The Australian reports Newspoll has closed its 2018 account with another crushing 55-45 lead for Labor, from primary votes of Coalition 35% (up one), Labor 41% (up one), Greens 9% (steady) and One Nation 7% (down one). Scott Morrison edges to net negative territory on his personal ratings, being down one on approval to 42% and up three on disapproval to 45%. Bill Shorten is respectively down one to 36% and up one to 51%. Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is 44-36, narrowing from 46-34. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1731.
Peter Stanton
Yes it was certainly a highlight. 🙂 Fraser was desperate in that Drover’s dog election. Kind of like the LNP are now. Its why I think Labor are going to be in power for a while.
Tax is hitting them in a different way to under the harbour schemes did but the link between the top end of town and looking after you mates is there. Again highlighted by the LNP attacking unions.
Then you add in the division being openly displayed I do think its like Labor getting the DLP split thing happening
a r @ #1622 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 11:14 am
Over and over again I have found, as an employee, that the one thing the administration is short of, is what they insist on.
As just one example, when they emphasise the importance of loyalty to the organisation, watch your back, you can expect nothing of the kind from those making the statement.
a r @ #1746 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 1:11 pm
easily
Vogon Poet
I love the way that officials are dutifully pursuing the Plan and now poor misunderstood Potato has to pull them into line.
Boerwar, socialism is the public ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange. Always has been, always will be. Oh I get it, you prefer weasel terms such as social democracy. Now THAT, is a meaningless label!
Yeah. I dont read the Oz anymore. I am thus much more pleasant to be around and am nicer to the cat.
Vogon Poet @ #1747 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:09 pm
Bill Shorten should have the courage to do three things if he becomes PM.
1. Scrap offshore processing.
2. Scrap the $100,000,000,000 purchase of submarines.
3. Invest in more patrol vessels/personnel for safe boat turnbacks.
Where will it end. Now the Government wants to encrpt your lunch!
guytaur @ #1707 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 12:28 pm
It does have to be an image search, though. If I do a regular web search for ‘idiot’, right now I’m getting 4 pictures of Google’s CEO, Sundar Pichai. And none of Trump.
So balance, or something. 🙂
Vogon Poet @ #1753 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 1:13 pm
The electorate can’t possibly be that stupid.
‘lizzie says:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 2:03 pm
Kambah Mick
Delightful evidence that European aristocracy used to send their failures to the colonies. Thanks for the laugh. ‘
Australia did not get much by way of non-Anglo aristocratic failures. In fact we did quite well out of some of them. Von Guerard was one such.
From the UK we tended to get the bad eggs or the younger sons (as a consequence of primogeniture). The latter were a mixed bag.
LIVE in Adelaide the Coalition presents…………………….
SK
LOL
@anderw_lund tweets
Watching this, I can’t help but hope for another season of @workingdogprod Utopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_AhTvYcSYM
One was The Guardian via NASA. The other was Earth and Planetary Science Letters via ESA (European Space Agency). So just a couple of hacks compared to the erstwhile Lloyd.
Speaking of which, did he succeed in defending the law suit on his eco resort venture in Peru? And, has anyone told him goaties are not, nor ever have been, in fashion?
‘clem attlee says:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 2:14 pm
Boerwar, socialism is the public ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange. Always has been, always will be. Oh I get it, you prefer weasel terms such as social democracy. Now THAT, is a meaningless label!’
Thank you for revealing your personal take on socialism.
EVERY single time farm ownership has been socialized there has been a dramatic fall in productivity, nearly always involving mass famine and the miserable deaths of huge numbers of people.ac
Only a dedicated and particularly callous and indifferent ideologue would ignore all history and call for another dose of the same.
Boerwar
Oops. I used ‘European’ in the broadest sense to include Britain. I really must try to adopt the mores of my adopted country. 🙁
lizzie
Don’t revise just yet. The UK could end up staying in the EU. If so we will have to get used saying the UK is part of Europe 🙂
ar
Wellllllllllll
https://www.greenleft.org.au/sites/default/files/styles/new_large/public/public_files/tonay_abbott_announce_troop_deployment.jpeg
It is the Third Way flimflam folk who enabled the rise of the far right. They know who they are. Well may they hang their sheepish heads in shame.
Rex Douglas says:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 2:07 pm
briefly @ #1741 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:03 pm
Boer…as usual…spot on.
Boerwar and briefly campaigning for a UK dictatorship.
idiot
Boerwar @ #1765 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:25 pm
Your idea of blocking democracy in favor of a dictatorship would go down a treat huh…?
‘Nicholas says:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 2:32 pm
It is the Third Way flimflam folk who enabled the rise of the far right. They know who they are. Well may they hang their sheepish heads in shame.’
I assume you are talking about Spotted Quolls.
briefly @ #1770 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:33 pm
You want to deny the people their say though right ?
Testing – Gilet Jaund
Meanwhile the Andrews government announced today in Adelaide they have kicked in an additional $200K to keep the 130yo Overland train service operating next year.
This is in addition to the $300K already given by the Vics.
Dan Andrews was quoted as saying he was ‘perplexed’ as to why the SA government couldn’t see their way for some coinage yet will kick in $$$$ for a ‘space port centre’
Gilet Jaune , … sorry
Boerwar @ #1766 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:25 pm
I remember an article about a farmer and his family in Israel who lived next door to a Kibbutz.
The Israeli agriculture dept kept tabs, as you would expect, on every farm’s output.
The farmer’s production was outstanding, far outstripping that of the Kibbutz, allowing for acreage and people power/labour force.
The Israeli government sent out an inspector to find out why there was a discrepancy, and how the Kibbutz could lift its game.
They interviewed the 70+ year old farmer, and he laughed as he told them:
‘What, the Kibbutz? They only work eight hours a day!’
Ta for the responses on chrome.
did have a couple of extensions notifying as crashing. Will dump it, and reinstall later. Am re-leaning the new version of firefox and may stick with that for a bit. 🙂
Yep the “third way” code for right wing economics e.g., privatization, watered down labour laws, tearing down environmental protection. Boerwar. nationalizing utilities, public transport etc will do for now. Not interested in farms. What an odd assertion.
What was the third way all about?
The so-called third way is New Labour’s attempt to build itself an ideological foundation. In the face of accusations that the decision to re-christen the party and re-write clause IV was motivated purely by electoralism, Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson sought to prove their ideological convictions
What did Anthony Giddens have to do with it?
Developed by the sociologist and director of the London School of Economics, Prof Anthony Giddens, the third way stated that the old class-based divisions of left and right are now redundant.
Prof Giddens argued that reformist governments could no longer rely on traditional statist programmes in the face of powerful global financial forces. Instead, political parties could generate significant consensual support by campaigning from the centre, while remaining committed to radical measures. He therefore advised New Labour not to be afraid of being called conservative.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2003/feb/10/labour.uk1
BW
Have to agree with you there
Well with email leak re budget cut on putting fuel in border patrol boats ,then the Dutts saying aaahh No. then aaaahhhh Yes
Bill will be having a great Xmas break knowing that any boat arrivals can be blamed on scomo and dutts budget cuts.
You carnt make this shit can you.
LOL.
The old potato heads arm didn’t stop him from making a quick media conference,pity about the parly sitting days
don
True. But, unfortunately, just another example of false consciousness in the eyes of your ideological socialist.
The Soviets farming socialists came to their senses, partially and eventually, and allowed collective members to grow small personal plots for the market. But not before millions had died of starvation in some of the richest corn growing regions of Europe.
The productivity per hectare of those small plots vastly outstripped that of the collectives.
Now bill will be hoping the boats arrive.
“Boer… as usual… spot on.” Great right wing minds think alike. Bill and Ben, the flower pot men. No… Bill and Ben made more sense than Boer and Not So Briefly. “Bliblob.”
‘clem attlee says:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 2:41 pm
‘Not interested in farms. What an odd assertion.’
If the ideology is that the means of production is socialized then it must be all the means of production. That includes farms. Which is why socialists keep trying to socialize farming.
It is always a very bad fuck up.
Now, your rational ideologue might think that this is a cause for reviewing your ideology.
But not your dopey socialist.
They keep socializing agriculture, killing off production, and starving people to death.
Boer the master of the straw man argument… and he does it without shame. Yep, let’s equate democratic socialism with the collectivization of Russian agriculture, ’cause they’re so alike, may as well compare it to the National Health while you’re at it. Shameless!
Morrison’s next gig could be stand-up comic?
nath says:
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 1:36 pm
Remembering the time when Shorten harassed a family in a supermarket, asking such inane questions as ‘what’s your favourite type of lettuce?’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kig3zQRxLWU
Even more bizarrely, Shorten began adding items to the woman’s trolley, including cream, which he helpfully added ‘was on special’.
My bet is that Shorten was hoping she would pay for the items and he would grab them after they had left the store. After all he’s not used to paying for anything himself.
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Look carefully and you will see that this is clip was carefully and maliciously edited. What was happening I suspect was that the shopper was selecting the items and Bill was helping her by getting them from the shelves and putting them in the trolley. The Tories have probably cut the footage by removing her saying what she wanted from the shelves each time.
It is such a phony job: you can see that the clip jerks with the cuts just before Bill gets the item and places it in the trolley. If you think I am wrong, come up with the raw, unedited footage and I’ll apologize.
Surely Nath you have better things to do with your time than dredging up dog-eared, phony Coalition campaign clips. And suggesting that Shorten “harassed” the shopper when the clip itself refutes such a claim demonstrably. I guess in your twisted world a political leader showing an interest in ordinary Australians and helping them amounts to harassment. The juvenile coda to your post demonstrates that your views are not worthy of a serious web blog like PB.
And it will take some doing, but this is the first and last time I will respond to a notorious PB troll.
Careful, you will wake the HSR crowd.
I have used the overland. Nice enough but costs more than a flight and takes a little longer.
Boerwar:
“EVERY single time farm ownership has been socialized there has been a dramatic fall in productivity, nearly always involving mass famine and the miserable deaths of huge numbers of people.ac
Only a dedicated and particularly callous and indifferent ideologue would ignore all history and call for another dose of the same.”
1. Farm land is the type of land for which public ownership is least appropriate (and I would agree, not appropriate). The reason for this is that it is the land that has benefited least from society (i.e. its is for the most past just there, ready to be farmed, though of course there are exceptions)
2. City land, in contrast, derives most of its value from society, and in particular the building of a city around it. That is far more amenable to holding in common (commonwealth) that is farm land.
3. Most if not all farm socialization has involved socialization of all three factors of production: labour and capital factors as well as land. Separating these out is difficult, but one might consider (for example) leasing that endures automatically for as long as the tenant is able to provide private capital (i.e. farm equipment) and labour, both at a level sufficient to work the land. This might be as effective as freehold. In fact it could be more effective as it incorporates a “use it or lose it” principle countervailing against “land banking”. Essentially the Commonwealth becomes the monopsony supplier of land to private farming business.
briefly @ #1770 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:33 pm
Rex Douglas does sound like Hacka, doesn’t he? 🙂
Guytaur:
“What was the third way all about?”
It was bullshit from Tony Blair etc. Whilst New Labour occasionally claimed some inspiration from Australian Labor (Hawke/Keating) in fact it had nothing to do with Australian Labor and is not relevant to Australia.
Hawke and Keating (and Button) were builders (like Chifley), though of course with different methods. Blair was a “compromiser” not a builder, that’s the key difference.
lizzie @ #1788 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:50 pm
Nah. Clown. 🙂
Out of interest, how close will Morrison get to the coveted Lib PM target of 30 losing Newspolls in a row if he limps through to May? Fifteen or so?
Boerwar @ #1784 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 2:43 pm
And as you are obviously aware, not just because of the time given to the private plots, as my example highlighted, but because of the care and love lavished on them.
lizzie @ #1792 Wednesday, December 12th, 2018 – 10:50 am
That’s the problem when you take things out of context;
You don’t understand what the person is really saying!!! 🙂
On Australia being a dumping ground for the more embarrassing scions of the British aristocracy, don’t we see a lot of Prince Harry these days.
On the democratic qualities of the Brexit referendum, the UK public were sold a pig in a poke by both major Leave campaigns, assisted by probable criminal overspending. Given the rather close result I’m not really convinced that doggedly ploughing ahead with the current clusterfuck can be reasonably described as representative of the will of the British people.
It depends whether people smugglers read Murdoch or Fairfax.