Federal election preference flows

New figures from the AEC confirm the Coalition’s share of Hanson and Palmer preferences was approaching two-thirds, a dramatic increase on past form.

We now have as much in the way of results out of the federal election as we’re ever going to, with the Australian Electoral Commission finally publishing preference flow by party data. The table below offers a summary and how it compares with the last two election. They confirm that YouGov Galaxy/Newspoll was actually too conservative in giving the Coalition 60% of preferences from One Nation and the United Australia Party, with the actual flow for both parties being nearly identical at just over 65%.

The United Australia Party preference flow to the Coalition was very substantially stronger than the 53.7% recorded by the Palmer United Party in 2013, despite its how-to-vote cards directing preferences to the Coalition on both occasions. A result is also listed for Palmer United in 2016, but it is important to read these numbers in conjunction with the column recording the relevant party’s vote share at the election, which in this case was next to zero (it only contested one lower house seat, and barely registered there). Greens preferences did nothing out of the ordinary, being slightly stronger to Labor than in 2016 and slightly weaker than in 2013.

The combined “others” flow to the Coalition rose from 50.8% to 53.6%, largely reflecting the much smaller footprint of the Nick Xenophon Team/Centre Alliance, whose preferences in 2016 split 60-40 to Labor. This also contributes to the smaller share for “others”, with both figures being closer to where they were in 2013. “Inter-Coalition” refers to where there were both Liberal and Nationals candidates in a seat, some of whose preferences will have flowed to Labor rather than each other. The “share” result in this case records the combined Coalition vote in such seats as a share of the national formal vote.

While we’re here, note the blog’s other two recent posts: Adrian Beaumont’s account of Brecon & Radnorshire by-election, and my own in-depth review of the legal challenges against the election of Josh Frydenberg in Kooyong and Gladys Liu in Chisholm.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,440 comments on “Federal election preference flows”

  1. I suspect that Trumps little tariff war with China is not doing Trump’s vote any harm. It will also help bring the US budget under control. I reckon he might get a second term.

    With the cancellation of the nuclear treaty with Russia it looks like MAD is back on the agenda. I suppose there are a few that don’t know what MAD stood for.

    The scariest thing, 1984 might not be the year but it is coming to pass. Google and facebook own the telescreen.

    The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely.

    Please remember:

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength
    If thought can corrupt language, language can corrupt thought.

    I suspect Putin, Morrison, Trump, Xi Jinping and Johnson all understand.

    The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”

    George didn’t get it all right, a couple need updating.

    The best web sites are those that tell you what you want to know (books, they are the things that sit on shelves and turn to dust-HG Wells Time Machine).
    Control the narrative and you control the future. ( you don’t need the past, people forget).

    For those that have not read 1984, a book that makes Nostradamus look like an cooky salesman:


    I suspect Briefly has the strongest grip on reality. We are fucked.

  2. lizzie @ #1 Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 – 7:10 am


    [Given how disconnected policy is from scientific reality in this country, an urgent and pragmatic national conversation is now essential. Other-wise, living on a destabilised planet is the terrible truth that we will all face.]

    However did we come to be ruled by a bunch of backward-thinking, narrow-minded fools? How good is that!

    Sheer blind luck. I suspect alien intervention by a lizardlike band of planet hopping shape shifting psychologists using we pseudo humans as subjects in order to test the limits of stupidity. The working title of the experiment is “Compulsory dickheadedness in the form of voting for your own extermination – the great attraction and the link to chocolate”.
    Whew. Better get up and put the kettle on.

  3. However did we come to be ruled by a bunch of backward-thinking, narrow-minded fools? How good is that!

    Amusing to contemplate that people voted in horror at the prospect of a ‘Death Tax Scare’ but not in horror at the prospect of their species own imminent (in the next century or so), demise via Global Heating?

  4. Michael Pascoe @MichaelPascoe01
    There’s no “unfunded empathy” for the unemployed, but funded delight for any number of stunts, from National nuclear fantasy to another statue of Cook.

  5. C@

    As I’ve said before, part of the problem is that politicians who accept climate change is real have jumped straight to the solutions, when a lot of people still don’t understand the nature of the problem.

    Barnaby Joyce took the trouble to wander around the country ‘educating’ people to believe climate change isn’t real. No politician from the other side has bothered to put the ‘yes’ case.

    Of course, it shouldn’t all be left to politicians – but if you want people to go with you, they have to understand why they should.

  6. nath

    But what would it be worth? The standard you’ve set is that you apologise one day and then repeat the same slur the next, so you obviously don’t think apologies mean anything.

  7. zoomster
    Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:00 am
    But what would it be worth? The standard you’ve set is that you apologise one day and then repeat the same slur the next, so you obviously don’t think apologies mean anything.
    Only you could still be worked up over #selfiegate

  8. nath @ #7 Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 – 7:58 am

    when can I expect that apology C@t? You claimed that I had said some terrible things. I think it’s only fair.

    No apology. I just realised that I probably won’t be able to find the offensive comment any more because Mr Bowe deleted it. Hence your confidently standing up on your hind legs demanding an apology. You’re a cunning one, I’ll give you that.

  9. Good morning Dawn Patrollers. I’ll be back soon with Part 2. The animals need feeding.

    A brilliant contribution here from Peter Hartcher demanding a federal ICAC.
    Meanwhile Fairfax-Lite reveals that another key junket partner in casino giant Crown Resorts’ high-stakes Chinese gambling business allegedly led a violent organised crime racket smashed by Chinese police.
    Nick Toscano and Nick McKenzie go inside the Crown Casino boiler room.
    RBA governor Phillip Lowe has a pretty good idea on why the old rules of macro-economics are not working so well any more writes Ross Gittins. Not a happy experience reading this.
    The SMH reveals that a small group of private certifiers have signed off on 130 buildings with compliance problems, including allowing residents to move into one property that did not have toilets or taps fitted. Surely this deserves jail time!
    Extraordinary claims including a bag containing tens of thousands of dollars in cash was delivered to NSW Labor Party’s headquarters to evade the state’s donation laws are set to be exposed in a fresh corruption inquiry later this month. This looks crook.
    Peter Fitzsimons wonders where the outrage over fate of the other Folau is. Suddenly, a strange and awkward – if amusing – silence settles on the land, he says.
    Former ASIC chairman Greg Medcraft warns a decline in auditing could be the next black swan event.
    Crispin Hull writes that Australia is facing its biggest trade change in half a century.
    Adele Ferguson writes that time’s up for NAB’s Ken Henry but also for the billion-dollar audit club.
    The SMH editorial accuses the critics of the NSW abortion bill of putting up a smokescreen.
    And Kate Aubusson reports that legal and medical experts have rubbished a “scare campaign” from religious leaders and conservative MPs claiming a new bill to decriminalise pregnancy terminations would lead to “open slather” late-term abortions.
    One of the firms handpicked by the NSW government to bid to rebuild the stadium says they are not interested. I wonder why.
    Meanwhile in Melbourne The Age reports that creaking noises louder than a vacuum cleaner that disturbed residents through the night at a Southbank highrise were caused by incorrect building techniques, a report reveals.
    The Prima Pearl tower was built by Multiplex, which is now dealing with complaints from residents about loud cracking and creaking noises in a new building, the yet-to-be completed Australia 108 tower in Southbank.
    Elizabeth Farrelly applies the blowtorch to the NSW government.
    Elizabeth Knight examines the buy now pay later groups that are popping up like mushrooms and disrupting the banks.
    Dana McCauley reports that the nurses’ union has moved to distance itself from the militant CFMMEU, appealing to the Senate crossbench to spare its “respectful” campaigns for patient safety from a union crackdown aimed at bringing the John Setkas of the movement to heel.
    Benjamin Priess says now that Melbourne’s major recycling firm SKM has collapsed, trashing the recycling programs of more than 30 councils along with the jobs of hundreds of workers, it’s time for every household in the state to face the truth.
    Julie Szego says that as loyal subjects of the Crown, we can expect our rightful status in the mother country to be restored after Brexit.
    Nick Miller tells us that an electorate where sheep vastly outnumber people kicked out a Conservative politician for an anti-Brexit Lib Dem. Boris’ parliament just got even more hostile. Boris has failed his first electoral test.
    Rob Harris writes that brewers are calling for a review of the “unreasonably high” taxes on beer, with Australians paying more tax on the amber nectar than almost everywhere else in the world.
    Tony Wright wonders how we’d manage getting around these days without GPS.
    With Trump’s latest salvo, the trade war may finally hit Apple.
    This guy is a standout nomination for “Arsehole of the Week”!
    Then again . . .

    Cartoon Corner

    This cracker from David Pope says plenty!

    Great work from Jim Pavlidis.

    And from Andrew Dyson.

    Dark work from Alan Moir.

    And Moir gives us Angus Taylor’s year from hell.

    David Rowe lines up Trump and Mitch McConnell.

    from Matt Golding.

    Jon Kudelka updates the pearly gates.
    I Like this.

    From the US

  10. C@tmomma
    Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 8:05 am
    nath @ #7 Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 – 7:58 am
    when can I expect that apology C@t? You claimed that I had said some terrible things. I think it’s only fair.
    No apology. I just realised that I probably won’t be able to find the offensive comment any more because Mr Bowe deleted it. Hence your confidently standing up on your hind legs demanding an apology. You’re a cunning one, I’ll give you that.
    No. William has not deleted anything I have posted. That’s because I am careful with my words and don’t post anything offensive. The fact is you have imagined this post. Actually, you have inflamed the post Jolyon found yesterday into a heinous crime.

    I remember you also claimed last year that I said something terribly offensive to Lizzie last year. Which I denied. Despite days of searching for it all you came up with was something I said to BW that was fairly tame. The fact is your relationship with reality is at times tenuous.

  11. zoomster

    To control the narrative a lot of effort has been put into undermining science. They have in a short decade undermined a central tenant of western civilization. When you look at it what power has succeeded in doing is pretty amazing.

  12. The Age reports that creaking noises louder than a vacuum cleaner that disturbed residents through the night at a Southbank highrise were caused by incorrect building techniques, a report reveals.

    Oh I do love a good euphemism in the morning ,”incorrect building techniques” sounds so much nicer than what actually went on that led to the shit they are now in.

  13. Confessions @ #20 Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 – 8:20 am

    Everything Trump Touches Dies.

    President Trump announced Friday that Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Tex.), his embattled pick to lead the nation’s intelligence community, was withdrawing from consideration and would remain in Congress.


    He was caught flat out lying about how many immigrants he had rounded up on the southern border in one day. In order to please King Rat, of course.

  14. zoomster @ #18 Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 – 8:14 am


    My son’s just finished reading ‘Merchants of Doubt’. He got very depressed by it.

    If one were determined to give oneself a good kicking – get a load of this lot –
    “Depresions R Us.”

    In the meanwhile the sun has risen. Today in Newcastle will be a pleasant day with the temperature expected to be 21℃. 🌞

  15. Mutual Assured Destruction mentioned back there.
    From a personal & Australian point of view, I never worried much during the MAD years. I figured (correctly as it seems) that despite the feinting, arms testing, minor conflicts & general nastiness engineered by both sides that ultimately rational people* would not go all the way.
    I’m not so confident anymore. Rational people at that level are hard to find.

    * I figured Reagan’s minders would keep him in check.

  16. Joe Biden survived his second debate but did not dispel the impression that the brittleness of his candidacy is more important than his double-digit lead in a field the congestion of which is, for now, his friend. He has never been the Democrats’ Demosthenes. Now, however, when he commits the sort of verbal fender-benders that have long characterized him, or when he has a normal hesitancy reaching for the mot juste or an elusive fact, many people will wonder whether he is showing his age, 76.

    Biden’s neon smile is a nice contrast with the snarl that defines the leader of the other party, but Democrats must consider this: If they nominate Biden, they will be hostages to his health, and if he catches a cold or develops a cough in October 2020, the electorate might get chills.


    I don’t necessarily agree Biden is the best candidate to beat Trump next year, but I think this is unfair. Trump is way less healthy than Biden, both physically and mentally yet gets a pass on the subject of physical and mental capacity because he is incapable and inappropriate in every other way.

  17. BK (Block)
    Saturday, August 3rd, 2019 – 8:06 am
    Comment #13

    Good morning Dawn Patrollers. I’ll be back soon with Part 2. The animals need feeding.

    Part 2. I have barely got my eyes open and already there is a “wait there’s more.”

    Checking the suspicion bump on my head (phrenology) – which, what are who/whom are the “animals” ❓ Could it be horses, cows, goats or
    No- o- ooo can it be the Poll Bludgers.

    Please somebody say it isn’t so :?!

  18. The SMH reveals that a small group of private certifiers have signed off on 130 buildings with compliance problems, including allowing residents to move into one property that did not have toilets or taps fitted. Surely this deserves jail time!

    Like lizzie said, why in blazes would anyone buy or move into high rise apartments these days?

  19. Dawn Patrol Part 2.

    Paul Bongiorno writes, “Tasmanian independent Jacqui Lambie has returned to the senate convinced that people don’t trust politicians. That’s the message she received anywhere she went in the island state during her enforced exile from parliament over citizenship eligibility, she says. And that’s why she and other crossbenchers in both the house of representatives and the senate are calling for the urgent establishment of a national integrity commission.”
    The AFR explains how to find the best returns in a low-rate world.
    And it warns us we should buckle up for a wild ride as a capricious and campaigning US president is in the mood for a currency war.
    Another scoop from Karen Middleton who writes, “Australia’s law-enforcement agencies are sidestepping the courts to obtain the vast majority of their phone-tap and email interception warrants from the Administrative Appeals Tribunal (AAT) – a body that has attracted criticism for the number of its political appointees, some without legal qualifications.”
    Katharine Murphy begins her contribution with, “The 46th parliament is beginning to ease into itself. The Coalition’s collective shock at winning the election is transforming, bit by bit, into swagger. In the bear pit, the government hovered on the brink of braggadocio.” She really gives Morrison a serve.
    David Uren tells us that as George Calombaris returns wages of $7.8 million to his employees, the latest research shows widespread underpayment of casual workers – particularly those earning the least.
    Michael McGowan explains how Australia’s right wing speaking circuit went from ‘PR stunt’ to cash cow.
    Mike Seccombe writes that while the government argues it needs tough new powers to break up thuggish, militant unions, experts say the average union member is a 50-something woman working in aged care. He concludes by suggesting John Setka is not the reason for the proposed legislation, but the excuse.
    The NAB has launched an investigation into the misuse of its products including allowing self-managed super funds to borrow to invest in managed funds, a practice that is banned.
    Laura Tingle bemoans the deafening silence from Canberra over the Crown Casino revelations.
    Crown Resorts takes extraordinary steps to deny crime link claims, but faces five separate inquiries and calls for a royal commission
    The abuse of power exhibited by Peter Dutton’s Home Affairs Department has made a mockery of our tourist visa system, writes Murray Hunter.
    According to an Dunlop and David Spratt Australia’s climate stance is inflicting criminal damage on humanity.
    Beefing up security isn’t the only way to make hospitals safer explains Jacqui Pich.
    This week, John Wren looks at why our economy is stalling as well as more Liberal Government failures.
    Amanda Meade goes after Gerard Henderson’s spirited defence of Angus Taylor on Insiders.
    A recent breach of patient confidentiality by the Department of Human Services has raised legal and ethical questions.

  20. BSA Bob

    Putin and Xi are very rational so although not nice people running crap political systems I don’t worry about them testing ‘MAD’ . Can’t say I’m so relaxed about the empire in decline aka The US of A . I can see some nut at some stage feeling the need to ‘show who still boss’ and that they still have what it takes…………..even if they don’t . Decline of Empire and instability probably go together.

  21. poroti
    Good point. I realise now that when I wrote that I was thinking pretty much of “our” side, plus a few nutters on the other. Which makes your point about the decline of empire still more depressing.

  22. A glimmer of hope for 2020:


    Climate Could Be an Electoral Time Bomb, Republican Strategists Fear

    A growing number of conservative young voters identify climate change as a top priority.

    As the influence of younger Republicans rises, some strategists warn that the party stands to lose voters to Democrats.

    (NYT headline)

  23. Thanks BK for the early Dawn Patrol.

    From the BK Files.

    Meanwhile in Melbourne The Age reports that creaking noises louder than a vacuum cleaner that disturbed residents through the night at a Southbank highrise were caused by incorrect building techniques, a report reveals.

    Multiplex says the noises in Australia 108 are associated with extreme winds.

    “In extreme winds, it is natural for some noise to be experienced in any high rise,” the company said in a statement.

    “The noise is also expected to reduce at building completion, when damper tanks will be installed to the top of the tower to reduce building movement.”

    Carefully considering the article it would appear that a deal of the wind is coming from those associated with the building being constructed by Multiplex and developed by World Class Global which is set to be the tallest building in Australia and the highest residential building in the southern hemisphere.

    Another theory put forward from the Gummints Department of Global Falsification and Denial is that the OzScience proven poltergeist phenomena is at play in the building with playful ghosts tickling the tootsies of unsuspecting inhabitants.
    Or – in line with information just to hand – the whoosh and swish of those huge rotating blades planned for Taswegia may be transmitting through time to effect tall towers in Melbourne.

    Or – I should go back to bed. 🛌

    A tuned damper tank. Crowd funding possibly required to purchase ex Murray/Darling liquid from resource centre in Cayman Islands.

    Cripes BK has already put up part 2 of the ✔ Dawn Patrol. ✔

  24. Five years after her partner was murdered while he was investigating a case of illegal land clearing, a New South Wales woman says she is shattered by an amnesty for those who broke the laws he was trying to enforce.

    Mr Turner, a father of two, had been investigating illegal land clearing on Turnbull’s property.

    “From the initial anger, I am totally gutted by it,” said Alison McKenzie, Mr Turner’s partner.

    New South Wales Farmers said the pursuit of landholders under the old act was creating unnecessary worry, especially during drought.

    “A lot of these people thought they were just doing normal farming practice …


  25. @LesStonehouse
    Morrison popularity will drop soon and get worse in next 2 years.. But a few months before the next election he’ll start kicking footballs and sipping beers again and dumb folks (where I come from) will think he’s one of us again someone hit me with a chair #auspol ffs!

  26. Dorothy dixers


    Question Time is supposed to be one of the main vehicles by which a government can be held to account.

    Political analyst Peter Kennedy said the manipulation of Question Time by governments of both persuasions in WA had turned the exercise into a “sham”.

    “Dorothy Dixers are a blight on the Parliament,” Mr Kennedy said.

    “They demean the members who ask them, and the ministers who ask backbenchers to provide Dorothy Dixers are effectively abusing their position.”
    And a huge proportion of the players themselves — the MPs — pass the time scrolling on their phones or, occasionally, playing a game such as solitaire.
    “It does not help democracy,” Mr Kennedy countered.

    “In many senses, it is most undemocratic.”

    The same can be said of all other state jurisdictions as well as the federal sphere.

  27. Strange that ICAC can go after Chinese $10k donations to the ALP, yet ignore the ‘hiding in plain sight’ multiple $500k donations from the Packer family to the Liberal Party.

    Payola from the $10k to Labor? Zilch.

    Payola from the multiple $500k to Liberals? Barangaroo Casino with no tender. Facilitation for Chinese Whales at Crown establishments.

  28. Concerns about Joe Bidens health may be well founded. But from my vantage point the real concern is with Trumps health. He is deteriorating by the day.
    Something is going to give.

  29. Crown Casino


    Lucky, you would think, that Federal Parliament was sitting, so that the Government was in Canberra, available to be asked to questions about these shocking revelations, and of course, to spring into action to do something about them.

    Five days later, the extraordinary silence from the major parties on the issue on Monday still lingers as loudly over federal politics as if someone had let off a very large cannon.
    The Coalition’s main focus for the sitting fortnight remained trying to wedge Labor. The Opposition’s main focus was on trying to pin corruption allegations on a government minister which, while important to pursue on accountability grounds, didn’t quite rate on the same scale as the imputation of systemic corruption involved in the Crown allegations.

    The Government played down the controversy. The Opposition didn’t even think they warranted any questions.

    The questions instead eventually came from the crossbench, led by the Greens.
    Wilkie, Bandt, and fellow crossbenchers Rebekha Sharkie and Zali Steggall gave powerful speeches in the House about both the allegations and how they fitted into the broader political discourse.

    Central to their case is the relentless and growing pressure for a national integrity commission.

    The push for a national anti-corruption body was gaining considerable momentum last year with Labor behind it. But it was a crossbench holding the balance of power in the House of Representatives that pushed it to the status of an issue the Government had to actually address.
    The fact that the Government looked like it had only called the inquiry to head off a parliamentary inquiry didn’t help appearances either.

    It didn’t really have to worry, though, as Labor was more than happy to accept the Government’s arguments that a parliamentary inquiry would be, altogether, a bad idea.
    The crossbench in the Senate and the House now have a cause on moral grounds, and a pragmatic interest in using the issue of an anti-corruption body to both reinforce to voters the value of their presence in the parliament to raises issues the major parties won’t — classic “keep the bastards honest” territory — and as a bargaining chip for the Government’s legislative program.

    Given that ex-politicians from both sides of politics have ended up working for Crown, it has not been a good week for dismissing the appearances of massive conflicts of interest, at the least, between our political parties and investigating what now appears to be, at the least, systemic abuse, if not corruption, of our border security processes.
    There is lots of talk about freedom of speech and freedom of religion abroad in politics just now. But freedom from corruption and hypocrisy would probably satisfy a lot more voters.

    Given the bipartisan agreement on so many issues relating to corruption, if it wasn’t for the crossbench, business as usual would prevail without any real scrutiny, scrutiny that keeps these same issues on the boil.

  30. I’m not normally an Elizabeth Farrelly fan, but her article today outlines brilliantly how money talks in Sydney…

    “When a competition to nickname Barangaroo casino flared briefly on Twitter, suggestions included The Toilet Brush, The Vibrator, The Speculum … and anything meaning total and utter sellout – Barry’s Bottle of Grange, say, or just Barrangawrong. Then, inevitably, came the phalloids; Barrangaprong, Barrangawang, Barrangaschlong … and my personal pick for what will soon be Sydney tallest building, Packer’s Pecker. Or, not to overdignify the thing, Packer’s Peckerdillo.

    A similar competition for the sad-looking hole-in-the-ground that was once Philip Cox’s pretty Moore Park stadium might produce metaphors of a more feminine persuasion, but similar doubts pertain regarding the proponent’s capacity to get it up.”


  31. Jamie Clements – now thankfully ‘boned’ from Sussex St HQ – was so dumb he failed to see the downside of allegedly flaunting the donation laws. One could almost imagine that this was a set up.

  32. From the BK Files.

    Beefing up security isn’t the only way to make hospitals safer explains Jacqui Pich.

    Having had, in the long ago, some involvement with the subject matter, the idea put forward

    Then there’s the quality of security guards. Health is a unique environment where traditional security measures can be counter-productive. For instance, if guards use inappropriate communication when people are anxious and stressed they can increase the chance of a situation escalating.

    What’s needed are specially trained health security guards, working with doctors and nurses, as part of a multidisciplinary rapid response team. This doctor-led team would be called in to manage violent behaviour, for instance to “take down” a violent patient.

    Sounds good to me. In the good old days the security people would turn up after the ball was over then wander off. I suspect that teams as described above would be excellent in some circumstances although m0st events happen very quickly and are only managed by personnel on hand. The teams as above would need to be available 24 hours and the funding would not likely be readily available. Possibly prayer is the answer.

    Somebody please phone the Prime Minister to sort out this problem. 🙏🙏

  33. Police bypass courts for warrants


    Australia’s law-enforcement agencies are sidestepping the courts to obtain the vast majority of their phone-tap and email interception warrants from the Administrative Appeals Tribunal (AAT) – a body that has attracted criticism for the number of its political appointees, some without legal qualifications.
    A crossbench attempt to force the house of representatives to establish a standing committee to examine the Crown Casino allegations was defeated 127 to five, when the Coalition and Labor voted together to oppose it.
    Centre Alliance senator Rex Patrick said there was a need for better transparency to instil confidence in the quasi-judicial system. He suggested the AAT was at risk of wandering from its remit as spelt out in the Administrative Appeals Tribunal Act.
    Patrick put a motion to the senate on Thursday calling for the repeal of section 7(3)(b) that allows non-lawyers to be appointed. The motion was defeated when the Coalition and Labor voted against it.

    Successive governments have appointed former politicians, political staff and other party affiliates to the tribunal, some of whom were legally qualified and some of whom were not.

    Coalition and Labor in lock-step.

  34. Morrison’s version of government has a compliance problem.
    This government will not last its full term as reality seems to have hit the ground so early in the government’s tenure. As a country we are one outrage from away from “marching in the streets”.
    It will happen, as a mob we are just a little slow. Queensland standard time!

  35. Peter Hartcher


    The bigger problem? Australia’s major political parties – both of them – have lost any sense of outrage on the people’s behalf, lost any capacity to respond in the national interest. The independents and crossbench members took up the task. They came together on Wednesday to demand anew the reform that all of Australia can see is desperately needed – a federal anti-corruption body.
    The independent MP from Tasmania, Andrew Wilkie, used what he called the “c-word” this week: “Corruption seems to be the word we don’t utter in this place. But by my standards and I think the standards of many in the community, it is patently a corruption of governance and proper process when a politician takes a large donation from someone and does something for them in return.” Wilkie said that the exchange of favours that occurs routinely in federal politics may not be criminally corrupt but that to any ordinary member of the public it was completely corrupt morally: “And that stuff goes on in this place every day.”

    The political duopoly has consequences.

  36. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/aug/03/anthony-albanese-says-indigenous-voice-must-come-first-to-achieve-reconciliation

    While Albanese has met Morrison to discuss the recognition project, the Labor senator Pat Dodson has been articulating strong concerns – publicly and privately – about the ALP agreeing to a proposal too modest to win the backing of Indigenous Australians.

    In the Labor caucus meeting this week, Dodson told colleagues the government’s inclination was to take the process back to the ideas for recognition that existed before the Uluru statement, and it intended to pursue a co-design process with “select individuals” rather than engaging in broad consultation.

    Dodson said the challenge for Labor would be to give Wyatt sufficient assistance to build the requisite level of support without walking away with “all the fleas and ticks that would undermine a principled position”.

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