Two new seat polls today, with due caution for the fact that seat polls tend not to perform very well:
• The Australian has a small-sample Newspoll from the Townsville-based seat of Herbert, which Labor won by the barest of margins in 2016 for the first time since the Hawke-Keating era. The reason this seat in particular has been targeted appears to relate to Clive Palmer’s expensive bid to re-establish his political career, to which Townsville is relevant given the failure of his nickel operation there. The poll has the 50-50 result from 2016 turning into a Labor lead of 51-49, which I’m guessing is based on respondent-allocated preferences, as the primary votes look a little more favourable for Labor than that. Labor’s Cathy O’Toole is on 32%, up from 30.5% in 2016; the Liberal National Party is on 32%, down from 35.5%; One Nation is on 9%, down from 13.5%; Katter’s Australian Party is on 9%, up from 6.9%; the Greens are on 7%, up from 6.3%; and Palmer’s United Australia Party is on 8%. The poll was conducted Thursday from a sample of 509.
• The other poll is a uComms/ReachTEL poll for the CFMMEU, which targets Greg Hunt’s Melbourne fringe seat of Flinders, which he holds on a post-redistribution margin of 7.1%. As related by the Herald Sun, the poll credits Labor with a lead of 51-49, with the Liberal primary vote at 36.8%, compared with 51.6% in 2016 – although this is probably complicated by an undecided element. Hunt’s primary vote is only 32.7% among women, compared with 41.2% among men. I hope to be able to obtain full results over the next few days. The poll finds 47.8% less likely to vote for Hunt due to his role in the move against Malcolm Turnbull, compared with 34.4% for no difference and just 17.8% for more likely. The poll was conducted Thursday from a sample of 627. The Herald Sun report also reveals that Julia Banks, the Liberal-turned-independent member for Chisholm, is considering running against Hunt.
C@tmomma @ #42 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 7:44 am
And maybe its not the one donut, but that one dozen you ate today, and the day before, and…
lizzie @ #37 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 8:29 am
No, it was a good joke, I am just jealous!
🙂
Not being overly familiar with the protocol, is it possible that ScoMo has already visited the GG and only needs to announce it?
Good, succinct interview by WB on RN this morning re various WA seats, plus a side serving on Warringah.
Early morning full update as I have some “errands to run”. I’ll be back later to continue the harvest.
Reminders: (1) You can change your mind. (2) Still 7 days to go.
PB Newspoll-Poll 2019-02-03
PB mean: ALP 54.3 to 45.8 LNP
PB median: ALP 54.0 to 46.0 LNP
No. Of PB Respondents: 30
ALP / LNP
54 / 46 Al Pal
54 / 46 BK
55 / 45 booleanbach
54 / 46 C@tmomma
53 / 47 Confessions
55 / 45 Dave from Wagga
55 / 45 Dog’s Breakfast
55 / 45 Fozzie Logic
53.5 / 46.5 Frednk *permanent
57 / 43 Gecko
52 / 48 grimace
55 / 45 Harry “Snapper” Organs
52 / 48 It’s Time
54 / 46 jenauthor’s head
55 / 45 jenauthor’s heart
54 / 46 klasib
54 / 46 Late Riser
53 / 47 Mavis Smith
55 / 45 pica
55 / 45 Player One
55 / 45 poroti
55 / 45 Puffytmd
54 / 46 Rex Douglas
53 / 47 Rossmore
53 / 47 SilentMajority
54 / 46 steve davis
54 / 46 The Silver Bodgie
54 / 46 Tricot
55 / 45 Upnorth
If that Steggall interview is anything to go by, Abbott has one heck of a fight coming. Morrison should announce the election asap to deny her more time to make her case and to head off the emergence of other credible female candidates for previously safe Liberal seats.
Hanging on will only make the situation worse for the Libs.
sprocket_ @ #27 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 8:01 am
So the Greedy Arseholes And Spivs Party switches from carpetbagging to sandbagging. Too late! too late! she cried. The third rate sales team can’t cover up the cracks that show the GRASPers for what they really are. Whether March, May or November, The GRASPers will be reduced to getting the votes of the 33% of our polity who don’t give a stuff about anyone but themselves and their immediate family – just like the GestaPotato.
Tom – I reckon there is a journalist or two who’ve been staking out Morrion’s movements (not the toilet kind) ever since he took office.
Unless it happened during the Oz day ceremonies in Canberra on Saturday – we’d likely know about it.
Tom
It would be bad protocol. The GG would not allow such connivance with a PM, who barely has a majority in the house. It would be like signing an undated instrument, or a backdated one.
Cossie is not going to trash his reputation built over a lifetime of service for a Scotty sneaky stunt.
The agreement by the GG for an election triggers a raft of formalities, including issuing of writs by the Speaker, and messages to the State Governors to kick off the Senate elections.
Thanks for that clip sprocket. If nothing else Zali Steggall sounds very genuine, and warm. Keen to emphasise that the electorate is conservative economically and financially, but socially progressive. I would’ve preferred if she’d said she favoured a carbon price, but she is Liberal-lite after all.
sprocket_
Zali skated elegantly around the carbon price question. It really is time for the MSM (ABC) to move on.
Local Waterways. Great for cycling along too. It’s fantastic to see some of the work Melbourne water have done to rehabilitate some of these already from the saddle.
…He is also expected to spend time in the seats of Petrie, Forde, Bonner, Ryan, Wright and Brisbane — all of which would fall to Labor under current polling…
Lazy journalist, or do they actually think this. Brisbane on 6.0% sure, given inner city. But is Wright really within the frame of a 9.6% swing??
sprocket_
I was just thinking during yesterday’s ‘interbellum’ that the accidental uncoupling of January 26th and the holiday on the 28th had somewhat muted the normal right wing hysteria.
Next year Sunday-Monday. Good.
And Steggall has a large-ish social media following behind her.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtIpelqH7VC/
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/companies/tax-dodgers/citic-resources-australia-pty-ltd-2019/
Late Riser, you asked last night if there was a link to the previous Herbert seat poll. Hopefully this works.
https://outline.com/aEV8vb
And I don’t think this has helped the LNP candidate.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-05/townsville-lnp-candidate-apologises-for-outburst-against-muslims/10687358
Rocket Rocket:
We were only saying yesterday that this year we haven’t seen one car with Australian flags draped over it or attached to the windows. Normally they’re everywhere, but not this year.
I’d like to think people are put off by the culture wars played by Liberals around the day.
PVO sees the new Wahini of Warringah as a credible representation of the battle between progressive and conservatives on social policies including climate change, homsexual reform and the role of women in Parliament.
Looks like the moderates are trying to take back the party from outside.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/peter-van-onselen/battle-for-warringah-pits-competing-liberal-forces-against-each-other/news-story/f7d8d07522ed57cd2fa15b405a7d254b
Fess
It has been amusing to hear some like Morrison running around like headless chooks going on about the issue. And then saying ‘Labor is trying to politicise the issue’
We have also noticed far fewer of those (made in China) flags on cars this year.
I think people have been put off by the far right and Nazi sympathizers draping themselves in Australian flags over the last one to two years, and “waving flag patriotism” has now got some significant negative connotations to it as a result.
Confessions @ #67 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 9:14 am
I happened to see a Palmer advert yesterday. Total rubbish.
Rocket Rocket @ #70 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 9:17 am
The problem with Morrison’s approach is that he is trying to divide the community on an issue that the majority are largely unfazed by. Labor didn’t take the bait re the change of date or his little fantasy about Captain Cook. So, he just looks like an angry old fool, barking at the moon and talking about matters no one cares about that much.
PvO’s article for those who can’t access it via the Oz website.
https://outline.com/gPfWwa
I only saw the one Australian flag, stuck into the hairband of an Asian-Australian nurse who was waiting for the patient who had overdosed at a music festival to be wheeled into the hospital. It looked cute and displayed the requisite amount of respect, support and irreverence. 🙂
Spot on.
@TheKouk
13h13 hours ago
From what I can see, Zali Steggall will not support the reforms of negative gearing, capital gains tax, imputed dividend refunds & she supports company tax cuts for big business
A few inches to the left of Tony Abbott is still ultra conservative
(Temporary delay on errands.) I agree. And wars of attrition can take a while. 🙂
Greensborough Growler @ #67 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 8:16 am
I don’t think people will be that enthusiastic about new roads being announced either. Everyone knows that they all eventually end up filling up with traffic from commuters having to live further and further out of the cities if they want to have a decent lifestyle for their family and to be able to afford a home.
I don’t know about anyone else, but seeing pimped up utes with ginormous flags (yes plural) hanging off them makes me cringe. I don’t know why they aren’t out there this year, but I don’t miss seeing them.
Often pvo’s articles can be accessed via his twitter posts even though you can’t get them via The Australian website. The advantage over outline is you get to read the comments. He is regarded by most of the commenters in The Australian as a dangerous communist! The hysteria in the comments is amusing if at times a bit disturbing.
Late Riser,
Would you log me in for 55-45 in the Newspoll?
Thanks for your work LR. Put me down for 54/ 46. ( head,not heart.)
Just got back from the Mackay region and talking to locals- everyone I spoke to, including my daughters outlaws, reckon Christensen is a goner. Apparently the local State LNP MP , Jason Costigan, has been working behind the lines on the numbers to replace him as the Federal member. It appears that he has held off a direct challenge, possibly thinking George will lose anyway and he will be a preselection shoe-in with his recognition factor as the local MP. Christensen would be a goner with a swing less than 1%.
Mavis Smith @ #2 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 6:52 am
I can’t believe there are still people who haven’t opted out of this shambles 🙁
Media reform essential. Australia this means you:
One important step to challenge this would be media reform. He says that the internet and corporate ownership of local media have “basically gutted the ability of local newspapers to cover local news, gutted the ability of larger newspapers to do consumer and investigative reporting”. Social media, a paradise for conspiracy theorists, is filling the gap.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/27/american-exceptionalism-has-to-die-david-neiwert-on-the-rise-of-the-far-right
Some interesting views about Venezuela that i havent seen from mainstream media;
Venezuela Propaganda Debunked – People Are Against Coup (Jimmy Dore Show)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMplqEpfGhs
Steggall is going to fight this campaign on the issues of her choice.
It won’t help her campaign were she to embrace policies antithetical to the desires of her electorate. One of her arguments today was that Abbott voted against the Homsexual marriage bill even though 75% of the Warringah electorate voted in favor in the Plebescite.
If labor has a majority in the Parliament, then her opinions on economic matters may not be that important. However, if she aims to work with Labor regarding Climate change reform to implement real change then that can’t be a bad thing. People who work co-operatively on an important issue can usually work together on other more contentious issues.
However, Steggall’s aim seems to be to represent the views of her electorate.
Late Riser,
Labor 53 to 47 in next Newspoll, but will blow out to 55-45 once parliament sits (if it does).
GG
I would vote for Steggall just to get rid of Abbott. Luckily I won’t have to make the choice.
Sorry to disappoint you guys there will be no election till May
Onebobsworth @ #80 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 8:34 am
So am I right in thinking that Costigan is looking to the election after this one? (Got your 54/46. )
In Sydney, I’ve seen a few flags on cars but not that many as usual. I “feel” (don’t “know”) that the Right have appropriated the flag for use as one of their virtue signals. Possibly many now feel uncomfortable displaying it outside of official use.
Late Riser, my guess is 55-45.
“Sorry to disappoint you guys there will be no election till May”
It’s been brought forward from November?
But seriously, I agree. Scott wants to pick more fights over security, asylum seekers and culture war issues, plant some time bombs and splash lots of money around before going to the people.
BK
Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 7:58 am
Comment #26
I have been trying to sort out this problem.
Item
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/immigration/un-to-continue-fight-against-australias-border-policies/news-story/8a48a28c051c16543d7c18b31492a007
I have found that using Firefox with a tab for Outline.com essentially results in zip results.
Checking Chrome now. Coffee all round. ☕☕☕
Chrome – No go.
Outline has gone dead in Firefox down periscope and reload Torpedoes Tubes (restart computer).
Internet Explorer Yes https://outline.com/9DM6u5
(b)
Microsoft Edge Yes
https://outline.com/9DM6u5
See what you think. I have to water my pot plants (can’t my my lawn because it is now either really brown and struggling or giving up the ghost). 😇 😎
GG
Australia needs a reasonable opposition.
Wayne
Morrison is in for a World of pain if it isn’t March.
lizzie @ #87 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 6:39 am
I’d vote for her too if it meant sending Abbott into retirement.
Outline works for me on that url from firefox, im using Linux though.
frednk;
I agree it can only get worse as new enemies of the LNP organize in seats Labor cant win (like Stegall), and others get more annoyed at LNP for making them wait.
But that sort of self-sabotage seems to be what the LNP specialise in, am eager to see if there is a press conference tomorrow morning to call it.
frednk @ #94 Monday, January 28th, 2019 – 9:47 am
Indeed. Part of me wants March, to put an end to this farce as soon as possible … but part of me wants May, to see them inflict as much damage on themselves as possible and make them unelectable for decades to come.
Does that make me a bad person? 🙂
With govt reopening, Congress can come back to work. I’m hoping the House Intel Committee will move into gear as well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/27/us/politics/shutdown-congress-trump-wall.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage