A weekend to forget for the Coalition has been compounded by Newspoll’s finding that its federal operation is down yet another point, putting Labor’s lead at 55-45. Its primary vote is down a point to 34%, the equal lowest since the 2016 election, while Labor is steady on 40%, the Greens are unchanged on 9% and One Nation are up two to 6%. Scott Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister is down slightly, from 43-35 to 42-36. Nonetheless, Scott Morrison’s personal ratings have improved since a fortnight ago, with approval up four to 43% and disapproval down five to 42%, while Bill Shorten is up two to 37% and steady on 50%. The poll will have been conducted Thursday to Sunday and the sample around 1700, although it’s not specified in the online report.
UPDATE: The sample size was 1717.
Finally the Greens Leader is focusing is the right people (the far right):
Lenore Taylor
Verified account @lenoretaylor
38s38 seconds ago
Richard Di Natale calls three senators who walked out ‘cowards’ – politics live
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/nov/28/coalition-labor-morrison-dutton-shorten-australian-politics-live?CMP=share_btn_tw
Bahaha,
The Housing market grubs are afraid of Labor wining the election:
https://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/t-rowe-price-says-interest-rates-are-too-low-and-house-prices-will-fall-further-20181127-h18f69
How did scomo’s marketing company stay in business?
If I was planning a way to mobilise students to protest for climate action, my best case plan would be for the PM to tell them to butt out and leave it to the adults, and then call in the police to block the students from walking peacefully into Parliament House.
He could not have managed that worse
“Mr Morrison will still attend the meeting, but is now not expected to have a formal meeting with US President Donald Trump after being left off a list of bilateral sit downs announced by the White House.”
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/nov/28/coalition-labor-morrison-dutton-shorten-australian-politics-live
Add this to Wentworth and the Indonesian bilateral relationship, and that Jerusalem embassy move “conversation” our PM started has really paid him dividends, hasn’t it?
What was Morrison’s expertise before entering Parliament again?
It is interesting, in a very progressive, open minded forum some people choose to be vicious, elitist and sneering at those of us who choose to live outside Sydney and Melbourne.
We don’t all have the education, opportunity, wealth, confidence or character to live in a big city.
I moved to Adelaide from Sydney last year despite a great career and home because I found the congestion, snobbery, property and wealth obsession of people in general, and even those around me, was destroying my soul.
I now live on the beach, semi retired, with better and accessible cultural opportunities, and the ability to visit the big smoke whenever I want.
Don’t judge others choices- you do not know their story.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/nov/28/coalition-labor-morrison-dutton-shorten-australian-politics-live
Shame Lib-Lab SHAME !
Boerwar re the various forms of cock-up
There are of course several others at the more extreme (i.e. out) end of the spectrum, viz:
– hit the ball twice (where a scare campaign is launched, forgotten, then launched again without alteration)
– handled the ball (can one say “coal”!)
– obstruction (Pyne attempts to flee the chamber, but is decked by Abbott, leaving him unconscious on the parliamentary floor, with his vote determined geometrically)
– timed out (where by the time a stunt has reached its punch-line, the media have left)
– and of course, hit wicket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSzlxYX7_AE (George Christensen attempting, once again, to take his seat)
We wait with bated breath
Ahh Sydney. Working more hours a week with longer commutes to have less disposable income in crappier weather while getting further and further behind economically.
Yeah its much better than Adelaide.
How cruel of Lib-Lab to treat new migrants this way.
I think Foley might have had some difficulties explaining his decision not to proceed to Mrs Foley.
“Mr Foley had been expected to release a statement confirming this last week, but the statement has been delayed, a senior source said.”
Rex Douglas
What were the weasel words and reasons used to justify this move ?
Rex same same.
Unfortunately, the Guardian journalists have never been paragons of lucidity. Could Bludgers be helpful in interpreting from the Guardian report on this House vote whether the Greens voted Aye?
EG Theodore
haha.
hey Rex, you did note that only 5 cross benchers voted against it.
Does this mean Greens voted with Labor-Liberal ?
Dio
Own petard meet Foley.
So the intro to proposed research has to be in such simple English that even Tehan can understand it.
It’s going to be hard to write slowly enough and cut out all words of more than three syllables.
Torchbearer, I agree. The sneers have fun with a weak joke. “Can’t you take it?” The effect is ignorant and tiresome.
rob harris
Verified account @rharris334
4m4 minutes ago
Shadow Treasurer Michael O’Brien and Shadow Attorney-General John Pesutto are the leading candidates to take over from Matthew Guy as Victorian Liberal leader, who resigned this morning.
Torchbearer @ #1905 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 11:24 am
Welcome to Adelaide.
I am sure you will have a great semi-retirement in our little piece of paradise.
If I did not have fibromyalgia, which cuts down on my activity level, I would be out every other day doing stuff. I really enjoy the Arts, when I can afford it. I did really like The Impressionists paintings display from France, at the SA Art Gallery a few weeks ago. But there is a lot of stuff I can do cheaply or free when I am not in pain.
I do not think I could stand the traffic congestion in Sydney or Melbourne. The humidity of the tropics is good for a visit but not for living in, for me.
Perth had an Adelaide feel about it when I visited this year.
It is hard to describe the feel of Adelaide. Very modern, very historical, very natural, a big focus on tertiary education, lots of cultural events, a mixed migrant and British history, reminders of Aboriginal heritage everywhere, a superb food and wine sector, very relaxed but with technological advances being developed and/or tested here. It was the birthplace of rock and roll in Australia and had the most desired Rave parties in the country. A beautiful nudist beach,
All with an undercurrent of darkness, from the well-known high impact serial murders.
My son tells me that Adelaide women are regarded as the most beautiful in Australia. That, of course, is a subjective opinion. 🙂 I have no equivalent qualitative data on the males.
The Sydney Morning Herald
Verified account @smh
4m4 minutes ago
Comment: Climate change threatens our children’s health as well as their future
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/climate-change-threatens-our-children-s-health-as-well-as-their-future-20181127-p50ik1.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1543356287
Josh Butler
Verified account @JoshButler
10s10 seconds ago
Hearing rumours that parliament has been cancelled today as politicians hold bipartisan crisis talks on what to do about the big cow and further potential big cow-related issues
People used to sneer at Victoria in the early 90s. we were a rust bucket state. All the people were leaving for QLD or W.A.
We copped it on the chin and laughed along. Like men. We didn’t call people from other states xenophobic for their mockery. How absurd.
Just 2 days ago Briefly called me an ‘it’ and said that ‘it deserves resentment’. I’m just paying you back with a bit of well laid parochial bait. And you fell for it hook line and sinker.
Bull. (It’s a steer.)https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46357449
Andrew Leigh
Some just prefer the anonymity of the herd!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/nov/28/coalition-labor-morrison-dutton-shorten-australian-politics-live
Puffy
You forgot one thing, of which one of my rather supercilious Adelaide colleagues liked to remind me. No convicts.
The Guardian:
The Greens are once again trying to get a code of conduct into the Senate. Richard Di Natale is giving notice of this motion: …..
Ahhh the Green fanboys come into talk about Code of Conduct, when they themselves do the Liberal and Labor bashing.
It was also the Liberal Party to degrade the politics after Tony Abbott was Liberal Leader and wreaking the current laws (including laws put in place by the Labor Party).
You know – the race hate laws.
Nut cases because they object to the language in the Senate? Or just because Barnaby’s a fool who loves coal (and Gina)?
I think the way to handle the Senate & House nasties is to apply a system similar to demerit points for car drivers – lose an hour or half a day for the first offence (depending on severity) then more points for the next offence if within a specified period of the first and so on.
O’Sullivan would then spend most of his (voting) time out of the chamber.
lizzie @ #1912 Wednesday, November 28th, 2018 – 11:13 am
Research sustains science. Science sustains engineering. Engineering sustains us. #ScienceMatters
zoidlord
As if. Your blinkered tunnel vision is so apparent re Greens.
You don’t seem to understand Greens Adam Bandt is a cross-bencher in the HoR.
Re this bill it is indeed same-same, Lib-Lab.
Michael Janda
Verified account @mikejanda
51s52 seconds ago
ANZ calls its teams “tribes” #BankingRC Oh dear. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-28/banking-royal-commission-grills-amp-anz/10561454?section=business …
Hey Peg. Adam Bandt is irreverent.
Adam Bandt is member for the Greens Party, not an independent.
Perhaps William should enact a “Code of Conduct” to stop the Greens bashing of Labor-Liberal. ?
Former GOP presidential candidate Rick Sanatorium on CNN denying the science of GW.
Missisipi re-run Senate election early results:
GOP Espy: 50.8%; Dem. Hyde-Smith: 49.2%. If, as is likely, the GOP get up, the Senate will be 53-47 to them.
In the House, confirmed Dem. seats 234; GOP, 200.
Late Riser
It is very worrying that the Coalition keep putting their dirty paws all over education.
Frightening evidence of what the pilots went through in the doomed LionAir Max8
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/lion-air-black-box-reveals-fatal-man-machine-tug-of-war-to-save-plane-20181128-p50ism.html
Zoidlord:
Definition of cross-bench: https://www.aph.gov.au/Help/Glossary#C
one of a set of seats for members of Parliament who belong to neither the government nor the opposition parties; seats for minor parties and independents
12 SOCIAL SERVICES LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (ENCOURAGING SELF-SUFFICIENCY FOR NEWLY ARRIVED MIGRANTS) BILL 2018
The order of the day having been read for the resumption of the debate on the question—That the bill be now read a second time—
Debate resumed.
Ms Burney, 10:48:41 AM. Dr Freelander, 10:58:00 AM. Mr Hart, 11:05:32 AM. Mr Bandt, 11:13:07 AM. Mr Fletcher, 11:28:16 AM.
– 11:35:32 AM
Question—put.
– 11:35:42 AM
Division 428 (This division is yet to be finalised and details are subject to change.)
The House divided (the Deputy Speaker, Mr K. J. Andrews, in the Chair)—
AYES, 96
Mr Alexander
Mr Entsch
Ms Lamb
Mrs Prentice
Dr Aly
Mr Evans
Mr Laming
Ms Price
Mrs K. L. Andrews
Mr Falinski
Ms M. L. Landry
Mr Pyne
Ms Banks
Mr Fletcher
Mr C. A. S. Laundy
Mr Ramsey*
Ms Bird
Ms Flint
Mr Leeser
Mr Robert
Mr Bowen
Dr Freelander
Dr Leigh
Ms Ryan*
Mr Broad
Mr Frydenberg
Ms Ley
Ms Stanley
Mr Broadbent
Mr Gee
Mr Littleproud
Mr Swan
Mr Buchholz
Mr Georganas
Mr McCormack
Ms Swanson
Ms Burney
Mr Giles
Dr McVeigh
Mr Taylor
Mr Champion
Dr Gillespie
Mrs Marino
Mr Tehan
Mr D. J. Chester
Mr Goodenough
Mr B. K. Mitchell
Ms Templeman
Ms L. M. Chesters
Mr Hart
Mr R. G. Mitchell
Mr Tudge
Mr Christensen
Mr Hartsuyker
Mr Morrison
Ms Vamvakinou
Mr Ciobo
Mr Hastie
Mr Morton
Mr van Manen
Mr Clare
Mr Hawke
Mr Neumann
Mr Vasta
Ms Claydon
Ms Henderson
Mr Ted O’Brien
Mr Wallace
Mr Coleman
Mr Hill
Mr L. S. O’Brien
Mr Watts
Mr Crewther
Mr Hunt
Mr O’Dowd
Mrs Wicks
Mr Danby
Ms Husar
Ms O’Dwyer
Mr R. J. Wilson
Mr Dick
Mr Irons
Ms O’Toole
Mr T. R. Wilson
Mr Drum*
Ms Keay
Mr Pasin
Mr Wood
Mrs Elliot
Mr Keenan
Mr Pitt
Mr Wyatt
Ms Ellis
Mr C. Kelly
Mr Porter
Mr Zimmerman
NOES, 5
Mr Bandt*
Dr Phelps
Ms Sharkie
Mr Wilkie
Ms McGowan*
* Tellers
And so it was resolved in the affirmative.
– 11:50:39 AM
—bill read a second time.
Stephen Koukoulas
Verified account @TheKouk
45s45 seconds ago
BANG!
Did you hear that?
That was the sound of the economy hitting the wall #RBAfail
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lizzie, Yes. Universities sustain our education standards. When the best leave we are all diminished. #ScienceMatters
If ScoMo has been left off Donald’s tea & biscuit list for the G20 then Joe Hockey must be doing a hell of a job in Washington.
On the voting for Social Security tightening for migrants – 97-5
No – Bandt, Phelps, McGowan, Sharkie, Wilkie
Banks votes with majority
Katter was wandering the grounds, muttering
Good morning all,
The liberals really need to go back to school and re do politics 101.
If Pyne had stayed away from making threats to the cross bench the whole Dutton issue would have been shaped as labor v liberal with both as bad as each other and simply playing politics.
Now, labor is in the background just floating along with the flow while all the noise is about the government bullying the cross bench and the cross bench fighting back with ” We will not be intimidated !”
Government v Cross bench and there can only be one winner in the perception stakes. Meanwhile labor sits back and acts like the adult in the room.
Cheers
Rex,
Why should migrants – non refugee migrants – be entitled to welfare as soon as they arrive? Curious to know the case for.
Dom Lorrimer
@DomLorrimer
25m25 minutes ago
Julia Banks MP and Anne Aly MP in the House of Reps after a divison
poroti
Indeed.
Wooing the Hansonites would be somewhere in the mix.
Yes, in a battle of wits between Phelps and Pyne there is only one winner…