The return of Essential Research provided the BludgerTrack mill with its first grist for the new year, but the model is at its least robust when it only has one data point to play with after a long gap. This means BludgerTrack strongly follows the lead of a poll that was less bad for the Coalition than their usual form, resulting in a substantial reduction in Labor’s still commanding lead on two-party preferred. Labor is also down six on the seat projection – one in each mainland state and two in Queensland. The Essential poll also included a new set of numbers for the leadership ratings, and these produced a weak result for Bill Shorten that has blunted his recent improving trend. Full results through the link below.
This meme is certainly getting a running here and in the real world.
RDN was invited to be interviewed about pill testing. Karvelas, as the interviewer, asked the questions. She then strayed into other areas.
RDN being the polite and civil person he is, answered her questions.
Yeah Upnorth and the ‘left’ down south (in reality the faux left identity warriors) derided the QLD Labor Party as being right wing.
Sometimes the computer-generated subtitles on TV are more than mildly amusing. Melbourne ABC News (Tamara Oudyn) had an item on contractors working in Canberra. It showed up as “coon borough” on the screen!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWIXZzg2KJI
Rex Douglas @ #2843 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 6:05 pm
You’ve really got your glib idiot hat on today, haven’t you?
Democratic Socialist political parties are a completely different thing to Socialist political parties.
Democratic Socialists are sane.
Socialists are delusional and unable to learn from their own history of failure.
@ Clem Atlee
Queensland Labor has been well served by good Premiers in the Modern Era. Goss, Beattie, Bligh and Palaszcuk (3 right one left (Bligh) – Bligh sold off the coal railways) have taken a path to defend state assets that benefit the collective State.
Maybe that’s why Labor has been in power for 25 out of 30 years this year.
Pegasus @ #2899 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 3:18 pm
And having been briefed on the content of the interview, as they are, before could have mentioned the absence if he wanted to make comment on it.
Campbell “Mini Tony” Newman was a great help.
Oh, great, the world’s going to burn but at least we’ll keep our manners.
Scotty shows some self awareness..
.@ScottMorrisonMP: Those who want to engage in judgements of things that happened 250 years ago and ignore the context of the period do history and themselves a disservice … Sure, James Cook made some mistakes. Who doesn’t?
LongMemory82 @ #2405 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 5:55 am
What’s important is that the L/NP are going to have to allocate very scarce resources to a seat that Labor considers unwinnable.
The all night vigil starts at 8pm on the 25th Jan at Barangaroo with the lighting of a fire. Stay all night, listen, watch, wait.
On the morning of the 26th, in front of the ALWAYS sculpture (always was, always will be), from 8.30 a three hr concert and story telling.
The Vigil
https://www.sydneyfestival.org.au/events/the-vigil?utm_source=Sydney+Festival&utm_campaign=cfdc5ec86f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_01_03_10_22_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a8802d7bba-cfdc5ec86f-334958645
Was and will be.
https://www.sydneyfestival.org.au/events/was-and-will-be?utm_source=Sydney+Festival&utm_campaign=cfdc5ec86f-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_01_03_10_22_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a8802d7bba-cfdc5ec86f-334958645
(Sydney Festival)
Of course, the logic of z, is every time any politician of any persuasion is interviewed about anything by anyone, anytime, anywhere, if they don’t mention, say for example, the environment then, well, that’s just not okay.
Shorten has been interviewed on any number of issues and topics. Has he mentioned the environment in every one of those interviews, every day, every time, everywhere?
What do some people say around here – *crickets*
Bugler @ #2857 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 6:29 pm
I don’t oppose unionism. I oppose union leadership that sells out their members.
The gambling industry doesn’t need propping up. It needs regulation ($1 maximum bets).
Any other mistruths you wish to peddle… ?
grimace @ #2910 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 3:34 pm
I see she worked on the Newcastle CBD light rail which from the reports here is a bit of a dud.
So it sounds like she has the skill set of a Liberal. 🙂
Yes, unlike Labor neo-libs who refuse to lift newstart and support cuts to new immigrant welfare
Peg
I haven’t listened to the RDN interview. Did he not make mention of the water scandal ?
Another Scomo masterstroke:
Quoted in his local paper, the South Coast Register, Mr Schultz said his father would be speechless and warned that Mr Morrison had taken the Liberal Party “to the days of Eddie Obeid and the faceless men of Labor”.
“To turn their backs on the democratic principles of this party is quite frankly extraordinary and without precedent in this party’s history,” Mr Schultz said.
“Here in Australia apparently the Liberal Party has thrown it (democracy) out the door. I’m angry and I’m disappointed they have betrayed the people of Gilmore”.
The division over Australia day keeps growing. The bogans will erupt first, as always.
lizzie @ #2869 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 6:48 pm
oh lizzie
lol
RD
Listen for yourself. I supplied the link upstream on previous page.
The environment was not on Kavelas’ (sp?) agenda.
The Tories are right, Labor are moving to the real left and that is going to make some posters on here very uncomfortable. They may well start boosting some new ‘centrist’ party.
guytaur @ #2460 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 7:33 am
I assume then you’ve joined the Labor party and are working through the internal processes to get this issue voted on by National Executive or National Conference?
I speculate when RDN is invited to talk about environmental issues, someone will come along to bag him because he didn’t talk about negative gearing, or asylum seekers, or housing affordability, or the increasing inequality in our society, or any other of the 1000 issues not on the interviewer’s agend or reason for extending an invitation.
Pegasus
With all due respect, the Greens maintain that they are THE Party of the environment. Unfortunately Di Natale has been very vocal about a range of other issues, in contrast to Bob Brown for example.
Brown lived and breathed environmental issues, being from Tasmania where environmental issues (e.g. logging and dams are) are physically very close to where the majority of Tasmanian people live.
I saw the Gordon below Franklin protest in the forest where our tour boat operator was ferrying supplies to the protesters. I’ve also seen the Murchison Highway going south from Burnie to the West Coast where a very narrow strip of remnant forest was kept to try and convince the tourists that logging was not occurring. The tourists were not encouraged to use a nearby parallel road south from Burnie where there was a barren landscape due to complete tree felling of native forests.
Under Di Natale, the Greens are doing very poorly advocating for the environment.
mikehilliard @ #2917 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 7:47 pm
It’s pure bastardry to insist Australia Day remains on a day that offends so many of our first peoples.
It’s a clear example of failed leadership.
steve,
Shultz is clearly entitled to be peeved. However, this decision to disendorse him and parachute a novice in to the seat may be a part of a Morrison cunning plan to help him win the seat. They’d be banking on a protest/sympathy vote for the endorsed candidate and hope that he can win off the back of Liberal preferences.
It doesn’t make much sense. But, Baldrick surviced for a long time.
Clem: “E. G. Theodore, so Briefly, GG, and Boerwar are female are they? Didn’t know that. Thanks for the insight.”
I was principally referring to last night’s episode (or perhaps just looking for an excuse to recite the “Not Noel Coward” song). I wasn’t aware of your attacks on Briefly, GG, and Boerwar and I apologise for the inference I drew
That’s grossly overstating it.
I’d say they could put more focus on the environment at the moment.
Although I would love Shorten to put climate change front and centre, he at least did something in response to fish deaths.
The leader of the Greens, Australia’s environmental party….crickets.
Rex Douglas
I think the recognition of first peoples on Australia day is one of the few general agreements here.
Clem: “Mundine was never Labor, he was only ever for himself, that much is pretty clear. He has the front to say that the Labor party has changed, that it is not the party he joined. Thank god for that then.”
Mr Mundine seems to be a genuine believer in “trickle down economics”. Not as in, “here’s something we can use to defraud the common wealth”, but as in “it actually works”
There’s always one, I suppose…
Steve Davis
It’s about time you faced the truth about our Great PM Morrison will call the next election in November 2019 and will go on to win the that election by a landslide and ALP will be in opposition
That’s okay EG, I’m no snowflake, you can say whatever you like and draw whatever inference you like, it’s water of a duck’s back to me. No apology required.
The rich are starting to cry and beg over their tax loopholes:
Robert Gottliebsen (Oz)
Dear Bill: Don’t let Chris Bowen blow it on franking credits.
Today I feel the need to write an open letter to opposition leader Bill Shorten:
Dear Bill, your treasurer-in-waiting Chris Bowen has allowed himself to be advised by a group of people who did not understand how franking credits work in 2019, relying instead on old, outdated tax data.
They led him to devise what is arguably the worst taxation measure proposed in Australia since Harold Holt announced plans to drop tax deductibility for interest payments in November 1960
Most ALP people now know that Chris has made a mistake.
I suspect he also knows, but can’t bring himself to admit the error. So he’s now descending into emotion — a sure sign of a person in trouble.
If the Coalition is stupid enough to call a May House of Representative election, you will be prime minister with a huge majority. Most people agree that the Coalition’s three prime minister stint is a national disgrace and accordingly a vast number of Australians want to punish them. It would not matter what your policies were (or theirs), those angry Australians will put you in the lodge.
I don’t think the Coalition is smart enough to manoeuvre the parliament so that the House of Representatives election in held in November. But on the off chance that they’ll hold out for a November poll, Australians will, of course, vent their fury by decimating the Coalition Senate membership. But then the November election will then be about issues.
Except in situations of extreme voter anger, I don’t think any party in the developed world could be elected after a campaign based on the ALP’s retirement and pensioner tax (RPT). And as I will explain below, Bowen’s negative gearing plan is not in the same category as RPT.
I want good government for Australia and it’s important for the nation that both parties are able to govern. Part of the job of being prime minister is recognising when a minister has made an honest mistake and then helping that minister in the rectification process. Accordingly, Bill, that makes Chris’ mistake a test for you and not just your treasurer-in-waiting.
Paul Keating introduced dividend franking to avoid double taxation on company profits. It was brilliant policy. The idea was that wherever you earned a business profit, as a sole trader or as a large public company, there would be a similar rate of taxation.
When he introduced the policy, it’s true that franking credits had to be offset against earned or other investment income.
But over time we introduced a retirement system where low income/ asset people would still receive the pension. And, up to a limit, pensions from superannuation funds would be tax free. The cash franking credits became an integral part of that system and abolishing them requires major changes to the retirement system.
Not only did Chris not propose the required retired retirement system changes, but he’s dividing retirees with exactly the same assets and income into two baskets — those who receive cash franking credits and those that do not. The retirees who are to receive cash franking credits have their assets invested with industry funds and some big retail funds. The rest miss out.
Taxing people on the basis of who manages their money is without precedent in the developed world. I don’t think there is an Australian, including yourself, who would agree with such a policy. The fact that the big superannuation funds have non-retired members whom the retirees can sponge on to get their cash franking credits will cut no ice with anyone.
I don’t think leaders in the industry fund movement, including the likes of the likes of Greg Combet, Steve Bracks and Ian Silk, will want their funds carrying the long term tarnish of money obtained so unfairly. It always comes back to bite you and they are already winning fair and square.
And on the same theme, pensioners who were pensioners on a certain date will obtain cash franking credits but those that come after miss out and are therefore subject to RPT. It’s just wrong.
If the ALP is unhappy about franking credits and needs to raise money, then there are two clear courses: stop the racket that enables international shareholders to illegally obtain franking credits (I can’t imagine why the Coalition has not done this) or simply reduce the franking credits benefit to everyone (Australians might receive, say 95 per cent of their franking credit entitlement).
While I’d probably oppose such a measure, I’d have to recognise that it was introduced fairly and that everyone was treated equally.
Now the flow-on of the ALP’s RPT plans are emerging. As Eli Greenblat revealed yesterday, our largest investment company, Australian Foundation Investment Co, as a non-favoured manager is reducing its holdings in BHP and Rio Tinto in anticipation of an ALP government and Chris Bowen is emotionally telling Australians to invest overseas. It’s a sure sign of a shadow minister who has become rattled by his own mistake. And he keeps saying he is attacking the rich. But only rich people who are stupid will be affected.
At the moment Bowen is also under pressure for his negative gearing policy. Had the ALP won the last election and Chris introduced that policy we would not be in the current mess. The problem now is that, partly in reaction to the negative gearing policy not being introduced, we have slashed lending. The severity of the bank lending clamps is a disaster. Putting the old Bowen plan on top of it now would be catastrophic. You must first normalise the banks and property finance, then you can look at the Bowen negative gearing plan. It is in a totally different category to RPT.
Footnote: The $235 million Amcil listed investment fund has joined Australian Foundation in being forced to in dump shares in BHP and pay an unscheduled divided in fear of the actions of a Shorten government.
The big question in Gilmore is who Grant Schultz preferences. With luck Penny Phillips will get them.
Spite is a wonderful thing! And the Libs in Gilmore are near broke.
C
And the reason why I was happy Bob Brown was replaced.
I suggest you go to the Greens site to find out what the Greens Party stands for and advocates for.
Environmentalism has always been one interrelated strand not the only strand, since its inception as a federated Greens party in 1992.
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Encapsulated by: A future for all of us – Caring for people, Protecting our environment, Planning for the future
and
The Greens champion big, evidence-driven solutions to the major problems we’re facing now: economic inequality, increasing cost of living, environmental destruction and climate change.
https://greens.org.au/about
Pegasus @ #2922 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 3:49 pm
When has RDN ever been shy of talking about what he wants to talk about?
More catch up. Oxygen bubbles for fish. Desalination for bore water thick with sodium. This is a dying town on dead rivers.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/jan/22/walgetts-water-crisis-nsw-considers-options-after-concerning-sodium-levels-found
z,
So you eschew the line put about here, incessantly, by some Laborites … but, but, Labor is in opposition so what do you expect them to do about (insert every issue under the sun)
sprocket_
So Morrison admits Cook made mistakes. One of them obviously was not circumnavigating Australia.
Which Morrison plans to correct on his ‘historical revisionism tour’!
Dan Gulberry @ #2544 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 9:12 am
98 seats mate.
B,
I understand your need to hold RDN to unrealistic and unreasonable standards but not Shorten.
Double standards abound.
Pegasus @ #2944 Tuesday, January 22nd, 2019 – 4:11 pm
Yes, I now realise talking about the environment is unrealistic! 😆
In salt terms 300mg/l sodium works out at 3/4 of a gram per litre. Take a bucket of water. Add 1 and a half teaspoons of rock salt and voila. Walgett drinking water.
Clem
What exactly are you trying to say about what?
You’re starting to sound as self centred as the other person.
You are acting like a snowflake. Get back on your bike or shut up.
I’m just waiting for Clive to upstage Morrison with his Titanic2* circumnavigation of Australia and a cruise past Antarctic icebergs thrown in for good measure.
* Not sure if Clive’s ship is still being built but it seems he can once again afford to pay the Chinese shipyard to undertake construction.
Goll, what are going on about? I just said EG had nothing to apologize for. What’s your problem with that? Time for a nice lie down mate, as your going all hysterical.
It’s summer, it’s stinking hot, half the country is in drought, the Darling has basically dried up and fish are dying by the thousands and the ABC will only ask the leader of the Greens, the party of the environment, about pill testing at music festivals?
What planet do these people live on?