Two much better results for the Coalition this week, from Ipsos and Essential Research, have knocked 0.8% off Labor’s still commanding two-party lead on the BludgerTrack poll aggregate. This converts into three gains on the seat projection, being one apiece in Victoria, Queensland and South Australia.
For those playing particularly close attention, I am not making use here of The West Australian’s local poll by unheralded market research outfit Painted Dog Research, as I have no benchmark for calculating bias adjustments for them. In any case, it was a small sample poll that particularly low primary votes for both major parties. I have, however, included it in the archive of poll results you can find with a bit of digging under the “poll data” tab at the top of the BludgerTrack page.
Bill Shorten maintains a steady upward trend on the leadership ratings, on which I’m still not producing a result for Scott Morrison – this will require a fair bit of tinkering that I won’t have time for until the poll drought over new year. Full results, as always, on the link below.
PeeBee
Just like sewerage now!
lizzie
A full circle is possible, IMO.
Sewage was a house by house proposition two centuries ago.
We could end up with each dwelling having its individual arrangements without the need for all of the massive infrastructure required ATM.
Ditto energy, IMO.
phoenixRED:
With Trump now attacking the conservative led Supreme Court, I’m sure it will follow his guidance in all matters that come before it, particularly whether he can pardon himself.
With the justices enjoying life tenure, Trump may be in for a rude shock.
‘Ante Meridian says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:06 am
Late Riser,
You are an intelligent person who has analysed the situation in a thoughtful and considered manner. And that’s the problem. You haven’t allowed for the fact that most home owners are idiots.’
Hmmmm….
Psyclaw @ #136 Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 – 7:56 am
Yeah, because “the market” has done wonders for healthcare, education and employment services amongst a list of many essentials.
Luckily the existential threat that climate change poses isn’t as important as allowing a few spivs to make bank trading derivatives. Look how well derivatives trading worked for residential mortgages in the lead up to 2008.
And when these derivatives traders go tits up, as they always do, the climate will just put itself on hold while the spivs are bailed out by taxpayers.
I’m looking forward to that as well.
Re: Eastman – finally but at what cost? To say i was surprised that he was convicted in 1995 would be the understatement of the century. Why? – I personally know several of the witnesses and their personal circumstances. I also know/knew members of Winchesters family quite well and the their trust in certain police officers involved in the case. Then there was Eastman’s self destructive behaviour during the 1995 trial….
I’m a non-populist lefty. 🙂
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2018/nov/21/how-populist-are-you-quiz
@Guytaur:
“Out of curiosity who were you talking about. I understand Nath’s reaction having seen him being called a troll many times for disagreeing with the Labor is everything and anyone disagreeing is a troll.
Nath is provocative for sure. Troll nah.”
Agreed.
Trump has got the country talking about Supreme Court bad.
Not Ivanka bad.
So people are not talking about how Ivanka should be locked up in the same cell as that crooked Hilary Clinton because of the emails thing.
Yet another trolling win for Trump.
@TPOF
Yeah my cousin had similar issues with Fraudband.
Really stupid decision on LNP to use Fraudband, especially when people have higher connections than they already do (ADSL2+/VDSL2/Cable).
Should just go full boor on FTTP, and not let Labor have a “we did this moment”.
But their stubborn back in the past ignorance.
Batman
IMO, Eastman was his own worst enemy. And it was not just in relation to his behaviours during the trial. Anyway, … more millions down the tube while the Bungendore 11 and their little mates in the AFP laugh their arses off.
Lizzie exactly.
guytaur, TPOF, Ante Meridian
Thank you for your responses. So my working hypothesis has to remain, that the home ownership process is a distorted concept, and the distortion is actively supported by blind or tacit agreement among those who do generate income from it. And “The Kouk” is among those supporters.
Boerwar says: Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:16 am
Trump has got the country talking about Supreme Court bad.
Not Ivanka bad.
So people are not talking about how Ivanka should be locked up in the same cell as that crooked Hilary Clinton because of the emails thing.
Yet another trolling win for Trump.
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Agree Boerwar – its classic Trump – when something bad comes his way its then full blown distraction time
Hopefully Roberts has some morals of the public denigration of the Supreme Court and a long memory of Trump throwing him under a bus to distract attention from his ongoing scandals …..
Counterchekist @counterchekist
Noted ppl speaking out about @realDonaldtRUmp’s poor behavior recently:
– Chief Justice Roberts
– American spies
– ADM McRaven
– GEN Stanley McChrystal
– Former AG Alberto Gonzales
Ppl speaking out in support:
– Jeanine Pirro
– Sean Hannity
– Jabob Wohl
Enough said.
For those wanting to see an end to law and order punish the addicts and want to see a medical approach.
Lawyers won’t lose out.
https://www.thestar.com/news/cannabis/2018/11/21/pot-is-becoming-an-earner-for-once-reluctant-toronto-law-firms.html?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=400pm&utm_campaign_id=Cannabis&utm_content=PotEarnerForOnceTorontoLawFirms
My pop/non-pop score places me in the bottom left, non-pop quadrant, well to the left of Obama and somewhat to the south.
I like it here, in the zone of rational social democrats.
So a baiter and provoker can be baited and provoked.
Just wanted to see. You didn’t like it, did you?
BTW, I have NEVER called you a troll before.
By name, still haven’t. LOL!
But you identified yourself, your thoughts, not mine.
I just threw it out there.
We won’t communicate again.
lizzie, regarding cats, if you’re about. We have a neighbour who has a gun license, a love of birds, and a dislike of cats. She doesn’t have a cat problem. The cats have a neighbour problem. (I should add, this is at her block in regional Queensland, not in suburban Brisbane.)
@TurnbullMalcolm tweets
It’s pretty obvious really but following someone on Instagram or Twitter does not imply support approval or endorsement – simply that you are for whatever reason currently interested in seeing the followed person’s posts in your feed. 1/2
And another equally obvious point. The more you try to bully people into NOT reading something the more they will do so. Freedom matters. 2/2
This is in response to people pointing out he is following Labor party posts.
I probably should clarify, my assertion that most home owners are idiots is based on the undeniable fact that most people are idiots, and home owners are people.
Asked about this
https://thewest.com.au/news/weather/dust-storm-alert-for-sydney-as-winds-whip-up-dirt-in-nsw-ng-b881028531z
Morrison said “Labor will have more dust storms and tax them.”:
Seriously, take care NSW Bludgers.
Rossmcg @ #169 Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 – 7:30 am
Well there has been plenty of dirt in NSW politics over the years to be whipped up!
Although I did read that much of it had come from SA. 🙂
‘Late Riser says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:27 am
lizzie, regarding cats, if you’re about. We have a neighbour who has a gun license, a love of birds, and a dislike of cats. She doesn’t have a cat problem. The cats have a neighbour problem. (I should add, this is at her block in regional Queensland, not in suburban Brisbane.)’
Weeds are in the eyes of the beholder.
Boerwar, we are all gardeners.
Cud Chewer @ #66 Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 – 9:16 am
I hope so! 😉
#CommunityserviceonPB
Ante Meridian says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:06 am
Late Riser,
You are an intelligent person who has analysed the situation in a thoughtful and considered manner. And that’s the problem. You haven’t allowed for the fact that most home owners are idiots.
This sounds like the LNP theory on voters. By their lights, we’re all fools.
‘Late Riser says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:37 am
Boerwar, we are all gardeners.’
*laughs*
Pegasus @ #92 Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 – 9:57 am
Ditto. 😆
Heard a report on ABC radio this morning that the staff at the new, privatized Northern Beaches hospital have widened the ambit of their complaints to include the actions of HR at Northern Sydney Local Health District (NSLHD).
These people brag on their Linked In bios about how good they are at “Change Management”, i.e. getting rid of staff. Judging by the many phone calls from distraught staff we have received, the aim was to cull older staff, injured staff (i.e. injured in the workplace), and those who had incurred the displeasure of management, while keeping redundancies to an absolute minimum.
In fact, despite the closure of two hospitals supporting many hundreds of staff, I am informed that there was not one redundancy offered. The HR hatchet-wielders lived up to their brief. Many staff, mostly women “of a certain age”, were placed on the scrap heap.
Hopefully the hatchets will now be buried in the heads of the assassins who caused this cock-up. It was simply a way for the then Baird (who was the local Manly member) and now Berejiklian governments to save a few dollars, camouflaged as “progress”.
Cats are an introduced species.
Owners have to take precautions to protect wildlife as a result. Banning cats entirely is overboard.
The ban cats and hate of cats comes from the idiots who don’t know how to look after cats properly in this country and contribute to the feral cat problem.
Compared to feral cats domestic cat owners are not the problem. Most keep cats indoors overnight. Have collars with bells on etc. Some go to point of having enclosures so their cats can’t wander especially in regional areas.
If we are sensible we can tackle the protect our native wildlife and have cat owners.
Of course thats the problem How to deal with those that are not sensible?
Robert Ball
says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:26 am
So a baiter and provoker can be baited and provoked.
Just wanted to see. You didn’t like it, did you?
BTW, I have NEVER called you a troll before.
By name, still haven’t. LOL!
But you identified yourself, your thoughts, not mine.
I just threw it out there.
We won’t communicate again.
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So you were calling me a troll. Even though you said ‘by name, still haven’t’ and you ‘just threw it out there’.
Because I was barely smart enough to figure out it was me you called a troll now you say ‘we wont communicate again’. LOL. I think Robert Ball got real upset with the ‘Secret Squirrel’ bit and has taken his spy glasses, overcoat and special spy hat and gone home. Funny as shit.
Late Riser
Unlike dogs, cats are hard to fence out. Although a persistent digging dog can be as annoying as a neighbour.
If a majority of voters were intelligent, we wouldn’t have the government we now do.
Quod Erat Demonthingy
Ante Meridian says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:29 am
I probably should clarify, my assertion that most home owners are idiots is based on the undeniable fact that most people are idiots, and home owners are people.
It’s really inconsistent to subscribe to democracy while also holding this view, a view that essentially says people are not smart enough to make choices about their own lives.
I have another view. Voters are shrewd. They are far more adroit than is often allowed.
Lizzie
It costs a bit but there is a cat solution
https://oscillot.com.au/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyoPI0OLm3gIVDJOPCh1AlgWHEAAYASAAEgLxTfD_BwE
C@tmomma
says:
Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 11:37 am
Cud Chewer @ #66 Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 – 9:16 am
Who will you preference first, nath? Cat got your tongue?
I hope so!
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So many possible responses! So many ways to get banned!
Robert Ball @ #113 Thursday, November 22nd, 2018 – 10:35 am
Done, done and done! Ie, Blocked. 🙂
He’s good though. He has a well thought-out back story and ongoing explanations to paper over his continual presence here.
*slowclap*
guytaur
1. No they don’t.
2. Haven’t you seen cat with the bell tucked under its chin so that it doesn’t ring?
Anybody know when/where Bill will give the energy policy speech?
g
‘Compared to feral cats domestic cat owners are not the problem. ‘
I rarely find myself agreeing totally with you, guytaur, but this is one such occasion.
Very few domestic cat owners predate wildlife.
I think that is the third time C@t has said she has blocked me. That block function must be faulty!
guytaur
An old friend had another solution but it wasn’t a firearm.
BTW, I have no cats. We had a pair which lived only in the house for 10 years.
Late riser at 11.22.
Thank you for your responses. So my working hypothesis has to remain, that the home ownership process is a distorted concept, and the distortion is actively supported by blind or tacit agreement among those who do generate income from it. And “The Kouk” is among those supporters.
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It is what it is. It’s human nature, not some massive confidence trick perpetrated by economists and rentiers. The job of the Reserve Bank is to plan on the basis of experience and it’s experience is that the wealth effect is real.
lizzie
You are talking about the idiots.
You notice the idiots.
Yes some idiot cat owners contribute to the feral wildlife problem. Just as some idiot dog owners contribute to the mauling of children problem.
The problem is idiot owners not owning a pet.
Nath – often we get second hand posts from ‘blockees’ via someone else’s response
Robert Ball on the trail of the Spider in Yass
It is possible to be a rational cat lover, a rational cat owner and a rational supporter of biodiversity at the same time.
The key to resolve rationally the apparent conflicts is for the cat lover to ensure total exclusion of moggies from possible prey through means such as cat containment cages.
Nothing else works.
https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1026&context=hwi
Wind ound decibels and wind pitch are both increasing outside.
There is some thin atmospheric dust but not nearly yet at sun darkening concentrations.
#WeatheronPB
Boerwar
The only reason that some domestic cats do not predate wildlife is that it has already been hoovered up by other cats.
It is possible but the vast majority of cat owners do not achieve it.
A few observations about the Private Public Northern Beaches Hospital.
1. Just because it has ‘spectacular views of the ocean’ (which the Coalition government keep banging on about as if it’s a thing), does not make it a good hospital.
2. The CEO of the hospital who was scapegoated this week and elbowed out ungracefully reminded me of the Mother Superior figure in the Blues Brothers movie! I imagine that it was under her direction that the poor, the weak, the huddled masses of not fit-for-purpose workers were moved sideways and out the door. She looked like she wouldn’t lose a minute’s sleep over it, either. But in the tried and true, karma’s a bitch fashion, she also has been shown the door. 🙂
3. Thank goodness the Central Coast community, close enough to Port Macquarie to have an ingrained memory of the debacle that was the privatisation of PM Base Hospital, campaigned and organised and demonstrated relentlessly to not have the same thing foist upon us! But then, we couldn’t even be conned with the line, ‘but you will have great views!’. There are none where the hospital is located! 😆
4. This Private Public malarkey is just a short step to putting the workforce under Individual Contracts, smashing the Unions which are still strong in the Health area, and doing away with Penalty Rates. You better believe it!