Not the Wentworth by-election thread

Some preselection news, and a thread for discussion of political matters not directly related to the Wentworth by-election count.

For discussion focused on the count for the Wentworth by-election, which turns out not to have been as over as you thought it was last night, the live results thread is still in action. For general political discussion, I offer the following post, with my usual semi-regular updates of preselection news.

• Phillip Coorey of the Australian Financial Review reports a New South Wales Liberal Senate preselection next month is a three-way contest between Jim Molan, Andrew Bragg and Hollie Hughes. Molan found a place in the Senate last December by the grace of Section 44, after securing only the unwinnable seventh position on the Coalition ticket at the 2016 double dissolution, to the chagrin of conservatives including Tony Abbott. Then followed the disqualification of Nationals Senator Fiona Nash, followed by the determination that the sixth candidate on the ticket, the aforesaid Hollie Hughes, was likewise ineligible due to a position she had taken on the Administrative Affairs Tribunal. Now it appears Molan is primed to take top spot, and since the third position is reserved for the Nationals, this leaves two and four to be fought out between Bragg, whose decision to withdraw himself from consideration for preselection in Wentworth is now looking pretty good, and Hughes, whose Section 44 complication is behind her.

• The Port Macquarie News reports three candidates have nominated to succeed retiring Luke Hartsuyker as Nationals candidate for Cowper: Patrick Conaghan, a former police officer and North Sydney councillor who now works locally as a solicitor; Chris Genders, a newsagent; and Jamie Harrison, former Port Macquarie-Hastings councillor and owner of an electrical business.

• The Burnie Advocate reports Gavin Pearce, who has been described as a “farmer and ex-defence force member”, has been preselected as Liberal candidate for Braddon ahead of “Devonport business identity Stacey Sheehan and property developer Kent Townsend”.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. KayJay
    Who, (owl impressions to follow)- who, would be the likely A Lister to play your part in the movie ❓
    ________________________
    There’s only one with the requisite skills to play me. the eminent cocksman Mr George Clooney.

  3. For GG on a special day.

    https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.234%2C$multiply_1%2C$ratio_1.776846%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/w_780/t_sharpen%2Cq_auto%2Cf_auto/f7de439bfd3744ba4c7abf0f9b56c76ff51567bf

    Something special here about his hero, Pell, and the Foster family, and the Victorian enquiry, that led to the Royal Commission that was , to quote GG, ‘ a populist witchhunt’.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/sex-victims-parents-tell-of-pells-sociopathic-response-20121123-29xmi.html

    “CARDINAL George Pell showed a ”sociopathic lack of empathy, typifying the attitude and response of the Catholic hierarchy” to parents whose young daughters were repeatedly raped by a priest, the Victorian inquiry into how the churches handled child sex abuse has been told by Anthony Foster.”

  5. swamprat,

    Yes, it’s relative. However, the mindset is the same, viz the natural environment is something to be economically exploited instead of valuing it for its intrinsic worth and preserving it for future generations.

  6. I would like to quote a few words that zoomster said about Mr Shorten a while back but WB seemed to have come down on your side over that one. 🙂

  15. Nauru:

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/oct/22/crossbenchers-urge-coalition-and-labor-to-make-deal-on-nauru-as-hung-parliament-looms

    Cathy McGowan and Rebekha Sharkie are urging the major parties to reach a deal on getting children off Nauru as the crossbench flexes its king-making muscle anticipating the likely hung parliament after the declaration of the result in Wentworth.

    McGowan, the Victorian independent, told Guardian Australia on Monday: “The Labor party has got to move on this and the government has got to move. We need a bipartisan solution.”
    ::::
    On Monday the Greens MP Adam Bandt and fellow crossbenchers Andrew Wilkie and Sharkie introduced a bill that would require every child and their family to be brought from Nauru to Australia for medical assessment.

  16. nath @ #1251 Monday, October 22nd, 2018 – 6:41 pm

    KayJay
    Who, (owl impressions to follow)- who, would be the likely A Lister to play your part in the movie ❓
    ________________________
    There’s only one with the requisite skills to play me. the eminent cocksman Mr George Clooney.

    Fortunately a gaggle of soon to be unemployed, said to be, actors (ex Pine Gap) will soon be available as bit players. Many of these folk are said to be excellent ice skaters and dancers – the project could also be a traveling show on ice subsequent to the movie.

    I like your idea of the pamphlets.

    This is the bees knees and possibly the cat’s pyjamas of pamphlets – eminently suitable from now until Christmas.

    💤

  18. Yet, we on PB, are burdened with the pissant nath, who had the hide to say that FPMJG only went along to the Apology to the Survivors of Institutional Child Sexual Abuse, for the applause. I hope he rots in that special place in hell reserved for miscreant pissants of no particular worth to the world when they were alive.

    Only a Liberal stooge would have ever put that sentence on a public blog on a day like today. No wonder the Coalition are going backwards at the rate of knots. Disrespect for anyone other than their own malign tribe.

    Whereas, if you read the article by Jacqueline Maley, not a known booster of Julia Gillard, you will see that FPMJG was a reluctant participant today and wanted the spotlight to be upon the survivors and not her.

  20. C@tmomma @ #1268 Monday, October 22nd, 2018 – 6:54 pm

    Yet, we on PB, are burdened with the pissant nath, who had the hide to say that FPMJG only went along to the Apology to the Survivors of Institutional Child Sexual Abuse, for the applause. I hope he rots in that special place in hell reserved for miscreant pissants of no particular worth to the world when they were alive.

    Only a Liberal stooge would have ever put that sentence on a public blog on a day like today. No wonder the Coalition are going backwards at the rate of knots. Disrespect for anyone other than their own malign tribe.

    Whereas, if you read the article by Jacqueline Maley, not a known booster of Julia Gillard, you will see that FPMJG was a reluctant participant today and wanted the spotlight to be upon the survivors and not her.

    Whomever this nath is he only exists as long as you let him.

    It sounds like an Alan Jones wannabee but attacking from the extreme left.

    But, it doesn’t exist in my world.

  21. C@t

    Nath is winding you up – and, sadly, William is enabling him by defending its constant nasty provocations. Let it go. If we all do that, we can only hope it goes and finds its jollies elsewhere – strangling cats for instance…

  22. I have the yellow version. They’re pretty quick and maneuverable, but no good in the surf. They like to turn sideways and then roll.

  24. Actually I am pretty cynical about all politicians. Seems a healthy thing in my book. We all know politicians hate applause or praise of any kind. Maybe I deserve Hell for that. I should ask Ronzy.

  25. poroti (Block)
    Monday, October 22nd, 2018 – 6:56 pm
    Comment #1271

    I only have a moment as As Time Goes By starts in a few moments.

    For a short while, looking at your picture – I thought you were talking about ladies with nice bottoms – but propriety prevailed.

    Good spotting.

    Damm. GG has beat me to it.

    Another KayJay failure.😵

  28. Yeah, with her connections, she might be able to have you not only absolved, but canonized as the Patron Saint of Big Arses.

  29. lizzie
    I did note your correction of my mis-attribution earlier today as well as the correct first line. Ta.

  32. wow sprocket. You’ve gone from flirting to…. well something considerably more intense. I’ll have to decline to give you any info on the old backside. Otherwise you might use that information in your less savoury fantasies.

  38. C@t
    I’m rather fond of the hypothesis that Murdoch was at least a player in getting rid of Turnbull and doesn’t mind 3 years of Labor as he can still make $ and then get rid of Labor at his whim.

  39. I’m guessing Bolt’s interview with Morrison last week or the week before didn’t go well. Another diatribe from him about Morrison after Wentworth. He is esp put out that Morrison etc are blaming the knifing of Turnbull for the loss.

    “Or was the problem that Turnbull was replaced not by an “extremist of the hard Right” but by Scott Morrison, an intellectually incurious former marketing man who shows little idea what his party really stands for?”

    “Morrison in these last weeks showed all the stability and sense of direction of a Catherine wheel, and his pandering to every side left him respected by none. This is not a problem of Morrison’s alone. The whole Liberal Party is now like that.”

  40. Harry “Snapper” Organs @ #1288 Monday, October 22nd, 2018 – 7:23 pm

    C@t
    I’m rather fond of the hypothesis that Murdoch was at least a player in getting rid of Turnbull and doesn’t mind 3 years of Labor as he can still make $ and then get rid of Labor at his whim.

    The old man, and getting older, will meet his match in Bill Shorten. 🙂

  41. “Or was the problem that Turnbull was replaced not by an “extremist of the hard Right” but by Scott Morrison, an intellectually incurious former marketing man who shows little idea what his party really stands for?”

    “Morrison in these last weeks showed all the stability and sense of direction of a Catherine wheel, and his pandering to every side left him respected by none. This is not a problem of Morrison’s alone. The whole Liberal Party is now like that.”

    I find myself in the very uncomfortable position of agreeing totally with Andrew Bolt.

    A shower might be in order.

  42. I second that, C@tmomma: as far as “nath” is concerned, ignore it. Then it will go away. It’s only here to cause trouble. Classic trolling.

  44. C@tmomma
    The old man, and getting older, will meet his match in Bill Shorten.
    ___________________________________
    At their first meeting Shorten will drop to his knees, kiss the ring. He will offer whatever Murdoch wants, including Chloe’s phone number, and then be dismissed like a starving waiter.

  46. Jeez! Andrew Bolt has not been assuaged by Scott Morrison.

    You’ve got to wonder though. Andrew Bolt calls himself a True Conservative. In the olden days it used to mean a belief in stability and respect for the nation’s institutions. Nowadays, that’s the last thing that Neo Conservatives and Reactionary Conservatives believe in. They just want to upend the status quo and revert to Mercantilist and Feudal Times again. They don’t seem to mind a bit of ultraviolence either. I’m thinking about the Duttonites here, as they seem to be about to, give a Visa to visit Australia to the Proud Boys founder droog, Gavin Macinnes.

    It will be interesting to see whether Andrew Bolt seeks to interview him, or whether he is smart enough to stay well away from this man and his desire to make manifest his implied motto of, ‘White Might is Right’.

    Then we will see if Andrew Bolt is, as he plaints, a ‘True Conservative’, who just wants to support the Picket Fence paradigm of his hero, Howard, or these power-crazed Disruptors on the Lunar Right.

  48. nath @ #1294 Monday, October 22nd, 2018 – 7:31 pm

    C@tmomma
    The old man, and getting older, will meet his match in Bill Shorten.
    ___________________________________
    At their first meeting Shorten will drop to his knees, kiss the ring. He will offer whatever Murdoch wants, including Chloe’s phone number, and then be dismissed like a starving waiter.

    You truly are an execrable individual! beyond humanity and redemption. And I sincerely hope that Mr Bowe takes a close look at this latest abomination which has been emitted from your computer in the sewer you dwell in!

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