There seems to be a hardening view that Scott Morrison will take advantage of what he hopes will be a positive response to tonight’s budget by calling the election later this week, for either May 11 or May 18. Whenever the election may be called, its proximity makes this an awkward time for us to go a week without new poll results. Newspoll is set for a highly unusual four-week gap, having held off last week due to the New South Wales election and this week due to the budget, while Essential Research is in an off week in its fortnightly cycle. The dam is set to burst next week, with Ipsos joining the two aforementioned with post-budget poll results.
For now, all I can do for you in the way of poll news is to relate what James Campbell of the Herald Sun offered on Liberal internal polling last Thursday: that Pauline Hanson scores net approval ratings of minus 62% and minus 63% in the Melbourne seats of Deakin and Chisholm – and, incidentally, that Peter Dutton has been known to record minus 50% in Melbourne. Beyond that, there is one item of important preselection news to relate, in that the New South Wales Liberals are set to endorse child psychologist Fiona Martin as their successor to the retiring Craig Laundy in Reid. The Australian reports Martin has been chosen ahead of Tanveer Ahmed, a psychiatrist, and Scott Yung, candidate for Kogarah at last week’s state election.
This is what happens when one party proposes policy that will change the lived experience of others, while the other party entrenches privilegeand exclusion.
I was out and missed the reply. Did Shorten mention potatoes? I told him to mention potatoes in his speech to signal he agrees to my ransom demand…
nath @ #2144 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:31 pm
Oh, you poor, pathetic, embittered little man. Nobody cares about this but you.
Bugler @ #2095 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 8:57 pm
I discovered tonight that she spent some time attempting to forge a career in acting.
You can see it in her delivery of a speech.
Keep up volunteering for her, she is well worth it.
Pity she is a lawyer.
Michael A
says:
Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 9:36 pm
Nath, why keep scoffing down those sour grapes? Contrived Labor “leadershit”?? You’re missing the bus big time tonight, my friend!
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It’s all good. zoomster mentioned that some of the left voted for Shorten based on ‘judgement’. I just went into a bit of detail on that and demonstrated that it was a dirty deal done dirt cheap.
Confessions @ #2148 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:34 pm
And Mark Butler got a nod by way of mention of Labor’s CC policy as the camera panned onto him as well. Ditto Chris Bowen, he got camera face time as well.
nath @ #2145 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 8:31 pm
Politician builds coalition to get himself elected. Shock! Horror!
Nath
It sounds like Shorten knows how to run a political party. Given his position, that’s probably a useful skill to have
C@tmomma
says:
Oh, you poor, pathetic, embittered little man. Nobody cares about this but you.
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Maybe, but I think they why’s and how’s are important. Why don’t you pester Crikey et al, and insult them for their reportage. I remind you that this is not your blog, so I assume posts that go into a bit of detail on how things came about are allowed, despite your hysteria.
It never ceases to amaze me how bitter people get when they think the rules have been gamed in their favour and still fail. Like extremely bitter. Hardline Albo fans thought the 50-50 system was a winner when they assumed it was a lock for their guy.
nath @ #2026 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 7:12 pm
fearful, deceiver,
dim motives erratic
this dream too ambitious,
that vision too drastic
choke down rhetorical scraps
from the attic
forever to stand there
and still just refuse
to change
just change
nath @ #2154 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:39 pm
No, you are telling us things we already know, because if you’ve said them once, you’ve said them a hundred times before tonight.
Nobody cares either. Except for you.
Anyway, that’s all I have to say on that topic. I don’t want to relitigate shit from years ago. What matters is what happens over the next month.
nath @ #2106 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:05 pm
So what are the factions if not members organising around policies or personalities?
That is a stupid line. I expect better from you nath.
Geoffrey Boycott was always chided as going to bed with his bat – which had a hole in it
Nath of this site obviously spends his life in bed with his pillow
ajm
says:
Politician builds coalition to get himself elected. Shock! Horror!
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I know! how else are politicians going to do things? Anyone would think that mentioning that Carr did a deal with Shorten was simply outrageous!
Incidentally, as one who voted for Albo in the membership ballot, I’m now rather glad that he lost. Shorten has played an absolute blinder.
C@tmomma
says:
No, you are telling us things we already know, because if you’ve said them once, you’ve said them a hundred times before tonight.
Nobody cares either. Except for you.
Oh, you poor, pathetic, embittered little man. Nobody cares about this but you
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So you are calling me these things because I am telling you something you already know? a bit heavy handed isn’t it. I mean people say things on PB that I already know all the time.
Just tuned in to Madam Secretary. It involves some sort of refugee crisis and measles outbreak involving Australia. Someone much better looking than Morrison is playing the Australian Prime Minister. An adviser tells Madam Secretary “They chuck out Prime Ministers like confetti down there”.
nath @ #2158 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:41 pm
Except these ‘hows and whys’ are all you seek to peddle persistently. Trying to drown out any positives for Bill Shorten when it looks like it’s trending that way on PB. It’s so obvious as to be predictable and hysterical.
And, no, it’s not my blog. It’s not Crikey’s blog either any more, and, just as you say you are entitled to your ‘free speech’ which equates to virtual hate speech against Bill Shorten, under the ruse of ‘informing us’, so too am I entitled to my opinion about your tawdry attempts, as continuous and everlasting as it seems they will be, to besmirch Bill Shorten.
Nevertheless, I am not so stupid as to think you will cease and desist from this juvenile pursuit any time soon. So carry on. Don’t mind me. 🙂
Rational Leftist @ #2162 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:43 pm
Exactly.
Actually I went into a bit of detail because zoomster implied that the people who knew Shorten and Albo best chose Shorten in their ‘judgement’. Which was a little bit of a backhander to Albo perhaps? I just provided another reason for that result which is more likely and which political journalists have reported upon.
We have one more Prime Minister to chuck out before things settle down for a while.
Confessions @ #2149 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:34 pm
Very happy to be corrected. Bowen was in camera a lot, and there was a good cut to Macklin.
Anyway, the message we all saw was the team, some of the ministry, and stability, beautifully contrasted with the revolving door and exit doors opposite.
nath
You do trust your political journalists, don’t you?
It’s quite touching.
One thing people might not have noticed towards the end … but Shorten said “We choose renewables” …
Nath
You’ve been flogging a tired horse for a long time.
Just let others enjoy their moment perhaps ?
Nath you should quit while you’re behind ………
Wonder what the West newspaper will have on Shorten in their usual negative mode.
This morning it was all “Mediscare 2—————–Whoa!!’ as headline……with what Shorten would be touting tonight…………………………Totally and utterly wrong …..again.
I wish they would take the pathetic editor back East to the Telegraph and his equally hopeless “Political Editor”……………………………….Samantha Martin is it???
zoomster
says:
Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 9:53 pm
nath
You do trust your political journalists, don’t you?
It’s quite touching.
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I trust that when they say that Carr remains in shadow cabinet with the support of the right, rather than the left, because of a deal that lead to Carr vote for Shorten that that makes sense.
And at Chatswood station all the signs proudly proclaiming the arrival if the Sydney Metro in “mid 2019” have disappeared. No connection with the State election being done and dusted surely. I’ll expect it when I see it.
Ditto for me.
C@t: “virtual hate speech against Bill Shorten”
I think Shorten is well versed in enduring far worse slings and arrows than those dispatched in PB, and this sort of exaggeration is a bit off.
ajm @ #2167 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 9:44 pm
Likewise.
It’s well past “tired” – it’s an ex-horse.
The word ‘nath’ is running a close second to ‘Shorten’ on tonight’s PB word count.
Interesting to see the betting tomorrow
“It’s well past “tired” – it’s an ex-horse.”
It’s rolled down the curtain and joined the Chior Invisible.
It is good that Bill Shorten did not target a particular fiscal balance for the federal government.
No macroeconomically informed person would make this a target of policy.
The federal government’s fiscal balance is best thought of as a floating variable that moves to whatever level is needed to accommodate the spending and saving desires of the non-government sector and the priorities of the government (which should include full employment, price stability, sustainable resource use, and a healthy society).
And when the Shorten/Carr alliance has been reported upon by numerous journalists then it gets further validation. I could reference dozens of articles:
Carr, alongside the rightwing senator Stephen Conroy, is key institutionally to Shorten’s stability as Labor leader but a number of Carr’s left faction colleagues believe it is time for the long-serving parliamentarian to make way for new talent.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jul/13/push-to-dump-kim-carr-from-labor-frontbench-in-favour-of-linda-burney
So what is the thinking on Shorten’s suggestion that we make EV tech here? It sounds exciting, but I’m not techie enough to understand the issues.
Ad man’s Back In The Black a take form NZ apparently, let alone ripping off AC/DC
They’re a shocker. All the charm of the Grim Reaper ads.
I didn’t hear it but it seems Shorten has delivered a great speech. Surprised cancer treatment cost so much judging by the reaction of sufferers on social media. Another good policy to be fighting for.
zoomster @ #2191 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 10:02 pm
Me neither, but sounds exciting will suffice. That whole pitch was good – a bit of healthy nationalism (if that’s not oxymoronic), science, sensible trade balancing, and jobs, without all the bombast of ‘there’s never been a better time, blah, blah’, or the cranes over every horizon retro rubbish we got on Tuesday.
I was shocked to learn how second rate medicare is.
I assumed all needed services for cancer treatment was automatically part of medicare. I wonder how any other essential treatments aren’t covered.
Nathpoleon
Its Elba for you for the now and St Helena post election.
An army you will not raise!
Oops “ …. we’re automatically covered “
I voted for Albo back in 2013. I ran the Centre Unity for Albo Facebook page. I thought Albo would get under Abbott’s skin and cause him to do someth8ng stupid. I didn’t quite realise that Abbott, Credlin and Hockey would blow up their own government quite as spectacularly as they did without outside assistance.
Shorten did not fill me with enthusiasm at the time. I never warmed to him personally before then.
But (and as Ned Stark would say, everything said before the word but is horseshit) …
Since being elected leader Shorten has exceeded my expectations in every way. He has united the party. Made the radical decision of announcing cuts to tax loopholes and concessions in the face of obvious scare campaigns and placed the party in the position not just to win, but govern effectively for many terms in office.
It’s time.
“It is good that Bill Shorten did not target a particular fiscal balance for the federal government.”
That’s a mugs game. It’s not as if there’s anything believable from Budget that he needs to match or compete with.
swamprat @ #2195 Thursday, April 4th, 2019 – 10:09 pm
I may be wrong, but I think it is essentially free in the public system.
Any treatment I have had as a patient in the public system has been free, but I have not had cancer.
If your GP refers you off to private MRI services etc then it would cost you and be expensive.