First up, please note the posts before this one on the Victorian election campaign and the resignation of Luke Foley.
The BludgerTrack poll aggregate has been updated with the only poll of the week, from Essential Research, which followed Newspoll in recording a movement in favour of Labor from 53-47 to 54-46. Labor is accordingly up by 0.6% in the aggregate’s two-party preferred reading, and have made gains of one apiece on the seat projection in Victoria and South Australia. Essential Research’s leadership ratings are also in the mix, but they haven’t made much difference. Full details through the link below.
antonbruckner11 says:
Friday, November 9, 2018 at 7:16 pm
Nath – you really are a total moron. Turnbull “donated” his salary to his own charity as a tax dodge. The charity only has to spend 5% a year on charitable purposes and can pretty much blow the rest on whatever it likes (e.g donate money to the liberal party or rent a property leased from one of his dodgy companies). How an Australia PM got away with such a blatant scam is beyond me.
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Well I’m not a TOTAL moron, I wasn’t aware where he had donated his money, but once I saw where it is obvious that it could be dodgy. So perhaps partial moron?
antonbruckner11
Not to mention paying the hard working office holders . What luck Lucy and Truffle are office holders. What odds the offices rented belong to some entity associated with the Turnbulls ?
C@tmomma says:
Friday, November 9, 2018 at 7:19 pm
Amazing, isn’t it, how nath is more than prepared to believe the best of a Liberal PM, but if Bill Shorten had done what Malcolm Turnbull did with his salary, ol’ nath would have been digging for the sinister motive.
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I was under no illusions that Malcolm is all about Malcolm. I just didn’t look into the details. Bill is all about Bill too. Just without the cash to pull off a similar job.
Rex Douglas @ #447 Friday, November 9th, 2018 – 7:19 pm
I have just today queued “The Psychopath Test” on my Kindle to follow the current Nelson DeMille – The Gold Coast. Fascinating subject. Allied to schizophrenia mabe.
Sounds like Turnbull’s charity is a charity in the same way Trump University was a university.
KJ
When we turned the lights out at night it was the signal for those critters to come out and play…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j-qtpaU5Ts
gak
Poroti
I love it!!! Every cloud has a silver lining 🙂
Wasn’t expecting cockroach pictures but there you go – never know what you might see here.
Fake dinkum tears for real dinkum kid victims.
How an Australia PM got away with such a blatant scam is beyond me.
How such a bucket of s… could have been Australian PM is beyond me.
are you completely unaware of the Australian media?
Boerwar @ #456 Friday, November 9th, 2018 – 6:30 pm
They are the most wunderbar critters. The photos from the Australian Geographic are, as Rex mentioned, fabulous.
My FD uses fabulous as a word for all occasions and I guess the habit is catching.
Of course the Turnbull Foundation could be completely legit. Anyone remember that Simpsons episode where Bill Gates roughs up Homer and says ‘I didn’t get rich by cutting cheques’. Well turns out Gates is giving away just about everything.
The Turnbull Foundation, at the initiative of Lucy Turnbull AO, Chief Commissioner of the Greater Sydney Commission, established the UNSW Sydney scholarship to help increase the number of women in leadership roles in the built environment industry.
Worth $95,000, the scholarship supports professionals to undertake postgraduate study at UNSW’s Faculty of Built Environment and, importantly, includes participation in UNSW’s Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM) Women in Leadership Program.
I have known a Few people who have run small and slightly bigger businesses and they somehow had much more disposable income than me and paid way less tax than PAYG me.
The serious rich like Turnbull must piss themselves laughing when the Tories go on about tax cuts being important to the economy.
I reckon most of them, like the big corporations, hardly pay any.
Turnbull Foundation donates a cool half a million to cancer centre.
https://www.opragency.com.au/uncategorized/new-sydney-cancer-centre-raises-over-3-million-in-one-night-prime-minister-lends-his-support/
Last night, The Bright Alliance, a leading collaboration between the South Eastern Sydney Local Health District, Prince of Wales Hospital and University of New South Wales (UNSW), with support of The Prime Minister, The Hon. Malcolm Turnbull MP and Advisory Committee Chair Ms Lucy Hughes Turnbull AO, raised in excess of $3 million at its first fundraising event….
Leading organisations: The Nelune Foundation; Huawei Australia; Optus; The Turnbull Foundation and Audi Australia donated $1 million, $500,000, $500,000, $500,000, and $100,000 respectively at the event held at Bondi’s Bucket List. Well-known faces from across Sydney’s business, entertainment and political community attended the event contributing to the funds raised on the night.
KJ
One way of capturing them in sufficient numbers to impact on the domestic population was to put a bit of honey at the bottom of a very large jar and leave it out overnight.
Someone really ought to make a horror movie of the resultant heaving mass of cockroaches..
Chasing down inter Company loans to net them out was always a very interesting exercise
So doing was an exercise to ascertain, when you shook the Group by the ankles, what exactly fell out
This went to the trail of distributions and other inter company payments – so you were not double adding revenue
And the complexities were always for a reason (and not to just confuse a banker)
Such an analysis of FAI saw me shut down their Standby Treasury Dealing Limits when the sign off was transferred to me
Turnbull subsequently sold FAI to HIH – and FAI bought down HIH, consistent with my assessment a couple of years prior
Turnbull received the “success fee” he did
But HIH and the Australian public paying a levy to survive the Insurance Industry did not fare so well
My experiences have always impacted on my view of Turnbull
But he was a Merchant Banker – so think Shylock
And on Monday night my wife said to me “Do you want to watch this?”
I said “No”
Some may hold Turnbull in high esteem – including Turnbull
I do not, and never have
I suppose when you look into your murky shit ridden soul and count the millions you’ve made walking over everyone in sight and your days on this planet are numbered you make the odd donation, maybe 1% of your total wealth. Turnbull, what a hero.
No details but they help fund a homeless children outreach organization:
https://pollyandme.com.au/the-initiative/funding-partners/
Is that for the kids on Naru?
Maybe I’m not such a total moron. Hmmm.
Nancy Pelosi’s Pay-Go rule is economically illiterate. There is a vast amount of unused real resource capacity in the United States economy. The US Government needs to increase its fiscal deficit (also known as increasing the non-government sector’s surplus) in socially useful, environmentally sustainable, productivity-enhancing ways. A great place to start would be a universal federal Job Guarantee that makes an unconditional offer of $15 an hour employment to anyone who wants it. This would increase household spending power, enable private firms to expand production and hire more workers, increase the skill level of the workforce, and generate valuable output. The second priority should be to extend Medicare to everyone and abolish out-of-pocket fees for all health care (including pharmaceuticals). The third priority should be to abolish out-of-pocket fees for education and training at all levels (including very early childhood interventions). The fourth priority should be to build first rate public infrastructure.
All of those initiatives would enhance America’s productive capacity and improve everybody’s quality of life.
The House Democrats need to be led by a charismatic progressive. Nancy Pelosi is trapped in discredited neoliberal group think. This renders her ill-suited to the role of Speaker.
Stephanie Kelton is one of America’s most perceptive economists. In this video she explains the fiscal policy options available to the United States Government.
https://youtu.be/5baKgv7Zl5g
nath says:
Reminds me of Goons(?) line “He’s not a complete idiot. There are still some bits missing” .
So Bree, would you care to acquaint us with the circumstances where 3 people walking down a Melbourne CBD Street were killed by an advertising hoarding falling on them?
And continue that onto the defence of the Company involved including the plea to admit guilt in a lower jurisdiction where lesser penalty could be applied
Then the subsequent findings and admissions
This was a Construction Company where the second generation Director was and is a personal friend of a Victorian politician known also to associate with undesirable characters dining on lobster washed down by Grange – and a donor to that political party, as are others in the Construction industry and who have had their wealth enhanced by rezonings by the very same politician
Sometimes, just sometimes when you make rediculous statements you invite retribution and retribution based on facts
That assessment applies to a few who “contribute” to this site, presenting abject and unsubstantiated nonsense
Oh lord. The Magic Money Tree is back.
Here’s a few more, An Aboriginal mentorship program, 3 30,000 scholarships at the US Studies Centre and the Sydney Dance Company.
https://tribalwarrior.org/australian-heroes-raise-funds-for-tribal-warrior/
http://sydney.edu.au/news/84.html?newsstoryid=6117
http://www.sydneydancecompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/Maud_SDC_Program_pages-v2.pdf
Boerwar @ #474 Friday, November 9th, 2018 – 8:02 pm
🙂
Meanwhile Bill Shorten has never paid for a holiday in his life and enjoys the TAB marquee and loves some free champagne. I’m serious about an audit of the Kirribilli silver!
antonbruckner11:
[‘Nath – you really are a total moron.’]
Please tone down your rhetoric.
Here’s a few more, An Aboriginal mentorship program, 3 30,000 scholarships at the US Studies Centre and the Sydney Dance Company.
That sounds like Nicholoconomical GOSplanning.
They are either going to run out of Aborigines or they will generate a surplus of people who can dance and who know more about the US than Trump does.
Nath you have to read Independent Australia if you want a completely unbiased analysis of The Turnbull Foundation. All those donations to cancer research, children’s hospital, education etc are just a big tax dodge done with mirrors.
Jon Faine shows how an interview with the SIFA should be done.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/mornings/mornings/10462622
Starts at the 26:20 into his program.
Good on him I say, particularly in light of what happened in California last night and what could have happened in Melbourne this afternoon if they get their way.
“Some may hold Turnbull in high esteem – including Turnbull
I do not, and never have”
Me neither. He really is a Prime Minister without legacy.
Except that Abbott would probably have lost a 2016 election (in the alternative universe held in October-November), so there is that. Plus Turnbull didn’t knight or shirtfront anyone. But other than that? Marriage Equality? In the alternative universe that would have been legislated by the Shorten Government early in 2017.
So basically what Turnbull did was to prosecute Abbott’s and the Right’s agenda for another couple of years. Yet they have proved surprisingly ungrateful.
I know it sounds strange but we like to donate, we can donate without suffering an iota of hardship – so we have not been tested in that moral space – and we do donate.
Our faves are medical research, even though we are probably still going to die.
Davidwh
Don’t forget the smoke David, always with the smoke, mirrors on their own just don’t cut it. 😉
nath:
An audit has been undertaken, with the result that there are no discrepancies.
P
Yeah. And don’t forget the smoke rings of the mind either.
Thanks Poroti. Nath yes don’t forget the smoke.
🙂
South African batting 4/68.
Mavis Smith says:
Friday, November 9, 2018 at 8:11 pm
nath:
An audit has been undertaken, with the result that there are no discrepancies.
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Thanks Mavis. Well there you go, a lesson for us all on jumping to conclusions.
Keep sucking up and *you* might get into the TAB marquee!
Why so much shade being thrown at nath? If he wants to blow smoke up Malcolm’s arse he should be left in peace
Boerwar @ #486 Friday, November 9th, 2018 – 8:11 pm
What’s this? Boerwar quoting the Nobel prize winning writer Bob Dylan?
Wonders will never cease! 🙂
poroti
You mentioned the Goons earlier. One of my favourite lines was “Look! The head of a skull. Quick, take its fingerprints!”
And from personal experience, I can confirm that Bill Shorten is quite the humble and unaffected politician. No tickets on himself, no bag carriers, no FIGJAM.
Which is counter to what the Murdoch press, and their running dogs have tried to imply.
sprocket_ says:
Friday, November 9, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Why so much shade being thrown at nath? If he wants to blow smoke up Malcolm’s arse he should be left in peace
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Yes I’m a real Turnbull backer:
nath says:
Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 9:00 pm
This Q&A is like a micro reenactment of his tenure as PM. Much anticipation followed by gentlemanly waffling and nothing very exciting.
Bob Dylan singing a Hazy Shade of Winter for Nath. I think he is signing the Russian version.
The utube visuals are good, the backing is good, but the lyrics not so good.
Paul Simon
A Hazy Shade Of Winter”
Time, time, time See what’s become of me
While I looked around for my possibilities
I was so hard to please
But look around Leaves are brown
And the sky is a hazy shade of winter
Hear the Salvation Army band
Down by the riverside’s
Bound to be a better ride
Than what you’ve got planned
Carry your cup in your hand
And look around you
Leaves are brown, now
And the sky is a hazy shade of winter
Hang on to your hopes, my friend
That’s an easy thing to say
But if your hopes should pass away
Simply pretend That you can build them again
Look around
The grass is high
The fields are ripe
It’s the springtime of my life
Seasons change with the scenery
Weaving time in a tapestry
Won’t you stop and remember me
At any convenient time?
Funny how my memory skips
Looking over manuscripts
Of unpublished rhyme
Drinking my vodka and lime
I look around Leaves are brown
And the sky is a hazy shade of winter
Look around Leaves are brown
There’s a patch of snow on the ground
Look around Leaves are brown
There’s a patch of snow on the ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqRETRG1wNA
Davidwh:
Yee of little faith, though I think you’re onto something there.
‘sprocket_ says:
Friday, November 9, 2018 at 8:19 pm
And from personal experience, I can confirm that Bill Shorten is quite the humble and unaffected politician. No tickets on himself, no bag carriers, no FIGJAM.
Which is counter to what the Murdoch press, and their running dogs have tried to imply.’
I know one or two people who have spent a lot of time with Shorten. Amen to your comments.
I think some are angry that with 5 minutes of research I busted a long cherished myth about the Turnbull Foundation. Sorry, I just like to know shit.