Newspoll’s no-show this week suggests last fortnight’s poll may not have portended a return to the familiar schedule. Amid a general post-election psephological malaise, there is at least the following to relate:
• The great pollster failure was the subject of a two-parter by Bernard Keane in Crikey yesterday, one part examining the methodological nuts and bolts, the other the influence of polling on journalism and political culture.
• Richard Willingham of the ABC reports former Corangamite MP Sarah Henderson is having a harder-than-expected time securing Liberal preselection to replace Mitch Fifield in the Senate, despite backing from Scott Morrison, Josh Frydenberg and Michael Kroger. According to the report, some of Henderson’s backers concede that Greg Mirabella, former state party vice-president and the husband of Sophie Mirabella, may have the edge.
• The Joint Standing Committee on Electoral Matters has invited submissions for its regular inquiry into the 2019 election, which will be accepted until Friday, September 2019. Queensland LNP Senator James McGrath continues to chair the committee, which consists of five Coalition, two Labor and one Greens member.
• Daniella White of the Canberra Times reports Labor is struggling to find candidates for next October’s Australian Capital Territory election, said by “some insiders” to reflect pessimism about the government’s chances of extending its reign to a sixth term.
• The Federation Press has published a second edition of the most heavily thumbed tome in my psephological library, Graeme Orr’s The Law of Politics: Election, Parties and Money in Australia. A good deal of water has passed under the bridge since the first edition in 2010, most notably in relation to Section 44, which now accounts for the better part of half a chapter.
P1, it’s trange how otherwise intelligent people simply don’t get the urgency of the crisis that faces us.
lizzie @ #1499 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 12:21 pm
I’d say it was the taxpayers. The Liberals practice Political Socialism.
adrian @ #1500 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 12:28 pm
It happens to be the complete and utter shite a majority of voters love. 😐
adrian @ #1504 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 12:31 pm
You can’t be intelligent if you don’t get the urgency.
Rex D
I know intelligent people who are still “uncertain” about it. No point in arguing.
lizzie @ #1508 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 12:54 pm
Where’s the sense in dismissing the scientific data ..?
Where is the intelligence in acting without thought?
Rex
Someone who moves across the country (or down) finds the weather/climate different and simply thinks it’s because they’ve moved house. There are others who are simply not environmentally aware, or too busy earning money, or dealing with personal tragedy. Others who think that everything in the media is untrue anyway.
Barney in Makassar @ #1510 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:11 pm
A trait common in LibNat and Labor partisans when approaching the ballot booth.
lizzie @ #1511 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:12 pm
Ignorance is no excuse.
RexD
I see you have tolerance for those who don’t think the same as you. Sorry about that.
Edit: no tolerance.
lizzie @ #1514 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:19 pm
It’s in everyones great personal interest to not be ignorant of climate heating.
Rex Douglas says:
Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 1:13 pm
How so?
Everyone has their reasons and priorities in how they vote.
Nearly 20% of Green voters prefer the L&NP who want to extend the life of existing coal plants and build new ones.
C@tmomma @ #1503 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 12:45 pm
Maybe, but that doesn’t make it any less shite.
Barney in Makassar @ #1516 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:21 pm
Perhaps those voters are economic conservatives who prioritize the need to first address climate heating ..?
Rex Douglas says:
Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 1:25 pm
So, how does that make them any different from any other voter?
I think it’s time I groomed my poodle. 😉
adrian @ #1501 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 12:31 pm
And it’s also strange how many of them just happen to be dependent on the fossil fuel industry 🙁
lizzie
That was a pretty lame set of excuses. If anyone gave you those as reasons then unless they are ignorant/stupid they are bullshitting you. Busy being “shy tories” as it were when it comes to climate change and our role in causing it.
lizzie says:
Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 1:28 pm
Sorry! 🙂
Probably time to go buy a new guitar. Bye!
lizzie @ #1520 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:28 pm
Just don’t dress it up in costumes, ok.
Barney in Makassar @ #1519 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:27 pm
They’re not voting 1 LibNat or 1 Labor …?
Will Trump send aid convoys to Britain?
citizen @ #1523 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:36 pm
And he’ll charge twice the going rate.
poroti
People like us can’t believe that there are those who just aren’t interested. Was that 20%?
Rex Douglas says:
Sunday, August 18, 2019 at 1:35 pm
So none, but their vote for the Greens is so important to them that they give their preference to a Party who in Government has wound back action on climate change as opposed to one that has actually implemented such action. 🙂
Barney in Makassar @ #1529 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 1:50 pm
If more LibNat and Labor partisans put the Greens on top, do you think we’d get action on climate heating ..?
lizzie,
You are spot on with your last few posts.
The majority of “ normal” Australians are just not interested in politics or much else apart from making ends meet on a daily basis. Right or not that is the way it is.
Posters need to get into their brains that the mad political tragics here ( myself included ) are not normal. The rest of Australia does not dive into the entrails of daily politics like us. They have other things on their minds.
Simply assuming a superior attitude and looking down on the “ mob” from the political mountain top with disdain simply serves no purpose. A number of posters need to realise that and move on from demanding the Australian voter do this, do that, accept a particular view and ignore everything else and accusing those who do not meet their high standards of being idiots etc etc.
The real world beckons.
doyley @ #1531 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:02 pm
” The majority of “ normal” Australians are just not interested in politics..”
My opinion is that is the result of appalling politics by the two major parties.
The people need a genuine leader to engage them with sincerity of good intentions for our communities.
doyley
Thank you. 🙂
I am someone who has been worried about the rape of the environment since I was 10 yrs old. Unfortunately it hasn’t done me much good!
lizzie @ #1533 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:08 pm
If that is the major concern of Labor and LibNat partisans then a change of #1 preference is required.
As Russia’s Democrat candidate I’m tipping Tulsi Gabbard to run as an independent candidate to siphon votes away from the Democrat and help re-elect Trump.
The issue was essentially ignored in the Hughes review. No wonder his brother is still furious.
I listened to a normally awesome podcast of the days events and they completely failed to grasp the fundamental point that BB is stating. Instead they eloquently reviewed the day in awe of the contest and the spectacle. FFS. You extend this further and you can use the same reasoning to defend hunger games.
No, bouncers should not be banned. They are an essential tool in the bowlers box of tricks. It is essential because otherwise a batsmen can plan his footwork which will lose the balance between bat and ball under the current format.
HOwever, It is not essential to have bouncers for a spectacle. Intimidation to the point of real risk of injury or worse is not essential to the game.
A renewed effort by the administrators must occur to come up with a new set of rules that allows bouncers to continue but to a far lesser extent. Less bouncers = lower risk.
And here’s some research to support Tom’s thoughts:
http://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/surveys/2019-02-26-independent-candidate-survey/
Rex D
You seem to be arguing with yourself.
lizzie @ #1538 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:22 pm
Then I win the argument !
Rex Douglas @ #1536 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:28 pm
And you also lose. Same-same.
Rex Douglas @ #1531 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:10 pm
Yeah right. 😐
Player One @ #1540 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:29 pm
😆
C@tmomma @ #1541 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:29 pm
It’s true !
Rex,
Most definitely, no!
They’re no where near forming a Government.
While if Labor had formed the Government, yes!
Greg Jericho has just taken a good swipe at science deniers and their boosters in the conservative media.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2019/aug/18/accepting-anecdotes-more-readily-than-climate-science-is-wilful-ignorance
BK @ #1545 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:34 pm
Smart cookie is Grog.
BK
That was such a good article I couldn’t decide the best bit for an extract!
My new guitar sounds lovely.
Pity I’m still crap.
Anyway it’s fun! 😆
BiM,
Practice makes perfect. Some have to practice more than others. 😉
Rex D
I should be offended at your implication that I have been Lib/Lab same/same all my life (wot? for over 60 years??) but I’m too tired to be bothered. Taking offence is for hotheads.
lizzie @ #1550 Sunday, August 18th, 2019 – 2:39 pm
That wasn’t my implication though.
Thanks for that article BK. I remember that story in the Oz, as well as another similar story but that time featuring someone who’d been surfing at a local beach for years and hadn’t noticed any rising sea levels.
Now how will this work ?
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Danish bank launches world’s first negative interest rate mortgage
Jyske Bank will effectively pay borrowers 0.5% a year to take out a loan
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