As related by The Australian, the third Newspoll since the fall is unchanged on the second, conducted three weeks ago, in showing the Coalition with a two-party lead of 51-49. The primary votes are Coalition 43% (41.4% at the election), Labor 35% (33.4%), Greens 12% (10.4%) and One Nation 5% (3.1%, although they did not contest every seat at the election). All four are up a point compared with the previous poll, reflected in a four point drop in “others” to 5%. I’m struggling to identify the last time Newspoll had the Greens at 12% – certainly not at any point in the last term (UPDATE: It was in March 2016).
Scott Morrison is up a point on approval to 49%, after dropping three points last time, and his disapproval is up three to 39%, which is still three down on the first poll after the election. Anthony Albanese records a net negative rating for the first time, being down six on approval to 35% (after gaining two last time), and up six on disapproval to 40% (after dropping two last time). Morrison’s preferred prime minister lead is reportedly at 20%, compared with 18% last time, although the exact numbers are not yet provided (UPDATE: Morrison’s lead has increased from 48-30 to 48-28).
The poll comes with a glimmer of improved transparency, in that we are told exactly how many respondents came from its online survey (956) and automated phone poll (705) components. It was conducted from Thursday to Sunday.
“If John Setka doesn’t resign then those laws will pass. There is no room there for anything else. It is about time the meathead woke up to himself and realise the position he is placing people in.”
Lambie doing Albo a favour.
Cat
Election results were clear. You don’t have a leg to stand on about the Greens. William has had to correct on the denigration some posters try and put on the results on this blog.
@mashable tweets
This is the most intense gaming display we’ve ever seen https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1170825892060266497/video/1
Tony Abbott won’t be playing this one.
@AnaDApuzzo
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Sep 6
A Dutch museum wanted to encourage people to visit their exhibitions. They brought a Rembrandt painting to life in a shopping mall. This is incredible! Take a look.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1169661683251519489
https://twitter.com/tommyxtopher/status/1170691614366470146
Diogenes says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:25 am
So we’re making laws targeting one individual now!
lizzie,
I’d add to that observation that older people are more willing to accept a moderate wage just so they can get the job over a younger person who has more calls on their money at their stage of life.
There’s always a tweet!
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #57 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:37 am
When it’s one individual versus the whole Union movement whose side do you take?
@PhilipThalis tweets
Every day, car numbers entering City Centre has fallen by an average of almost 8%, compared with 2015.
Change to motorists’ habits has led @cityofsydney to propose keeping closed several traffic lanes, which were originally to be reopened when the light rail line was completed. https://twitter.com/rsepsot/status/1170814511617458176
@rsepsot tweets
Fewer cars in Sydney CBD opens way for cycleway, more pedestrian space https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/fewer-cars-in-sydney-cbd-opens-way-for-cycleway-more-pedestrian-space-20190904-p52nw3.html
Morrison’s lead has increased from 48-30 to 48-28).
Early days yet, but it’ll go something like this.
It’s all good!
Albo will wear him down.
The punters aren’t that stupid.
Scrotty is toast.
These numbers can’t be right.
Albo is the one.
Nobody would vote for Morrison.
etc……
More Moir:
Once again the Coalition is succeeding in perpetrating a massive distraction. The media are mostly complicit (e.g. see Zanetti cartoon) or they’ve taken the bait (e.g. the ABC).
The problem is this: the economy does not provide enough jobs. It isn’t that unemployed people are taking drugs or whatever.
The Government is unable to address the real problem, in fact it probably doesn’t want to. Hence the need to distract and deflect blame.
@KarenMMiddleton tweets
Heaven forbid. There should be a law against it…. https://twitter.com/CAugustElliott/status/1170731112743587840
@CAugustElliott tweets
Imagine that? Investigative journos trying to find stuff out. https://twitter.com/erictrump/status/1170065011634581504
lizzie @ #42 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 7:32 am
Steve777 @ #64 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:44 am
The new Labor team is all over it…..oh, wait..
Steve777
The PM and other ministers keep telling us that we are wrong about unemployment because they have created xxx thousand jobs since xxx and more people are in jobs then ever before.
Are we (the media) being blindsided by selected statistics or outright fabrications? I have assumed that all higher figures are the result of population growth anyway, but I’m not a smart economist/statistician/LNP MP.
Thanks BK for the Dawn Patrol.
Over and out. ☕ ☮
Why does this mundo character concentrate on personal approval ratings when the headline poll figure remains unchanged?
Rhetorical question.
@MatthewRWade tweets
Victoria’s public servants would be able to ditch work to attend the upcoming climate strike without getting in trouble under a motion put forward by the @VictorianGreens
https://www.standard.net.au/story/6373512/greens-want-victorians-to-climate-strike/?cs=10264
Your move Labor. To use media speak the Greens have given you a test.
@deniseshrivell tweets
Newstart + cashless welfare #indue card = Morrison’s zero suicide aim was an intentional lie #auspol @BreakfastNews
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2019/sep/09/parliament-returns-coalition-labor-morrison-albanese-politics-live?CMP=share_btn_tw
C@tmomma says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 8:38 am
Don’t lose sight of what’s happening here.
I’m sure the Government’s motives have little to do with Setka and more about creating a stick that they can use against all Unions.
Please Labor don’t forget to say Pensioners are next for the Indue card. You too will have the humiliation of the loss of control over your own finance.
So much for the party of free choice.
Lizzie “…they have created xxx thousand jobs since xxx and more people are in jobs then ever before.”
When I see absolute numbers quoted I am suspicious. They usually mean very little and are often put out to decieve, not inform.
“Jobs created” is one such number. Australia’s population is a bit over 25 million, increasing at a rate of about 1.5% per annum. About half the population is in the work force.
This means that the economy needs to create 1.5% of 12.5 million ≈ 188,000 jobs per annum to prevent unemployment from rising. For example, 1 million new jobs in 5 years is barely treading water.
That’s before we get to the fact that the Government is not ‘creating’ any jobs.
lizzie
Thanks. Great link.
More deal breaker than deal maker. And predictably Republicans are silent on his negotiations with the Taliban.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/09/08/trump-proves-hes-better-dealbreaker-than-dealmaker-this-time-with-taliban/
Guytaur “So much for the party of free choice.”
“Choice” is a right wing code word. It means giving more power to money (and those who have / control it).
It’s comments like these my the Labor “base”- that result in Labor not winning elections.
guytaur @ #48 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 8:12 am
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #72 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 9:01 am
Which is EXACTLY why I support Lambie blocking the legislation if she achieves the departure most reasonable people want.
Steve
I know. Still use it against them. Break the code for voters who are under the delusion of what that means.
Just like as has been done with the nickname Freedom Boy for Tim Wilson.
Is Scotty really going to rename his PM airplane Shark One? 😮
Steve777 @ #77 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 9:09 am
guytaur doesn’t realise how close he is to the Right. His feelpinions enable the Right ultimately due to his attempts to destabilise Labor with his constant attacks on them.
I’m sure that the Liberal-Newscorp Dirt Unit has been busy examining John Steka’s background, looking for a killer blow. It would appear that they’ve found nothing we don’t already know otherwise we’d have heard about it.
John Setka is another distraction. If he has broken Labor or Union rules, let Labor or the CFMEU deal with it. If he has broken the law, let the Police and Courts deal with it. There’s far more important stuff going on, not least the ongoing attacks on workers and the unemployed by a vicious reight wing Government.
Confessions @ #81 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 9:15 am
In an equally populist move, will he get Greg Norman to cut the ribbon when a Great White gets painted on its side? 😐
Cat
You don’t realise how close you are to the right. Your defence of the rich is appalling. Every time the corporate establishment is under threat you jump to their defence.
Thats you with the delusion. Thats what happens with ignoring my post about breaking the right wing code. Tell voters what it means. You are defending the right wing code and protecting the right.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/sep/08/jennifer-gunter-gynaecologist-womens-health-bodies-myths-and-medicine
C@t:
*groans* I can just seen him doing that too!
Brilliant, almost, Freudian slip, Steve777. The Reich Wing government has a certain ring to it. 🙂
Though, to your point about Setka, my position is that the greater good is served by Lambie blocking the Ensuring Integrity legislation, which, if enacted, would see Setka and the CFFMMEU gone anyway. I would rather the CFFMMEU survives and Setka does not. If it comes down to a binary choice.
From the Guardian blog
By Michael Griffin
The Liberal National Party (‘LNP’) Welfare Card programme is really a LNP rort for the benefit of the Liberal and National Parties and their members, donors and supporters. Indue Pty Ltd, the corporation awarded the contract to manage the Welfare Card programme and to operate its underlying systems, is a corporation owned by Liberal and National Party members and that donates to various Liberal and National Party branches around Australia. The former chairman of Indue is none other than former LNP MP Larry Anthony who is the son of former Liberal Country Party Deputy Prime Minister Doug Anthony. Anthony now holds his shares in Indue in his corporate family trust managed by Illalangi Pty Ltd. Other companies now owned by Larry Anthony, or by the corporate trustee of his family trust, Illalangi Pty Ltd, work under ‘sub’ contracts for Indue itself and make their profits from dealings with Indue in the course of Indue performing its contracts with the LNP Government. These corporations are SAS Consulting Group Pty Ltd – a political lobbying group that counts Indue as a client – and Unidap Solutions Pty Ltd – a digital IT services corporation that provides Indue, as well as the current LNP Government directly, with various IT services. Larry Anthony is also current president of the National Party of Australia, that is, the ‘N’ in ‘LNP’.
https://theaimn.com/lnp-welfare-card-true-facts-exposed-corruption-disguised-philanthropy/
@tmomma says:
Monday, September 9, 2019 at 9:11 am
So, why would you be willing to accept the legislation if Setka doesn’t quit?
Confessions @ #87 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 9:22 am
Scott Morrison is a creature of marketing. With the emphasis on creature. 😐
Barney in Tanjung Bunga @ #90 Monday, September 9th, 2019 – 9:26 am
I never said that. I accept Lambie blocking the legislation. I want the legislation blocked.
Now that Sen. J Lambie has joined ON and the LNP in kicking some of our most defenceless Australians by extending the LNP’s Indue Welfare Card to all NewStarters, it’s time we took a moment to thank each of these unemployed people.
NewStarters (aka fellow Australians who, despite actively, and provably, looking for non-existent jobs, have been unable to get even two hours paid employment in a fortnight) are ESSENTIAL to keep wages down.
The RBA’s optimum unemployment rate is not zero, not even the 3% Menzies regarded as desirable, but 4.5% unemployed.
That’s 600,000 fellow Australians who can’t find any work, despite applying for multiple positions every day (as if that disheartening process is not torture enough). Once you stop looking you are not counted as “unemployed”.
Why is 4.5% the RBA optimum?
Why because they are worried any lower may cause a ‘wages breakout’. It may even mean employers may have to offer decent wages and conditions to retain staff, and upset the Gov’ts backers.
So spare a thought for the unemployed, who selflessly continue to apply for non-existent jobs in order to prop up our miserable economy, for they will soon have to flash their new Cashless Welfare Card in select shops.
It will give non-cardholders people to look down upon, and, with their air of superiority, mock and call bludgers.
Which means it is working.
How very Christian of our leaders.
What Lambie is doing seems vaguely illegal.
If the cashless welfare cards force recipients to certain retailers will this have the effect of minimising the opportunity to shop for specials from those outfits not accepting the cards?
As an independent Green voter (not a member / thoroughly disillusioned with party politics) these ongoing battles do seem awfully internecine, pointless, and hence thoroughly political. Makes me wonder why most of you persist.
Politically speaking obviously Labor know there is some value in keeping the Greens at arms length. The same goes for the Greens continually trying to sidle up to Labor.
The Greens win over ALP voters by exposing repeated and deepening differences between the voters personal ethics, and the stance of the ALP. Let’s call it the argument of the heart.
The ALP win over Greens voters by appealing to unity, and presenting the argument that their approach of centrist incrementalism is actually electable from time-to-time, and whilst the returns may be smaller than those with the Greens, that they’re a far less risky investment for your vote. The argument of the head.
Clearly the Greens approach Federally is to keep doing what they’re doing, and get a repeat performance at the next election, so 12 Senators. Low risk, and in many ways they’ll likely do well if the ALP keep Albanese through to the next election.
And the ALP approach is obviously small target, let the government wear the blame for the economic downturn, stay disciplined. Similarly low-risk, but of course the risk increases as long as Albanese fails to cut through.
I know most here like to focus laser-like on the minutiae and myriad grievances, but both parties are following textbook low-risk strategies. No-one here is going to get me or most other Greens to vote 1 ALP, and no-ones going to get Briefly or most others to vote Green.
So we get back to the ‘Why?’, the honest answer is that most of you are here because you enjoy the arguments and trolling the other side. I realised this as an abject waste of time years ago, and decided to devote my limited time between parenting and lawyering to working with more, shall we say, ‘direct action’ groups.
Neither the ALP nor the Greens are the solution; one or more likely both of them are perhaps vehicles to just part of a political solution, but that’s the limit. Is it really worth all your time and effort?
Indue makes a federal ICAC OVERdue!
https://theaimn.com/lnp-welfare-card-true-facts-exposed-corruption-disguised-philanthropy/
Have the media been issued info by the LNP that tries to bully Lambie into agreeing? Her presser this morning does not tally with yesterday’s headline.
She’s a loose cannon, but I wish both houses had a few more Jaquie Lambies (and Ricky Muir – whose speech to Parliament re: proposed retirement age of 70 and restrictions on access to welfare should be re-read every time the LNP tries to punish those on welfare) holding the balance of power. Greens and Labor are nearly all upper middle class (especially the Greens), and having someone who can ask “How’s this going to effect those doing it hardest?” – and know what it is like to be that person is really healthy for our democracy.