declares good riddance to Bolton, but the problem is his boss!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/10/the-guardian-view-on-john-bolton-good-riddance-but-the-problem-is-his-boss
Rob Harris writes that Federal Liberal MP Gladys Liu says three times that she “cannot recall” whether she was a member of Beijing-linked groups.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/liberal-mp-gladys-liu-denies-links-to-chinese-government-20190910-p52q0l.html
A drug and alcohol treatment centre on the front line of the federal government’s cashless welfare card trial says the program is not reducing substance abuse. Over to you Zed!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/cashless-welfare-card-trial-not-working-drug-and-alcohol-centre-says-20190910-p52pv5.html
David Crowe reports that Bill Shorten has declared the party will “learn the lessons” of defeat in a crucial election review to prepare for the next ballot, admitting changes were “inevitable” in the rethink of the party’s direction and policies.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/albanese-prepares-for-substantial-rethink-of-labor-policies-20190910-p52pvl.html
Almost 30 per cent of patients are waiting too long for treatment across NSW’s emergency departments writes Rachael Klun.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/emergency-wait-times-increase-across-nsw-hospitals-20190910-p52prs.html
Jennifer Hewett reports that TPG and Vodafone are challenging the ACCC in what will be a crucial test of competition law – and Rod Sims’ judgment.
https://outline.com/xkrsBL
According to Michaela Whitbourn at the ICAC hearing former NSW Labor MP Ernest Wong summoned the employee of a property developer to a secret meeting in state Parliament where he took the man’s mobile phone before encouraging him to lie to the Electoral Commission about a political donation.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/he-took-my-mobile-icac-hears-former-labor-mp-summoned-donor-to-secret-meeting-20190910-p52psf.html
Department of the environment officials were acutely sensitive about meeting Angus Taylor over critically endangered grasslands while his family’s company was being investigated for alleged illegal land clearing in New South Wales, according to internal emails.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/environment-officials-wary-of-angus-taylor-grasslands-meeting-emails-show
Equality advocates fear the religious discrimination bill could increase discrimination against LGBTIQ+ people in the health system, and “set us back 20 years” writes Judith Ireland. BTW has anyone actually explained why this bill is required?
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/this-will-drive-people-back-into-the-closet-lgbtiq-warning-on-religious-discrimination-bill-20190910-p52ppz.html
A series of raids on journalists by the Australian Federal Police has tarnished Australia’s standing on the world stage, the chair of the ABC Ita Buttrose says.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/sep/10/ita-buttrose-says-media-raids-have-tarnished-australias-reputation
Australia’s political lobbying regime is broken and needs urgent reform writes politics lecturer George Rennie.
https://theconversation.com/australias-political-lobbying-regime-is-broken-and-needs-urgent-reform-123003
The latest data shows the trade war with the US is biting into China’s economy. The Chinese authorities are responding cautiously explains Stephen Bartholomeusz.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/china-s-already-in-pain-and-that-s-before-the-latest-trump-tariffs-20190910-p52pst.html
The AFR tells us that as Scott Morrison prepares for a White House state dinner, Canberra’s top NY envoy Alastair Walton has delivered a thundering critique of America’s debt and deficit woe.
https://outline.com/bYFz92
Borrowers have regained their mojo after sitting on the sidelines for 18 months as house prices fell, and first home buyers are leading the charge says Elizabeth Knight.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/borrowers-don-t-care-about-bank-lending-rules-they-just-want-a-loan-20190910-p52pvx.html
Colin Kruger explains how prominent lawyer and company director Philip Crutchfield, QC, has criticised the “unrealistic” expectations placed on modern company directors, saying it deters people from taking on board roles.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/dangerously-wrong-top-lawyer-hits-out-at-unrealistic-expectations-on-directors-20190910-p52pvq.html
The latest report card on Australia’s greenhouse gas production is the same old news: emissions are up again. We’ve heard it before, but the news should never stop being confronting as Angus Taylor spins his gas ‘solution’.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/angus-taylor-spins-gas-solution-as-emissions-continue-to-rise,13092
David Scott outlines how Donald Trump has helped to spawn a whole new field of research, namely analysing the impact of his Twitter feed on markets.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/trump-s-market-moving-tweets-have-created-a-new-field-of-financial-analysis-20190910-p52pq5.html
The Guardian says that MPs looking to stop a no deal Brexit are exploring ways to bring back a version of Theresa May’s Brexit deal plus a vote on a second referendum in the last two weeks of October, amid concerns Boris Johnson will still try to pursue a no-deal departure.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/10/mps-look-to-bring-back-mays-brexit-deal-with-vote-on-referendum
How Bunnings plans to meet the challenge of US giant Amazon.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2019/09/10/bunnings-threat-amazon-hardware/
It seems investment in renewable energy projects across Australia has “slowed dramatically” after a record-breaking two years, prompting fresh concerns over power affordability and reliability ahead of the eventual closure of coal-fired generators.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/investors-cooling-on-renewable-energy-projects-amid-policy-uncertainty-20190910-p52psr.html
Yesterday the National Rifle Association sued San Francisco over the city’s recent declaration that the gun-rights lobby is a “domestic terrorist organization”.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/10/nra-san-francisco-domestic-terrorist-lawsuit
The Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, today put an end to democracy in the nation writes Dave Donovan.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/britain-cancels-democracy-experiment,13093
Cartoon Corner
Cathy Wilcox on the government’s attitude to climate change.
David Rowe gets right to the point.
Some great poetry from Mark David.
Fiona Katauskas and the elevation of Jacqui Lambie.
Also from Zanetti.
John Shakespeare and drug testing.
Andrew Dyson and the Australian dream.
From Matt Golding
Zanetti’s right back in the groove here!
David Rowe farewells Danny Frawley.
Jon Kudelka at the Centrelink front desk.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/8e84c09d0179a778203a4373bac1a58e?width=1024
From the US
Bolton was hired to rattle a few cages and project an image that Trump was tough and prepared to go to war if he didn’t win whatever argument he’d started. Trump’s negotiating style is to talk tough and then fold. He’s fundamentally an isolationist and not interested in devoting manpower and resources to foreign conflicts.
Bolton is an imperialist warrior. Trump has changed his tactics and Bolton was surplus to requirements.
All I want for Christmas…..
https://www.theguardian.com/news/gallery/2019/sep/10/a-trump-rally-fracking-protest-tuesdays-best-photos
‘Chris Uhlmann reckons that for the first time in more than a decade politics has become boring again.’
Hey Chris, the economy is going down the toilet.
How boring is that.
W….I’m really just concerned to establish that the Greens are a Labor-hostile outfit. Your post is a perfect illustration of this hostility. We get it. We know the Greens basically detest Labor. We are not on the same page and we never will be. This should be reflected in Labor campaigns.
Socrates says:
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 7:29 am
Morning all. Climate change is real and Qld coal is a major cause.
Socrates, climate change is real. Emissions from Queensland thermal coal exports make up 0.18% of global GHG emissions. In what possible sense is 0.18% a ‘major cause’?
The claim is a fiction – a fiction written, produced, directed by and starring the Greens.
briefly
You have exactly quoted the LNP line.
The point is, whether Australia takes responsibility for its own damage to the environment, or whether it uses careful maths to pretend it has no responsibility at all.
I can’t read The Australian. Does anyone have any more details on this?
Australia’s minister responsible for drought and natural disasters, David Littleproud, has said that he doesn’t “know if climate change is manmade”.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/10/david-littleproud-australian-minister-disaster-climate-change-man-made
He has joined the ranks of the ignorati!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-09-11/government-appears-unprepared-for-climate-change/11492886?pfmredir=sm
I’m really just concerned to establish that the Greens are a Labor-hostile outfit. Your post is a perfect illustration of this hostility. We get it. We know the Greens basically detest Labor.
Well, congratulations on establishing that the Greens are a separate political party. Pollbludger commends you for this wonderful insight that you deliver many times daily. One day you might offer a constructive suggestion for how to deal with this problem that goes beyond the senile repetition of how much you dislike it.
I am not a Green and I am not hostile to Labor. I am hostile to rightwing policies, and I’m hostile to the rightwing factional apparatus inside Labor that is ideologically opposed to left values. As long as Labor are putting forward rightwing policies I will think that criticism is fair and warranted.
To give an example of where your Party loyalty is taking you, how about you take this statement:
Emissions from Queensland thermal coal exports make up 0.18% of global GHG emissions. In what possible sense is 0.18% a ‘major cause’?
Now replace “Queensland thermal coal exports” with “Australia” and that percentage with a slightly larger one. Congratulations, you are now a qualified to work for the Murdoch media.