Another fairly uneventful week in the world of BludgerTrack, which has only nudged 0.1% in favour of Labor on two-party preferred and one on the seat projection (the gain being in New South Wales), despite their one-point improvements in the week’s Newspoll and Essential Research polls. If there’s anything worth noting, it’s that the Greens have fallen below 9%, and One Nation are back up after a recent dip. Both pollsters also produced new numbers for the leadership trends, the only observable movement on which is that Scott Morrison’s net approval is slightly improving, for no immediately obvious reason. Full results through the link below.
Boer
Your original post says Australia has one firearm for every four people – I assume you meant NZ?
C@tmomma says:
Friday, March 15, 2019 at 2:55 pm
I suppose NZ could deport the bastard back to Australia.
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Only after he has done his time in a NZ prison, which might be a while.
NZ taxi driver
Barney
‘Boerwar says:
Friday, March 15, 2019 at 3:07 pm
There are about 1.1 million firearms in Australia: about one for every four people.’
My mistake. Note posts above. NZ gun ownership rates appear to be higher than those in Australia.
RHW @3:03
” Every gun is a potential murder weapon, everyone who uses them a potential murderer. ”
that statement invites the inevitable response “Ban all bread knives and motor cars because each of them have been used as murder weapons”.
I agree 100% that we need strong Gun Laws, and perhaps regular supervision of the people entitled to use guns. However , wild statements like the one you appended to your otherwise sensible post only serve to help our opponents in the Gun Lobby.
zoomster
Yes. Thanks. It should have referred to NZ.
nath says:
Friday, March 15, 2019 at 3:01 pm
Even with an horrific tragedy before us the anti-Greens obsessives continue their weird crusade.
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Whereas you, as the anti-Shorten obsessive will relent for a respectful period in your weird crusade?
If so I will take my silver linings where I can, however unlikely.
Boerwar,
That makes more sense!
You originally said “Australia”. 🙂
BW
There are many things I hated Howard for. To this day I am thankful he put those laws in place.
A silver lining from Christchurch for Australia is we will look at how effective our laws are and likely to take action to reverse the weakening of those Howard laws.
While on the subject of guns.
This is really huge news.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/03/sandy-hook-connecticut-supreme-court-guns-nra-remington.html
riday, March 15th, 2019 – 3:03 pm
A few years ago when I was working at Victoria University the Murdoch Press had a student or staff deal for termtime access to their papers.
It was a very low cost from memory although it had to be collected from the campus bookshop. You were issued a card for the bookshop staff to id you.
As some of the campus bookshops have now closed I am not sure how this might operate now.
Interesting: “Blocks apart in Christchurch NZ, kids protesting for climate action and a gunman shooting up a mosque. The best and the worst of our world, side by side.”
For those who need to know more about this murderer, this link has screenshots of his twitter page and video – though not the full manifesto nor actual video – even so, quite confronting so be warned!
https://heavy.com/news/2019/03/brenton-tarrant/
And some analysis of his white supremicist motives
Gippslander
I see that you have the NRA lines off pat.
The obvious response to your points:
1. Bread knives are made and designed to cut bread. There has never been 27 people murdered using breadknives. There have been multiple mass murders involving guns.
2. Cars are made and designed to travel from place to place. They are designed to be safe for the passengers as well as pedestrians.
3. Guns are designed to kill. They enable wannabe mass murderers to fantasize about mass killings which some ultimately carry out.
Me? Australia needs to get rid of at least two million weapons.
NYT on guns in NZ:
Late Riser says:
Friday, March 15, 2019 at 2:29 pm
briefly
I am trying to turn my mind to something else, perhaps you are too. Brexit might serve. So I am reading the PDF you linked for me.
i will read it too…have some work to do today… will check back…
Uncertain whether I should post a link to the copy of the manifesto-
https://www.scribd.com/document/401945007/Brenton-Tarrant-Great-Replacement-Manifesto?fbclid=IwAR0-p_CxC1BlxbmP0QvcQg1hcI1zwedLei_mlVuvIT6mK1QNrtp89I0Numk
Thanks for the well-wishes, but we’re a long way from the incident location.
Had a wonderful day coming up through Haast Pass to Queenstown, only to find that there’s a terrorist incident unfolding down the road.
We’re in a campervan park near Queenstown Central. As the news has spread, however, faces are starting to take on a decidedly sombre outlook. You can hear radios tuned in to Breaking News everywhere you go. There are worried looks everywhere. This just doesn’t happen in New Zealand. Does it?
Yes, it has. Just down the road.
As Norway was about the last place you’d think would host a mass shooting, so is New Zealand.
But there’s a grim undercurrent here. Hunting is big business. Helicopter companies have sprung up to serve it. For $500 they’ll take you directly to the mountain tops. No need to hike it. Back at sea level, you can buy magazines in the convenience stores with cover photographs of “hunters” posing next to dead stags, holding up their antlers as if the testostetone had already passed into the killer’s bloodstream. Guns are, in some circles here, a way of life. A raison d’être. Even the luvvies, the crystal worshippers, the tree huggers, endorse hunting. It’s “natural”. Did you know that?
Hunting means guns. Guns means idiots. Idiots means, eventually, death.
So disappointing to see people spreading the work of this mass murderer.
Meanwhile…
Some interesting information for people on this site to think about
Since more and more people are wanting to be politically correct
Here is some deliberate incorrect information which should be corrected
1-The united states is a country , not in central America but North America , so it is incorrect to call it the United states of America , the correct name should be United States of North America
2- United states citizens should not be called Americans when speaking about the country they are living in or came from, on their birth certificate and passport their nationality would be classed as United states citizens not American Citizens
3- Donald Trump is committing an offence , by claiming he is making America great ,since there is no country called America , Trump is acting as he is the president of all Americas countrys
Rex Douglas @ #419 Friday, March 15th, 2019 – 3:27 pm
Somehow a Herald Sun post of the video appeared on my Twitter feed. Good opportunity to block the Murdoch scum.
Agreed.
People, including those in the media, need to exercise better judgement.
sprocket@3:21pm
So the ‘shooter(s)’ is a ‘murderer(s)’ and not a ‘terrorist(s)’? And he is a ‘white supremacist’
Latika Burke has lunchies with George Brandis at a fancy London restaurant.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/theresa-may-says-australia-is-britain-s-best-friend-lunch-with-george-brandis-20190305-p511qd.html</a.
For what it is worth, Yahoo, now also has live video of the apparent murder taking one, of what appears to be several weapons in the back of an SUV, and walking towards the entrance of the Mosque. Video stops short of of his getting any shots off……………………….I guess this is just a matter or time……………….
Here is anothery the arseholes have slipped in while attention is across the ditch:
‘Josh Thomas, a former senior policy adviser of Environment Minister Melissa Price, has been appointed chief executive of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority and will draw an annual salary of $353,180 for his new role.’
Worldwide there are a number of gun manufacturers that produce guns with a requirement for a biometric identification system such that only the registered owner can fire the gun.
Naturally this technology is strongly opposed by the US NRA and other arms manufacturers.
Stands to reason that the last thing you would want is to have to link yourself with the gun for security & safety purposes.
Real men want to pick up any gun available and let off a few rounds – no nanny state controls for them.
Four Arrested. Three men one woman. Police Briefing now
4 arrests. 3 men and 1 woman (so far).
Four people in custody according to the head of NZ Police.
Journalist just asked if this should be considered a terrorist attack.
Gippslander @ #2621 Friday, March 15th, 2019 – 3:17 pm
How do they help “our” opponents in the Gun Lobby Gippslander?
My brother did most of the post mortem exams for Port Arthur and Srebrenica. I have have long thought about this and I considered and meant every word that I wrote.
Guns are designed to kill people. Repeating guns are designed to kill multiple people. You can’t do that with a bread knife.
If you need a gun to kill other animals, or to practice doing so, you need to account to someone else for every shot. If they are at another human, you need to to answer that account.
Scout,
Your having a laugh, aren’t you?
And the garbage is always good to put out on a Friday afternoon..
“The Morrison government has appointed a long-time Liberal Party staffer to a $350,000-a-year job heading up the agency managing the struggling Great Barrier Reef, fuelling accusations the Coalition is stacking the senior public service with its political allies ahead of the May election.
Environment Minister Melissa Price on Friday announced Josh Thomas, a former adviser to at least three Liberal environment ministers, including herself, had been appointed as chief executive of the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority. The role attracts a salary of $353,180 a year.
The press release said the “rigorous” and “merit-based” selection process was conducted by a public service panel and endorsed by the Australian Public Service commissioner. It did not disclose that Mr Thomas worked in Ms Price’s office until he resigned in mid-February. He has also worked for Josh Frydenberg and Greg Hunt in the portfolio.”
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/morrison-government-gives-former-staffer-a-350-000-a-year-job-managing-the-great-barrier-reef-20190315-p514ki.html?ref=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss_feed
rhwombat @ #386 Friday, March 15th, 2019 – 2:33 pm
I totally agree. And NZ needs to get on board. And something needs to be done about bastards importing guns one part at a time. 10 years prison sentence for possessing an unregistered guns.
And F@ck the NRA Downunder Shooters Party along with it.
I really hope the Sandy Hook lawsuit bankrupts Remington
Three men and a woman in custody
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2019/03/15/gunman-christchurch-mosque/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=News%20Alert%2020190315
Rex@3:27pm
So did you get a confirmation that the person is a ‘mass murderer’ and not terrorist?
Mr. Tarrant decries “mass immigration” as “white genocide” and says why he commits the attack.
“To most of all show the invaders that our lands will never be their lands, our homelands are our own, and that, as long as a white man still lives, they will NEVER conquer our lands and they will never replace our people.”
Tell that to the Australian Aborigines.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/mar/14/brenton-tarrant-new-zealand-mosque-shooter-used-fa/
Boerwar
Yep, and we need to root them out of our community. Tough laws, heavy policing, and taking them off the bastards, no compensation.
PuffyTMD @ #436 Friday, March 15th, 2019 – 3:35 pm
To which you can add, Leyonhjelm and the Liberal Democrats and Pauline Hanson and One Nation. All supporters of overturning Howard’s gun laws.
Gippslander @ #404 Friday, March 15th, 2019 – 2:47 pm
F^ck the response. The next time a bread knife kills forty people I might listen. I get to fight off a bread knife, there is no fighting off a bullet.
BB
The hunting is much more accepted as the quarry are introduced , ferals like pig and deer. Kill the pig,save the bush as it were.
Lucky for you there are no more Haast eagles out and about looking for delicious tourists. A model of its talons.
He was either very poor at his job (since their decisions were crap) or very poor at his job (because they took no notice of his recommendations).
Yep, all those arsewipes contributed to these killings by their hateful rhetoric and/or support for guns.
Bloody mongrel bastards. They are not worth the price of the vaccines their mothers probably gave them as kids. What a waste of health resources.
p
That must be a very small hand.
I watched a show recently about a true event in which a five foot four teenage woman successfully fought off a six foot three man who was attempting to harm her with a knife. If he’d had a gun, she wouldn’t have stood a chance.
F*ck guns.