The Australian Electoral Commission is now conducting Coalition-versus-Labor preference counts in seats where its indicative preference counts included minor party or independent candidates – or, if you want to stay on top of the AEC’s own jargon in these matters, two-party preferred counts in non-classic contests.
Such counts are complete in the seven seats listed below; 94% complete in Warringah, where the current count records a 7.4% swing to Labor, 78% complete in New England, where there is a 1.2% swing to the Coalition; at a very early stage in Clark (formerly Denison, held by Andrew Wilkie); and have yet to commence in Farrer, Indi, Mayo and Melbourne. Labor have received unexpectedly large shares of preferences from the independent candidates in Kooyong, Warringah and Wentworth, to the extent that Kevin Bonham now reckons the final national two-party preferred vote will be more like 51.5-48.5 in favour of the Coalition than the 52-48 projected by most earlier estimates.
We also have the first completed Senate count, from the Northern Territory. This isn’t interesting in and of itself, since the result there was always going to be one seat each for Labor and the Country Liberals. However, since it comes with the publication of the full data file accounting for the preference order of every ballot paper, it does provide us with the first hard data we have on how each party’s preferences flowed. From this I can offer the seemingly surprising finding that 57% of United Australia Party voters gave Labor preferences ahead of the Country Liberals compared with only 37% for vice-versa, with the remainder going to neither.
Lest we be too quick to abandon earlier assessments of how UAP preferences were behaving, this was almost certainly a consequence of a ballot paper that had the UAP in column A, Labor in column B and the Country Liberals in column C. While not that many UAP votes would have been donkey votes as normally understood, there seems little doubt that they attracted a lot of support from blasé voters who weren’t much fussed how they dispensed with preferences two through six. There also appears to have been a surprisingly weak 72% flow of Greens preferences to Labor, compared with 25% to the Country Liberals. It remains to be seen if this will prove to be another territorian peculiarity – my money is on yes.
Note also that there’s a post below this one dealing with various matters in state politics in Western Australia.

From the previous thread:
Hi Sprocket from Budapest,
I wish I could fit Istanbul into my trip, but alas not.
I am also really pissed off that the Orient express only finished its great train journey in 2002. I reckon a hop on / hop off ticket would have got me through my work travels in great style. Somehow Ryan Air just does not seem to have the same grandeur, but it does get the job done
It is sobering traveling overseas at the moment. Every problem / crisis facing Australian politics and society is also facing every other country in the world.
We should keep fighting for democracy and social justice, but we are fighting not just against trends in Australia, but trends right around the world.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Stephen Bartholomeusz explains the effects that the US Fed and the value of the Aussie dollar are having on the RBA’s deliberations.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/the-fed-and-the-australian-dollar-are-forcing-the-rba-s-hand-20190611-p51wh7.html
The SMH editorial says that the new trend for patients to go online to meet medical bills raises some damning questions about how Australia funds its health system. It also says specialists must also think of patients’ financial health.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health-and-wellness/specialists-must-also-think-of-patients-financial-health-20190611-p51wia.html
Eryk Bagshaw analyses what is quite a confronting report on tariffs and subsidies from the Productivity Commission.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/global-trade-is-under-greatest-threat-since-wwii-productivity-commission-says-20190611-p51wi9.html
David Crowe reports that In private briefings, Philip Lowe has told Senate crossbenchers that the RBA would have little room to move if Parliament failed to pass its tax cuts in July.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/they-re-a-little-bit-concerned-rba-governor-urges-senate-crossbench-to-pass-tax-cuts-20190611-p51wio.html
Savers have battled deposit rates fractionally above inflation since 2016, and the RBA cut means depositors are now going backwards in real terms. But the RBA says their pain is for the greater good, writes Jonathan Shapiro.
https://www.outline.com/TGdnPr
Dutton has attacked the integrity of a key crossbench Senator over comments he made about press freedom in the wake of two Australian Federal Police raids on journalists. It’s about what one would expect from this bloke!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/dutton-savages-key-senate-crossbencher-in-brawl-over-press-freedom-remarks-20190611-p51wjs.html
And David Crowe tells us about Barnaby Joyce’s helpful contribution to the issue of the AFP raids.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-load-of-rubbish-joyce-backs-police-against-media-in-crackdown-on-leaks-20190611-p51wll.html
According to Paul Karp Dutton has said it was “inappropriate” for his departmental secretary to contact a senator who was critical of the government’s handling of press freedom. The remarks come shortly after prime minister Scott Morrison weighed in on the matter, calling it “concerning” Mike Pezzullo allegedly attempted to silence Centre Alliance senator Rex Patrick.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/11/senator-accuses-home-affairs-boss-mike-pezzullo-of-intimidation-after-afp-media-raids
Michelle Grattan reflects on the matter.
https://theconversation.com/view-from-the-hill-a-soft-reprimand-from-one-hard-man-to-another-118619
Our Prime Minister assures us that the AFP raids of last week had absolutely nothing to do with him. Well, of course not — he and his Government are never responsible for anything, writes Mung MacCallum.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/mungo-maccallum-afp-raids-are-the-road-to-totalitarianism,12795
Carmel Tebbutt, who is now the chief executive officer at NSW Mental Health Co-ordinating Council, tells us that NSW is pumping money into a system we know is at breaking point – hospital emergency departments’ handling of mental health presentations.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/we-keep-pumping-money-into-a-system-we-know-is-at-breaking-point-20190610-p51w8b.html
Former 4 Corners journalist Andrew Fowler writes that the ABC raids represent a wake-up call to journalists who left Assange swinging.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/abc-raids-a-wake-up-call-to-journalists-who-left-assange-swinging-20190610-p51wbw.html
Ben Schneiders declares that the labour movement has been complicit by its silence about a man who has announced he will plead guilty to harassing a woman.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/it-s-taken-far-too-long-to-take-action-on-setka-20190611-p51wlb.html
Phil Coorey says that in one move on Tuesday, Anthony Albanese asserted his authority over the Labor Party and signalled a different culture to that under Bill Shorten.
https://www.outline.com/yKJWXv
But The Age reports that Setka won’t back down. This could get a bit ugly.
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/andrews-cuts-setka-loose-says-comments-about-batty-are-disgraceful-20190611-p51wj7.html
Lawyers and litigation funders are helping workers bypass unions and mount class actions to settle wage underpayment disputes with their employers, writes Anna Patty.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/they-sold-me-out-lawyers-compete-with-unions-for-business-to-settle-wage-disputes-20190528-p51rx7.html
Did Labor not learn ANYTHING from the Dastyari experience?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/alp-invoice-reveals-expenses-payment-to-chris-minns/11191042
In The Conversation two academics explain five ways the government can clean up the Murray-Darling Basin Plan.
https://theconversation.com/5-ways-the-government-can-clean-up-the-murray-darling-basin-plan-116265
Meanwhile Michael West bestows the “Australia’s Most Hopeless Regulator” award to the MDBA.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/unveiled-australias-most-hopeless-regulator/
Richard Denniss writes that it’s cheap to tackle climate change – but that isn’t the reason to do it.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/11/its-cheap-to-tackle-climate-change-but-that-isnt-the-reason-to-do-it
Are right wing think tanks feeling the pinch?
https://www.outline.com/rj8by7
The Age reports that the former head of Infrastructure Australia says he regrets not standing up to state governments that pressured his agency to keep the business cases of multibillion-dollar transport projects secret.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/mega-project-secrecy-slammed-by-former-infrastructure-boss-20190611-p51wjm.html
Andy Marks looks at the perilous financial position of some universities.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/precarious-position-nsw-universities-reliant-on-risky-income-stream-20190611-p51whd.html
Australia could cut greenhouse gas emissions halfway to its Paris agreement target, and save $7.7bn a year in bills, by adopting existing global standards on energy efficiency.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jun/12/australia-could-cut-emissions-halfway-to-paris-target-under-global-energy-standards
The number of mature age Australians carrying mortgage debt into retirement is soaring and the implications are huge.
https://theconversation.com/more-people-are-retiring-with-high-mortgage-debts-the-implications-are-huge-115134
Nick Miller writes Boris Johnson is the current favourite to become the new UK Prime Minister. He tellingly says that in a few weeks’ time a majority of 100,000 overwhelmingly old, white, affluent English southerners will pick the winner.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/boris-the-favourite-as-pistol-fires-on-ten-way-tory-leadership-race-20190611-p51wdm.html
John McDuling examines the somewhat chequered path of AfterPay.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/buy-now-short-later-decision-for-afterpay-investors-20190611-p51wiy.html
The families of 69 victims and 177 survivors of the Grenfell Tower disaster have launched legal action in the US against the manufacturers of the cladding and insulation used in the building’s refurbishment, which lawyers said could result in a payout worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/11/grenfell-families-file-us-lawsuit-over-cladding-and-insulation
These family members clearly qualify for today’s nomination for “Arseholes of the Week”.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/woman-accused-of-incest-in-fear-of-being-bashed-in-jail-20190611-p51wi0.html
Cartoon Corner
Cathy Wilcox takes aim at Setka and Latham,















Mark David with Dutton’s new strategy on whistleblowers.
Fiona Katauskas with a good one.
From Matt Golding.
A delightful triptych from Glen Le Lievre.
John Shakespeare in defence of Charlie Teo.
Sean Leahy trots out Can-Do Newman to help with the Queensland budget delivery.
More from Leahy.
Really classy stuff here from Zanetti I must say!
Jon Kudelka and the Setka problem.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b8b6bbcfb7aad4e32c989642a6366252?width=1024
From the US
Thank you, Dr Bonham. Very pleased to know that. 🙂
https://kevinbonham.blogspot.com/2019/06/jim-molans-senate-result-in-historic.html
Cormann might find that his famous charm (sic) and negotiating skill might fail him with Senator Patrick. Cheers, scomo.
Morning BK and bludgers
Good array of reports this morning.
As previously mentioned when Setka pleaded guilty to harassment etc., I was advised that the rank and file wanted him to resign.
He had refused to do so, and was digging in.
Hence all the pressure being put to bear by Labor reps now.
Barnaby Joyce has argued the national interest was served by keeping government deliberations private and investigating leaks.
Whistleblowers would be anathema to Barnaby. They might reveal all his private little arrangements over water.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/a-load-of-rubbish-joyce-backs-police-against-media-in-crackdown-on-leaks-20190611-p51wll.html
Thanks BK that Cathy Wilcox cartoon is a beauty.
Vic:
Do you think there’s anyone who would run against Setka if a ballot were held?
C@t
Yes. There are a few willing to run against him.
He and his posse, are going around the place attempting to wield his position.
It can very easily get ugly, if he doesn’t do the right thing and exit stage left.
If I hear more will let you know
As per article linked by BK, The numbers of those close to retirement with huge mortgages is quite sobering.
I guess many expect an inheritance is forthcoming too. But need to bear in mind, that assets are required as bond for aged care placement, and the asset value is eroded over time.
Thanks Victoria. I agree he should step down.
Victoria @ #8 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 7:44 am
Thank, Vic. 🙂
Albanese is a man much practised in the dark arts of wielding his position too. You should see him on the floor of the State Conference!
lizzie @ #3 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 6:38 am
You can add this fascinating analysis of Molan’s votes by Ben Raue to that:
http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38892
C@t
Lol! And, If Albo can give Morrison and co a good going over, that would please me no end!
Could do with some sunshine amongst all this bleakness
Watergate continues:
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/watergate-the-billionaire-the-minister-and-the-accidental-diplomats/
Diogenese
The key point is that you are imposing 4 conditions and your equation only has 3 parameters. The best you can do in that situation is to find an equation of best fit, i.e. one that doesn’t exactly meet your criteria but goes close.
One equation with 4 parameters that you could try is y = d + ae^b(x-c).
Good luck with the algebra 🙂
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/india-has-a-trash-pile-that-s-so-big-it-needs-aircraft-warning-lights?cid=news:socialshare:twitter
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/stepping-up-trump-clash-house-to-vote-to-enforce-barr-and-mcgahn-subpoenas/2019/06/11/a1343cea-8c4f-11e9-b6f4-033356502dce_story.html?utm_term=.352015e39c93
Hard to believe but we had over 40mm of rain overnight.
Vic,
I was just thinking who John Setka reminded me of and then it came to me…Marco Bolano, Kathy Jackson’s old enforcer from the HSU. Honestly, these men need to grow up!
I also think that there’s no downside to Labor taking on the CFFMEU, except for financial maybe, as it was the damned CFFMEU that campaigned heavily against Labor in Queensland in the federal election. Labor owes them no favours at all and it would do Labor’s reputation the world of good to pull on a fight with that union, with the end result hopefully being that the CFFMEU pulls its head in and gets back to its knitting simply looking after its members’ interests.
A long read, but this was of particular interest to me.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/watergate-the-billionaire-the-minister-and-the-accidental-diplomats/
This ripped off church getting $100 million a year from 34,000 members:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/hillsong-church-rakes-in-100m-a-year-from-its-flock-of-34000/news-story/45e21c47b6b5221fab97ad0ba0a6f1bd
Diogenes,
My point about the number of parameters stands but the equation I suggested won’t because the equation can be written with only 3 parameters by writing it as y = d + a’e^bx where a’ = ae^(-bc).
@SandraEckersley
There is something seriously wrong with this picture. #auspol #CFMEU
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8u8t0VU0AAwCcZ?format=jpg&name=large
Never Trump Republican Jennifer Rubin says a recent foreign policy speech by Mayor Pete has set a very high bar for the other candidates. I was interested to hear Bill Maher say yesterday in his interview with Chris Cuomo that he expects Biden will not win the nomination. I still think it’s too early to say anything definitively.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/06/11/pete-buttigieg-clears-commander-chief-bar/?utm_term=.1dbfbac68957
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/scientists-warn-ancient-desert-springs-may-dry-up-under-adani-plan-20190608-p51vqn.html
C@t
Yes he does have a resemblance to him.
Without wishing to excuse Setka for his behaviour, his former partner has not behaved in a good fashion either. I have been told that she is a real piece of work and he was patient, until he wasn’t. Men have a habit of stuffing up royally in this area. It’s like their primitive brain goes into action.
Zoidlord @ #23 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 8:42 am
BK
And looks like the rain is now coming towards my part of the world!
C@tmomma @ #27 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 6:53 am
LOL that says it all!!
Victoria @ #26 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 8:53 am
The old cave man reflex. 🙂
Nevertheless, we expect our leaders to also be superhuman as regards their personal behaviour these days, so, even though the former partner may have been that way he should have forced her to counselling, not done what he did.
C@t
Yep.
Anyhoo I will keep my ear to the ground to see if anything new pops up in this space.
‘fess,
I honestly don’t think Biden will be the Democratic nominee either and that a lot of his poll numbers are coming from a well of affection, as opposed to hard-headed calculation about who would be best to go up against Trump and hopefully win.
Thanks, Vic. 🙂
That CFMEU photo must be very old since they are now CFMMEU. But still …
The CFFEMU reps certainly look well nourished.
What are the buckets for?
I am hoping that the Libs and the AFP has caused enough of a media ruckus that they start scrutinising the govt in the way they always should have but have been held hostage by vested interests.
JW
Thanks. I tried y=ae^bx +cx +d but couldn’t find enough constants.
Legal Aid Victoria launching new case:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/legal-aid-launches-new-battle-against-robo-debt-20190611-p51wls.html
This is very important ya all.
@Shellbell
To put it on their heads I hope.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/legal-aid-launches-new-battle-against-robo-debt-20190611-p51wls.html
I don’t understand this. Their commuity supports them. Is the govt so afraid of allowing a tiny crack in their cruelty? The inability to be flexible is a sign of weakness, not strength.
Diogenes @ #38 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 9:08 am
42 is a constant. 🙂
‘fess
Politico Magazine also have a big write up on him.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/11/pete-buttigieg-undergraduate-thesis-227104
So after being dressed down by Morrison, Dutton shoots his mouth off again, “savaging” Patrick – insubordination writ large and a clear sign of Morrison’s lack of authority.
From Lizzie’s link:
‘This vast portfolio of farm properties has been accumulated and managed by Richard Taylor, of Growth Farms Australia. Richard and Angus Taylor jointly establish Growth Farms Australia in 1999. Angus Taylor remains a silent shareholder in the company via his personal company, Gufee Pty Ltd, whereas Richard sits on the board of MH Premium Farms and Growth Farms Australia. ‘
Is this case of yet another Federal minister benefiting directly (but invisibly) from drought and/or other federal rural and regional ‘aid’?
How good would that be?
Mavis Davis @ #45 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 9:33 am
Not really. I’m sure it’s what they both think.
‘jenauthor says:
Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 9:03 am
I am hoping that the Libs and the AFP has caused enough of a media ruckus that they start scrutinising the govt in the way they always should have but have been held hostage by vested interests.’
Um…. the AFP IS a vested interest. For the past six years, at least for the next three years and possibly the next ten years their masters are in the Coalition.
lizzie
‘ Little Tharunicaa is two today – officially a toddler!
Except she’s spent 16 mo of her tiny life in a detention centre, so she’s not toddling yet. She’s delayed on all her major milestones.’
Except the one where she has had her ears pierced. Not a good thing, IMO.
jenauthor @ #35 Wednesday, June 12th, 2019 – 9:01 am
Their attitude to women doesn’t seem to have changed though. 😐