After a period of improving poll results for the Coalition, the latest Newspoll records a tiny shift on primary votes to Labor, but not another to alter their existing lead of 53-47 from a fortnight ago. Labor is up one point on the primary vote to 39%, after a three-point drop last time, while the Coalition is steady on 37%, retaining their two-point gain in the last poll. The Greens are steady on 9%, while One Nation is down a point to 5%, the lowest it’s been in a year. Scott Morrison’s personal ratings are improved, with approval up three to 43% and disapproval down two to 45%, and his lead as prime minister out from 43-36 to 44-35. Bill Shorten is down one on approval to 36% and up one on disapproval to 51%. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1567.
ItzaDream @ #993 Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 – 7:06 am
Itza
My story was from 26 years ago and i guess surgery has moved on a helluva long way since then. Which is great.
Word count form Morrison’s NPC talk yesterday. Says something doesn’t it?
Good point Zoomster. I would say that of the three major codes in this country, soccer is by far the most entitled to the call itself football, followed by the AFL, with rugby a distant third.
zoomster says:
Tuesday, February 12, 2019 at 8:02 am
Desert Qlder
Just checked my 1889 edition of Chamber Encyclopedia (love those books) – no listing of anything under ‘soccer’, but there is a game described as ‘football’ — only one.
And which set of rules did they describe.
The rules as set down by the association. ( abbreviated to soccer) did not really spread through England until the late 1870’s, and were not exported until after your Chamber entry.
Rugby, another version of football started in 1845 when Blackheath Club’s left the association.
Before that there was many version of football dating back 1000’s of years, completely unrelated to the associations attempt to codify.
Australian rules another version of football has it’s own history and does grid iron.
As I said, are we talking about the association attempt to screw with the English language.
I often wonder how Qanda choose the questions to be asked. That question was such an obvious dixer that I’m surprised Dreyfus didn’t laugh aloud. The 20-something sat next to him shaking his head in faux outrage, as if he’s anticipating his own franking credit wealthfare in 40+ years. And at times I felt Henderson actually knew the guy.
I must say that blonde Liberal Q and A panellist came across as a bit of a rabbit last night.
SCOUT @ #1000 Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 – 5:45 am
Very much so.
confessions
They were probably Young Liberal plants.
Good Morning
Today we see how badly the business model of the media stops rational policy debate.
From all the media talk you would think the Medical Bill was hanging by a thread.
However I just saw Phelps interviewed on News 24. The questions were actually almost begging for signs of division. Phelps countered with we are all people of goodwill working to get this passed.
That drive for clicks is a huge part of what is driving the division in our policy debates and they have the gall to claim its all social media v
“How is soccer calling itself ‘football’ screwing with the English language when soccer was the first game called ‘football’? And indeed, the game where actually the only part of you meant to deal with the ball is your foot”
The first soccer ‘football’ game was played in Sydney in 1880, and the first Australian football match was played in Melbourne in 1858. I’d have thought the one that existed 24 years before, would have the rights to the term ‘football’.
Zoomster
Too sad.
Sohar
So we’re screwing with the Australian language, not the English one, then.
Soccer was being played in England well before 1858 and being called ‘football’.
Zoomster
Meant to add, too sad for the wife. But for him. Best way to go
Soccer isn’t a sport, it’s a disease. True lefties follow only one code, rugby UNION 🙂
BK:
My impression too.
Rugby Union, at least in Sydney, is a game mostly played by those that went to or are at private schools. League is the more popular variant while football is by far the most played sport by the average person.
Zoomster
No screwing around with the language.
If AFL was big in England they would join in call it Soccer too.
That distant third is why rugby hasn’t changed the way people talk about it.
Its the same in the US with NFL being big. Its the marketing geniuses of soccer that are trying to reverse this natural division to promote soccer as “The Real Game” that are screwing with the language.
I’ve finally discovered, through Twitter, what this penile shaped object being admired by ScoMo and Pyne really is. It’s a submarine. Perhaps the rest of you already knew!
Meanwhile the big news in Melbourne town is the stabbing of Tony Mokbel in prison yesterday.
It follows the same pattern as to what occurred when Carl Williams was bashed to death in prison
The herald Sun runs a story and next day voila.
IoM,
I suspect the “most played sport by the average person” is “none”.
VP
On the day of Black Saturday we drove three hours through areas which, only hours later, didn’t exist. The last part of our journey we were watching fires burning on the side of the road.
We reached my sister in law’s place in Eltham – she was surprised to see us. We said ‘soccer game tomorrow’ and she told us not to be silly, no one would be there (all of our team had to undertake the same journey we had). We said, “You don’t understand soccer players.”
Next morning, half a dozen families took exactly the same trip we had to be there for the match. Their only complaint was that they’d had to detour.
The original version of AFL was first played by the locals about 60,000 or so years ago.
Don’t know if they called it football tho.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/us/politics/donald-trump-el-paso.html
What is the point of these trips to Mexico? Even Republicans in border states don’t want a wall so who is he trying to appeal to? The public can’t vote in the congress to give him the funding and the Democrats aren’t for turning.
I don’t usually comment, but for the record, I believe the term ‘Football’ originally referred to any ball sport that wasn’t played on horseback. Hence all of the codes qualify. I believe all bat sports were called cricket.
guytaur
I wasn’t the one saying that calling soccer ‘football’ was screwing with the language.
The look on the faces of Pyne and the other two with Morrison say exactly what they think that thing looks like!
Vogon Poet @ #1013 Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 – 5:57 am
Bollocks.
Union is the game they play at private schools and other toff breeding grounds. They take a break from shoving crumpets up each other’s bums to go out onto a paddock and wedge their heads between their chum’s bums.
Jaegar
If tautology is your thing then yes :p
Darn @ #1003 Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 – 7:50 am
As soccer is the only football code where the ball can be played with the head… Or, as no part of the arms can be legally ued, perhaps ‘armless football.
guytaur
They would not call AFL ‘soccer’ for the very simple reason that ‘soccer’ came from the name ‘Association football’.
One only has to look at Dan to see the insidious effects this soccer disease has 🙂
The sooner we find a vaccine, the better for the kiddies of Australia
Zoomster
I did not suggest you were. If I was I would have said you were screwing with the language. I actually said it was the marketing geniuses that were screwing with the language
Vogon Poet needs urgent surgery to remove the crumpet from his bum apparently.
Lizzie, would $50Bn of R&D into sex toys sort out the LNP women ‘problem’?
This debate we are seeing on language is why AFL was known as Australian Rules Football for so long.
I guess the marketers didn’t like the acronym
There is no such code of football as AFL. The AFL is one league of the code known as Australian football.
I am constantly amazed that anyone can ever be so thick as to not tell the difference.
Vogon Poet @ #16135 Tuesday, February 12th, 2019 – 9:08 am
I always thought that Alan Jones, Joe Hockey and The Cycling Smeagol were more post-exposure prophylaxis for ARU disease.
I played prop in South Australian schoolboy RU – being the only position in the only ball game where my extreme myopia was no problem. QED.
I propose a simple solution to the football scandal that seems to have erupted on PB.
Henceforth:-
Australian Rules Football shall be known as Footy;
Soccer shall be known as Football;
Rugby League shall be known as Rugby;
Rugby Union shall be known as Crumpetbum.
Problem solved.
Interesting.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/10/opinion/amy-klobuchar-sherrod-brown-2020.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage
The writer believes Trump would fear Amy Klobuchar and Sherrod Brown (if he decides to run) the most because they have what it takes to appeal to those swing voters, evidenced by their own individual strong electoral results in states that aren’t typically Democrat.
Minnesota (Klobuchar) is very much a democratic state.
Ohio (Sherrod Brown) isnt.
Zoomster, my contention is that all super funds operate under the same rules regardless of who manages them.
Correction. Minnnesota is very much a Democratic-Farmer-Labour party state.
Re Lizzie @9:22. That reminds me of another Parliamentary exchange:
Member for X: “The honourable member for Y has the brains of a sheep!”
Speaker: “The honourable member for X will retract that comment”.
Member for X: “Certainly Mr Speaker. The honourable member for Y does not have the brains of a sheep”.
Probably apocryphal.
As Xi Jinping said on hearing the news 😆 😆 😆 :lol; 😆 😆 😆
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“UK to send aircraft carrier to Pacific in show of strength to China”
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/uk-sends-aircraft-carrier-to-pacific-in-show-of-strength-to-china-mr93f5dd9
Boris
The name of the game is “marngrook”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marn_Grook
Ides:
Yes that’s true, but Klobuchar has performed strongly in districts that went Republican last year – winning her Senate seat in a landslide. Also the ‘blueness’ of Minnesota is fading. Obama carried Minnesota over Romney in 2012 by 8 points, but in 2016 Clinton defeated Trump by only 1.5 percentage points in that state.
Reluctant as I am to post racist cartoons from Murdoch organs, we should be aware of what the Daily ToiletPaper is printing in Sydney and what grubby game they are playing – I assume “Warren” is Warren Brown. This garbage printed today.
This is a well-researched article on ‘football’ in Australia. Football could be anything.
https://www.theroar.com.au/afl/longform/the-murky-origins-of-australias-football-codes-525150/
“According to historian Tony Collins in his book, The Oval World: A Global History of Rugby, Australian football was ‘the first type of football to become a mass spectator sport anywhere in the world.’”