BludgerTrack: 54.5-45.5 to Labor

A devastating Newspoll strips the Coalition of almost all of its poll trend gains from two improved results last week.

In the week that brought them the Victorian election result, Newspoll has taken from the Coalition what Ipsos and Essential Research gave the week before in BludgerTrack, with Labor up 0.6% on two-party preferred and making seat projection gains in Victoria and South Australia. I’m afraid I’ve been too preoccupied/lazy to update the leadership trends, but Newspoll is unlikely to have changed them much. Other than that, full results from the link below.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  2. Scrptic says:
    Monday, December 3, 2018 at 3:01 pm
    Player One
    “This is perfectly reasonable. Existing nuclear is currently, on average, the cheapest form of electricity, even when you include fuel, operating, maintenance and decommissioning costs.”

    Not if you go by Chernobyl it isn’t.

    And Fukushima

  4. PuffyTMD @ #2780 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 10:10 am

    C@tmomma @ #2746 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 1:20 pm

    What’s wrong with playing the NRL Grand Final in the new stadium which is being built/has been built at Paramatta!?! Isn’t that the geographic centre of Sydney anyway? Or so the developer mates of Gladys keep saying. 🙂

    Who gives a flying fig where the NRL hold their finals? I am sure there are more important things for the NSW gov’t to be worrying about.

    I didn’t realise they even had one! 🙂

  6. Steve777 @ #2840 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:02 pm

    Emma Hussar is gone. I don’t know the ins and outs of the situation but I think that there are far more important things to be getting on with.

    Exactly, but any port in a storm for the beleaguered Greens. Even The Australian. 🙂
    So, just to be clear, my perspective on the Emma Husar matter has been informed by the former workers of hers that spoke to the media yesterday to fill in the details from their perspective. As with the Ashleigh Raper letter it had the ring of truth to it.

    So, nothing to do with factions or gender, just at the end of the day a person who was found to be unsuitable for the job. It’s sad, but it happens sometimes.

  7. https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/premier-daniel-andrews-announces-royal-commission-into-informer-3838-20181203-p50jvn.html

    As a result of the decision, the DPP can now notify underworld figures, including Mokbel and his shipping industry inside man Rob Karam, that their lawyer was a police informer.

    Those criminals could appeal their convictions and could walk out of jail or have their sentences reduced.

    The government said the High Court’s decision threw doubt on whether several convictions have occurred fairly and in accordance with the law.

    “While these events took place many years ago, the Victorian public has a right to know that every part of the justice system acts fairly and lawfully at all times,” Mr Andrews said.

    He said the royal commission would probe how many convictions could be called into question because of how the police informant was mismanaged.

  8. Scrptic @ #2842 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:01 pm

    Player One
    “This is perfectly reasonable. Existing nuclear is currently, on average, the cheapest form of electricity, even when you include fuel, operating, maintenance and decommissioning costs.”

    Not if you go by Chernobyl it isn’t.

    Luckily, we don’t.

    Anyway, this is an old, tired argument – coal kills many more people than nuclear.

  9. zoomster,
    Lulz at how Rex Douglas turned on a dime from vilifying Emma Husar, to being her champion on PB.

    What an utter hypocrite.

  10. Now that Shorten has thrown Husar under a bus, it is unsurprising if any support Husar might have once had now completely evaporates.

  11. So unkind from Amy 🙂
    .
    “Craig Kelly uses the opportunity to again prove he does not know how microphones work……………..Labor has made it’s point though. It’s Kelly’s bloated aubergine rant which will make the news bulletins and the whole place looks like a dog’s breakfast. And that’s being kind.”

  12. C@tmomma @ #2848 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:12 pm

    Steve777 @ #2840 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:02 pm

    Emma Hussar is gone. I don’t know the ins and outs of the situation but I think that there are far more important things to be getting on with.

    Exactly, but any port in a storm for the beleaguered Greens. Even The Australian. 🙂
    So, just to be clear, my perspective on the Emma Husar matter has been informed by the former workers of hers that spoke to the media yesterday to fill in the details from their perspective. As with the Ashleigh Raper letter it had the ring of truth to it.

    So, nothing to do with factions or gender, just at the end of the day a person who was found to be unsuitable for the job. It’s sad, but it happens sometimes.

    So you’ve flipped on Emma and sided with the dark element.

    I give you the NSW Labor right , ladies and gentleman.

  17. Mr Denmore
    ‏@MrDenmore
    20h20 hours ago

    The wonder is the media seems incapable of calling a spade a spade. Morrison is a dud. He’s like the regional sales manager of a photocopier franchise who stumbled into the prime ministership. That he holds the role speaks volumes for the bankruptcy of Australian politics.

  18. Pegasus @ #2854 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:15 pm

    Now that Shorten has thrown Husar under a bus, it is unsurprising if any support Husar might have once had now completely evaporates.

    Piss off, Pegasus, you opportunistic little Green pissant. You and The Greens should talk! But then you always run away whenever The Greens’ record on dealing with staff assaults is brought up. Gutless wonders.

    …And then you sidle back up later on and, if the coast is clear and I’m not around, and you play the victim card. So predictable it’s sad.

  20. Upnorth @ #2852 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:08 pm

    And Fukushima

    Fukushima was indeed a disaster. Not many deaths, though (I’m taking about from the reactor meltdown here – there were lots of deaths from the tsunami). Not even a fraction of the number that coal kills every single year.

    But Japan returning to burning coal and gas instead of nuclear is an even bigger disaster 🙁

  21. C@tmomma @ #2860 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:18 pm

    Pegasus @ #2854 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:15 pm

    Now that Shorten has thrown Husar under a bus, it is unsurprising if any support Husar might have once had now completely evaporates.

    Piss off, Pegasus, you opportunistic little Green pissant. You and The Greens should talk! But then you always run away whenever The Greens’ record on dealing with staff assaults is brought up. Gutless wonders.

    …And then you sidle back up later on and, if the coast is clear and I’m not around, and you play the victim card. So predictable it’s sad.

    …and the vile abuse enters the conversation

  22. Pegasus @ #2860 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:17 pm

    Rex never vilified Husar. He accurately speculated Labor “would be manage her out”.

    And so it eventuated.

    No he didn’t. He suggested Emma Husar should be ‘managed out’. It was his idea. And now you are both so proud of the fact. Once you have distorted it to suit yourselves. Disgraceful trolls.

  23. Rex Douglas @ #2865 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:20 pm

    C@tmomma @ #2860 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:18 pm

    Pegasus @ #2854 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:15 pm

    Now that Shorten has thrown Husar under a bus, it is unsurprising if any support Husar might have once had now completely evaporates.

    Piss off, Pegasus, you opportunistic little Green pissant. You and The Greens should talk! But then you always run away whenever The Greens’ record on dealing with staff assaults is brought up. Gutless wonders.

    …And then you sidle back up later on and, if the coast is clear and I’m not around, and you play the victim card. So predictable it’s sad.

    …and the vile abuse enters the conversation

    And the pearl clutching begins. As some sort of pathetic defense.

  24. C@t

    I think it was Husar’s previous staff who made sure that Emma stayed under the bus. They have finally told the media their side of the story.

  25. Based on the investigation into Hussar, she should be managed out of being a MP as she doesn’t have the skills or temperament to do it. You can’t ignore all the findings against her.

  26. Re Ms Husar

    As with so many of these stories, there is great complexity. What comes out for me are two things. First, she treated a significant number of staff quite appallingly. Secondly, she was treated quite appallingly by some people in the State Labor Party.

    Two wrongs make two wrongs. But they don’t make for smug, simplistic judgmentalism.

    At the end of the day neither Ms Husar nor the NSW Labor Party have behaved properly, although she claims to have changed her ways (which only recent staff can attest to and they are saying nothing either way in public). If she chooses to go it alone, that’s her call.

    However, it really does stick in my gut how the preening, hypocritical, narrow-minded wankers on this forum can go on about it with no self-awareness of their stupidity. Off to the toilet to relieve myself.

  27. Player One says:
    Monday, December 3, 2018 at 3:19 pm
    Upnorth @ #2852 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:08 pm

    And Fukushima

    Fukushima was indeed a disaster. Not many deaths, though (I’m taking about from the reactor meltdown here – there were lots of deaths from the tsunami). Not even a fraction of the number that coal kills every single year.

    But Japan returning to burning coal and gas instead of nuclear is an even bigger disaster

    Taiwan too – phasing out dangerous Nuclear Power stations and investing in coal generation. Taipower is actively seeking stable coal supplies from Queensland and NSW Black coal producers.

  30. Rex Douglas @ #2863 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:18 pm

    Pegasus @ #2852 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:15 pm

    Now that Shorten has thrown Husar under a bus, it is unsurprising if any support Husar might have once had now completely evaporates.

    Yes the partisans will kick her to the kerb. NSW Labors dark element win.

    You mean like The Greens do with their sexual assault victims?

    So, tell me Mr Opportunistic Troll, do you not believe Emma Husar’s staffers’ accounts of their time working for her? Or are you just after the quick and dirty smear of Labor?

  32. Rex and Peg are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

    Bevan Shields
    ‏Verified account @BevanShields
    11m11 minutes ago

    Scott Morrison says Craig Kelly never threatened to move to the crossbench.

    So why did his powerbrokers tell the NSW state executive that they needed to cancel the Hughes preselection because Kelly could defect to the crossbench? #auspol

  33. Tom @ #2873 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:23 pm

    Pegasus @ #2857 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:15 pm

    Now that Shorten has thrown Husar under a bus, it is unsurprising if any support Husar might have once had now completely evaporates.

    Unlike the Greens, Labor doesn’t turn a blind eye to MP’s who harass staff. Jeremy Buckingham says hello Peg.

    Watch out! Pegasus will trot off until the coast is clear. Then return later with a snide swipe for you. 😆

  34. WTF? Never a dull moment with this lot.

    PatriciaKarvelas
    (@PatsKarvelas)
    I have just been kicked out of #QT because you can allegedly see too much skin. His insane #Auspol pic.twitter.com/51KipESXlG
    https://t.co/51KipESXlG
    December 3, 2018

  35. True Greens will focus on the issues, not Labor issues.

    A big fuck you.

    Sarah Hanson-Young

    ‏Verified account @sarahinthesen8
    22m22 minutes ago

    Sarah Hanson-Young
    Retweeted Sarah Hanson-Young

    Due to a deal between Liberals & Centre Alliance, the new school year will begin in 2019 with laws still in place for schools to expel gay kids. Bad deal for kids, bad deal for fairness and decency

  37. True Greens will focus on issues, not Labor:

    Aneeka Simonis
    ‏Verified account @AneekaSimonis
    3m3 minutes ago

    Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton says police will “fully cooperate” with Royal Commission into gangland lawyer scandal. Reform to policy on police informants means similar breaches “could not happen” today, he says. Full statement > https://www.facebook.com/heraldsun/videos/203191260604586/ … @theheraldsun #springst

  38. Such frothing.

    What is evident is the double standards and hypocrisy of posters such as Cat who speculate about, and judge Greens culture 24/7, post countless posts on it, and then arc up and abuse anyone who raises a current issue such as Husar and Labor culture.

  39. sprocket_ @ #2880 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:28 pm

    I got kicked out of the Press Gallery in the Reps once for not wearing a jacket – learnt my lesson, as should PK

    Yeah, the Jacket Rule:

    Eliza Berlage
    ‏

    @verbaliza

    Replying to @joshuabadge @PatsKarvelas @workmanalice
    “standards should involve good trousers, a jacket, collar and tie for men and a similar standard of formality for women … these standards applied equally to staff occupying the advisers boxes, members of the press gallery and guests” https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/House_of_Representatives/Powers_practice_and_procedure/Practice7/HTML/Chapter5/Dress_and_conduct_in_the_Chamber …

  44. I cannot see any mention of how many square centimetres of skin are permitted to be exposed .
    .
    ““standards should involve good trousers, a jacket, collar and tie for men and a similar standard of formality for women …”

  45. Patrick Chovanec
    ‏ @prchovanec
    11m11 minutes ago
    Replying to @realDonaldTrump

    Actually what happened was, China has been steadily lowering its tariffs on imported cars for several years now. The rate was 25%, and they planned to cut it further to 15%. But to retaliate for Trump’s tariffs, they raised the tariff on US cars to 40%.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-car-makers-left-in-the-dust-as-chinas-tariff-cuts-boost-europe-japan-1533901068

  47. Pegasus @ #2882 Monday, December 3rd, 2018 – 3:30 pm

    Such frothing.

    What is evident is the double standards and hypocrisy of posters such as Cat who speculate about, and judge Greens culture 24/7, post countless posts on it, and then arc up and abuse anyone who raises a current issue such as Husar and Labor culture.

    More garbage from a self-interested poster. If you read my post at 3.12pm, you would have been able to see why I have changed my mind about the Emma Husar matter. No double standards at all, simply a reappraisal of the issue based upon further evidence being presented. Something The Greens don’t seem to be into doing themselves wrt Jeremy Buckingham.

    But you keep frothing at the mouth about me, I’m not troubled by it at all. Especially as I outlined my perfectly reasonable position before you and Rex started your attacks. 🙂

  48. This could lead to some interesting places and unexpected casualties.

    Gangland lawyer legal scandal
    DECEMBER 02, 2018
    Australia’s highest court has savaged a decision by Victoria Police to use a defence lawyer as a registered informant, describing it as “reprehensible conduct’’ which corrupted potentially dozens of high profile convictions of central players in Melbourne’s gangland war.

    In an excoriating judgment,………..

    https://outline.com/wnFqbw

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