Some unrelated electoral news nuggets to keep things ticking over:
• The Australian Electoral Commission has announced the deregistration of two right-wing minor parties, the more newsworthy of which was Cory Bernardi’s decision to decommission Australian Conservatives. This party owed its party registration to Bernardi’s position in the Senate, rather than its having 500 members, so the matter was entirely in his hands. In a sense, this also means an end to Family First, which won Senate seats at the 2004, 2013 and 2016 elections and had a presence in the South Australian upper house from 2002 to 2017, when it merged with Bernardi’s newly formed outfit. However, Family First appeared to lose energy as evangelical Christians increasingly preferred to direct their organisational efforts towards the Liberal Party, and was dominated in its later years by deep-pocketed former Senator Bob Day. Even further afield, the Rise Up Australia party, associated with controversial pastor Danny Nalliah of Catch the Fire Ministries, has voluntarily deregistered.
• JWS Research has released the latest results in its occasional series on issue salience, recording only one particularly noteworthy movement over the past three surveys: defence, security and terrorism, which only 20% now rate in the top five issues most warranting the attention of the federal government, down from 23% in February and 29% in November. “Performance index” measures for the government across the various issue areas have recorded little change post-election, except that “vision, leadership and quality of government” is up from 35% to 42% (which is still the fifth lowest out of 20 designated issue areas). The survey was conducted from June 26-30 from a sample of 1000.
• In the New York Times’ Upshot blog, Nate Cohn casts a skeptical eye over the record of online polling in the United States. It notes a Pew Research finding that YouGov’s “synthetic sampling” method achieves the best results out of the online pollsters, by which it “selects individuals from its panel of respondents, one by one, to match the demographic profile of individual Americans”. Another survey that performed relatively well, VoteCast, did so by concurrently conducting a huge sample phone poll, results of which were used to calibrate the online component.
sustainable future
I wasn’t aware that Gina has an Indigenous half-sister.
Barney
Yes, I had (well, tried to) a conversation with someone who couldn’t see Brexit causing any problems at all, because Britain has been Great for centuries.
Barney in Makassar
Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 9:46 am
Comment #931
My investigations have been curtailed as a result of my kindly and friendly neighbours allowing me the privilege of cleaning up after their dogs. Your question is an important one which needs to be combined with the “they didn’t orter be allowed to say stuff about me n’that” question.
Together with the time consuming challenge of working out (see Lizzie’s important contribution below) just WTF an IPA research director is and does. See also
sustainable future
Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 10:06 am
Comment #944
I’m having a time management problem.
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lizzie @ #902 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 8:41 am
Because – just because ❗
More than enough from me for today. Over —
🜜 Alchemical symbol for iron ore. To do with ❓ SFA
zoom,
It is obvious that the EU is holding Britain back from its continued greatness¿ 😆
Barney
Saying Labor can be wrong and that Labor’s actions are not the fault of the Greens is not exactly rocket science.
Like it or not Labor people need to do some self reflection. Blaming the Greens for Labor actions and policies doesn’t help Labor win elections.
Maybe fight on the issues instead of saying oh no the Greens have a different position. Its their fault Labor are losing.
lizzie says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 10:19 am
Surely Global Warming is a clear indication of the Devil’s infiltration into global Societies¿
Barney in the rabbit hole of fuckwittery
Is that related to……..
poroti,
Could be.
There is seemingly no beginning or end with the path unclear.
Barney
Just stop blaming the Greens all the time and argue the case on the issue. Labor might just get somewhere
@CaseyBriggs tweets
ABC writes to Peter Dutton asking for action against journalists to stop http://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-11/abc-managing-director-david-anderson-writes-to-peter-dutton/11298802
guytaur says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 10:32 am
????????
I don’t think I’ve typed the word “Green” or commented about them today.
At least until now! 😆
To prove my case about how the politics have changed and how the Greens are now doing what they would not have done before.
@RichardDiNatale tweets
Last week made it clear: the #Greens are the real opposition – and it’s never been more important to have Greens in our parliament. #auspol https://twitter.com/RichardDiNatale/status/1149115427106066433/video/1
Like it or not the Greens have shifted tactics and Labor opened the door to this.
You abuse, you snark, you smear…
You do a bit of that yourself, Psyclaw. You’re one of the biggest wowsers here. Hardly a day goes by without some poor bastard being publicly condemned or pitied by you for being outside the Approved Psyclaw Moral Spectrum and Code Of Conduct.
Of course they deserve it, so that makes it OK I guess.
Barney
You talked about my rabbit warren of logic when I was talking about Labor saying the Greens are at fault all the time.
If you were referring to my comment about Labor not standing up for rights look at the Surveillance article Lizzie posted.
That impacts on Freedom of Association as now the police can track you everywhere. Labor waved through legislation that lets this stuff happen. I mean in the general sense not the particular case as I don’t know how the Federal Law interacts with State law regarding facial recognition.
To my mind we need a right to privacy like the EU has to prevent this attack on our freedom of association.
guytaur says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 10:38 am
You’re writing satire now, I see! 😆
briefly @ #922 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 9:32 am
Most of us agree that Barnaby Joyce and the LibNat voters are barking mad for imposing terrible social and economics costs of climate change on future generations.
Even more disturbing is the Albanese led Lib lite support by continuing to prop up the thermal coal industry by backing in more thermal coal mining/export.
It is ONLY the Greens and a few independents who have a parliamentary voice against the environment destroyers and they should be supported by fair-minded commenters.
Barney
Yeah pointing out what the Greens are now doing as campaigning that they were not doing before is such satire. Glad you find reality so funny
@GrogsGamut tweets
But I thought voting for the tax cuts meant there would be no way the govt could say the ALP opposed them.
Gee. Who could have seen this coming. https://twitter.com/JoshFrydenberg/status/1149111406618243072
@JoshFrydenberg tweets
The @ato_gov_au has received over 1 million tax returns for the 18/19 year!
As of this morning over 1.1 million tax returns have been lodged compared to around 600,000 at the same time last year. Despite Labor’s opposition, Australians have now got the tax cuts they voted for!
An Opposition has to have a reasonable chance of forming government. It’s not called ‘the Opposition’ because it’s meant to oppose the government on every issue, but because they sit opposite the government in Parliament.
If di Natale is saying he’s got a chance of forming government, he’s wrong.
If di Natale is pledging to oppose everything the government proposes, he’s bonkers.
If di Natale is claiming that his party sits on the opposite benches in Parliament, he needs to go to Spec Savers.
God knows what di Natale means by that statement, and as I don’t believe in God I won’t be finding out soon.
Took a drive home from Newcastle yesterday afternoon, via the coal port at Kooragang Island.
Rest assured, the cosy assumption that Australia can and will be closing down its coal industry anytime soon is greeny horseshit, environmental Dreamtime stuff.
You look at the dozens of massive ore carrier ships anchored out to sea, the ones in port at the end of billions of dollars worth of conveyors, unloading trains over a kilometre long, one after another, day after day, the thousands of workers going home in the afternoon on a traffic-jammed expressway, and you realize that, for better or worse, this industry isn’t going anywhere in the near future.
Whatever the answer is, it isn’t gloati g over Coal’s easy demise.
Politics in Australia at the moment is a bit hard to stomach.
Off to read some books.
G’day Bludgers.
Just surfacing to leave a drive-by grenade for the recti (like compacted cowhead et al.) whose crowing made PB indigestible for thin-skinned lefty snowflakes (like me) over the last few months. How good is winning that election, eh?
Feast upon the latest Big Ideas – and weep. There is life beyond coal.
Going dark again.
zoomster @ #971 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 8:52 am
According to your post the Opposition party should be called the Opposite Party. Opposition means taking an opposite view or stance, it does not mean “sitting opposite”. Or are you referring to the number of times the Labor Party has not opposed any of the policies the Government has put forward.
Hmm. Perhaps you have a point. Given they offer no opposition at all on a lot of issues, perhaps they should be renamed the Opposite Party instead.
It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the stuff ups, holdups , unanswered calls etc etc from the ATO to take the glow away from the government.
Significant staff cuts in the ATO do not bode well especially if casual, untrained staff are bought in to handle the inflow of tax returns.
1.1 million lodgements does not automatically mean 1.1 million refunds are in the bank and those that are may not necessarily be the $1000 plus that was enthusiastically “ promised “ by the government and its MSM propaganda machine.
Democracy Busters R Us
Smash the APS section
Chapter: Transfer the MDBA to Griffith
Chapter: Fire thousands from the ATO
Chapter: Gut another $1.5 billion from Admin spend
guytaur says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 10:52 am
@GrogsGamut tweets
But I thought voting for the tax cuts meant there would be no way the govt could say the ALP opposed them.
It is tiresome, but the Liberal/Green campaign machine does not deal in facts. The green part complains Labor supported that tax cuts even though, thanks to the excellent work of the machine Labor is in no position to oppose. The Liberal part complains they opposed even though opposition would amount to nothing.
How effective is that.
The Greens of cause don’t care they have never been in a position where they can effectively oppose anything, their sole goal is to help the Liberals destroy Labor. I am impressed with your early and
aggressive start to the Greens anti Labor campaign. I am sure those at menzies house will appreciate you efforts.
@MichaelWestBiz tweets
Coal is branded public enemy #1 for environment but LNG is not far behind. How to stop the trillion-dollar gas juggeraut?
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/selling-the-lng-myth-false-economics-selective-accounting-and-political-capture/
#auspol #ausbiz
Democracy Busters R Us
Public Opinion Management Section
Chapter: Pay Deloittes millions. Receive sage public advice from Richardson.
Frednk
Labor could try listening to science rather than lobby groups.
Blaming the Greens for Labor’s position is very poor politics
Democracy Busters R Us
Privatization Section
Chapter: Look the other way as the Private Sector Spivs skin consumers in the Telecom space.
I’m waiting for Morrison to stand beside Wyatt and support him on Indigenous Recognition. Then we’ll know it will never happen.
Bushfire Bill @ #970 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 10:56 am
This epitomises the utter resignation of Lib lite on environmental matters.
It is ONLY the Greens and a few Independents who have societies best environmentally economic and social interests at heart.
Rex Douglas @ #984 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 11:13 am
I honestly don’t know how you can type such nonsense.
Bushfire Bill
Coal will stay until the alternatives are built, it is that simple.
The Greens have just used adani to assure a Liberal government is reelected, that is all, that is there goal, just look at the posts from party members who visit this site. The left side of the Green/Liberal campaign machine; goal the destruction of labor.
After 27 of Greens tweets, announcements, posts, verbal attacks three more smashing environmental defeats:
Kossie is turned into a feral horse paddock.
The Murray National Park is to be deregistered.
Carbon emissions in Australia are increasing.
Any Greens who was 18 when the Party was formed is now 45 years old.
Any Greens Party supporter who is less than 45 years old can’t remember what it was like when environmentalists scored major real victories.
FredNK
Labor paid the price for saying it was against Adani in a By election in Victoria. Queensland Coal Workers listened.
‘Player One says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 11:15 am
Rex Douglas @ #984 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 11:13 am
It is ONLY the Greens and a few Independents who have societies best environmentally economic and social interests at heart.
I honestly don’t know how you can type such nonsense.’
Easy. Rex is a Liberal troll.
Player One says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 11:15 am
Rex Douglas @ #984 Thursday, July 11th, 2019 – 11:13 am
It is ONLY the Greens and a few Independents who have societies best environmentally economic and social interests at heart.
I honestly don’t know how you can type such nonsense.
The Liberal/Green campaign machine does not deal in facts; any nonsense gets a run.
Fredrik
The Labor campaign of blaming everyone else but themselves is in full swing as the denial factor has not gone away yet.
‘lizzie says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 11:12 am
@YaThinkN
2h2 hours ago
Weird seeing Ken Wyatt lauded for his words about Indigenous Recognition, then looking at some of the horrific stuff coming out of the Aged Care Inquiry, yet, never mentioning he over-saw that serious lack of governance as Minister for Aged Care?’
Democracy Busters R Us
Denial Section
Chapter: Wyatt’s Trail of Death and Human Destruction in Aged Care Facilities.
guytaur says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 11:17 am
FredNK
Labor paid the price for saying it was against Adani in a By election in Victoria. Queensland Coal Workers listened.
Been around that bush 100 times. The Liberal/Green campaign machine has moved on so why go around again.
Dan,
Opposition is derived from the preposition of place, opposite, and as such, to sit in opposition is sit opposite someone.
It has been adapted to be used in other ways as you highlight, but in describing the main minority in our Parliament it describes their position in the Chamber opposite the Government.
FredNK
Yeah stay stuck in your bubble. Deny the facts. Thats so going to help Labor win an election.
‘Bushfire Bill says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 10:56 am
Took a drive home from Newcastle yesterday afternoon, via the coal port at Kooragang Island.
Rest assured, the cosy assumption that Australia can and will be closing down its coal industry anytime soon is greeny horseshit, environmental Dreamtime stuff.
You look at the dozens of massive ore carrier ships anchored out to sea, the ones in port at the end of billions of dollars worth of conveyors, unloading trains over a kilometre long, one after another, day after day, the thousands of workers going home in the afternoon on a traffic-jammed expressway, and you realize that, for better or worse, this industry isn’t going anywhere in the near future.
Whatever the answer is, it isn’t gloati g over Coal’s easy demise.’
Unfortunately, you are right. A rellie did a caravan trip through the Queensland coal fields recently. They could hardly find a spot that was not noise polluted by all the machines. Try getting a motel room in these areas.
Boerwar
“Any Greens Party supporter who is less than 45 years old can’t remember what it was like when environmentalists scored major real victories.”
But what about the Anti-Adani Convoy!
Oh yeah… You meant victories for the environment. Carry on.
Frydenberg hardens his heart.
https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/paddy-manning/2019/09/2019/1562649448/frydenberg-hardens
BB
When did Paul Keating join the Greens party?
A reminder for you he said live on national television during ALP conference. Coal is Dead.
lizzie says:
Thursday, July 11, 2019 at 11:12 am
He might even put his arm around his shoulders! 😮