The last two-party preferred count for the lower house is complete, leaving the Coalition with a national two-party preferred total of 51.53%, which is exactly the result that was projected by the opinion polls, albeit for the wrong party. The Australian Electoral Commission website continues to record that 288 declaration vote envelopes remain unprocessed, of which 234 are in the seat of Kingsford Smith, but I suspect that may just reflect tardiness in keeping these numbers updated.
We should also have the last Senate result finalised this morning, that being in Victoria, where a result of three Liberal, two Labor and one Greens is assured. Counts were finalised yesterday in Queensland, Western Australia and South Australia. To complement previous efforts for New South Wales and Tasmania, I offer the following displays showing how the preference distributions proceeded. In each case they record where the votes stood after the election of candidates with full quotas at the start of the count, and also in the final stages, where three seats were decided in Queensland, and two were decided in Western Australia and South Australia.
First up, Queensland, where the result was three for the Coalition (Paul Scarr, Susan McDonald and Gerard Rennick, all newcomers) and one apiece for Labor (Nita Green, also a newcomer), One Nation (Malcolm Roberts, returning after falling foul of Section 44 and having his seat pass to Fraser Anning, whose own party proved uncompetitive) and the Greens (Larissa Waters, another Section 44 casualty who had already returned to the Senate after her successor, Andrew Bartlett, agreed to make way for her ahead of the election). Queensland was the one state where the result was not clear long in advance, although in the final analysis it wasn’t really all that close. The Coalition won two seats straight off the bat and Labor one, leaving Green, Roberts, Waters and Labor’s second candidate, Chris Ketter, in the mix for the last three. There never seemed much doubt that the fourth seat would go to One Nation and the fifth to the Coalition, but Labor might have hoped the dual miracle of a strong performance in late counting and unexpectedly strong preference flows could have given Ketter the last seat at the expense of Waters. In fact though, Ketter trailed Waters by 52,767 votes (1.8%) at the start of proceedings, which widened to 78,681 (2.7%) by the end, with Waters doing predictably well out of preferences from Animal Justice and Help End Marijuana Prohibition – although she didn’t quite make it to a quota.
Now to Western Australia, which has returned three Liberals (incumbents Linda Reynolds and Slade Brockman, and newcomer Matt O’Sullivan), two Labor (incumbents Patrick Dodson and Louise Pratt) and one Greens (incumbent Jordon Steele-John). Reynolds, Brockman and Dodson were elected off the bat; O’Sullivan got most of the way there when the 1.4% Nationals vote was distributed; and Pratt and Steele-John were always going to get there late in the count ahead of One Nation incumbent Peter Georgiou.
South Australia produced the same result as Western Australia (and indeed New South Wales and Victoria, if the Coalition is considered collectively), the three Liberals being incumbents Anne Ruston and David Fawcett, and newcomer Alex Antic; Labor returning incumbent Alex Gallacher and newcomer Marielle Smith; and the Sarah Hanson-Young retaining her seat for the Greens. The top two on the Liberal and Labor tickets were elected off the bat; Hanson-Young made a quota after the third Labor candidate and the Help End Marijuana Prohibition candidate dropped out; and Antic stayed well clear of One Nation throughout to take the last seat.
The overall picture in the Senate was summarised here a few weeks ago – all that’s different now is that the “likely” qualification can be removed from Queensland.
Update: Victorian Senate result
The Victorian result was finalised this morning (Wednesday), producing the anticipated result of three seats for the Liberals (incumbents James Patterson and Jane Hume, and newcomer David Van), two for Labor (Raff Ciccone, who came to the Senate after filling a casual vacancy in March, and Jess Walsh, a newcomer) and one for the Greens (incumbent Janet Rice). The chart below follows the same format as those above, and shows that this was not a close run thing. The Coalition and Labor both had two quotas on ticket votes, leaving two seats to be determined through the preference distribution. Labor’s third candidate, incumbent Gavin Marshall, was never in contention, and his exclusion pushed the Greens to a quota with Van, Derryn Hinch and One Nation still in the count. One Nation then were excluded, leaving David Van well ahead of Hinch to take the final seat, without making it to a quota.
Enlightened article on who’s who in the Brexit zoo.
“You turn the pages of yellowing student newspapers from 30 years ago, and there they are, recognisably the same faces that dominate today’s British news. Boris Johnson running for Union president, Michael Gove winning debating contests, Jeremy Hunt holding together the faction-ridden Oxford University Conservative Association (OUCA).
Six of the seven men who survived the first round of the Tory leadership contest earlier this month studied at Oxford. The final two remaining candidates, Johnson and Hunt, were contemporaries along with Gove in the late 1980s.
The UK is thus about to install its 11th Oxonian prime minister since the war. (Three postwar PMs didn’t attend university, and Gordon Brown went to Edinburgh.) This beats even the grip of the Ecole Nationale d’Administration on the French presidency (four of the past six presidents have been énarques), let alone Harvard’s on the White House.”
https://t.co/pj5PWS2DwX
I don’t see Folau winning this case, he hasn’t been sacked because of his religious views, he was sacked for behaving in a manner that goes against how his employer wants him to act. It could be argued that he wasn’t at work at the time but his job makes him a public figure and as such his behavior is a reflection upon his employer. Workplace law comes under contractual law so Folau has entered into a contract to behave in certain ways that suit his employer in exchange for the right to play rugby.
Historyintime says:
Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:16 pm
Concerning Folau I fail to see why, from a left-progressive point of view , why employment contracts should be give so much authority. If they include repressive conditions, and that includes restrictions on basic rights such as religious and political belief, I am quite happy to see them invalidated.
As usual the identity left is putting their own moral sanctimony first in the Folau case.
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The workplace falls under contract law, with two parties to the contract (employer and employee or boss and worker) under that contract both sides agree to certain terms, some conditions as required by law and some relating to that particular relationship.
But how is Folau being prevented from practicing his religion, all he has been sacked for is acting in a manner that reflects poorly on his employer, there is nothing in Folau’s religion that requires him to act as he did.
Lets put it another way, Folau is required to follow the coach’s instructions on fitness, if Folau choose to ignore that and turned up 10kg overweight then it could be expected that he might not be selected and if he choose to ignore the sport’s drug code and pumped up on certain prohibited performance enhancing drugs then he would face a lengthy ban from the sport.
nath says:
Friday, June 21, 2019 at 11:00 pm
Although I deplore his views, looking at Folau’s actual post leads me to think he will probably win a court case.
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If Rugby Australia has given him the chance to remove the post and to apologise and he has refused then that will probably be enough to cover their “legal” arse. Had they just come out and sacked him without following a process where he was given the chance to defend himself then I would think he would be on stronger ground.
Regardless of the legals, he is too good a player to just sack so it is unlikely that Rugby Australia would just sack him without offering him a way out of his self-inflected hole. If Rugby Australia wanted they could say okay here is your contract but you wont be selected for anyone of a number of reasons from team balance to game plan etc.
A marvelous water and money saving idea, simply change Sterling to AUD
My theory on the last two elections for what it’s worth. The People didn’t “elect” the last two PM’s that have led the L/NP at the elections so they voted them back in, with the leader the federal parliament chose. Just waiting for the chance to vote them out the next time round but the fekkers keep changing leaders. If Sir Moron is still there next election they’ll be gone but if they have another round of musical chairs in the next three years they’ll get back again. I know, as a theory it aint much but it works for me.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Shane Wright and Eryk Bagshaw say that middle- and high-income earners will face some of the highest tax rates in the English-speaking developed world unless the Morrison government’s $158 billion tax plan is passed in full when Parliament returns next month.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/coalition-tax-plan-would-give-australian-workers-an-edge-20190621-p51zvq.html
Ross Gittins, though, plumps for a more targeted approach to get the economy off the recession path.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/there-s-one-thing-politicians-just-can-t-resist-when-the-economy-goes-bad-20190620-p51zrp.html
And Australia’s peak social services body has seized on comments from the Reserve Bank governor after he said an increase to Newstart would be “good for the economy”.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/21/reserve-bank-governor-suggests-newstart-increase-would-be-good-for-the-economy
Here’s Paul Buongiorno’s take on the tax package, how it may or may bot be broken up and how the politics might play. out
https://www.outline.com/3kMdGy
Laura Tingle writes about the downside of being a landlord nation.
https://www.outline.com/uvUPdE
Karen Middleton dives into the Paladin issue and finds the Manus refugee services contract to be embroiled in dispute.
https://www.outline.com/nb6UDA
Matthew Knott writes that Trump has revealed he was prepared to launch a military strike against Iran but called it off with just ten minutes to spare when a military general told him it would cause 150 deaths.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/we-were-cocked-and-loaded-trump-confirms-iran-strike-plan-20190622-p52079.html
US studies academic Jared Mondschein explains why Trump should hurry up and wait on Iran, for the world’s sake.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/trump-should-hurry-up-and-wait-on-iran-for-the-world-s-sake-20190621-p5205i.html
Patrick Hatch reports that Qantas will re-route flight paths to avoid parts of Iran amid escalating tensions with the US.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/qantas-to-re-route-flights-after-us-ban-on-iran-20190621-p5203g.html
Martin McKenzie-Murray writes that the 17 years since her son’s death Rosie Batty have been marked by public esteem and an intense personal hell.
https://www.outline.com/952cP2
“Nothing to see here,” said Scomo, following misconduct allegations over Angus Taylor allegedly trying to influence Josh Frydenberg to weaken laws to escape prosecution by a company he part owns. Jommy Tee and Ronni Salt make another deep dive into the Energy Minister’s circle of friends and find significant absent-mindedness.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/rowers-reprise-how-angus-taylors-mates-cleaned-up-without-him/
The tax office plans a crackdown on investment property tax rorts as a growing number of people top up their loans, then claim deductions on cash being used for new cars, holidays or to pay down other debt. Good!
https://www.outline.com/TAPnZG
The London Daily Telegraph looks at the possibility of a currency war.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-world-s-biggest-parasite-europe-is-defenceless-if-trump-starts-a-currency-war-20190620-p51zfq.html
It’s about time the Australian Government started doing something to assist the poor and homeless rather than helping the rich, writes Noely Neate.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/politics-of-envy-feeding-the-rich-in-an-entitled-society,12825
A brilliant contribution from Peter FitzSimons on Folau and The Parrot.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/as-a-good-christian-man-folau-s-word-should-be-his-bond-20190621-p5201s.html
Adele Ferguson tells us ow Rex Patrick is a thorn in Christian Porter’s side with respect to legislation to improve whistleblower protection.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/it-s-long-overdue-senator-calls-for-action-on-whistleblowers-20190621-p5204e.html
Building defect consultant Ross Taylor explains how the NSW government and many before it have presided over the gradual dilution of effective consumer protection when it comes to strata title ownership. This is a bit frightening.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-s-strata-building-owners-get-knocked-down-when-they-step-up-20190621-p52013.html
Meanwhile the NSW government is exploring options to deliver an unprecedented emergency relief package for residents forced to evacuate the troubled Mascot Towers apartment block.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mascot-towers-residents-could-get-unprecedented-emergency-relief-20190621-p52058.html
Adrian Beaumont shows how it will be difficult for Labor to win in 2022 using the new pendulum and the Senate and House preference flows.
https://theconversation.com/difficult-for-labor-to-win-in-2022-using-new-pendulum-plus-senate-and-house-preference-flows-119005
Australia’s energy problems have been exacerbated by the rise through Morrison’s ranks of the former Minerals Council CEO, writes Sophie Vorrath. She says that in case there was any doubt about the ties that bind Australia’s top coal lobbyists with the Federal Coalition Government, former Minerals Council of Australia CEO Brendan Pearson has been tapped as a senior advisor to Scott Morrison.
https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/coal-lobbyist-rises-in-the-pms-ranks,12826
Patrick Hatch tells us why Coles and Woolies are rethinking their workforces.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/why-coles-and-woolies-are-rethinking-their-workforce-20190619-p51zax.html
James Boyce tells us that when the Ruddock religious freedom review was belatedly released in December last year, Prime Minister Scott Morrison claimed the “walls have been closing in” on believers in Australia. In truth, the walls have been coming down. Almost nowhere else in the developed world, including Britain or the United States, have so many core public services been handed over to the church. He concludes by saying that Morrison promised Australians his religion doesn’t influence his politics. Now is the time to make good on this promise. The prime minister must make clear that no group will be given a right to deliver government-funded services in a way that sacrifices the rights and freedoms of others.
https://www.outline.com/KBYgLM
Peter Dutton’s claim that pregnant rape victims on Nauru were “trying it on” by seeking abortions in Australia and then changing their minds is an appalling act of politicisation and victim blaming, federal politicians, advocates and lawyers for the women have said.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/21/peter-dutton-condemned-for-vile-and-offensive-nauru-claims
The Archbishop of Sydney, Anthony Fisher writes in The Australian that state-sanctioned killing is not about love. (Google)
statesanctioned-killing-is-not-about-love/news-story/502a869c196993434c32ea0db3ff0131
Catie McLeod writes in The Saturday Paper that Victoria’s passing of the Voluntary Assisted Dying Act has offered hope for those with terminal illness. But while some refuse to support the legislation, others think it doesn’t go far enough.
https://www.outline.com/RyJg4u
The real Boris Johnson – lazy, selfish, dishonest and gaffe-prone – may yet emerge in the final stages of the UK conservative leadership contest. This is an amazing excoriation worth reding for the prose value alone!
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/when-they-can-hide-him-no-longer-danger-will-strike-20190620-p51zq9.html
And Jonathan Freedland writes that when it comes to Boris Johnson Britons must not repeat the mistakes that have dogged opposition to the US president.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/21/defeat-boris-johnson-learn-lessons-donald-trump
Right on cue police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours overnight after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home
This year the flu is hitting us hard – and there could be worse on the way,
https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/2019/06/21/flu-2019-season-australia/
With the growing popularity of ethical investments, superannuation funds are lobbying companies to clean up their act. But some say the funds should focus squarely on maximising profits for their members, writes Mike Seccombe.
https://www.outline.com/rT8BJ4
Across Australia, regional councils will be left to pick up the bill for new national security measures at local airports and there are warnings “that it’s going to be crippling”.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/06/21/regional-airport-security/
Michael Gleeson unloads on the AFL’s recent positions.
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/afl/have-the-afl-and-gillon-mclachlan-dropped-the-ball-20190621-p51zzn.html
Today’s nomination for “Arsehole of the Week”.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/western-australia/bedford-killer-pretended-his-family-were-alive-for-nearly-a-week-after-brutal-murders-20190621-p52042.html
Cartoon Corner
Alan Moir and #watergate.
David Rowe and the safe hands of Trump.
Andrew Dyson homes in on Bernardi.
John Shakespeare with Boris Johnson’s move towards No, 10.
Matt Davidson and our circular economy.
Matt Golding.
John Shakespeare with Folau and Jones.
Zanetti’s back on the CFMMEU bandwagon again.
Two good ones from Sean Leahy.
Jon Kudelka in the White House.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d79bd82d2db402011d794921bb8e0b70?width=1024
From the US
BK
A magnificent effort. 🙂
Laughing at evil is always a good idea.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jun/20/petition-netflix-cancel-amazon-prime-good-omens-christian-neil-gaiman-terry-pratchett
More trouble for Albo? (But it’s the Tele)
A person on $200k a year is differently doing financially very well but it is not necessarily the top end of town as in the old money inherited wealth sense. It is fairly common for successful experienced sales professionals to earn in excess of that also many experienced doctors, lawyers and finance professionals would clear it, also many in the media clear it.
Trump’s Iran reversal exposes one of his most dangerous lies
As many observers have noted — it is Trump’s decision to pull out of the international nuclear deal negotiated by President Barack Obama that has led to this moment.
The short version: Iran was abiding by the deal, and was being constrained from developing nuclear weapons. But Trump pulled out — then reimposed sanctions to choke the Iranian economy, and has since dictated terms for sanctions relief that appear deliberately unrealistic, cornering Iran into a choice between escalating on its side or submitting entirely to those terms.
The Iran deal was and is imperfect — designed to constrain Iran, not through total capitulation to all our demands, but through a painstakingly negotiated international compromise.
It was working. But Trump’s worldview did not permit acknowledgment of this. Now he’s making good on his vow to achieve total capitulation through toughness, and we’re living through the deeply risky consequences.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/21/trumps-iran-reversal-exposes-one-his-most-dangerous-lies/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9fb430d9ba57
There does not appear to be any discussion about theimportance of freedom of contract and the freedom of parties to enter into an agreement with binding terms and consequences for breach of those terms
So what? “If you don’t love it, leave.”
I think that there are examples of employers encroaching unreasonably on employees’ private lives – for example, the SBS journalist who wrote a tweet saying that he doesn’t like the glorification of Australia’s role in World War One.
However, I think it is reasonable to require employees to refrain from speech that diminishes a vulnerable group that faces a lot of vilification. Saying that gay people are going to hell is not a friendly act. It is a form of hate speech that diminishes and dehumanizes gay people and makes their lives a lot harder. It is reasonable for an employer to instruct their employees to refrain from hate speech. The employing organization wants to be a good corporate citizen; this objective is frustrated if employees are tweeting up a storm about gay people going to hell.
Mexicanbeemer
We have lost the shades of ‘wealth’ in discussing income. What happened to middle class? Except, of course, it seems it is no longer acceptable to talk of class.
Tomorrow I’ll be attending a Meetup.com group called Gentle Thinkers to debate the topic
Is Australia’s media fulfilling its democratic role? Was the political coverage of the election fair and substantive? Does it have a good left/right balance? Is the concentration of media ownership a case for concern?
What points would you raise?
Wow!
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/red-hot-ashleigh-barty-edging-closer-to-world-no-1-after-beating-williams-20190622-p5207n.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1561153618
Folau to Ala Jones:
“The goal for me is to stand up for the word of God which is so important to me. It means more to me than what I have.”
So sell your investment properties.
Contrast Folau with the nurseryman on Gardening Australia last night, who has opened his land for charities such as Foodbank and Refugee Resource Centre to grow food.
BK
Thank you. Trump’s insanity at work:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/21/iran-latest-trump-drone-attack-timeline-airstrikes-called-off
Note that it is the soldiery who are desperately trying to stave off Trump’s insanity. There is no way that the Iranians are not going to respond to even a limited, so called ‘proportionate’ military attack by the US.
‘… include religious and political freedoms which are in the constitution ..’
Whoa, Nellie.
There is a difference between a High Court ruling and the Constitution.
In fact, the HC ruling stating that something is implied by the Constitution is outright saying it isn’t actual in it.
Thanks BK. A mammoth effort this morning!
‘Nicholas says:
Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 7:40 am
Tomorrow I’ll be attending a Meetup.com group called Gentle Thinkers to debate the topic
Is Australia’s media fulfilling its democratic role? Was the political coverage of the election fair and substantive? Does it have a good left/right balance? Is the concentration of media ownership a case for concern?
What points would you raise?’
This meeting is a waste of time.
They also say
But by 2024-25, when the government’s plan is due to be fully implemented, only workers in the US state of California and the UK would pay less in tax than an Australian.
love a how they class $100-200,000 as ‘middle income’. FMD ! earn $100k pa you are in the top 10% .
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/22/leaks-and-loose-lips-undermine-labor-unity-ahead-of-campaign-postmortem
“Now call me old-fashioned, but that flip-flopping doesn’t sound like the most compelling election pitch I’ve ever heard, particularly as the 2019 result suggests Australians are pretty focused on their material interests right at the moment, and don’t like the thought of having to give concessions up, even if those concessions are fiscally unsustainable.”
I agree with Katherine Murphy here, so I argue it will have to take some major economic pain in order to change this mentality. Especially given tax concessions such as negative gearing and franking dividends are seen as entitlements.
My understanding of the implied freedom of political communication cases is that they restrict the powers of the executive and the legislature. The cases do not confer rights on individuals. The Lange case outlines a two-part test for determining whether a law is invalid.
First, does the law effectively burden freedom of communication
about government or political matters, either in its terms, operation or effect?
Secondly, if the law effectively burdens that freedom, is
the law reasonably appropriate and adapted to serve a legitimate
end, the fulfilment of which is compatible with the maintenance of
the constitutionally prescribed system of representative and
responsible government and the procedure prescribed by s 128 for
submitting a proposed amendment of the Constitution to the
informed decision of the people.
A law is invalid if the answer to the first question is Yes and the answer to the second is No.
Bobbit
‘So, we’re all good signing contracts that remove any right to strike. Apart from illegal acts, is there anything we like to stop people from contracting out of? Minimum wage maybe etc?’
Well, signing away the minimum wage would be an illegal act.
Regardless, you’re ignoring the fact that contracts are two way things. (If you want freedom of speech, for example, you negotiate a trade; perhaps take a couple of mill less for the privilege). If you’re willing to trade away something, it’s because you believe you’re getting a worthwhile exchange for doing so.
In Folau’s case, he would have had lawyers crawling over every clause and discussing the implications of each before he signed.
And, remember, he received multiple warnings. In an ordinary workplace, if you’ve been warned multiple times about a behaviour and continue with it, you get sacked.
…and, of course, it’s interesting that Folau chews up so much media, whereas the woman sacked by Cricket Australia for comments about the lack of access to abortion in Tasmania doesn’t seem to have attracted the same level of support.
I continue to be astounded at the amount of attention a bigoted football player receives.
I’m really not too interested in the details of the case from a legal standpoint, I’ve always felt in my bones that Folau is totally out of order.
Only in Media Land is $100,000 middle income.
I think that whenever someone talks or writes about income brackets it should be second-nature to make sure that you have the accurate percentile information to hand.
I have a spreadsheet that was sent to me by Danielle Wood of the Grattan Institute. The spreadsheet presents the Grattan Institute’s estimates of taxable income for tax-filers by percentile (for financial year 2017-2018). They mostly use the 2 percent ATO sample file, which provides a lot of detail on distributional questions.
Here are a few examples of the percentiles:
If your total taxable income (from all sources – not just wages and salaries) is $152,000 per year, your income is higher than that of 95% of Australian tax-filers.
The federal government keeps presenting public high school principals and police superintendents (whose salaries are about $150,000) as middle income earners. Public high school principals and police superintendents are in the top five percent of the income distribution. Nowhere near the middle.
If your total taxable income is $91,000, your income is higher than that of 83% of tax-filers.
If your total taxable income is $44,000, your income is higher than that of 50% of tax-filers.
The true middle income in Australia is $44,000 per year.
The Same Sex Marriage Plebiscite and Scott Morrison becoming Prime Minister, has in my opinion really energized the Conservative Christians (including Pentecostals). I know plenty of them and they harbor some bitter feelings about how they saw some of those campaigning for the Yes case treated them, during plebiscite. The election has embolden them to push for protecting their rights to discriminate against LGBTQ people and be free to voice publicly the sort of opinions Israel Folau has.
“I continue to be astounded at the amount of attention a bigoted football player receives.”
Not so surprising, the RWWankers are ever ready to defend his right to be a nasty homophobic bigot. 🙂
I bet Folaus supports religious schools and their hiring and firing based on religion, or a worker’s lack of religion .No wuckas with them restricting ‘religious freedom’ of employees eh Israel ?
Has the penny finally (FINALLY!) dropped? This is why many commentators say Democrats must make the election a firm referendum on Trump and nothing else.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/i-dont-know-how-were-going-to-survive-this-once-loyal-farmers-begin-to-doubt-trump/2019/06/21/04a32c65-c385-4052-8cd7-5cb4ef2119cc_story.html?utm_term=.c746be6f004b
@poroti
Pretty much.
However Conservative Christians are a important swing vote (and a growing one due to immigration), many voted for Kevin Rudd for example. Ironically enough Penny Wong (who goes to a Uniting Church congregation) is the best person in the Labor caucus to win over some of these voters.
“Do you get that GoFundMe is specifically set up to fund those who cannot fund themselves, calling on the generosity of the community to raise money for things like removing tumours? But you instead want it used to get lawyers to help a millionaire footballer who broke a solid commitment and got sacked for his trouble, gouge money from the game that is already on its knees!”
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/as-a-good-christian-man-folau-s-word-should-be-his-bond-20190621-p5201s.html
Pretty good summary of the nuttbagger Folau situation.
Doesn’t McGrath even realise that the ABC Board has been appointed by the Libs?
Laura Tingle has a harsh criticism the Morrison government, implying it has a threadbare agenda to tackle a myriad of issues and keeps crying “Labor” instead of announcing a forward policy agenda.
…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/06/21/google-chrome-has-become-surveillance-software-its-time-switch/?utm_term=.8c7893131b01
Now they think that corruption in the govt is normal, blame all sides of politics, don’t all support democracy as the fairest form of govt, and don’t bother to vote.
I had to use my vpn to get onto Pollbludger.
Confessions @ #1141 Saturday, June 22nd, 2019 – 9:19 am
Then don’t use google. Go here instead; https://duckduckgo.com/?t=hp
What I can’t understand is why, with himself being reported as gay (and hence presumably being consigned to Hell upon his death), Jones has anything to do with Folau, and vice versa for that matter.
Strange bedfellows indeed.
Bushfire Bill @ #1145 Saturday, June 22nd, 2019 – 9:39 am
Pun intended?
lizzie @ #1139 Saturday, June 22nd, 2019 – 8:51 am
Excellent post young lady.
Suggestion :- Could have been shortened (pun ❓ ) to
McGrath does not even realise.
as
witness
the following action photograph
From
https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/q-and-a-recap-james-mcgrath-s-one-way-trip-to-crazy-town-20190416-p51eh2.html
Train wreck TV: Q&A features worst panellist in show’s history
and so – in answer to your original question
I am shocked and bewildered that anybody would think that anybody would ask such a question of Mr. (what was that name again) McGrath..
Mr. McGrath was playing a clever game – attempting to capture the FWit vote of Queensland and to assist in his clever plan to ……………….
Sorry folks – fresh coffee calls (and I really have no idea what Mr. McGrath’s clever plan is (if any).
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From a poll taken the other day.
https://www.suffolk.edu/news-features/news/2019/06/19/13/35/poll-3rd-party-candidate-would-give-trump-advantage
I wonder what a generic Republican third candidate would impact on Trump’s margin? I’ve often thought that if a genuine Republican like John Kasich ran that he’d pull Republican votes off Trump.
Re BB @9:39 “Bedfellows” ha ha.
Bert says:
Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 3:47 am
My theory on the last two elections for what it’s worth. The People didn’t “elect” the last two PM’s that have led the L/NP at the elections so they voted them back in, with the leader the federal parliament chose. Just waiting for the chance to vote them out the next time round but the fekkers keep changing leaders. If Sir Moron is still there next election they’ll be gone but if they have another round of musical chairs in the next three years they’ll get back again. I know, as a theory it aint much but it works for me.
In 1929 Labor won an election from Opposition with a PV of 49%. They did not win again from Opposition for 42 years, when Gough won in 1972. For much of this time, the Labor plurality was divided, but nevertheless the Labor PV held up in the high 40s.
Labor’s PV is now 1/3. It has been falling for many years, with the exception of 2007, when Labor also won from Opposition. This was the only time Labor has won en election in the last 23 years. The Labor-positive plurality is at best now 41%. This is insufficient to deliver election wins. In any case, that number conceals the Red/Green divide, which is deep, prolonged and pervasive. This divide includes the iron determination of the Greens to ensure Labor do not win. It is a reprise of the divide of the 1950s and 60s that kept Labor out of office through those decades.
Labor does not have the electoral support necessary to win again. It follows the Liberals will win. They have been winning for many years. They will continue to win. They are effective campaigners and they are extremely well-funded. They will easily out-perform a divided left-of-centre minority.
This is most unlikely to change. The economy and the environment are in trouble and will get worse. This is inevitable. They will get much worse as time passes. The effect of the twin campaigns run against Labor by the Greens and the Liberals has been to drive working class votes to the far right. This is very likely to get more pronounced. There is practically no chance that Labor can or will win federal elections given the structural forces at work in this country.
The consequence of these dynamics is that the fundamentals of the system we rely on will be dismantled by the Liberals. Progressive taxation is about to be virtually abolished. Measures in education, welfare and health will accentuate rather than repair inequality. The repression of unions will get more intense. Inequality of income, wealth and power will become more pronounced and more entrenched. The environment will be entirely trashed. These are the fruits of division and dysfunction on the left-of-centre. This is the 21st century. Get used to it.